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My last event with Skaven (for now?) and what I'm moving onto next... | Road to LGT Part 1 

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It's been a fun run, but it's time to move on! What am I planning on playing at LGT..?
Apologies to Richard, I couldn't find pics of his army!
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@gemmell761
@gemmell761 7 дней назад
My opponent deployed his peg knights in a lance and prayed. - That's an appropriate reaction
@MarkusEEE
@MarkusEEE 6 дней назад
This is really cool that you will be doing dark elves next. I'm currently doing some basic dark elves that is quite infantry heavy with a Dreadlord on dragon, which works at lgs fine since everyone is mostly new to the game. Also makes it easy to run an assassin (15 points for killing blow is pretty nice)
@NathanGrau-s3j
@NathanGrau-s3j 5 дней назад
hey just wanted to say i really love the tournament overviews - not a ton of content for learning how to play competitive old world and so getting overviews like this help me to understand how you think of army composition and how stuff works in battle - please do more!
@svartninjan
@svartninjan 5 дней назад
Excited to see what you come up with. Other than the standard dragon that is... Been playing around with beastmasters myself, as having multiple flying lords is quite strong while not beining dragons lol
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 5 дней назад
Starting off with 2 Dragons and as many guns as I can fit in! Room to experiment down the line
@wouterd42
@wouterd42 7 дней назад
Dark Elf player here. You may want some Harpies to help hunt warmachines and wizards. And they're dirt cheap (for elves) You might also want a unit of Cold One Knights, if only to project more threat onto the battlefield. Otherwise, your opponent might just bull rush your shades. It doesn't sound like you have other melee units, so you can put the Banner of Har Ganeth on them to make them extra-scary. For a sorceress on dragon, Illusion is also an option for the -1 to hit (with double dragon, you don't have the points to equip a strong magic weapon for spectral doppelganger).
@AP-hv9ll
@AP-hv9ll День назад
...and the harpies' paltry 55 points do help pay the core tax. Some games they have zero targets and I'm just trying to keep them hidden so they don't die or get terror checked off the board. Some games they go ham and do a hilarious amount of warmachine work for their points. They are a must take for me.
@AP-hv9ll
@AP-hv9ll День назад
I have played ~9 games with DE's before I brought a single dragon to my last game. I plopped my lvl 4 Battle on top of the dragon and kept my dreadlord in a unit of CoK's. I faced ogres (which granted, aren't very good.) I felt like this was the first easy-mode game of tOW I've played since release. Understand this wasn't a tournament list. I still brought a block of Witch Elves for core, and only fielded 1x13 shades & 2x5 Dark Riders. Witch Elves can do some work, but they will inevitably get wiped (which is no surprise to anyone here.) Double Dragon will just be stupid tough. It'd be perfect if it wasn't virtually impossible to fit an ogre blade/exec. axe on your dreadlord. I have yet to play in a tourney and I like my friends, so I won't be fielding double dragon anytime soon.
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder День назад
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to running it next weekend! I think I'll likely go back to 0-1 dragons soon, but sometimes you just want to hold the big gun, y'know?
@mrsnakesmrnot8499
@mrsnakesmrnot8499 7 дней назад
Name suggestion: Cloud Runners or Poison Cloud Runners
@KharashTestDummy
@KharashTestDummy 7 дней назад
Characters on chariots are underrated I think. Tough (especially with the shield of Ghrond) lots of wounds and gets your combat Dreadlord into combat with lots of impact hits and strikes first.
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 7 дней назад
Either a T4 Light Chariot or a Heavy Chariot with Stupidity - neither does it for me. Plus, the least impressive part of a combat elf lord is the lord's output - the Dragon's going to be doing all the heavy lifting!
@KharashTestDummy
@KharashTestDummy 7 дней назад
He’s not going to fail many stupidity tests with a Ld of 10, but yes dragons are more powerful and can totally understand the appeal. Sorceress on dragon really good.
@matthewmalovich64
@matthewmalovich64 7 дней назад
Excited to see you play Dark Elves. I’ve been painting then up for a while now and just don’t know how to make use of them. In the few games I’ve had the cold one knights have been stellar (especially with Dark Magic to give them Frenzy and Hatred). But just don’t know where to go. Hope you can help give me some guidance
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 6 дней назад
Lots of repeater xbows Matthew! I'm on the fence about the Cold Ones, they're solid - but also points dense and reduce the number of guns I bring...
@LawL_LawL
@LawL_LawL 7 дней назад
Correct, you cannot make two Flee moves with any given unit in the same phase. Evasive = FBIGO = a form of Flee move. What models do you use for those ratling guns btw? The ratling guns themselves don't look like the GW original, almost looks like they're rocket pods from a helicopter kit.
@seppbrandner
@seppbrandner 7 дней назад
Also death hag with Rune of khaine and an ogre blade makes her witch elf unit un-chargable thanks to getting 5-7 hatred (all) ogre blade attacks at initiative 10
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 7 дней назад
If your opponent has any shooting they fall over to a light breeze though. T3 with no save does not exist after turn 2 against the armies I see at events
@grlmgor
@grlmgor 6 дней назад
Yeah love the glass cannon Death Hag also headsman's axe for killing blow is nice as well. Don't forget she has poison too and you can add the banner of Har Ganeth for even more AP. Yeah T3 with no save not great maybe some honorable 8 point warrior screen?
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 6 дней назад
You need to get them into combat ASAP, so you likely want to Steed of Shadows them up the board - at which point they're hard to protect unfortunately
@seppbrandner
@seppbrandner 6 дней назад
@CloseOrder yeah, it works well in my meta since most people don't run much shooting other than magic missles, in which case I usually throw another hag with obsidian loadstones in.
@djbromley
@djbromley 5 дней назад
I've watched the rat project with interest! I would agree there is certainly a limit to how far you can take it competitively. A quick question re: evasive, FBIGO and swiftstride. Am i to understand that the swiftstride dice is being added added to both FBIGO and evasive in the Nottingham scene?
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 5 дней назад
It is indeed! Evasive is a FBiGO, which is a flee move, and Swiftstride applies to Charge, Pursuit & Flee rolles
@djbromley
@djbromley 2 дня назад
Well I have learned something new - thank you! Infantry are so limited in their functionality it seems.
@That_Rat_Bastrd
@That_Rat_Bastrd 7 дней назад
Very Skaven of you to betray us like that
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 6 дней назад
I am indeed That_Rat_Bastrd
@That_Rat_Bastrd
@That_Rat_Bastrd 6 дней назад
@@CloseOrder Bloody meta chasers 😂
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 6 дней назад
I intend to raise the playerbase of Dark Elves by at least 50% 😎 now to convince one other player to take them to a tournament...
@That_Rat_Bastrd
@That_Rat_Bastrd 5 дней назад
@@CloseOrder it's honest work mate, as a non-competent ToW player who non the less gets 50% of my games in tournaments I have appreciate your thoughts on Skaven. I have unabashedly stolen, and should today be taking a smaller Gutter Cloud (using your greyseer and BSB ideas) to a YT battle report (with Mordian Glory). Where I will doubtless make a shameful display of piloting them, hopefully having only half committed to the cloud, the rest of my list can bail me out 😅
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 9 часов назад
Hell yeah! I'll have to keep an eye out for that one - is it out now, or is it still in the pipeline?
@seppbrandner
@seppbrandner 7 дней назад
Try out beastmaster with guiding eye in a unit of scourgerunner chariots. Super fun. Usually bad but fun
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 7 дней назад
Too meme for me, you can't even use the Beastmasters Ballistic Skill on the Harpoon!
@radhanisthebold562
@radhanisthebold562 7 дней назад
It's the gutter star!
@ClydeMillerWynant
@ClydeMillerWynant 7 дней назад
Gutter Clutter.
@Tulkash01
@Tulkash01 7 дней назад
Skaven back into the sewers!
@rea9247
@rea9247 7 дней назад
How are you kitbashing your shades? The double dragon scouting approach will catch people off guard and mess with their deployment for sure. I have heard good things about witch elf death stars lead by a hag with the ogre blade and rune of khaine. 1-2 units of harpies could be good to help redirect away from the dragons flanks.
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 7 дней назад
Going with Corsairs and using the bare heads that come with the Dark Riders!
@garrettsorensen631
@garrettsorensen631 7 дней назад
I'm thinking Pegasus knights in units of 3 could be ok in lance formation. More than 5 models though seems not amazing.
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 7 дней назад
I can see a case for a big unit using lance to get all their attacks in against a slow enemy (e.g. dwarfs?) Kind of a niche use case though!
@will1228
@will1228 7 дней назад
What “gun thane” model is that from your last dwarf opponent? Looks amazing. Maybe a custom conversion?
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 6 дней назад
It's a 3d print, but I can't for the life of me remember which brand!
@SefanMader
@SefanMader 6 дней назад
Do you play on 48x72 or 42x60 tables?
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 6 дней назад
Typically the full 6'x4' boards - but LGT is on the smaller 60"x42"
@SefanMader
@SefanMader 6 дней назад
@@CloseOrder thanks
@cb3065
@cb3065 5 дней назад
What army app is that?
@CloseOrder
@CloseOrder 4 дня назад
Old World Builder!
@cb3065
@cb3065 2 дня назад
@@CloseOrder cheers
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