My girlfriend watches The Two Towers (Extended Edition) for the FIRST time || Part 1 

Still say ye are making a mistake with the extended editions they are 100% different to a casual viewer not knowing what they are watching. The extended editions are pure existing-fan gold But won't have same impact if not a negative impact to casual viewer, which is heart breaking

Thanks for making my day, when you picked my comment for this video!

Killed me with your reactions to Smeagol saying "Give it to us raw and wriggling". Maybe Peter Jackson should have revised that line lol.

1. During the tree was reveal pretty much if she ever plays pathfinder/dnd Druid maybe her go to. I mean cmon Holden you see it right? (Cares for dogs, interested in nature beings, goodberry eating, calling by your full name to evoke her control on yeah.) 2. If she is getting more into fantasy base films Then for sure the next one she should watch if havnt yet is the chronicles of Narnia mainly the “first” film.

Smeagol is something else...

MEEEEEE AF

Always thought RU-vid reactors liked more comments, yet his comment significantly reduced the number of comments the video would get.

@@jowbloe3673 More comments are good for engagement and the algorithm, but sometimes you have to sacrifice that for a slice of sarcasm

Actually, fun fact: He broke TWO toes.

@@sameehkins5957 "Well thats not very fun." --Viggo Mortensen probably

This. He even mentions it during the conversation about his battle.

Thank you!!

So I still don’t get it... I love the movies & haven’t read books & I know it’ll make sense there. But I still got to understand that. How does Gandalf fall from the bridge & ended up on that mountain. I never thought it as an issue, i’m just curious to know.

@@MAC_ABC: That's exactly what I explained above; he falls with the Balrog into the depths of the caves, then the Balrog climbs up the Endless Stair which leads to the top of the peak above, and Gandalf follows it.

@@MAC_ABC it's a fantasy world, anything is possible

Yea timeline is shown to be alot faster in the films, like gandalf was gone for 17 years after bilbo's party. Long distances... But also hobbits average lifespan is also 100 or so years, so longer than humans

bolbo and gandolf :D i'm sorry, i just found this too funny not to comment :D

Had no clue about the age thing, what in the fuck

Your numbers are a bit off. Frodo and Bilbo have the same birthday. Frodo turned 33 - the "coming of age" for hobbits - when Bilbo turned 111. Sam was far older than 3 at the time. Frodo is maybe about five years older than Sam. 17 years pass between Bilbo's leaving and Frodo's leaving. Frodo is 50 at that time. And Merry is younger than Sam, and Pippin is younger than Merry.

Frodo is also of higher social standing than Sam. It's like upper class citizens today whose gardeners call them 'Sir/Ma'am'.

Unfortunately some of those craters you couldn't get out of, if you fell into one when it was muddy.

Proud to be triggered by that one.

We got to really live with it, probably better in the long run.

Which is nothing, compared to Theater Star Wars.

I mean this is slightly different we knew what was going to happen since this was a good adaptation not wheel of time over here where who knows what is going to happen next.

@@Tolandruth i do know nothing about wheel of time universe. Is the series worth a watch?

@@TusharSharma-gc4vs it’s ok fantasy it’s more just changing way to many things so if you never read it nothing will seem off to you. Not enough big budget fantasy shows so I am going to keep watching it but just seems off because of changes. It would be like if they added some girl hobbits and said they can be Frodo.

Mine too. I am a Lord of The Rings nerd and it’s very fun to see someone watch Lord of The Rings.

Apparently Two Towers being a favourite is a controversial opinion but for me it’s got the best battle, it’s the best we see with the non hobbit quad, it’s also the best we see of the hobbit trio (Frodo, Sam, Gollum). The only part I’m not the biggest fan of is the tree beard stuff but even that has a satisfying ending IMO.

@@iamthebatman6557 Two Towers definitely has the best battle (in movie history imo). Many love the final battle in RotK, but that lacked the emotional connection that Helm's Deep provided. Fellowship of the Ring is still my favorite by far.

Gimli's actor also played Sallah in Raiders of the Lost Ark and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

@@jasonvoorheescampblood “Gimli’s actor” lol. These people have names and have done more than one role.

100% agree. I cant even watch this tbh

I don't how they can have honest emotions when they're so busy joking their way through it.

As much as I do like a lot of MCU movies, this is true. LOTR is the kind of beautiful story people will still remember for years. The same can’t be said for the MCU.

Not a matter of taste - a matter of opinion. My opinion is LotR is better than the MCU, but not by much. With art, unlike science, all opinions are valid. You can can have your opinion, but the only opinion that is valid is mine - to me.

@@richardmaurer9174 Sure, u can have an opinion that some comic book is better written than War and Peace novel, but that doesnt make it true. MCU is light years behind Lord Of Rings movies in literally every aspect.

@Mr Glass If only would people actually read books, that would be something

@@worlddd7777 Apparently you don't understand how opinions work. Art is subjective and your "facts", which are really only opinions, are only true for you. Yes I can have the opinion that a some comic is better than some novel , and while my opinion is a "fact" for me, I know enough to realize I can't just say it's a "fact" for everybody and force everyone to go along with my OPINION. See how that works now?

Exactly! I always find myself enjoying The Fellowship of the Ring more so than the others. For some reason it is my favorite.

like all good investments it's pays off in the long run

I share your opinion as well my friends 👏🏽

@@rdubs9320 I think it's one that you appreciate so much more once you've finished the trilogy.. Jen's critique is pretty valid if Followship was a standalone film, it's slow and doesn't have a super satisfying ending. But as part of the trilogy, it's my favorite as well.

At least he didn't break his toe.

@@PhilBagels LMAO

It wasn’t a Mocap suit. He shot scenes on set for a physical reference and for the benefit of the other actors. He did the mocap later in studio.

Oh yeah, well my dad works at blizzard… oh wait that’s a bad joke now. Haha Anyways, that’s awesome man. Glad to hear hollyweird never got to him. If you haven’t you should check at Wilfred with him. Funny

@@discolullaby5777 one of my favorite shows!

It’s always like that for first viewers cause it’s so much world building but then you get into the next two movies and it’s so much faster paced

@@legolas_legend2129 I feel like it's a "this is your brain on capeshit" symptom TBH.

This is not what i remember about the Lord of the Rings books. What i remember is there are 6 books

@@Myth777 at first it was made as one book iirc but they decided to release it in different parts to make it "easier" or something, i could be wrong, just what i've read

@@Myth777 - I'd say one volume (to rule them all) in six parts published in three books.

@@Myth777 it was 1 book divided to 6 volumes. But publisher said it's too long. So they divided the books into 3 with 2 volumes each.

@@josephdanieljirehdimacali4418 i guess thats the best description that matches my memory. I reacted to OP ommiting the existence of 6 books

This is the only time I’ve ever given a like to a ‘broken toe’ comment🤣

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 I appreciate it. Thanks!

A ranger, by definition, is a hunter/tracker (aka scout). Rangers of the North just being the best of them.

Arda is the planet, not Middle Earth, and when the Numenoreans colonized the continent there were already plenty of humans there.

It's not an "innate" ability. They have to learn it. But it's something they've been doing for ages, so they really know how to do it well, and pass it on to the next generation.

Agreed. Irksome. 😒

Probably too much joking around instead of paying attention.

agreed i could argue these films are massively better than the MCU but it’s all she ever thinks about and compares EVERYTHING to it probably because it’s a lot more dumbed down ..not to call her stupid or anything 😅

I do think I understand them. It's a lack of something in their mind, not sure what, but it seems like a pattern is there: whenever someone doesn't really like Fellowship of the ring, they imply they think the story is too deep and complex to understand.

It's a lack of depth and bad preperation. Anyone who says LOTR reminds them of Harry Potter obviously had a deprived childhood

This is assumed but never specifically stated by Tolkien

@@goldnscout In terms of the movie, it's made pretty clear it's a 'union between the two towers of Orthanc and Barad-dur' however, you're right there's some ambiguity in the books... And in his letters Tolkien apparently settles on Orthanc and Minas Morgul. But they could just as easily be Cirith Ungol or Minas Tirith too. He was never happy with it as a title.

Exactly. I hate that with a passion.

Exactly what I’m thinking

I thought the Patreons chose Potter first, or am i missing something ?

@@PezQ84 Well, the patreons were wrong then.

@Scrotumus Ballbagius If there really are people like that i want to leave this planet.

@@proudsaiyanprince2651 true

@@proudsaiyanprince2651 Took inspiration from is way different from directly copied from, which has happened to LotR a lot, everything from D&D to Harry Potter

@@richardmaurer9174 exactly. Even if Tolkien lifted names directly from the sagas and other scriptures let's not forget that this man crafted multiple languages for his stories.

@@raydafuq3570 Well, if you wanna get SUPER technical, he crafted multiple stories for his languages. The world of Middle Earth only exists because he wanted/needed somewhere to put his languages. lol

@@proudsaiyanprince2651 You can’t really make a “knock off” of literature that old.

To be fair it’s sorta hard to get into a movie such as this when there’s constant side bar conversations about dogs, the titanic, etc etc.

It's not about what you watch first. Holden told her in Fellowship part 1 that LotR came before all of that so everything you think LotR has ripped off was in fact ripped off from LotR if you want to say it like that. It's peoples ignorance that makes them say "this reminds me of that one thing in GoT or HP or this was ripped off from that" even if someone told them beforehand that LotR came first. People just say that because they don't understand that fantasy, sci-fi etc are genres that contain franchises with similar characteristics. So they relate it to the things they do know to try and help themselves understand it better which doesn't work usually and they aren't aware how annoying this can be for people watching who know this stuff. Every idiot can see that Harry Potter Elves and Lord of the Rings Elves are not the same thing. Same with Snow White Dwarves and Dwarves in Fantasy like LotR, Warcraft, the Elder Scrolls or Dragon Age. Also things like Star Wars and Star Trek have similar names on top of that. Problem is people just aren't aware of those things like we are and instead of having a complete open mind and going into it without prejudices they instantly compare it to "similar" things without knowing how similar (or rather un-similar) they actually are. The best way to do this is to wipe your mind clean before watching and let the movie / series do the explaining and only if you understood it you can say huh this is a bit like this and that but different and help yourself understand it better through that but not the first thing you do is comparing and stay in that mindset. I guess all of us compare movies and series with each other but it's just dumb to say oh Gandalf is a Wizard? So he is just like Dumbledore! Because being a Wizard can have a hundred different meanings depending on context and franchise. A video game? D&D? HP Wizardry? LotR Wizardry? Whats the difference between Wizards, Mages, Sorcerers and Warlocks etc. It's kinda sad to see people have so little knowledge about stuff like that that they think Harry Potter for example is the one film where all Wizards come from because it's a film about Wizards. Every franchise is it's own microcosmos and even if they have similarities to other franchises it's not the same at all and most of the times not even compareable. Weirdly I never see someone watch Harry Potter and say oh this is just like this one Micky Mouse Cartoon where he becomes a Wizard with brooms and shit.

Can't even be bothered to learn the names 🙄 😕

It's a grower.

Because John's aren't memorable. Johnny's however...

@@exquisitelemonade3039 Exactly my point. Names that stand out are much easier to remember. Remembering all their names is really not that hard.

@@magnuswiesener9588 people don't want to think anymore nowadays. That's why we are in the mess that we are.

I just dont understand people who watch Two Towers and be underwhelmed

I think he was more so referencing the difficulties in rotoscoping out Andy for Gollum whilst having the water splashing in the scene from the original footage. It wouldn't surprise me though if the water was still touched up after inserting Gollum into the scene.

Very likely. Still crazy that Andy did that in the freezing water. It wasn't a small amount of ice and snow they removed prior to shooting.

Most of it wasn't cgi. Corridor Digital actually broke down the scene and found that a couple extra splashes were added it because it was hard to completely match up the motion capture due to the limited technology of the time

Also the river ended with a cliff and they had guys to stop serkis from potentially going over the edge. Jackson was afraid that the cold would shut Serkis’ brain down and he would just go over the cliff

Harry Potter owes a lot to many stories that came before it.

@@ginagetscreative Have you heard of a comic called Books of Magic by Neil Gaiman? It's about a boy wizard who wears glasses and has pet owl. Came out well before HP. This is the one that really gets me.

Well he didn’t give himself the name. And it’s a translation anyway of Fangorn.

wasnt it the fans on patreon who wanted the extended edition?

@@elvehn8864 Yes, but from what I've found it's the fans of LOTR that want other people to watch the movies and fans like the extended editions. This leads fans to push for the extended editions without considering that they aren't the best suited for first time watchers

@@tylervanness9584 wasnt saying that the extended were better on first watch, just that it wasnt holden who wanted the extended

Yeah as far as I'm concerned it's kinda stupid to show a newcomer the extended edition of a film because that is not what 99% of people will have experienced, they tend to generally contain a small amount of good stuff but mostly alot of boring extra scenes for the hardcore fans to enjoy AFTER seeing the theatrical release

@@elvehn8864 The only option that was in the poll was the extended edition, I did not see theatrical anywhere, or else I would have chosen that myself.

Soooo annoying when people compare anything fantasy based to LOTR. Every time I introduce someone to LOTR I START by making it abundantly clear that LOTR was written in 1948. It is the baseline for all fantasy to come after. You will see elements and characters that remind you of other characters in other fantasy content. That is because they have taken elements and expanded them from LOTR. So pleaaasseeeee….plllllleeeeeaaassseeeee spare me the comparing stuff to LOTR like it is copying other stuff. It is EXACTLY the opposite. And if you can’t get that basic fact in your head right now, we are not watching these movies together. Is that clear? If I hear even ONE Harry Potter or GOT reference, I am turning it off and I’m done!!

​@@bryce253 to be fair, he's been slowly introducing her to all these different series over the past few years. it's understandable that she'll relate it to harry potter since she saw that first. there's also no real point in correcting her during the movie.

Damn, that sounds good. Gotta try it next time. I usually have popcorn but it makes me feel so stuffed afterwards.

Wash the blueberries first - those in the reaction were not washed! 😒

@@kalh4907 Do you know that? What makes you think she didn't dump them out, wash them, wash the container, replace the paper in the bottom and then put the blueberries back into the container?

fantasy genres aren't for everyone. We'll see if she warms up to the Two Towers by the end of it.

Oh that comment was well crafted, by Holden.

He actually broke two toes!

There's actually more to it than that. Háma, the doorward and leader of the Royal Guard (The one who is killed by the ambushing warg rider) recognizes Gandalf from his many previous visits to Meduseld, and is fully aware that the staff is not just his walking stick. He goes along with Gandalf's rude, however, because it's a perfectly good excuse to let him in with his staff without going against the king's orders. Why? Because he, like everyone else at the court, hopes Gandalf will help rid them of Grima.