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My Painting Doesn't Look Like My Reference

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I don't know how many other artists get this when they draw or paint humans, but (well-meaning?)people usually try to guess which celebrity they think I've depicted, or they surrender when they can't figure out who it's supposed to be. What if I told you you can paint a person without them being someone famous? 7.5 billion people in the world and it has to be someone you recognize? Ok. Anyway, this video is about not worrying about likeness when it's not important to your artwork.
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@LarrivaArt 4 года назад

Reference is an ingredient in your dish. You get to choose how much to use, what other ingredients & spices to add, and how to prepare it. Take a nice andouille sausage and make a delicious gumbo with it. Serve boiled, unseasoned chicken breast if that's your choice.

@oilpaintingacademyopa2961 4 года назад

So true..keep up the great art

@jeffkingston67 4 года назад

Well, put.

@ihave25subslol45 4 года назад

Wow, only two replies, such an underrated pinned comment

@MissWyatt 4 года назад

Sounding like my color and composition professor 💖💕

@ellyk6930 4 года назад

Your way to make arts is fantastic! So true, my paintings don't look like my references at all too. It's crazy but I'm not into it to paint it exactly like references. They are only ideas to make my own paint. Would be happy if you check my Instagram @_ellispainting_ painting for life 😉🙏

@ZackBlackMusic 5 лет назад

Thanks for the reminder, reference photos are for reference, not for making an exact copy. Well done sir.

@daisies667 5 лет назад

Zack Blei so you’re saying that if someone wants to copy the reference for practice is bad?

@swahrosier4179 5 лет назад

@@daisies667 it's not a bad thing it just doesn't have to be your goal.

@daisies667 4 года назад

Swah Rose i said “practice” lmao

@daisies667 4 года назад

I Løve Jøsh Dun. Oh obviously, that’d be so lame

@friedricengravy6646 4 года назад

I Løve Jøsh Dun. Take ur own photos, especially for portraits....no one wants to sit for extended time or multiple sessions. But, I agree there is no right or wrong way to make art. Express something & b honest. Love life-Make art ✌🏻

@averyartisticraccoon3007 5 лет назад

Because at the end of the day your painting WILL STAND ALONE! Not hanging next to the reference! One of my greatest, and first lessons when I became a portraiture artist

@sameehakhaliq8327 5 лет назад

But I feel embarrassed when people ask me for their portraiture and I fail to achieve likness

@averyartisticraccoon3007 5 лет назад

This is true. That’s why I use vibrant strokes with color coming through to help portray life or sadness or whatever the face says ya know? I try. I love this guys work for that I also work fast and without inhibition or too much detail to help the characters come alive. AlSo, color is a huge factor in mood . So ask yourself what mood this person is giving before u paint. I mean just a few things I’ve learned to train myself to do before or during a piece I care Bout😊😉 if u are an artist and ya e any tips to share please do😊

@sameehakhaliq8327 5 лет назад

@@averyartisticraccoon3007 yes I'm a self taught artist. I have starting drawing myself regularly at least thus way nobody judge me. And lioness comes with time. Just work and enjoying the process.

@hmmmph3578 4 года назад

@@sameehakhaliq8327 True, but sometimes we can still capture the person;s character without getting an exact likeness. I practice on self portraits.

@AngelCaz7 4 года назад

this is what i always keep in mind!

@shallo8515 5 лет назад

Me: feels proud of being able to draw exactly like my reference. This video: I’m gonna end this man’s whole career.

@bramvanderwoerdt7186 4 года назад

it's still good to practice that, because it's a good test to know that you can really make anything you think of. figuring out what it is you want to make is the next step, no?

@thealombaard9704 4 года назад

In other words you’re just a copier

@shallo8515 4 года назад

@@thealombaard9704 I know and now I'm sad :(

@shallo8515 4 года назад

@@bramvanderwoerdt7186 I'm adding bunch of bright colors where it wasn't there in the reference, now everything looks like rainbow themed... still figuring out which combination fits well together :)

@FlexiAlexiLove 4 года назад

That's an important first step though. Know your rules before you break them. Making your art exactly like your reference is good if that's what you're going for

@kennybrightwell1877 5 лет назад

I’d honestly just settle on things looking recognizably human when I draw them.

@aidenflame1576 4 года назад

oh god, moooooooood

@macaroon147 4 года назад

It's all up to you as the artist.

@ChrisBreier 5 лет назад

"Art making is decision making" I would add that each painting requires at least a thousand decisions!😮

@VimeleosZen 4 года назад

I tried to paint billie eilish but it doesn’t look like her though it still looks good by itself

@GettinLa8d 4 года назад

Exactly, why should we as artists overly concern ourselves with recreating images [perfectly] when the camera can do it so much better? Best to channel the reference through oneself and see what feeling or emotion we are able to export from it. My process and opinion at least.

@chocotoasties2671 4 года назад

It comes from a sense of pride. Back in the day, artists didn't even have the tech to capture a person's likeness with a click, and some people want to capture that realistic aesthetic with their hand instead of tech. Should they worry so much or put themselves down because they can't capture it exactly? Nope. But there's an appeal.

@friedricengravy6646 4 года назад

Check out Voka -the painter....he provides both, a likeness & expression. But no right or wrong way to make art. Just b honest & express something. ✌🏻

@itsamiracle1692 4 года назад

i feel the same way, in a way. i don’t love recreating photos through art exactly the same as the photo looks because there’s not any fun in that. where’s the interest? i’d rather see something recreated in an abstract way because you can see the artist through it. my thoughts exactly.

@tryptamineodyssey 4 года назад

The art of shedding perfection and portraying inimitability

@driesketels 5 лет назад

Your painting doesn't need to look like the reference. Good looks tend to fade out but the mind never does, it only grows. That's why good portrait art at all times needs to capture the soul of the subject. The face is the mirror of the mind (and not the mirror of the looks). You've done a great job in capturing the soul of the woman here. It's often in the eyes, the eyes of people reflect the desires of their heart. Eyes in artworks have something special, they often times say more then words can. Eyes are very similar to drawings in that regard, if you can say it in words there's no need to draw it...

@GrumpetteJV 5 лет назад

Oh, I love your words. 🖤

@driesketels 5 лет назад

@@GrumpetteJV Thanks JV, enjoy your day my friend. :)

@BrunaOneGirlBand 4 года назад

omg yes!! This is what I always thought. Being able to recriate an exact perfect copy of a photo takes incredible talent and technique, and it is admirable, of course, but a little boring. What I love about art is the ability to create something new, turning into reality a vision that only existed in your head. Putting yourself and your own style into it and making it unique. I just don't see the appeal of looking at something that is exactly like something else that already exists. A perfect copy.

@lotte7971 4 года назад

Yeah, that kind of painting is really dated. Now we have cameras we don't need that skill so much lol

@Stanzafly 4 года назад

@@lotte7971 Well, the skill is not so much a bad thing to have. It's the content- the idea behind the work that makes it valuable. There was actually a photorealism movement in the 60s and 70s that was responding to minimalism and pop art. It was meant to be commentary on what was appropriate subject matter for art (rebelling against the idea that only certain topics could be considered art) - they would take ordinary things like cars and make them important by recreating them photo-realistically. So I wouldn't say that it's dated so much that it's had its purpose. To use it just to show off your skill? Boring and kind of conceited. Back then, it had an important reason to exist within the narrative of art history. Now? People just kind of use it to recreate celebrities and post it on Instagram.

@peachypear931 4 года назад

*YES*

@BrunaOneGirlBand 4 года назад

@@Stanzafly "people use it to recreate celebrities and post it on Instagram." EXACTLY!! The ability can be extremely useful if you use it to create your own things, like in game development or animation for instance. But just copying a photo is boring to me.

@cargoloyalty9978 4 года назад

I’m only an artist by hobby, but I actually love realism. To me at least, it’s immensely satisfying to struggle with it to look like your reference and then hopefully achieve it. I don’t know why, but I enjoy it personally lol.

@Aresous 5 лет назад

@LarrivaArt would you ever consider talking about your process vocally? For instance, I'd love to hear your thought process behind color choice and ESPECIALLY shape design, as you do so well in making abstract chaos look grounded and structured. Very fudging good shape design man. Love your art.

@LarrivaArt 5 лет назад

Listening to my own voice while editing videos makes me nauseous, so I don't do it often. I do have some narrated demos on Patreon, but I'll keep those topics in mind for future videos.

@jayashreeshenoy1166 5 лет назад

Ya true.... trying to read the text and watching the video is difficult and most of the time we Missout or have to replay the video many times over ... thereby loosing the flow.

@Aresous 5 лет назад

@@LarrivaArt I'm sure your voice is fine my friend. But I respect whatever decision you make. Cheers.

@classicalmusic1175 4 года назад

I totally agree. I paint landscapes mainly, and often I leave things out from my references or even add things that aren't there. It's not compulsory to produce an exact replica of your reference. You are in charge of what goes into your work.

@hanthonyc 5 лет назад

Funnily enough, i can still see the likeness of the model in your portrait- my facial references tend to be starting points, and the finished product may look wildly different (though, this could be due to my nasty habit of overworking a project) Also, because I feel weird about painting off of exact images, i tend to photoshop together a collage of images as a reference. This girls eyes, that cool mouth, that curly wig... same for landscapes. Of course, (hopefully) my paintings don't look like a collage at the end, but as if it was always one consistent product. Pretty fun, too!

@Drawing-Life 5 лет назад

Couldn't agree more - i find it true for drawing especially; theres an emphasis placed on getting exact likeness, but so often that leads to preventing your own expression as an artist.

@LizGridleyArtist 5 лет назад

(tell the cat I love him too) Also, awesome work with the muted saturation

@itssoxdelicious 4 года назад

I discovered your channel 30 minutes ago and I'm already in love with it. In awe of your artwork !!!

@ghostlyautaum 4 года назад

Firstly: your art is beautiful! I love your use of color, I aspire to be this good one day! I can’t wait to see what else you make! Secondly: Thank you for showing me references are simply that, your piece doesn’t have to be an exact copy! When I do portraits I always feel bad because my piece doesn’t look like my ref, thank you for showing me I’m focusing on the wrong things! I loved this video, I can’t wait to see more! 💕

@artloveranimation 4 года назад

I love how when you first start painting it’s like you’re sculpting the face from the shadows. I kinda wish you had a video where you talked overtop the timelapse for more tips on how you pick colors of different tones for impressionist style

@LarrivaArt 4 года назад

Thanks. I have some narrated, full-length videos on Patreon. www.patreon.com/johnlarriva

@tommyjohnson7280 4 года назад

i love how you put out the colors on the palette and rough blend amazing also dang good likeness for NOT ttrying!thanks love art is decision making

@stolenyouth203 5 лет назад

Felt inspired watching this so thank you for that :) also would love to see your art in bigger formats I think you could create even more emotion and atmosphere on a bigger canvas. much love, Alexej Fjodorowitsch

@LarrivaArt 5 лет назад

I've done bigger stuff, and even attempted to film, but unfortunately video of large paintings is too difficult considering the time frame and making sure the camera is always rolling.

@grisomeow311 5 лет назад

the best I've seen today, thank you for your art

@ericviguie5069 5 лет назад

Still a particular moment of my day when I watch your new videos, great work again, thx for the inspiration.

@skribblefingers9724 5 лет назад

John! You're a huge inspiration to me and my art, and I just wanted to say thank you for uploading this and making this point. I've been really disappointed with my recent paintings lately the more I compare them to the references, but you're completely right. they're just a starting point, our brains have so much more to add!!

@Sunnyside--Up 4 года назад

The painting is better than the photo. There is more emotion and expression. Beautiful!

@ihaventgrownaspine9994 4 года назад

Love the cat by the way xD Whoo! Positive energy to start my day

@corneliahuber9320 5 лет назад

I needed this video and I didn't even know it. I always get way too hung up on making a drawing or painting as close to the reference as possible, that I stop having a good time and stop being actually creative. And the "mistakes" keep bothering me until I get so frustrated, that I throw away my painting. In the end of the day those differences from the photo make my painting a painting and not just another photocopy.

@ArtPro00 5 лет назад

Wow! The result is even better than the reference! Awesome!

@mysecretsketchbook865 4 года назад

Your paintings are WORLD CLASS. Well done.

@jessicamccall7256 4 года назад

I love the rambling on the corner 😂😂

@ehmo8706 5 лет назад

So true. A reference picture can also be used for different things, study different types of face, bodies, composition of the face, shading, anatomy, proportions or to create a new character with our own touch. Awesome message

@sudarshansuresh 4 года назад

Absolutely love your style

@keeganmiller442 5 лет назад

beautiful piece! some other artist might finish when the painting looks close to the reference, but with your style how do you choose a stopping point? Do you have a goal of using as few brush strokes as possible?

@averyartisticraccoon3007 5 лет назад

Keegan Miller I love the concept of how our brains can finish piecing an image together! That’s why I love more free painting styles. I love the painterly look and I don’t like to overwork my stuff. I love this channel for those reasons

@LarrivaArt 5 лет назад

My goal sometimes is just to get the canvas covered. If you look at the last couple of minutes of this, after I covered the whole thing, I don't see significant improvements. I don't go for as few brush strokes as possible as much as the largest brush strokes possible, which sometimes is the same thing.

@averyartisticraccoon3007 5 лет назад

Dariusus uh yea 🤔why

@averyartisticraccoon3007 5 лет назад

Dariusus that’s great! Glad I could help. I love literature and languages Also!.... as writing is my first love/art. I just paint tho, because my writing is very personal and mostly very explicit. Anyway I love to see people have passion in life and always learning/growing so go you!

@africaart 5 лет назад

He is aiming for a 3D effect (and probably doesn't know it), he kept on adding the light/shadow details as opposed just adding colours.

@oliverapopovart8902 5 лет назад

True. It's what I keep saying to my 5th graders. No one is going to go check if that tree you painted is actually next to that house. As long as your image is convincing and engaging, the likeness comes second. Big like from me for this video, and not only for the cute cat alone ;)

@slynxoxo 5 лет назад

I love your use of colour it really evokes emotion

@scroez 4 года назад

As Always I thrill to watch, I love your paintings & the confidence you paint your work. I always learn something new in your paintings, I notice you use one brush, I have a habit of using one brush on most of my work, Yeah I love the music too, I may sign up for a patron account soon. Thanks for your art, man.

@JimiJames 4 года назад

I really like your painting style. I always think of exact likenesses, celebrity or not as parlor tricks. I always like paintings where there is form and figure, as well as expression in strokes. abstract painting bores me. photo realism does too. you've found such a cool balance.

@designwithgreg2924 5 лет назад

Thank you, I thought this was eye-opening to me as I've just been playing around with painting Also, very good song choice for this

@Notmine6381 4 года назад

First time ever - your art has inspired me to actually publicly comment: i was so excited to see you "talking" about what you were doing, as you were doing it. And about AGRESSIVE brushstrokes - you took the words right out of my head - thats what i LOVE about your style. Thank you for allowing us to watch you at work. Such technical skill combined with emotion - you handle the brush like its part of your own hand ! Forgive me for gushing. I probably shoudn't have made this public. - ha!

@oasis408 3 года назад

Thank u I needed to see this ! I've been feeling awful because I couldn't recreate my paintings like the reference photo. This makes me want to re-invent my works now :)

@LunaSmithArt 5 лет назад

Beautiful painting. There are photos for realism and there are paintings for souls. Great interpretation of the photo 💖Stay connected 💖

@shotono3286 4 года назад

I love how this video looks!! The aquarium in the background is lovely and the way everything is placed (palette, reference photo, painting) is very pleasing to the eye :D

@heleenh6307 5 лет назад

Fuck. This is so good, it almost made me tear up.

@paecpc 4 года назад

Chic and stylish! The back ground music goes well with the clip, 😍 love it

@wowno.2269 4 года назад

Actually what's weird is that when I was late for school and I had like an art project(draw a flower or something) I draw rushed it with a green bullpen as I analyse the drawing of my older sister that she did as my reference(which she probably drew from a reference) and I didn't bother to shade or colour it. I passed to my teacher and my classmate said I didn't drew it,that's when I knew that he thinks it's too good of an art for me to draw.(it was very offensive yet feels like I'm complimented.) Edit: I think this was one of the first arts that I've ever drawn when I was a kid.

@majhnicudovitisvet 5 лет назад

I think its important to have an ability to get the exact likeness of anything. Then you can play with it as you like.

@gavingranado2146 4 года назад

This really helped me.Just at the right time.I cant capture likeness at all but it becomes very distinct.I guess that's not very bad after all

@laika4828 4 года назад

"I am not painting for likeness" wow, thank u for this. I am always struggling to draw or paint but it was not that much from what I expected, but then u were here, reference was just an ingredients.

@pendaofmercia7892 3 года назад

I know you don’t see yourself as a teacher but I learn so much from watching you paint and the title makes me feel better about my art hahaha.

@graceelizabeth6863 4 года назад

Thank you thank you thank you!! At my current place, I feel I can draw and paint really well from reference. I can make it look really realistic and just like my reference... but I can’t draw from my imagination. At all. This video shows you using a reference to make your own piece and this is exactly what I need to see and practice myself. I feel it would be the perfect stepping stone from my current point in my art journey to the next. After all if I want to even think about having a career in art, I can’t even think about copying someones photo and selling that. So, once again, thank you, thank you, thank you!

@stendaalcartography3436 5 лет назад

ya we tend to forget that sometimes. reference is just reference!

@CJ-df7gf 4 года назад

I hope I can come to a time where I enjoy making art, where I make art for me

@sonakharel1492 5 лет назад

SAMMEMEEE I CAN FEEL YOU. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO SHARES MY PAIN FIUUIFWJIEIF

@coopart1 5 лет назад

I think in general people want to put Art pieces into a box with a matching label instead of just enjoying the feeling they get from looking. Once you label it you negate it. BTW I love your work. Makes me want to try your pallet.

@tibahh8276 3 года назад

I agree with all of your words.. thx, cause you shared that with us ✨

@luisfernandez-izquierdo502 4 года назад

good video and very interesting concept, there is so much more to painting and drawing than pure likeness.

@user-bu9nb8wr6e 6 месяцев назад

I love this particularly one out of all your great videos. I've just found your channel recently, and it's very inspirational. ❤

@trustinyeshua5966 4 года назад

Brilliant Work!

@relaxinguniverse8266 5 лет назад

I love it, even more than the reference 💖👌😍

@PaulLewey 5 лет назад

I agree, I believe when using a photograph that is not a commission, one has the freedom. I was not trying nor wanting to paint a likeness, the photograph was there for pose not for a portrait and with that, if features did not match up this did not matter, as long as the painting looked good I was satisfied! If a finished painting looked wrong I'd put it a side use it for scrapes or work over it. I believe the less restrictions the more freedom to explore!? When I did have a commission I was never satisfied with my results and a few times, I had to give up with the project. Now I am starting to ignore any references and going straight in with the painting, without any idea of what it would end up as. Freedom is great when painting, allowing the painted canvas to dictate my approach. Thank you for the video and I hope many other painters, sketchers, printers and sculptures agree you view!?

@evarose5850 5 лет назад

Your artwork always inspires me so much and i love watching these process videos, the colour palette you use in this one is just gorgeous

@markahearn1 4 года назад

For me, portrait painting is the ultimate challenge. I am still learning too. If you were striving for a likeness, the value of her skin tones are way too dark. Also her jaws are a little too wide. The rest of the proportions look pretty good. My hats off to you for having the courage to put your work out there for critique. Keep working at it and you will keep getting better.

@jjax5974 5 лет назад

absolutely love your vids dude.

@ayababy5010 5 лет назад

I bless my eyes, i learn, i inspire n i laugh A new fan here u deserve that subscribe

@kymberligrantart 4 года назад

My thoughts too, reference is just that...a reference. Beautiful artwork btw

@kala2k7youtube 5 лет назад

Love the sentiment. Also, you're very talented at painting.

@silk8488 4 года назад

This looks so amazing!! glad it showed up in my recommendations :)

@domymarquez273 4 года назад

Okay, this made cry

@garypecoraro9293 4 года назад

I really like your approach to this painting , the production was magnificent, thanks, please do more this way , especially scripting, love your style, of painting... thanks again👍👍👍 fish are distracting from painting also.great work...

@dianagimenezdoucet1291 Год назад

Of course what you do basically is making a wonderful drawing as a cue! ☺️

@RMHART 4 года назад

This turned out beautiful ❤️

@sethbrown7525 4 года назад

love your work and channel! thanks for sharing. you have great taste in music too.

@poopybum3000 4 года назад

i do hyper realistic paintings so i usually use charcoal transfers to get the most accurate to the photo as i can and i highly recommend it if you are wanting to try super realistic paintings. my profile picture is the first hyper realistic painting I ever did with oils, i really enjoy doing realistic stuff but its always nice to take a break from that and free hand from a reference and make something that's truly your own

@bigvisionatl 4 года назад

I appreciate your work! Your style is doper than dope

@kristypolymath1359 4 года назад

I'm loving the music to this, too :D

@TheDoerf 4 года назад

Amazing video Larriva. Thank you so much for sharing with us. My best wishes John.

@jerryseaton5239 5 лет назад

Nice painting .Not over blended

@NoName-ym5zj 5 лет назад

That's like when i show my parents some of the works i've done and they are like "Cool, but who's this?".

@OldSchoolChinny 5 лет назад

Thank you for the cat, it was lovely it was lovely.

@yafa.5 4 года назад

This video just solved all of my problems in life

@lookcreationsoad7771 4 года назад

cool techniques and I like the end result. I like 👍

@homerrockz 5 лет назад

great painting , I agree with everyone about how it's a reference. I paused it at 9.28 and it looks like the head is at a slight more of an angle vs the painting. Compare the jaw line on the painting vs the reference. Again a wonderful painting great job

@im_fukier1828 4 года назад

i love the way you draw and color and good music in the background too makes it all relaxing to watch you my good sir get a sub and a like

@surality 5 лет назад

Fantastic, fabulous to see some eye balling, look more closely at the negative space is my advice, love it.

@DrAdnan 5 лет назад

Yeah, it looks way better 👏👏

@jebbylawless 2 года назад

I don't think that the cat really loves me.... We're more like casual acquaintances.

@docdoowop 4 года назад

a lot of art wisdom here....

@bio-plasmictoad5311 5 лет назад

I find if you get the distance between parts and the shapes right, you will get the likeness. Then if you want you can change the tones and values to whatever you want. But if you want an exact repusentaon all of that is needed and especially the values.

@justjae4267 5 лет назад

The cat think bubble would have been more accurate if it started out with a tuna can. Then, vomiting on the sofa. Finally the heart.

@banger355tw 4 года назад

Loved this

@claudiaguerra3593 5 лет назад

Super cool! Great message 🔥

@seliann 4 года назад

You made a picture of your paint pallette too

@hamidr11 5 лет назад

Fantastic done nd colors are awesome 👍

@mavicityrelayson2924 4 года назад

I was feeling like crap. Thanks for the cat.

@deborahgallo6730 5 лет назад

Actually, your painting does look like the referent, it is recognizable; however the painting is far more beautiful than the model in the photo. The painting has emotion, the referent does not. It is wonderful. This is just my opinion of course. Cheers from Australia.

@Rudenbehr 4 года назад

Both are beautiful

@MissChanelli 4 года назад

Hi, I love this. I am learning to paint with acrylics, but would also love to learn this kind of style (colourful strokes....similar to Francoise Nielly style). I know you used oil paints, but do you think this is possible with acrylics or do they dry too quickly and dont blend as well? How would you describe your style of art? Would you say it's abstract? Or expressionist using fauvist colours? Also, can you make a video explaining how to do this technique please? Maybe how you decide on what colours to choose for light and shadows etc. I think its amazing and id love to try it

@LarrivaArt 4 года назад

You could probably do something similar in acrylics. They make acrylic retarders that slow dry time so you can work with it longer. I don't care to describe my art style because I have influences from across many centuries. Leave it to the critics and historians. I have a few full length narrated demos on Patreon, but I will keep your suggestion in mind for the future. Thanks!

@MariaSolias 5 лет назад

Amazing as usual!

@giacosmos3739 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for this!

@mikuV24U 4 года назад

This is actually something that I find I struggle with a lot. I have an idea and use myself as a reference. But I’m sticking to the reference way too much and I end up painting what I think I should paint based off of the reference instead of what I feel I should paint when I had the idea initially.