I grew up in a home that always had a Bible (somewhere) but it was nearly never read! When as a teenager I began to study the Bible in depth my family treated me like a "Mental Case"! Even today, if a neighbor drops in and finds me consulting two or more different Bibles for a clear understanding of one or more verses, they are quite obviously uncomfortable and excuses themselves.
When I was a child I had the impression that reading the Bible and praying were shameful activities unless they were done in church on Sundays or Wednesday evenings. Thanks for commenting, Robin!
If you were sinning, entertaining lies and reading all kinds of worldly garbage, they wouldn't be batting an eye but even encouraging you. But, because you strive to you abide by Him rooted in Him i.e. The Holy Scriptures, because you deny yourself, carry your cross and follow Him, then they have all kinds of issues against you. You are on your way to Heaven. They are on their way to HeLL. Like a previous commenter stated: 'you are doing it correctly'! Keep moving forward in Him, comrad !!! Sola Scriptura. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."Jésus-Christ i.e. God i.e. Adonaï{Authorized Holy King James 1611}
Psa 119:46 I will speak of Your testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
All, great bibles! Because of this video, I purchased a Jerusalem Bible and a Lutheran Study Bible for my collection. I love pouring over them for insights and perspectives from other views. Thank you for reviewing these wonderful works!
Thanks for sharing your favorites. My favorite is The St Ignatius Study Bible New Testament (by Curtis Mitch & Scott Hahn) . Waiting for the Old Testament portion to be published!!
Again, this is very helpful! Thank you so much! As a Catholic, I already have the Didache Bible and the NOAB-RSV w/ Apocrypha Exp Ed. Because of this video, I am now looking for the Jerusalem Bible. Thanks!
I would have included the Geneva Bible on this list if I hadn't made the mistake of including it on my Ten Favorite Bibles video three months ago. Thanks for commenting!
An eclectic collection, my friend! The Jerusalem Bible was the first Bible I ever owned, personally, back in 1970. The study notes are deep and extensive, but (in my opinion) spend too much ink on PJED documentary hypothesis in the Pentateuch. However, it converted me, and for that reason I have great fondness for it.
I remember hearing Ted of St. Irenaeus Ministries once say that he uses the Oxford Anotated Bible as his main study bible as well. However, he followed that up by saying something like "and I have spent many long hours gleefully crossing out the notes at the bottom of the page." 😂
+1. I love Ted's take on what makes a good study bible (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-70BRXzoHAdU.html). I also like R. Grant Jones' comment on the New Oxford Annotated: "The notes tend to have a higher critical tone to them ... it's good to know what skeptics think of the scriptures."
Great share! I’m just beginning to venture out into Catholic bibles. So much info to take in. Love it, appreciate your time, knowledge & opinions regarding the different Bibles. ❤️🙏
A great eclectic mix of study bibles, Dr.Jones. We ALL benefit from the inclusive selections of bibles that you present your viewers. Had I known more about the Oxford RSV, I would have gone with that rather than the 5th Edition (the latest in this series) of the New Oxford NRSV which you have reviewed as well.
'Inclusive' ? Hmmm... "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."Jésus-ChrisT i.e. God i.e. Adonaï{Authorized Holy King James 1611}
Wow, your top ten is very close my own, minus the ESV and the MacArthur (only because I don't own either, though I listen to John MacArthur on a regular basis). Its nice to see someone acknowledge the RSV Harper Study Bible. The Orthodox, Jerusalem, and NET are editions I consult regularly. The NOAB RSV is my personal favorite, primarily because of the translation. Other than these, I currently enjoy consulting the Ancient Faith Study Bible and the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible. Cool video, Dr. Jones. Thank you.
I bought the Lutheran Study Bible for my mom, who is a Lutheran, and looked through it a bit before giving it to her. I was pretty impressed by the notes and introductions. They seemed very thoughtful and faithful, albeit obviously from a Lutheran perspective.
I received the Jerusalem Bible from my Mother. I really have enjoyed it, though my copy is not in nearly as good condition as yours :). I did recently purchase the Orthodox Study Bible. I'm trying to broaden my perspective a little bit, and it is quite interesting. Thank you for your reviews.
Great video. I do agree that one of the best ways to understand different perspectives and interpretations of the Biblical text is to read the notes of study Bibles published by different groups. There’s quite a few on your list that I don’t have… Thank you 🙏🏽
The New Oxford Annotated Bible Expanded Edition with the Old Revised Standard Version of the Bible 1977 edition is still pound for pound the best English Bible IMHO. I've been using this Bible since 1986, rebound it when it got worn and hope to use and pass it on to my kids when the time come. PS. I also ordered Schyler RSV and waiting for it patiently.
You say you like to know what the skeptics think, well you don't get much more skeptic than me, I guess: I'm an atheist. But I really enjoy your thoughtful, detailed reviews. As with other ancient texts, I'm interested in the bible. And you make it even more interesting. Thank you.
Fascinating - really enjoy your informative videos on your channel. I have collected a number of study bibles and have seen a few here today you reviewed that I would like to have in the future. I enjoy reading various translations both from a historical perspective and a spiritual perspective. Excellent work you do here thank you.
Thank you for the great video! I think you’d really enjoy the New Testament commentary by Archbishop Averky of the Eastern Orthodox Church. It is published by Holy Trinity Seminary Press and is more of a notes edition that doesn’t include the full New Testament text. It would fulfill your desire of having the Bible and commentary separate while giving an authentic Orthodox explanation of the texts. It comes in 3 volumes with the Gospels in the first volume, the Acts of the Apostles in the second, and the Epistles and Apocalypse in the 3rd volume. These volumes seem to pretty highly regarded in the Orthodox world, as well as the commentaries of Blessed Theophylact. My humble appreciations for the many hours of enjoyment in your videos. 🙏🏼
Agreed on #1. The New Oxford Annotated Bible is my gold standard for study Bibles. I love the combination of font size and column width, and the notes are not excessive, even in the newer editions. (I like the ESV Study Bible, but sometimes, I feel like the annotations are being needlessly verbose.) I also prefer a neutral point of view in the notes, and the NOAB tends to be better at that than the competing academically-inclined study Bibles are, let alone the ones that adopt a particular theological perspective. (The Jerusalem Bible is pretty good at that, too.)
Perhaps the older RSV NOAB was a bit more tame in terms of neutral tone. However, I cannot say that at all about the newer NRSV NOAB. Some of the notes seem outright gleefully petty and maliciously spiteful towards God and the Gospel. For example: Note for Genesis 1:11-13 - Earth is a feminine noun in Heb. The text thus echoes other ancient mythologies and the life cycle in having a *feminine earth bring forth the first life in the universe* (c.f. Job 1.21.) *God is involved only indirectly here* , commanding the earth to put forth. Some of the notes outright come across more as the sneering, sardonic, catty observations of high school mean girls than of scholars: Excerpt from the note for Genesis 2:19-20- *Yet the Lord God here contrasts with the all-powerful deity depicted in ch 1; The Lord God creates the animals in a comical, failed attempt to make a truly corresponding helper for the human.* Note for Mark 7:27- Dogs, sometimes used as a slur in the Hebrew Bible (e.g. 1 Sam 17.43; 24.14); *Jesus exhibits a surprisingly provincial attitude here.* Not to mention the note writers can barely contain their cringe-worthy Radical Feminism: Excerpt from the note on Genesis 2:21-23 - … *so also the connection of men and women is affirmed through the crowning event of creation; the making of the woman from a part of the man*
@@SolitaireZeta I regard those notes as neutral. You spend quite a bit of time on David M. Carr's annotations for Genesis in particular. Carr is a Quaker, but the notes are not pro-Quaker. He is not using them to advance Quaker beliefs or to convince the readers to become Quakers. That's why they're neutral.
@@MAMoreno So blasphemous and irreverent notes from a clearly secular point of view are neutral as long as they don't push for a specific denomination?
This is why I love the original Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha, I found one at a Half Price Books a while back from 1965 and I've been thoroughly pleased with the notes so far!
Did the “Ancient Faith” study Bible almost make the cut? I got one coming because I heard it was a pretty good one. And I like some of the features it has on on it from the church fathers and early heresies.. I wouldn’t mind having acouple of the mess other ones you showed us here also
My main reading/study bible is the Ignatius Catholic RSV - but I have to order bibles for classes regularly. This year I'm using the ESV Student Edition. So far so good - I really like the illustrations (Tabernacle, Solomon's Temple, temple gear, etc). The notes are - interesting.
A couple additional features of the Harper Study Bible include that it was published in RSV, NASB (original) and NRSV. Common to all additions is what I consider the best in-line outlining of the text. Over the years I've found this to be of incredible benefit when teaching the Scriptures.
Thanks for the informative comment, John! I saw the NRSV edition in a used book store recently, and the NASB edition was available at eBay the last time I checked.
I agree with your comment at start.. Single volume commentary over Study Bibles if you are serious about bible study... Here are some of the best single volume Catholic Bible Commentary - A Catholic Commentary on Holy Scripture Haydock Bible Commentary The (New) Jerome Bible Commentary Paulist Biblical Commentary (This new one I have not seen but it it looks good)
Great video! Educational and entertaining-as always. My favorite study Bible is the Reformation Heritage Study Bible. My second would be the NKJV Study Bible by Thomas Nelson. I recently got the Men of Character Study Bible (CSB) in suede/leather by Gene Getz, and I have been surprised by how much I like it. Looking forward to the next video.
There are some excellent study Bibles in your top-ten line up. I think this video could be quite helpful to a person looking for a good study Bible. (I may be partial because I have some that you have featured.) I would love to see a review on the Concordia. I read the whole thing when I was considering which denomination to convert to. I still turn to it when a question or debate arises. It is a wonderful book, as is the Lutheran Study Bible. (And, I say this as a non-Lutheran, as you know.) I never seem to use the notes in my Oxford Study Bible (NRSV - 4th ed.), but I use that Bible for most of my daily reading. If I have a question, I turn to my Orthodox New Testament, Lutheran Bible, or the Matthew Henry commentary to compare perspectives.
Thanks for commenting, Rachel! I hope some find it helpful. I often check the older commentaries that are available at no cost through eSword. Matthew Henry is one of those.
Definitely 👍 plus they have changed alot of scripture in the nrsv. The RSV and NKJV are my favorite. Plus the niv and nirv for those of you just beginning.
Your Top Ten is the same as mine, except for the numbering. I find Johanna Manley's Orthodox commentary on the New Testament, and her commentary on the Psalms and Canticles better than the commentary in the Orthodox Study Bible, but technically its not a study bible. So, that's probably why you channel is my favorite for bible reviews.
Your #1 surprised me! What criteria did you use to determine which study Bibles were your favorite, and how did you evaluate them? Your favorites would be some of mine, also. I collected Bibles for a time and now have a collection of about 130 Bibles, give or take a few, and I never thought of picking out my top 10 study Bibles. I believe I shall do so! I would pick on the note content and quantity, the font of the Bible, the tradition it comes from, the binding, and the cover--my Bibles are mostly leather or pleather. I figure the Bible will last longer with a leather Bible cover. Thanks for sharing!
Nice list. I keep the net, orthodox, and esv large print study bibles always handy. My fourth that I keep on hand is the open Bible comfort print which would be my favorite except the red letter is wack.
Hmm. One reason I chose the ESV over others, including the RSV and NRSV, is because I thought the language was the most elegant. I guess we all see things differently. Still, I have most translations to check each other against, but my main translation, the one I read the most, the one I bring to church and Bible study is the ESV.
No doubt, we're all wired differently. Let me add that I don't positively dislike the ESV. But for some reason I can't lay my finger on, I can't seem to love it.
An unused Bible is a terrible waste. If you have a love of the ESV, then read that one. I gave one to my son who has been reading it ever since he received it. He seems to have changed a lot.
To be honest the ESV is about 90% identical to the RSV. The ESV began as a light revision of the RSV, mostly to change a few of its more "liberal" readings (Isaiah 7:14 being the classic example). Personally I think all of the ESV's changes are improvements (and its my preferred translation overall), but either way it's very close to its RSV parent. The NRSV deviates from the RSV far more often and far more significantly than the ESV does for instance.
@@MusicalMedley2 I am happy to hear about your son, but I don't have an unused Bible. I refer to all of them when I really want to study something. There are many ways to say essentially the same thing in English, but some ways just sink in better, or more accurately, or have the right nuance to enter my brain, my way of thinking, as opposed to yours. That's a great reason to have multiple translations. There's all the more chance that what is being said really registers appropriately in your brain, or your heart. I did give away my ESV Study Bible to someone that only had a paperback New Testament, but I promptly bought a new ESV Study Bible for myself. In fact, it's probably a good idea to have a few extras on hand that you can give away if you are ever confronted with the need.
@@gilbertculloden87 - It's true that the ESV is close to the RSV. I tried to make that point in this video, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hoPkw6pocH4.html .
Interesting #1. I have the RSV2CE and I love it, thought I study and read with Spanish bibles (I'm argentinian). I have to say, the Spanish version of the The Reformation Heritage KJV Study Bible surprise my a lot, I use it a lot with other Study Bibles.
The Reformation Heritage KJV Study Bible was my #11, I think. I do like the notes, but I don't find the KJV typeface appealing. I'd like to have the notes in a separate volume to use alongside a nicely printed KJV. Thanks for commenting!
If you want separate commentaries for Orthodox interpretation I think the Church Fathers are the best option. You can get their commentaries separate and then read the bible and use their commentaries.
Finally I find a mature-Christian video on mature-kind study bibles. Could you, please, do a video about TOB study Bible (Tradution Ecumenique de la Bible)? Do you think it worths?
@@RGrantJones I'm sorry. I could swear that they did an english version of TOB, but maybe I'm wrong. I say this because they did a Portuguese version in my country, Brazil (Tradução Ecumênica da Bíblia - TEB) wich I'm seriously considering to buy. So that's why I asked you. I hope it get translated in America, specially the 2010 version with all the Apocryphal books included. Best wishes! 👍
Are there any study bibles you would recommend for the Eastern Orthodox besides the obvious OSB? Someone that is trying to learn more of the Greek, Church History, General Old Testament narratives and Christological themes - stuff like that? Always look forward to your videos, they are very balanced and gracious. I like the aesthetic of the MacArthur, but I am concerned about the theological bent there - a few people have told me it is quite strong in the text, especially in regards to the Rapture, dispensationalism, etc. Any thoughts on that too?
Regarding a study Bible for the Eastern Orthodox, I don't know of a good alternative to the OSB. MacArthur is definitely a conservative Evangelical (so he downplays Baptism and the Eucharist), and his notes are somewhat Calvinistic. It's true he's a premillennialist (like several early Christian writers), and the notes in his study Bible reflect that perspective. He's also dispensational, but his notes aren't so obviously or strongly dispensational as those in the Scofield Study Bible. He definitely has a high regard for the Holy Scripture.
Great review as always, thank you. Sadly there are many Calvinist study Bibles, I bought the ESV study Bible, but never use it, I prefer to go to my commentaries (David deSilva´s , Keener , Wright on Galatians for example, Dunn, Longenecker, Romano Penna on Romans which is fantastic, not available in English), but I enjoy other study Bibles.
You should check out Vine of David and their Franz Delitzsch Hebrew Gospels. I just picked up the Memorial Edition and their English translation is a study tool in and of itself.
Hello, I just wanted to thank you for your greatly detailed videos on the Word of God. Quick question, could you please provide some of the examples where they refer to the Masoretic text in the OT? Or are they even prevalent? Thank you for your time. God bless!
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For the Orthodox Study Bible, you probably wanted to say that the books it has are not normally found in protestant Bibles since it's Orthodox and in Orthodox Church, we use the Septuagint version (LXX). Nice interesting video :)
Great video, Dr. Jones. Like you, I am not a big fan of study Bibles, so I can see why you chose the editions with fewer annotations as you favorites. One question: What type of plastic covers/jackets are on the NET hardback and the black Jerusalem Bible? They look very useful.
Thanks for the kind comment, Parker! Manaus Books sells those covers directly and through Amazon. They're called Brodart Clear Vinyl Adjustable Book Slip-covers.
@@RGrantJones Thank you! I'll look them up. As an aside, in your opinion, do you think there will ever be another printing of the 1885 RV? I was glad to see Schuyler bringing back the RSV, so I was curious if you think that trend will continue to rarer and older translations.
@@Ambrose_op - No, I doubt it. The RSV was fairly popular in its day, and there are enough older fans willing to shell out $200+ for a copy of a premium edition to make it worth Schuyler's while. But the RV wasn't very popular, especially in America. I don't think the calculus works.
Grant thanks for you video, very helpful indeed. Do you happen to know about "The Expositor's Study Bible"? It's printed by the SonLife Broadcasting Network KJV. It has very good explanations in easy to understand modern English instead of the 1611 Elizabethan English. With these explanations I at times cannot put the Bible down!! thanks in advance
I have a leatherbound OSB that is relatively new, I love the art and is good source of what that Church is about. Right now I am reading the Ruckman Reference Bible and it is very good. Does the Jerusalem Bible you have, have notes from Tolkien? My neighbor said the early version had translation notes from Tolkien where he helped in translating.
I believe Tolkien worked on the translation of Jonah. I don't think he wrote any of the notes, (though I could be wrong). I believe those are from the original French edition.
Just a quick heads-up, the chapter timestamp for the Lutheran Study Bible at 3:41 has a small typo, and says "8, The Lutheran Stuty Bible". Thank you for your reviews!
I used to put the MacArthur Study Bible at the top of my list (it was my first Study Bible), but the Reformation Study Bible has dethroned it for me (as a Reformed Baptist). Still love the MacArthur Study Bible though.
I am just pleased as punch that the NIV Study Bible did not make your list. Pleased because its heavy evangelical leanings make it less appealing to a wide range of readers. However, I'm surprised none of the Ryrie Study Bibles were included. I always thought they had a nice overall quality to them. One comment re the 1966 Jerusalem Bible: while the notes are considered by many Catholic scholars to be preferable to those of the 1985 New JB, but the text of the '66 JB is so dynamic equivalent that I find it untrustworthy.
As an Orthodox Christian I do not appreciate the new study Bible out because of the lack of quality of materials. However, I agree with you on the Septuagint in the OT, and things like that. I just ordered the Schuyler RSV with Apocrypha which has the quality and should last. I love the RSV, and have for many years. Thank you for this review.
What do you think of the Open Bible by Thomas Nelson? Does it qualify - in your opinion - as a study bible or is it a reference bible with a few extra features? I have the NKJV in black imitation leather and, next to the ESV Study Bible, it's one of my absolute favourites. The Topical Index and book outlines are the best I've ever seen.
Thanks so much for this video. I always appreciate them although it took me a while to get around to viewing this one. LOL. I do own the Jerusalem bible and the Didache RSVCE that you mentioned. I really like the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible, New Testament, RSVCE 2nd Edition which I think you reviewed. I am looking forward to their Old Testament study edition . . . some day. I no longer get "Notifications" when new videos are posted. I AM a Subscriber and have clicked on the "bell." I experience this with ALL of my RU-vid subscriptions and even use their Chrome browser!!! Does anyone else have this problem? How can I resolve it?
@@RGrantJones Regarding the RU-vid notifications: I used to get a unique email for each subscription channel each time one of the channels I subscribed to posted a new video. One email for each channel. Then it stopped last year or two I think. And now I'll get ONE email that lists ALL the new videos posted to my subscribed channels. Usually at the end of the day. I don't like this change. How do you get notified of new videos?
@@RGrantJones I just got an email (via gmail) notifying me that you replied. Made a Comment. I used to get gmails when new videos posted! But no longer. I don't understand what you mean "by the bell." I Subscribe and Click on the Bell for dozens of RU-vid Subscriptions. But I no longer get Notifications.
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Hello sir, as we saw a few Lutheran study bibles, I was just wondering whether you would consider yourself a Lutheran and sonewhat related, your thoughts on the Calvinist tulip? God bless
That's a hard question, allan. I've known Anglicans who used the RSV New Oxford Annotated Bible -- but not because its notes are Anglican in character, but simply because of the information it contains. I knew one who used the Harper Collins Study Bible, but warned others against it because of its skeptical tone. Anglicanism is diverse. Evangelical Anglicans with Calvinist sympathies would likely be fine with the Reformation Study Bible. Other evangelical Anglicans might find the ESV Study Bible or the NIV Study Bible acceptable. The more progressive Anglicans will tend toward the NRSV New Oxford Annotated Bible or the Harper Collins Study Bible. I've known of Anglo-Catholics who were happy with Catholic Bibles like the Jerusalem Bible and the Orthodox Study Bible.
@@RGrantJones Thank you for your reply. I have the Orthodox and NRSV. I've been collecting various versions to get a cross section on current ideas, while comparing them to extant church writings, looking at the evolution of belief within the religion. It's interesting to see what denominations kept certain things, while creating entire new ones. I'm ex Church of Christ, and get into debates with my mother all the time. She is still a member and defends their positions rather blindly, so I'm interested in belief and history to refute her. She has a habit of expecting everyone to follow their customs, whether a member or not. ha ha Anyway, I appreciate your answer, and was unaware at how diverse the Anglican position really was. I was under the impression it was simply the middle of a four point grid between Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Luther, and Calvin. I see that is a great oversimplification.
@@allancarmichael835 - The only religious group whose meetings I can recall attending as a child was the Church of Christ (non-instrumental, multiple cups), so I'm somewhat familiar with them. My maternal grandparents were members. Anglicanism is hard to define, and it may have always been that way. In Elizabeth's time, although everyone agreed to the 39 articles (at least in principle), there were conformist members and Puritans, and squabbles over issues like vestments and sports on Sunday. I believe Calvinist understandings of soteriology were common then, and the continental Reformed churches were viewed as sister churches. During the reigns of James I and Charles I, and perhaps a bit earlier, there was a movement toward what came to be known as Arminianism, along with a greater appreciation for beauty in worship. Names like Laud, Cosin, and Lancelot Andrewes (one of the KJV translators) are associated with that movement. Its ecclesiology was less inclusive in that it put more emphasis on the role of the historic bishopric, sometimes viewing episcopacy as essential to the church. Some historians consider that 'beauty of holiness' movement to have been a cause of the English Civil War. After the Commonwealth, Puritanism within the Church of England withered, but there were still evangelicals whose soteriology centered on regeneration and conversion rather than on baptism and communion. Anglo-Catholicism arose in the nineteenth century under the leadership of men like Newman (who eventually became a Roman Catholic saint), Pusey, and Keble. Some Anglo-Catholics I have known affirm all Roman Catholic doctrines except those associated with the papacy. And, of course, there are Anglicans who view their religion primarily as a tool for social change, placing little emphasis on the supernatural aspects of Christianity. The 39 articles are affirmed by the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA), and perhaps by some other groups worldwide. In my experience, most Anglicans hold that they have no binding force. Although 19th century Anglo-Catholics attempted to interpret the articles so as to avoid contradicting their own theological positions, modern Anglo-Catholics tend to feel no need to do so and openly disagree with them.
I've heard of that series and other viewers have recommended it to me. I may at some point acquire a copy of The Navarre Bible: New Testament, Expanded Edition. Thanks for commenting and, as always, I'm looking forward to your next video.
@@RGrantJones I appreciate the kind words about looking forward to my next video. I always enjoy your videos! In case you didn’t know about them, I did a six-part series called “Authority & Continuity” on the Word on Fire Institute RU-vid Channel.
Given that I understand you are a serious scholar of the Bible, I would like to ask something. Along with the septuaginta I began to study the critical edition of the new testament (28 edition). In the Lords prayer (Luke 11.2) all the greek editions of the Bible( or modern greek) they have " γεννηθήτω το θέλημά σου ώς εν ουρανώ και επι γης". I see that is included as a critical reference but I find it somehow disturbing since it is ,in anycase, an eclectic text. A comment by you would be greatly appreciated.
Perhaps it would help if I quoted from Bruce Metzger's textual commentary: "After σου (2) the great majority of witnesses interpolate γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου, ὡς ἐν οὐρανῷ καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς from Mt 6.10. If the Lukan text had originally contained these words, no good reason can be suggested that accounts for their absence from such varied witnesses as P75 B L f1 vg syrc,s arm al." (P75 is an ancient papyrus. B is Vaticanus, a fourth century manuscript. vg stands for the Latin Vulgate. syrc and syrs are two branches of Syriac manuscripts. arm stands for Armenian manuscripts.) Similarly, a note in the NET Bible points out that the omission in found in "weighty manuscripts" and it "cannot be easily explained as arising from the longer reading." In essence, they are arguing those words were included here because copyists tried to make Luke's text look like Matthew's. Had those words been in Luke originally, it's hard to see why they were dropped in the old Greek manuscripts and in the Latin, Syriac, and Armenian textual traditions.
It is famous, Hassan, and I used it back in the 1980s. But I just looked at the larger list I drew up when I was trying to downselect to a top 10, and it didn't make that larger list! Thanks for commenting!
I have an NIV study bible and I never use it. I’m no longer an evangelical Protestant and the notes are way too generic for me. It’s extra historical details are interesting but they’re not that theologically useful so I don’t rate it highly.
I concur that the RSV has a bit of a leg up on the ESV in terms of poetic and literary beauty. Nevertheless I find myself much more comfortable with the ESV because of aspects of the RSV pricking my conscience when using it. Besides the infamous modernist/mainline renderings of some key verses, even greater is the selective usage of archaic language to passive-aggressively attack the deity of Christ as outlined in 3:24 to 8:22 of this video : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-209WujDYZno.html Although my faith would not be damaged by it, at the same time, being aware that the translation was deliberately crafted in such a fashion, personally makes me feel revulsion towards utilizing it.
Thanks for commenting, Macross DYRL! Yes, that revulsion is understandable. For my part, I prefer translations to leave what's ambiguous in the original languages ambiguous in the target language, so I would have preferred it had the RSV used the archaic pronouns throughout or gotten rid of them entirely. But most people still addressed God using 'thee' and 'thou' in 1946, so their halfway approach is understandable. I very much like the way the RSV reads, and I don't have any desire to abandon it because of its questionable choices regarding pronouns or capitalization. In my experience, using multiple translations helps safeguard against the biases of the individual translation teams. I notice that the ESV capitalized the second 'Lord' in Ps 110.1 but left 'holy one' in Ps 16.10 and 'the sun of righteousness' in Mal 4.2 in lowercase letters. Interesting.
@@RGrantJones Aye, I realize it is ultimately an issue of adiaphoric liberty, and is just a personal hang-up of mine. it's a shame, because other than the questionable choices, the RSV is a beautiful translation. Nice catch on the ESV inconsistencies. I wonder if they are just an editorial oversight or what?
Great list. Thanks for sharing......They actually make gender neutral bibles? I thought at least the church would have the back bone not to go that route. So dissapointed.
The NRSV and the 2011 NIV are in modern gender inclusive English, are are some other translations, so you could consider study Bibles with those translations gender inclusive. Thanks for commenting, Luis!
So why learn from so many different bibles that say different things and take away from the deity of Christ and various other doctrinal issues. They’re clearly a money trail to the copyright
The publishers hire workers who use the money they earn to feed and shelter their families, and the workers give a portion of their salaries to their churches. The money diffuses into the local economy, keeping grocers, delivery drivers, mechanics, plumbers, electricians, barbers, teachers, etc., employed. The churches help support the needy and spread the gospel. And what evil deed do these publishers commit, which causes so much good? They print and distribute the word of God in modern English sentences that people read, understand, and believe; men, women, and children hear the gospel, the power of God unto salvation; they believe in their hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead; and they are saved.
Many of the notes and introductions were written by people influenced by higher criticism. I read the notes because I like to know what academics think, but I don't let them irritate me.