My OrangeStorm Giga STILL DOESN'T WORK 

That needs to be its name

No. He got the Prusa XXXL.

@@BrunodeSouzaLino that is an elegloo not a Prusa

@@Deviled_EG Whoosh.

r/woosh

I know I’ll get there, just wish it was sooner.

That’s SO TRUE.

This is why I get what Elegoo did (not that I agree with it) - one of the major concerns about the Sovol SV04, even with the Z-axis offset adjustment knob on its second extruder, is that an uneven bed will lead to only Extruder 1 having accurate Z-axis compensation and Extruder 2 will be too close or too far away without warning. Same thing with the Stacker 3D S4XL we had at my last job - getting one print head properly leveled with the insane 9-point leveling system was hard enough, we gave up after getting two of the dependent print heads leveled because #3 and #4 were impossible to keep in the same plane. All that being said, Elegoo's independent bed quadrant leveling system is still really dumb. A flat plane is defined by three points, a subject that has come up many times over the last 5-10 years when talking about printer beds with four leveling knobs...having nine adjustment points is a recipe for failure. Having nine adjustment points times four bed quadrants is possibly a Geneva Convention violation being committed on Elegoo's customers. Not that any ideas I have are necessarily any better, but for a ridiculously large and expensive printer maybe some pancake stepper motors to live adjust the Z-offset for each print head isn't all that terrible?

@@justinchamberlin4195 A plane is defined by 3 points is absolutely correct mathematically, but across a bed this size the real world is going to come knocking. That bed is going be sagging if you don't have supports across its face, all those springs and screws allow you dial in something resembling co-planar to the print head axis. Where just having 3 adjustment points either the bed is going to need to be heavier and stiffer than the entire rest of the machine to hold itself 'flat' against its own weight or the whole frame of the machine is what you are adjusting instead, which then means your probably wanting to build a delta printer... And being so huge with only 3 points of contact/support the bed will then take on a major warp as it heats no doubt, not to mention as it had to be made so much heavier and stiffer to be even close to flat in the first place it has way more thermal mass to heat, so consumes way more energy to get to temperature. So by having all those screws and springs it really helps - the bed expands as heated but is now constrained much nearer the expected position because it is constrained across its whole surface and the small gap between the quadrants allows for each one to expand without actually having to deform out of plane, and the bed doesn't need to be super expensive thick and heavy to hold itself flat... Then you have the simple practically that making a single piece bad that large with heater is going to be hugely wasteful of energy whenever you are not needing all 4 quadrants, nearly impossible to ship etc. Seems like they have some quality control and design issues with the hot end but the mechanical concept is about as good as it can be in the real world. If you are not willing to put the effort in to calibrating your giant printer and its many heads you probably didn't need it in the first place... Or you have the money to build the machines upfront and printers that never stop running so you don't pay the huge heatup costs often to make a giant cast iron bed viable...

Production versions start arriving this month. Fixing time is short!

This is too big for the window

@@psxtuneservice Joel could throw it at Microsof Windos instead, might do a dent...

Hahha :)

HAHA too funny! I agree on the fixes we have all asked for, and hoping they get them to us soon!

Even though you guys are having challenges, you are the lucky few who get to test the printer before the public! I'm sure that feels really cool to be apart of even though issues are happening. Thank you for pointing them out for the vast majority of people who will be buying one in the future!

I'm hoping production costs don't kill them addressing early issues you guys are seeing. A front spool mount option makes worlds of sense, a longer power cord (even if it is just a few feet longer) would be nice, and it is sounding like we need some corner angle supports in increase rigidity, and reduce vibrations.

Somebody needs to beta test new printers and give feedback, so the average consumer later gets smoother experience. But how do you feel about that? (Manufacturer sending free printers for you to beta test, bug hunt etc, spending time and nerves), is it fair?

Don't sell things that don't work as advertised

With the Giga, technically I have FOUR Neptune 4 Max printers ;)

@@3DPrintingNerd indeed, I feel your pain! Good luck my max doesn't seem to work with the bed mesh, and you'll likely only get the best result with their dated cura software 😵

​@@nooblaI have a Neptune 3 Max and use Prusa Slicer, And sometimes the Elegoo Cura software. The machine operates flawlessly, After I discovered a software issue. When I first got my machine. It worked flawlessly. So, I tried my hand at customizing some settings, And started getting bad prints. So I changed all of my settings back to default. But even after reverting to the default settings. The machine still wouldn't print as good as it did when I first got it. After a couple months. I needed to reformat my pc, And reinstall everything. Because I like to keep my pc running in peak condition. It was then that I realized it was never the machine that was causing the printing issues. It was something going on with the slicer software. Because even though I changed the slicer settings back to default, The prints still looked like garbage. But after the pc reformat, And reinstalling drivers and software. The machine was printing as good as new again. Haven't have a single issue with the machine since then.

There are a fair number of people with this machine, and everyone has had a different experience. That's not a good thing :(

Dr.D-Flo's issue with the limit sensor getting ripped off by the exposed filament wasn't great either... sounds like a product that's still in Beta phase.

They really are. It's insane they can get people to buy a half finished product like this.

The first printer I got was a Creality Ender 3 S1 Plus. For the life of me I could not get that thing to print no matter what I did. I ended up returning it and buying an FLSun SR. Worked right out of the box and prints beautifully and fast. A great experience so far!

@@eliyahumedia An Ender 3 almost made me quit the hobby. I became overly familiar with its guts but nothing would stay where it was supposed to once adjusted and it was an endless nightmare. Eventually I bought a cheap "beginner's" machine with automatic everything, a Mingda Magician X, and it's been running almost daily for 18 months+ and the only thing I do with it is change the nozzle. Never calibrated it any way other than auto-leveling the bed. Prints have been top-notch since the beginning. Unfortunately, Nathan BR and other have reported newer Mingda printers do dumb stuff like bursting into flames

That's why I'm waiting to buy the K2 Plus. The K1 had so many issues that I don't feel confident in their new model right out of the gate.

For my ender 3 the biggest thing that fixed my bed leveling issues was getting a glass bed. Now I rarely have to adjust it.

Aww that’s really kind of you to say! Thank you!

Tbf this is still a preproduction unit

@@BelviGER My Neptune 4 max wasn’t. Hopefully they get the bugs sorted out but they don’t have a good track record.

How COOL would that be???

That was my first thought as well

@@3DPrintingNerd with the addational degree of freedom for tap it would have a hard time breaking the heat break too

No... Slap FOUR Stealthburners on it!

That would be epic.

I have a neptune 3 max that has been flawless.

To be fair joel is the most patient and understanding person I've ever seen, he doesn't get mad and yell or hit it with his car he works for a solution in situations others would walk away mad

@@TheNetworkingGuy tell that to the Ender 7

Except they aren't, he literally said it at the end it's a review unit and it's supposed to be done to get feedback so the Kickstarter backers don't have to deal with this.

TBF they aren't selling them yet, and this is roughly what I'd expect from a Kickstarter printer. What do they expect, they support an established company in a product that doesn't gain anything from crowdfunding. It's the own fault of anybody who ordered it. Gamers are starting to realize that one shouldn't pre-order, maybe one day 3d printing people will learn it as well. I hope I will buy a Giga one day, but that's only if it's actually a decent quality product. Same reason I only just now ordered a Prusa XL - I know it's real world strengths and weaknesses

To be fair 3D printing is still a new thing. I don't expect it to be as easy as your every day office printers.

Once it’s working again, I’ll be doing that

Doing some more testing right now. Luke and Luke’s Laboratory is busy prepping for RAPID as well, so it’ll be a bit. BUT it is coming!

@@3DPrintingNerd awesome 👌

Most everyone I know with this machine has had the nozzle carve into the build plate.

Waiting on something like this is a good idea.

@@3DPrintingNerd Yes. You can suffer so that we don't have to :)

2 days UGH

@@3DPrintingNerd 😓