My History On How I Got My 95.5hr World Record For Solo Steel Path Survival and How DE Responded 

Please share this out and if you are new to the whole situation here a playlist going over the past five years. ru-vid.com/group/PLb5bhq9B7AmUDWZYY041LINza9xelPsIB

Man, classical DE. "These missions are endless, meaning you can theoretically run one forever" "Only theoretically? Why?" "Because if you try to do a longer run than [DELETED] you will get banned without us looking into it."

Getting blocked by the community lead by asking for help is peak

they better not remove the pause solo thing, its always been in the game and i just like it

DE needs to release a public statement about this and reimburse you. It’s mind boggling that DE would punish their players just for playing the game lol

so, if you get too good at buildcrafting and making the perfect loadout for the endless mission, you are given the highest honor they can bestow... a letter telling you to fuck off

Your case is clear proof that nothing has changed over at DE, the root problems are still there.

Same song and dance as per usual with their support. Been there and was lucky to get out of a permaban before. Will signal boost when I can. I'm Sorry you've had to go through with this. I have a bit of information regarding internal flags the game uses in runs when determining post-endurance restrictions. Is there a way to contact you?

And then there are this guys on bilibili that "sleep" index, aya and steel essence while multiboxing with a 100 macros and all they get is a warning from DE. This is such a joke.

I really hope this video gets somewhere with this problem. This is outrageous and really fucking unfair.

I understand that DE is a smaller company than most AAA gaming giants, but the way their automated systems (and frankly, automated / robot customer support responses) hurt people pushing their lategame to its limits is shameful. They can do better than this. Other games would be celebrating this kind of world record shenanigans, instead of handing out automated bans because "suspiciously long runs" or "too much loot detected"

Dude gets banned for playing the game, not the first and def. not the last. This is beyond stupid and even after all those years leaves me speechless - WHAT THE FUCK

I traded a bunch of prime parts for plat years ago. But the plat I got was duped or bought with a bad credit card. So now my 1k hour account is inaccessible until I pay a $240 ransom for all the plat I used. DE of course didn't care about the fact that I had nothing to do with how the plat was acquired, just that I was the one who spent it. DE doesn't really care about their players.

I’m only 5 mins in but i was reminded of a few days ago running Hydron, I went to wave 20 and missed out on 2 rewards “due to inactivity” while I was standing on the point with Gara casting 4, 1, 4, 1 over and over. My partner had like 15 kills and I had the rest but the game marked me as inactive because I wasn’t running around collecting stuff. There’s an issue with what they consider to be inactivity. Hell, there are even frames that revolve around staying in one place, so why would they consider that inactivity? The game seems to be adding more and more frames with different playstyles and it’s to the point we have so many that DE seems to have forgotten about some.

I think I got muted from the devstream on Friday for asking, How can we attempt world records without jeopardizing my account?

Tech support being bad is common, the lead of the game not even looking into a problem from a content creator is the real problem here imo

Hearing things about DE support is almost always negative

man this endurance runner getting banned has been a thing in the past too

I bloody fell asleep for like 8h during a Nidus Endurance run before the Eximus Overshield changes on a Nidus build, and had no issues. That run MUST have looked sus as fuck by misstake yet I am fine and yet you, as a KNOWN endurance pusher, get in trouble??? This is beyond the Nezha Kinetic Siphon Trap chat ban nonsense.

I wish I had the sheer focus and dedication of you. To sit trough 19 hours of survival just for the fun of it? I could never. You sir are in a league of your own

Warframes support is an absolute joke. A friend of mine sold a bunch of very rare relics to a random guy he found on WF Market and then spended a lot of the plat he got from that afterwatds. A day later his account got banned and had around-1000plat on it so he contacted the support. Turns out the plat he got from the guy was "corrupted" so they told him he has to pay 70€ to unlock his account again even tho it wasn' t his vault and he was the one who got scammed by someone he had never seen before. They just used WF market as an excuse and told him its not an official website so they are not responsible for that, which was like the worst argument ever. The guy found him on WF Market which is true, but the trade was still ingame and they are indeed responsible for ingame trades. Also they used the ingame chat during that trade so they could have tracked which items he sold to that guy but they didn't return a single relic to him either. The people working at WF support are the worst and don't deserve any money for the job they doing. A support that doesen't support the community. Only the money DE makes.

Thank you, TheBakerTV for posting this video. This was very informative regarding the mistreatment of players. In the past, I've used the solo game mode to allow myself to be able to pause a multi-hour mission if needed and I had been thinking about doing a heavily extended survival by playing for a handful of hours a day and eventually extracting when I got bored. I had no idea that it might have resulted in a suspension or ban. To make a comparison- The developers of Tetris likely never realized that anyone could clear level 29 (If you know, you know.) However, players in the Tetris community have now reached levels in the hundreds. That said, I find it strange that Warframe's developers would question a player's ability to survive at level cap. If someone is capable of reaching level cap, then they can likely survive for as long as they have the patience and/or focus. If the developers' problem is the fact that a player would need to pause and return later, then I wonder when it became an issue for a player to pause a video game. If you made it through that, thank you for reading.

Finally fixing this issue would be a huge win for the new-ish hierarchy over at DE, I wish they had better ways of detecting actually problematic runs. It'd be kind of interesting if these runs that get flagged become open to be reviewed by the community so attention gets called to it instead of insta-punishment, it could keep track of actual offenders, I'd probably start thinking along those lines if I was like an indie dev and didn't have the resources to take it on myself. Idk how feasible this is at all, but it sure would be awesome if we could catch new exploits for them, upon which they'd implement it into their exploit detection. (That 10h kuva run is nostalgic btw.)

wow i can't believe rebb blocked you, that's genuinely fucked up

Damn this is really dumb. I would understand if this was Runescape. You arent botting warframe. There is no script you are running. You are not cheating. You are very skilled. This is honestly disgusting. This is a very good warning for players who do these, if anything. Sad they react this way. You arent exactly devaluing anything.

It's amazing how simple it would be to add a few lines of code to their pause menu to report to their system that the game is in solo and being paused.

we cant even ask about it otherwise we get banned, im really confused as to why they cant just let you play

It's very possible that the devs didn't intend for the Solo Pause system to be used like that (Pause to get sleep). Rather, use it if you want to take a sip, or a delivery, or something. It's still on DE to implement a better timer system, though. You haven't breached anything, as far as I can tell, so, you have my support. What I am saying is that, you shouldn't risk yourself treading on landmines. Just play in one session and extract, I know, you live for endurance, but times and times against DE has proven that they are simply blind and deaf to problems like this one. Glad my mild autism only took me to level 250 Corpus Defense and not further lol.

Like you said in the past, keys were a thing and they encouraged you to do longer runs because of rotations and so on. I only did 1 levelcap Apolo SP Run and I thoroughly enjoyed it

The current state of AAA gaming: Developer: "This dude got a world record but doesnt have 1m+ influence value on social media??? Disgusting, ban him."

Reb blocking you is crazy

This video is Warframe therapy and I love it. Your voice is lovely to listen to and your thoughts a validating and comfy.

how they handled this was atrocius, im suprised how calm you kinda are about all this, id go crazy if this happened to me. i hope you get unbanned because you genuinely seem like a nice person and creator and id love to watch more of you

This was an incredible well crafted video! And i really hope DE takes a look into this stuff, it really sucks they punish you for playing their game with the mechanics they made.

I hope DE changes run checking from a bot response to a real person even if it gotta be many ppl in the community itself

wtf? this is ridiculous. reading these automated shit responses they sent you over and over makes me so mad. more people need to be aware of this

RU-vid just pushed this video on me. I don't know, this is the first thing I see from you but seeing the title I couldn't help but think 'ohh, not another one.' I'm lr3 and never tried a cap run. I got builds and I want to, at some point, but de working against it just lowers the motivation for it. Thank you for speaking up about your experience

We gotta blow this video up man.

Saw this on twitter. Big oof. I've always wanted to dip my toes into endurance runs but I've seen people banned for as little 8 hour missions.

I remember hearing about your first suspension way back in the day. This is such a weird coincidence because I just got back into the game after taking a 3 year break

I don’t play warframe but I’m liking the video and watching the whole thing for the algorithm 😊 hope the support team can respect your grind and realize you can pause the game

Commenting for engagement, wish you the best.

I am a Warframe veteran that started in 2013-2014 and played for years. I finally quit some time ago for 2 years cause I got burned out and was very sick of DE's bullshit. I got back into the game and DE's bullshit has not changed.

After hearing yours and others horror stories, I quit endurance runs altogether. I also stopped buying plat or prime access. The community is superb but the company itself may as well be the CCP.

"Perserverance and loyalty are among your greatest assets, Tenno"

I hope this video gets a lot of attention. I stopped playing Warframe a long while ago for my own reasons (mostly boredom/some of my own frustrations) but this is just ridiculous

I hope I can witness a change. I love the game but the support is like the secret bad side of the game, you discover it only when you get hit by it. I'll do what I can to share your case around. Hope the best.

guilty until proven innocent...pretty much what DE has been doing for years ....ivara 10+h runs ...flagged...old frost cryotic farms...flagged now 15+h survivals while aimgliding with wisps immortality and torid while pretty much watching supernatural on the side...flagged :) its funny tho how many people are getting flagged for doing just end game stuff especially now when anyone can get into 10+h runs after week or two ingame time cause incarnon weapons, all the cool mods and stuff ...if DE would care they would have changed stuff but they dont. Only thing they give a damn is their Ingame market and in their eyes endurance runners are cause of market loosing value that causes them not getting as much platinum purchases as they used to...Little by Little they turn to the moneyhungry corp that every f2p game does

I've always been hesitant to try for endurance runs for this reason. I usually keep them down to an hour or two max because I don't want to deal with support. Hopefully they'll get it right some day and we'll be able to play endurance runs without any worry. Endless missions can actually become endless.

Very disapointing to see how DE is handling the situation. It has always seemed like they encourage players to limit test but seeing this idk why they added rivens, archon shards and all these buffs for us to not go for longer runs

Their system is weird, I’ve done level cap Survival runs and got no ban but God forbid I use a Khora + Booster + Kavat on SP and got hit with the “abnormal results”

Commenting to support (you forgot to put video of how you got your twitch banned in pinned comment)

Love you're mindset bro ❤

DE support is among the worst I ever witnessed. I had a situation where I spent the Grendel key for me and my team. My friends finished the mission, while I was bleeding out (it said mission success on my screen and I received resources and xp). They all got the Grendel part, but I didn't, and yet my key was spent (when you fail the mission you don't loose key, when you win you loose key but you get the part). So I wrote to support. It was a horrible back and forth that lacked any logic. To shorten and paraphrase our exchange: - The key was removed from your account, because mission was success. - Ok, so why didn't I got the part? - you didn't got the part, because you failed the mission - But you said it was a success, so if I failed why did my key got removed? - Because you won the mission - Than where is my Grendel part? - As I stated before, you lost the mission, therefore you can't receive the Grendel part. If you will keep spamming our mail, we will have to block you from our support. It was insane, I don't believe there is even a single human working at DE support.

Seeing this recommended this morning gave me bad memories of a game I was previously a QA Tester for. They had a special guest and made a parkour course in-game with a leaderboard for run times. After about half a year they had a lot of cheaters who got absolutely ridiculous times so they had a dev run the course and assumed anything better than the dev's time was cheating. I was included in that ban wave as well as several other players I knew for a fact were legitimate so I contacted support and let them know I was concerned innocent players were affected by their decision. They initially accused me of cheating until I mentioned I was a former member of their team and they escalated the issue. They unbanned me but as far as I know others are still banned. I fully abandoned the game and the community shortly after.

It's a mystery that they don't have a script that checks if a run was done solo and had been paused when it flags in their system. I actually am in awe that they've let this problem go on for so long.

If you want another Mag weapon (I haven't properly tested this yet), we all know the Latron is a popular go-to cause she can charge it easily and the bouncing can have some utility like hitting a bubble that's behind another bubble, but a while ago I realized the Double-Tap augment should work especially well on her. Could be that I completely missed endurance runners already doing this or having tested it, but sounds like a natural fit. For normal missions though, I prefer to focus on it's performance outside bubbles for fluidity, cause in bubbles... Yeah you really don't need to min/max that at all. Also, iirc Exergis got an especially big bump from galv savy scaling? (Same as plasmor?) It can apply quite some statuses by itself already.

what's hilarious about those support tickets saying wayfinder is that the wayfinder support tickets say warframe, but the warframe support tickets say wayfinder

You can catch a ban for playing to long? Thats odd... Also idk why DE is being so difficult and won't just lift the ban. Honestly if anything they can use these long endurance runs to help make their auto ban more accurate.

What an outlook. I just started a game a week ago where you get randomly banned for just playing the game. Where devs put in a faulty automatic penalty systems, that triggers for normal, if long, gameplay. And a support team that is blocking and threatening those players when they appeal. That’s sad. Two and a half big red flags for me. Maybe it’s a go next type of game.

I remember when I became a GM founder a decade ago, the future seemed so bright. The bloom is definitely off the rose and has been that way for a while now.

never forget the 2035 sqaud

Sorry you're going through this, I've only had and seen bad experiences from DE support

DE's moderation is hot garbage, they will permanently ban people over the most minor of things. They permanently banned my main account for saying "I like my effeminate Nezha thank you very much!" in region chat. The account on which my GF had bought the Xbox Anniversary Valkyr skin for me. That's now gone, that account is ruined all because some powermad mod thought I somehow broke the EULA.

My guess is their data collection for what goes inside a mission is shit(or tooo ls to analyze the date) and they just wont bother acrually investigating what does and doesnt count as cheating IE cheat engine use. At least threy dont put spyware anticheat in the game like other companies, mostly due to lack of community pvp interest.

algorithm comment cuz this needs more people to see it

Wayfinder support>>> Warframe support

0:36 How do they not know this. I started during Empryean update and I know that. It’s the only way I do solo endurance or any kind of long farming

Damn i was just about to attempt my first endurance but when i heard about this problem... might as well play another game atp

This needs to get more attention

Idk how yall do it i always get horrible luck with the life support drops i always have to bring khora or nekros 😂

Community needs to make this viral. There's a LOT of players getting poor support to none at all. I've been banned on a couple accounts for the most stupid reasons, when I submitted a ticket the "support" I recieved was "your account id banned" and I was like "no shit Sherlock", then the support answer was, I'm going to mark this ticket as solved... And left. DE support don't care about supporting, they just leave it as it is and go on. And DE clearly don't care.

4 years later and Rahetalius is proven correct yet again, DE is still the same with the same core issues in full display.

I've been playing Warframe for years, literally have several thousand hours like most other vets. I have the ability to run most of the endless game modes for theoretically as long as I want. The power creep lets us lock down enemies virtually for as long as we want, and we can deal the integer limit in damage consistently. I used to run 8h survivals with my buddies just for shits and giggles, like none of us would be paying attention to the game, just chatting and vibing with friends. we've all been banned or reprimanded for this at least once, to the point that we no longer play endless game modes. Which sucks because it was the most fun I ever had in this game. I really wish DE would actually pay attention to the community, and would listen.

Maybe DE should do what Vampire Survivors does and have a grim reaper come and murder you at whatever predetermined mission duration they choose.

I still don’t get why they’d ban someone for doing this

I have a ticket for help with an account merge/link issue thats been open for 2 weeks now with no response... Their customer support is an absolute joke.

yea i got chat banned for trying to ask

Honestly banning people for literally playing your game is not just shooting themselves in the foot... it's chopping both feet off You can literally get the same amount of loot for running back to back 2 hour runs equivalent to just playing for 2 days straight Yet regular players dont get banned so why should he?????? Both require putting time and effort in. The difference is ONLY in how the time is spent "But he's getting more loot from consecutive waves" ^You mean... playing the game... as it was made... as it was intended? There's very clearly ulterior motives for his bans Because EVERYTHING is recorded in that game and they can Clearly see he wasn't cheating in any way So, either they dont want people spending weeks of their lives on the game or... I have no idea what else, because it's Free Advertising for them as well. Nobody is losing in this scenario, but they wanted to just Create Problems 🤷‍♂️

DE acts childish when someone wants a world record in wf

This is silly. So we are getting PUNISHED for playing the game

DE can’t keep getting away with this disgusting behavior.

Ahh, below average DE support experience...

I love Warframe so much and always wanted to try endurance. I talk about it with friends occasionally but never get around to it. It saddens me they do this or ignore your requests for help and solutions. I hope this gets sorted eventually and you can enjoy the game properly without worry of suspensions/bans.

infested against Octavia is crazy holy props for it i know i don't could last longer than an hour maybe 2 actually great mindset and how DE is about doing long runs is just pain thay ruin the market anyways so the traid ban is still stupid and as speed star you can farm more faster so if its about the items than thay should ban any speedruner who goes solo thay can farm up to 3 times more prime parts than any level cap player i Guess its the old code witch detects if you get to much items at once and there i can say you run it live and thay can Check if you done Something wrong and its not even worth it for steel Essence cause of the nerf so why thay should bother if thay not happy with it than go for the nerf but don't ban players who use the equip for longer runs if thay can and thay can as example stop spawning enemys at 10 hours or so if thay Really wanna nerf it i whould hate the nerf but if thay wannt than go ahead but i recommend spawning harder enemys maybe new ones you only Encounter at level cap to give us a run for ur money but i guess a ban is enough, its just sad.

I got banned. Tried to write a ticket. They copy pasted me why they banned me not even caring what I was saying then banned me from everywhere. Even forums

DE is such a disgusting company god damn its the hide everything bad by having a title of "friendliest community" even if the community doesnt even interact with each other ,people dont use chat in random lobbies anyway

this is unfair as hell

As someone who hasn't really played much the past 4 years until getting back in very recently, this is really discouraging news. Why would you powercreep your game to the extent that people are bored at the massive lack of difficulty, then turn around and punish people for attempting extreme endurance runs. Glad to see the same ridiculous mental gymnastics are still in charge of account management and bans edit: Also there's no clear indication of how much is too much from their perspective. This is a DE problem and not a player problem. If players can hang out at level cap and chill for hours, that's your game not being hard enough, not necessarily players cheating to do so. If you are worried about people playing past level cap then just auto complete after a certain duration and give them a pat on the back instead of taking a bat to their knees jesus christ

Being a near lifelong warframe player(started right before movement 2.0) i have witnessed alot of odd illogical calls by DE. it is clear to me that the DE team are immature at best and their image in the public square is all they care about. I hate to see this happen time after time to a tenno such as yourself. Its the sole reason i feel like quitting sometimes. I think sometimes my only joy that comes from warframe anymore is helping new players and getting temp banned in chat for mentioning 1984 and brave new world in regards to censorship. Im with ya brother! Damn the man, save the empire! 😊

Putrid behavior by the devs really. "Uhh we can't lift the ban even though you did nothing wrong, cuz its temporary so uhh just wait out the ban" If that's actually true they are genuinely inept. But it just seems like they don't care.

1:36 The "Director of Community and LiveOps" Ladies and gentlemen. Funny that. Leader for the community, yet turns her back when someone from said community asks for help.

I absolutely hate that we the gamers have zero rights

This is why I’ve stopped playing lately. I trade a-lot and unknowingly received “fraudulent” platinum from a player. Months after the trade I was banned for a week plus and was left in flux as to whether I would even be able to get my account back (1000 + hours) I just lost all passion for the game after this, I don’t want to waste my time with a game that thinks nothing of banning a player that didn’t do anything wrong.

When you pause, the timer in mission time (with tab) still run out, even if it's a survival mission when you can clearly see the survival time shown is lower. It's probably because they use this timer that they detect you as afk for hours.

I think the same thing happened to me just yesterday. I had just begun doing long endurance runs, longest I went in one was 3½ hours and my most recent one was an hour with a random guy from recruiting. I had made a ticket about wrongfully being kicked from region by an xbox moderator, Then 4 days later I tried to login to the game and got met with the 2035

You see i wouldd try to ask questions but i already got banned from chat for counting how many enemies i had inside my hydroid...

That’s tough man, you aren’t the only one.

I have nothing against some creators in the Warframe sphere. But i find it deeply ironic how dude like Pupsker, who basically just hits record and does 40 minute videos in one take with no detailed information will never get banned, cause he just isn't interested in late-late endgame type stuff, and people who pefrorm the most over the top calculations and math endurance shenanigance are being punsihed. Both sides of the content creation have their place. But only people who push the game to its limit and coincidentally make the best most detailed guides and tutorials are getting punshed by the bullshit system. I'm still waiting to one day unknowingly trade for some black plat, succsfully spend it, get it substracted from my account and get held my account ransom for the money someone else cheated from DE.

My first and only trade suspention was around 2019 or so when I did 1h arbitration survival with my friend (and we failed the mission even, mind you, because we both died and I was overestimating how bulky Nidus is when I have not much experience playing him lmao), and probably the funniest part is that while I did got suspended, my friend did not? Like wtf man that makes no sense. I wish I was in EN community back then so I could support your protest as someone who actually experienced something like that (tbf not to an extend you did yet still this was puzzling to me), but all I can say is that man I respect your dedication for endurance stuff