Thanks for getting a tormach. I have one and still need to learn how to use my machine efficiently. Appreciate that you are pitching the learning at the everyday man in the street level. Forever grateful for the academy. Perfect. 👌🏻
Im glad you got the Tormach, I got a PCNC 1100 about a year ago. I have to say that I underestimated the difficulty of Fusion 360 and actually making a part from beginning to end. Your Building block series has helped me A LOT. I have recently completed the 10M and I was even able to modify it into a part I can use. Thanks for recognizing that a lot of us use these smaller machines. Again, thanks for the BB series, it made it all possible for me.
Bought my 1100 for prototype work in 2013 but ended up pressing it into production, not very fast production, but it was "do or die" for my business then. The Tormach did and we didn't die. Five years later we built a shop and are looking at our first HAAS. 5 years we ran the Tormach and I've had a full time guy supporting his family for the past 3 years. No complaints.
Iam from Germany, and you only see DMG and Hermle over here. But both are super expensive, they also pretty damm good, but what iam trying to say is that, sometimes you dont need the best, when you cant even use it. I mean you wouldnt get a Ferrari as a first car, cause you just dont know how to use it, you will get a cheap car to learn, and in the beginning it will be enough.
I’ve used a Tormach 1100 series 3 for three years, anywhere between 12-60 hours a week depending on the requirements. Making one off parts, prototypes, and full on production for products used in woodworking. Literally checked the tram today after a year of steady use. X was out 2.5 thou over 16 inches (which was what caused me to check it, face mill wasn’t spitting parts out flat enough for my liking), Y was out 0.0008 over 8 inches. Backlash/lost motion on X was 0.0003, Y and Z were both 0.0008. My only complaint is it’s a little “hokey” using shims to tram, but I also understand the limitations enforced by price points. It’s a machine that was 22k with literally all the bells and whistles with a travel large enough to grant me the parts I needed. For woodworking tools, no one would have ever noticed that 2.5 thou variation, and it was on a cosmetic face. That’s just my personal taste coming through on consistency and quality. It’s for wood. Breathe on it wrong and it’ll change more than that variation. I learned production CNC in a mass manufacturing setting on machines that were 2.5 mil each, running dual 250kW motors on a single spindle (flowforming machines) and there’s no comparison in speed or capabilities. There shouldn’t even be a thought to compare the two. The Tormach works for what I needed it to and has allowed new products and new ideas to happen. I’ve taught four people from zero experience to being able to run parts consistently on the machine, both fixtured production as well as one-offs. Will I get a better machine? Yeah, probably down the road after this one maxes out capacity wise. But $600/month was a whole lot easier to justify than $1500 for what we needed to get done.
I just wanted to say thank you for everything you are doing to promote manufacturing in America. Your knowledge, enthusiasm, and efforts at educating the next generation are exactly what this country needs. Keep up the good work and God bless you sir!
Thank you for covering the entire spectrum of CNC machining and manufacturing in general. You are adding real value to your viewers professional, and dare I say, personal lives. Thanks!
This is an absolutety beautiful way of helping out the little guy Thanks Titan your an awesome teacher and educater. Showing that great things can be done with lower costing machines, Thanks again
Im glad you added a Tormach to your shop. I have learned a lot from the Titan Academy, but I was pulling speeds and feeds etc from NYC CNC and other youtubers. I have a 2013 PCNC1100, learning slow and building confidence thanks to folks like you sharing knowledge. Thank you 🙏🏻
I’ve been a fan of yours for awhile. And now knowing you got a 770. Gives me relief. Looking forward to buying a 770 now and learning all I can from you. You are such an inspiration. Keep doing what you do. I appreciate what you do.
I’m so happy to see you scale it down to a perspective where anyone can make parts and it can still be affordable without breaking the bank. Hope to see more videos of the tormach in the future, problem solving, maintenance, preferred tools, working around a smaller work envelope, and most other general problems one may face when dealing with a smaller machine. Thanks again Titan!
I run a fab lab at a college. We have a 770m and in a few weeks are going to be taking 20 students through a cnc class with it. I was planning on using the 1m. Thanks for this Titan
I started with one pcnc 1100 then bought another. Both still run every day. We now have three new Mori’s a Mazak and a doosan. All off the back of the same story that Titan is articulating in the video. Knowledge is key and coupled with ambition and drive it’s all possible.
Guys, forget the choice of machine here, Titan is trying to teach folks how to adapt and understand machining. I've been machining 1" aluminum for 10 years on CNC "routers" with unbelievable results, and I can tell you the ability to adapt as a machinist is the take away here. No recipe will work across all machines especially low HP mills / routers and that's reality. You've got to know how to adapt to get the best results for the given circumstances. Personally I would save my tormach $ until it gets me closer to a nicer machine but the fact Titan is using one to teach earns him mad respect from me. I totally get where he's coming from. This guy is a true educator.
With tormach, you need to be great at adapting to get ANY kind of result that isn't scrap. Or, be great at adapting the scrap that the machine produces into something else usable :-D I get the point of it as a non-production training only machine, that you don't give a shit about it being crashed all the time. If trainees are crashing a machine all the time though, there's a problem with your training :-D But to me, Titans training looks on point
@@willl84 Tormachs are CRAP they are cheap for a reason ...If you want a cheap machine and don't care much for accuracy or finish get a Tormach if you care about those things get something else NO CNC professional would touch a Tormach as their main machine....
@@captainmcderpyderp I'm not referring to ease of use lol I'm referring to these machines ability to hold tolerances and produce decent quality surface finishes. Go have a look at the scare stories, there's plenty of them. Go have a look at cnc forums and see what people have to say about their shiny new tormachs. Do a RU-vid search too. Don't tell me you're ignorant to the nightmares that people have had with these machines.
I just turned 34 and right out of high school back in 04 I got into machining, for about two years,but then changed fields into the medical field. Well now I’m back and the shop I work for is a failing shop. I’m just now getting comfortable with small set ups 1st ops and second ops. I really would love to get into schooling to learn how to fix these machines
I have a Tormach and love it. Runs on 115v right in my basement, not special wiring needed. The machine breaks down into 3 small parts that can be moved into a small location through a normal size doorway. I love having all the capability it offers right in my basement. Hard to beat. The next step up would be the Haas mini mill.
Thank you Titan for as you say "making it happen". These are critical time right now with this crazy virus. I have taking this time indoors to go though this AWESOME FREE Academy. I am a machinist by trade and wanted to step it up into design and programming, YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN !!!!!!!!!! I will continue to plug though all the courses in the Academy. My goal is to purchase a CNC to advance further into this Academy and take it hands on. I think the 700 Tormach is the way to go. Again Titan, thank you for taking the time to start this FREE Academy................its amazing !!!!!!!!
I have a tip you can make a video on. I machine a lot of weldments and often have to probe something that covers up the line of sight from my probe to the receiver. Instead of breaking out the edge finder and an extended holder I've started using a mag base with a small mirror attached. I line it up to bounce the light from the probe to the receiver. Works a treat and usually gets me some strange looks from the old time machinist in every shop I've been in.
@@jadesluv Arg. I hate it when people talk in half words trying to sound cool and knowledgeable. OK. Now it get what he is doing. But I don't know what type of prob he is using. See how much of our time he is wasting trying to guess what he's doing? OK I'm outta here. Thanks, jadesluv.
You can eat an elephant in small bites ! Glad to see you welcomed Tormach into the fold. Took me over a year to decide to pull the trigger on an 1100M..& I have been happy thus far.. Tormach has reduced the barrier to entry for CNC. Kennametal tooling and servos might let you run 60>ipm, but I run 40ipm all day long with much less. They are great little machines !
How is the backlash on your Tormach? I've been looking to pick one up, to get into CNC machining and I know that I'll already be quoting a few jobs that will require at least 1 thou tolerance. I would be pushing to start it off as a hobby and small run side jobs, with the end goal being enough work to walk away from my day job, find a space and add a HAAS Super Mini Mill to the mix.
I am Active Duty Air Force, and run a business on the side in the archery industry. I picked up a used PCNC 1100 so I can start prototyping some products I would like to eventually bring to market. Like you said in the video, what makes these machines great is you can plug them in inside your garage. Excited to see you with a tormach on your floor. As for those people saying tormach has dropped the ball on customer service. I have found that to be opposite. When I got the machine, I called tormach with questions on what I should do to make sure my machine was good to run again. They spent over an hour on the phone with me answering all of my questions. They even transfers the machine under my name in their system so they could keep me up to date on any possible previous maintenance issues. They treated me like I just purchased the machine new from them. Thanks Titan for what you are doing!
@@thearcherylab330 They're in the business of selling machines, not taking back machines and refunding people's money because the machines are garbage...
knuckles zedawg you’re entitled to your opinion about their machines.... on the other hand, I would never expect a company to refund me money for a USED machine purchased from someone else. I don’t believe Tormach has the fear of having to refund money to someone they never received money from in the first place. They did however take the time to pay someone an hourly wage to still offer product support to someone who hasn’t given them a dime.
@@thearcherylab330 I wasn't referring to used machines. I've seen the problems that people have had with their new machines, absolute garbage, lemons of machines, the problems that customers have had getting something done about it. In your case, your machine was used, I got that wrong. There's only one thing worse than a Tormach CNC, a second hand Tormach CNC!!! I'm only messing dude, hope you have better luck with yours than many people have had with their new ones :-)
Titan, I’m glad that you have a small, low HP machine. There is a lot of manufacturing going on into people’s garage, which seems to be a growing business.
.0035 difference?! Holy crap, that thing has a ton of backlash right out of the box. Respect for being honest in the video and not covering that up for Tormach. I thought they might have been sponsoring you guys or something. Great to know that you're not advocating this as a precision machine, but more as a learning tool (or something that needs a little extra work to cut the way people may need). More people need to get into this field, and you do a great job at getting information out there!
I understand why people aren't a fan of Tormach, and that's fine. But like you said. There's a place for every machine, and this just isn't comparable to the higher end ones. This allows you to enter CNC machining, but it's not intended for mastering it. Thanks for getting this out there Titan.
I started in my garage with a DIY CNC router..ran it a few years, just got a 770m to offload my aluminum products, in another couple years I hope to get a bigger better machine, I work with the tools I got to do what I gotta do and grind my ass off until I can step up to the next level, rinse and repeat.
I really appreciate your videos and free education. In mississippi education is hard to come by for younger guys with families. I try and do some of your courses when I can to hopefully make the money to afford one of these one day. I self taught myself to run over 5 or 6 machines at my work by watching them do it and they refuse to teach a "young city slicker" 😂😂. Your courses are a blessing to me and my family.
TITAN Thank you for teaching the young guys coming up today because I didn't even get Kennametal tooling till I was 55 years old and prior to that I had to make all my own tools out of blanks and as you know it becomes a talent and scars on the old digits. Also I was a machinist for a food processing plant built in 1909 in NO.LA. And when I was negoacating the employee/company contract I couldn't get them to hire an apprentice and when I told them all the young guys were going to school to learn CNC. They kept trying and could not find qualified people. Needles to say we had no CNC`s the best we had was, never mind I don't even want to go there. Keep up the good work I'm so impressed with what y'all are doing and CNC,s. JCB.
Titan! Love your videos man. I work for G.E. Aviation making parts for Boeing and Airbus jets. We make parts for their engines. It’s awesome seeing the videos you put out trying to not just show off what y’all are capable of, but to try and teach people that this is a legitimate trade to learn out of high school. Keep it up man!
P.s. forgot to mention to titan that I appreciate you willingness and effort to simply put out videos for people to learn/watch. A new generation of learning is taking place, and it’s not all from institutions that people enroll at. Keep it up bro!!
Looking forward to seeing what you guys do with these machines. They are ideal for teaching videos as so many people new to CNC can actually buy and install one.
I bought a used 1100. Did a 2 year CNC program. I got trained on Haas machines, Im very aware of the differences, it's a little painfully slow at times but I'm making decent parts(within expected specs) acumilating customers, learning small, failing small. -5k in. When the time comes I'll get a Haas. Great learning, get in the game tool. imho.
I'm very happy about this and hope Titan does a whole series with Tormac. Great job and I'm glad you didn't bust out the 1100mx, its good to start small. This is going to be so good for so many beginners.
I am so excited to see you getting a Tormach 770M+. I am getting ready to pull the trigger a 770. Doesn't appear the M+ is available to the general public yet. Looking forward to Tormach specific videos. Titan, thank you for everything you do. Your mission from God is a blessing to many people of all ages.
I bought a Tormach lathe before my Doosan Lynx 220 LSYC. It has it's place--I agree with Titan 100%. Now I almost have as much in live tooling on my Doosan as the price of the Tormach lathe. It's a place to start.
I've got an 1100 as well. Went the opposite direction - started 3D printing, ended up with a ShopBot router, and then wanted something that could handle Aluminum for prototyping and parts that we make in house. No question that we couldn't crank out dozens of +/-0.001 parts a day with it. But, we don't need to do that here and have never actually had any problems with the tolerance of the parts that we do create. Totally respect where everyone is coming from on the production side - you'd probably lose your mind trying to hit your tolerance and production targets with a Tormach. But, damn, I have come a long way with this machine. There's no way I would have had the cahones to go drop down on a Haas to learn how to machine. Now, I feel like if I decide to do that, it will be money well spent, and I'll know what to do with it. Even if I did that though, I bet the Tormach would stay in service for 2nd ops, etc. so it's definitely money well spent IMO.
Good for Titan owning a successful company with plenty of top of the line machines yet getting a Tormach just to relate to the people he’s trying to educate. Great options for schools and such, much less likely you will seriously hurt yourself with one of these, but my advice to someone looking at one for anything other then strictly education is spend the same money and shop out a used vmc. No comparison and you’ll be happy in the long run you did!
@@chrisyboy666 Probably 600 + grand in non Haas equipment. Not sure how much qualifies as "plenty" to you but that sure is plenty to me. Haas are great machines for the money. There is no company anywhere that sells the quality and service you get with Haas for the price. Just does not exist. You get 2 5 axis for the price of one from another company. How can anybody possibly complain about that? BTW enjoy waiting 3 months for your GF Mikron service part to come in the mail from Germany, cause the Haas guys got one right in the van outside!
Hey Titan, we exchanged PM's back and forth, you recommended a tormach... after watching this video, I'm feeling a little more confident in this. You're right, it doesn't have to be a forever machine just a stepping stone to move up into a more expensive unit.
That is a great strategy! So many parts can deal with a large tolerance. I think you are on the right track, and comparing the cycle times between a DMG and a Tormach could be eye opening in both directions.
Titian your spot on as normal! Love the angle as you hit the nail on the head (60 year old guy with a hobby business on the side)! As there is a huge difference in a Tormach and HaaS namely price! But the ideas as you point are the same!
Haas are far, far better machines than tormach. Completely different league. And Haas are a long way from major league themselves. It's just that tormach are the absolute lowest of the low. Utter garbage.. At least Haas are pretty reliable and can hold good tolerances. A million miles better than tormach shite
@@neilhuband995 Sorry you could not be more wrong. You have to evaluate the purpose of the machine for the purchaser. Nobody with any sense thinks that a Tormach is in the same league as machines that cost 2 to 100 times as much! We don't need you to point that out. So yeah, if you expect a $15k machine to be fully the functional equivalent of even a $40k machine, well you're in for a disappointment. But if a Tormach PCNC is affordable and its specs and capabilities are in line with your needs, then it is a perfectly viable option. Tormach's line includes reasonable choices for specific use cases. These may not be *your* use cases. I have to say I find it sad that someone who supposedly knows all about Tormach's and Haas' and even 'real' high-end CNC machines would be so clue free when it comes to understanding other people's needs. For me, even a baby Haas is simply not a viable option. So if I took your advice, I'd do what exactly to develop self-taught CAD/CAM and CNC skills? I'm not looking to make money, I've been working for 40+ years doing that. I want to pursue this for personal satisfaction. And the performance envelope of Tormach's machines includes all I really need to get started and for at least the next few years. But of course it's a free country and, as a wise machinist once told me, you're entitled to your wrong opinion...
Glad to see you do this video Titan. I have completed the Rocket series and most of the Building block series on a Tormach 1100 with a Rapidturn attachment. Not all of the Kennametal tooling or speed and feed are appropriate for the Tormach but replacements were easy to figure out. I hope you release recommended speeds and feed for the projects for smaller mills and also perhaps a tooling recommendation from Kennametal just for Tormach. Thanks for all you do.
I love watching all your videos & it's a joy to watch & has been the most in depth and educational, as I'm looking to train as a machinist with CNC training & a very positive inspiration towards the niche of manufacturing that will be a fulfilling experience, process & a career and will allow me to complete my own personal hobby projects. Thank you Titan
The y dimension was spot on and the x dimension was too big by .0035" . This means the ballscrew compensation needs to be adjusted on x not the cutter compensation. If you adjust the cutter comp the y is going to be too small.
I wish I had watched this video earlier. Having owned a PCNC1100 for almost two years now, I think the Tormach machines are great for filling a niche where a hobbyist or entry-level machinist needs a capable machine but doesn't have it in the budget for something with a 40 or 50 taper spindle. I'd love to see what kind of cim you can push the 770 to in future videos. I've found some great roughing tools that I use frequently, and find it funny when people tell me it's not a "real" machine.
Milbert,Here's the thing. I've been a machinist longer than I haven't been. I generally don't offer unsolicited advise because it's often percieved as arrogant an I guess I can see where some folks could feel that way. However against my better judgement im gonna throw this out there.These two things helped me more than almost anything else. 1- D8nt be side tracked by people like the smart ass that commented on " However it a life changing experience:" Well trying to explain to those folks is a waste of time"(you seem to have that young right direction. 2- always keep your mind thinking outside the box,and never stop learning meaning just cause it's a process that you or employees have always did it that way. Doesnt mean there's not a better,faster more efficient & economical way to produce what's needed
This inspired me to get all "Titan" on my 770. Went full depth of cut with a 3/8" , 3 flute on 6061-T 6. Running wide open at 10,000 rpm, I found my limit to be about 80 ipm with a 5% WOC.
I just purchased this exact machine about a month ago and ive been watching your videos to learn fusion 360. Im trying to bridge the skills gap you speak of!
Wow, a lot of haters, guess they don’t understand that people have different ideas and requirements for purchasing machines. If you are a business that needs to make parts and lots of them then yes this is not the machine for you, nor if you have critical tolerances. But maybe for people like me that want something that no one manufactures and don’t want to spend 150k on a machine , well it’s fine for me! I’ve been able to learn cad/cam (fusion 360-free$) purchase a machine (tormach 1100) for less than beater car, hit the you tube university (free) and within a year build a rather complex model. About 300-400$ worth of broken endmills, learning curve, one soft crash, And this machine sits in my shop, doesn’t have to make me money, just makes me happy. Now I have something that no one on this planet was manufacturing. Yes I would like to have a haas vf3 (money is not an issue) but practicality is, $30 tool holder vs $130. Space, power requirements, am I going to actually use it? I don’t need to finance or do I? Am I expecting to pay less for a machine and not willing to put in the effort to learn how it works?, set it up? Adjust it? Or am I going to pay travel expenses for the tec to on my $150k machine? I’m happy with what I have and I also have realistic expectations. I think the haters are just not willing to accept the fact that in business you have to be working and have to keep employees and machines working or you will no longer be in business and someone will be wanting that expensive machine back you financed.
Very cool that you set to teach on a small machine. I have a Tormach look-a-like and that teaches you a lot because you don't have the horsepower or rigidity to plow through material, so you have to learn the tools, parameters and strategies. And you're right, you need good, sharp cutting tools on those machines more than on any other.
It's awesome what you do titan for us anybody because I've worked with experts I consider in metal foundries metal fabrication and now Machining for the last five years which I love and the people that have the knowledge 92 99% of them they don't give it up easy they don't share their knowledge they don't like it but it's awesome that you do yeah actually know stuff that you actually share thanks man that's cool
Hey Titan This is crunch time for Tormach. I know a pretty sharp guy that got a Tormach, and it couldn't interpolate round bores. Even after the company finally couldn't make it work, he ended up returning it, but it cost him some really significant money. I know a few people that had considered one of these Mills, but put on the brakes to see if their accuracy / quality improved. It's a great concept. Affordable, 120 v single phase power, etc. I hope with the machine improvements, it proves to be a good machine in your hands. There are guys that will be relying on your integrity to give this machine, and the company that supports it, a real world run for the money test. I'm a huge fan of what you do encouraging young people to get into manufacturing, and offer training online. I hope this proves to be successful . Take care Bud.
Thanks, I will not compromise and will just make parts and inspect them, calling out what I see. Of course, as I said... If I get +-.005, then I am happy because does not compete with a Haas etc. It’s affordable and you get what you pay for. I am just excited that young people and even schools can afford a CNC.
@@TITANSofCNC Knowledge is power and it seems like you're in a fairly unique position to give people unbiased knowledge. I believe you when you say you'll call out what you see (the good and the bad). 3.5 thousandths doesn't sound too bad to me, but the poeple from Tormach also, presumibly, had setup and adjusted the machine as well as could be expected, so it seems like the part was made under somewhat ideal conditions. Are you planning to do an "initial impressions" vlog?
@@Hirudin I agree with you, and this is what made me look a different direction. I would have loved to get a Tormach way sooner and get after making parts. But ultimately since they don't inspect machines in the US before sending them out, it made me worried about what I would get. I certainly don't think everyone needs a Brother Speedio like we have, but it was a lot more turn key with setup from Yamazen. Of course, not everyone can justify that. My lathe I bought first from Automate as the price was pretty similar at the time, I like the Siemens control, it seems to be a good control system, but has taken a lot of work to get it the way I want. But Automate does inspect and do a test cut on their machines before sending them out, so to me that was valuable. Tormach makes sense when it comes to education, as tolerances shouldn't be a critical concern, and you likely have an experienced person who can adjust the machine and keep things in working order. You also have way less risk if/when students crash the machine. Something that does happen. I've crashed my lathe, but never the mill, only mishap in the mill has been a tool pull out. But sure it'll happen at some point.
Yeah, people, please save the money you were gonna spend on a new tormach, and instead put it towards a good quality second hand machine, or even a new Haas. Haas are pretty decent. I hate the on machine programming on them, but otherwise they're half decent machines
Knuckles : That is safe, good advice, that I generally agree with. Buying a quality used, name brand, real production machining center will almost definitely out last a new Tormach. I'm hoping the Tormach proves to be a winner though. It gives start up shops an affordable three axis option. That being said, I just saw where two Matsuura 510 three axis Mills with MX3 Yasnac controls with 20 tool, tool changers, with tooling went for less than $5k each, but they needed to be moved asap for new Haas machines that were on their way. I love Haas machines, but to get two good working 510's , with tooling, for less cost than one Tormach, as long as you can power them up, it's a no brainer. I'm hoping the Tormach proves to be a great machine for Titan. If it won't make round bores by interpolating, you could always use the machine to find the position, rough bore, then set up boring tooling to size and make the bores round. Lots of ways to accomplish a task.
Hey, nice video. You learn to machine on the low H.P. machine first and then when you do step up things just get a little easier. I am glad you decided to get that machine. I think it will help inspire those that are not that confident yet, and they are not out a ton of money and it fit's under the garage door. i assume it is Single phase? Nice job as always Titan !!
I hold parts to +/- .001 all day every day on my manual mill with a DRO system that's worth more than the mill is. I'm enrolling in your CNC academy in the next few days.
Dam i need one of these , thanks for doing this video Titan , you guys are gonna be a game changer in my life . im taking the coarse as well as a free fusion 360 course . little late at 40 years old but hey retirement aint in my plan
Awesome Job ! Tormach's have there place in the industry and home machine shops. I love to see your take on an awesome machine and thanks to all you do to pay forward everyone can learn from your video's and the others who share their knowledge and experience. Haters will Hate but they are just keyboard cowboys.
Titan I love that you show the world how to make it happen. Please make a video with some big cuts on the Tormach I'm wondering whether it is worth it to buy!!!!!
Will you put together a kennametal tool kit for the Tormach. I have a 440 and do not have rigid tapping. A lesson on how to single head thread mill would be helpful to a lot of people.
To do single point threads in Fusion is super simple no matter what machine you have. You can use the Thread cycle or the Bore cycle, just a few clicks and BOOM you're threading like a pro. If you need help, let me know.
back in the day before rigid tap we all used Floaters - compression style - its recommended that you underfeed about 5% so if you had S200 and F10. for 1/4-20 use f9.5 with a floating holder
@@jamesm3268 hey bud I already thread mill with the 440. I just thought it would make a good video...being self taught I know what a pain it was to figure it out... maybe that's just me but still love informational videos.
I have an old 1972 Bridgeport mill (BOSS 5) the controller died. Re wired it with new parts, now it runs MACH 4 fund great total cost was less than $1500. With a little work you can have a 2 HP machine in your garage also.
Just wanted to say, from a fellow ex con who who has changed his ways...you are an inspiration. I always drooled over cnc machines but simply assumed I’d never be able to afford one. I need a big change in my life right now for my kids’ sake and I know this is it. Time to get all these ideas out of my head and into the real world. Any recommendations on a good manual mill under 10k from the pros here? I figure that would be a good way to grasp the basic principles and would surely get several of my inventions going. Any help would be appreciated.
Depending on where you live, you should be able to pick up a good used manual mill for 3-5k fairly easy. Even less if you're in the right place at the right time.
Dennis Fry Thanx for the reply. I’ve been looking at the precision Mathews bench mills like the pm 30mv especially since there are cnc kits out there for them already. At the moment the machines I am needing to build could easily be 5 thou off and be ten times more precise then the best ones the market has to offer. Not that I would except that cuz perfection. However I would like something solid and reliable to fall back on. Any brands you personally would recommend? My mind tells me go big or go home considering I could finance the haas mini mill for less then I pay for my car every month, but I gotta stretch before I sprint.
Im new to CNC machining and I now owe a Tormach 770, my biggest hurtle that I can seem to get through is adjusting the tolerances. Titan, could you make a video on this subject? Thank you for all the great content and the academy.
I actually got emotional on this vid. Being fed up with my mechanical designer job 3 years ago because they would buy a knee mill for us to use, my wife told me to buy my own. Being a cad designer, I decide on a Tormach vs a cheap chinese manual mill. Long story short, I learned from running onsie twosie runs, doing prototype parts from copper and aluminum and some stainless adding up to almost 250+ different parts for my day job that would even buy a $1000 knee mill. Now they love me as the local shops have long leadtimes and high setup costs vs me being paid hourly. Best part is I get sent home most of the time to work! I get to spend time with my wife as she homeschools our boy and things are overall blessed. As of today, I'm getting ready to buy a Haas all because of the business I am getting now. Tormach was a great machine to learn on and I'll now let my young son start learning on the 440 to someday work along side me...God willing. Love your vids brother.
Machines like this definitely have a place. We have a big shop with a lot of impressive high end machines. But even seeing those run every day, I looked very hard at tormach when I started looking at a home mill. Why? Exactly why Titan said: Easy power requirements, small footprint, and capable enough.
Very excited about this! I've been learning on a Tormach 770 and have a hard time dialing in those feeds and speeds for the lower power of the machine.
Nice video. Thank you! You might want to try out Tormach's "super fly" fly cutter to face off your parts. Not sure if it would fit in your machine but its worth checking out even for your bigger machines. Tormach makes good, reliable, and affordable products!
i love my 1100M... does everything i need it to plenty fast enough for me. if your use case is prototyping, it's hard to see how you can go wrong for the price. that's not to say it won't remove material pretty effectively with a shear hog either... not really sure i'd want anything much more aggressive running in the garage :).
I am one of those that purchased from tormach and has it in my garage. I still am looking for help learning fusion 360. I'm always seeing these video making it look easy but not really speaking to the true beginner.
What you said makes a lot of sense. I'm sure in the back of your mind you thought about all the haters you were going to have to deal with on this video. But this is part of your mission and good for you. Do you have a patreon?
@@neilhuband995 he could buy any 3-axis machine I would bet...why go out of his way to get a Tormach...unless it actually works for his application (education)? I think the Tormach excels at being a good education platform....are you gonna win any races? Almost guaranteed not, compete on price with a large job shop? Nope. Does it allow you to do some in-house R&D and prototype something new? It seems likely. You may even get a machine that has amazing accuracy or know how to adjust yours to that kind of accuracy. For me it wasn't the machine, but for many I can see it might be. Then again, prices are going up on them, especially when you add a tool changer. I think they are now creeping up towards Mini Mill pricing.
Titan this awesome. A Tormach with servos is not available to the general public...yet. if it was I would have bought one. Allegedly when the MX comes out M owners will be able to upgrade.
