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Ceno Quad Studios is a building of 12 floors with 4 studios per floor (Quad means 4) 5 sessions were going on that night in different studios. Deborah Cox, SWV, Mobb Deep, Big with Junior Mafia, and Lil Shawn. Gene is basically giving his opinion of what happened. Pac didn't owe Jimmy any money they both agreed that $7,000 was going to be paid for Pac to do the collabo with Lil Shawn. First Jimmy said he'd pay, then called back and said he didn't have it, then called back and told Pac he' ll write him a check which Pac wanted cash because he didn't want the check bouncing, then Jimmy said he'll have Harrell give him the money. With the constant going back and forth with phone calls Pac got frustrated and mad and cursed Jimmy out. Jimmy didn't like that so to teach Pac a lesson that you're not just going to curse me out like that he set him up to be robbed. Pac fought back and ended up being shot.
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 na dude, Pac was focused on making music. He was actually in Harlem making music while getting those calls from Jimmy. So he felt like Jimmy was distracting him with extortion, Pac was basically trying to tell Jimmy his price and just be done with it. This is all while having court in the next couple days for the allegations of rape. Pac did put a target on his back, im not going to say hes perfect but he didnt bring that beef to himself. It was a set up from the beginning because Pac relied too much on his money from his music.
@QBell79 There's interviews where Pac went into details about all that stuff.Check out his Vibe interviews with Kevin Powell.There was also an audio CD/interview with Sway called "In His Own Words".
Videos like this is why I liked Ceno ,1 he can give his points and make one understand his point of view, like when he said "if they wanted Pac dead, why would they try to render aid to him".. U on a roll bro !!
People gloss over the fact that when biggie was murdered, puff told everyone at bad boy not to talk and be quiet. Then puff sent the authorities to Gene Deal while Gene was at work. They tried to fire Gene and he had arbitration hearings...hiring lawyers etc to keep his job and puff didn't help him after being the cause of his work trying to fire him. That's why Gene is mad
No that’s not why Gene Deal is mad at diddy he came back to work for diddy after all that happened because of Wolf . Gene Deal is upset how he treated a lot of ppl who helped him and the fact puff has lied In interviews about the night Biggie was killed . You need to buy his book he has alot of info in it he hasn’t talked about on camara
Jimmy Henchmen had an artist here in Detroit years ago . Can't say the name but that artist told us that Pac was to get disciplined and it was definitely a set up.
From what I read, Pac didn't name names to the Daily News reporter.He basically referred to his co defendants as a "Hanger on's".He didn't name names until the Vibe interview with Kevin Powell.Even then, Kevin Powell got shook, and decided to change the names of the guys Pac mentioned.Which pissed Pac off.
Kevin Powell said Pac actually did said their names but Haitian Jack found out pulled up on Kevin and force him to edited the names out he had Kevin Powell shook
Big's right hand man even admitted that Big & Puff didn't hold 2Pac down while he was locked up. He said that in the doc where he spoke on the fix that E-40 put on when Big dissed him & then he performed in his city & they were throwing coins up on stage. When he spoke on Pac being locked up he even said they didn't hold him down nowhere close 2 the way they shud have. Pac played an intricate part in Bad Boy getting their name out 2 the masses. Stopping in the middle of his show 2 let Big & Puff come on & rock the stage. Rock the crowd & they couldn't look out when he was locked down? He even said it himself. All I wanna do is take them to where I was when they didn't wanna support me!" He had every right 2 be pissed imo. I look out 4 y'all from day zero & when I'm down & out y'all leave me hanging? Yea I would've definitely felt sum way about that as well. & Puff? He's definitely the reason Big ain't around no more. The #1 reason is u ask me
@@Karceno4Life allow? Bruh!! If I'm trying 2 come up & my man's is helping me out in every way shape & form & then he hits hard times & I'm in a position 2 help HIM?! Shiiiid!! Ain't no such thing as ALLOW!! Feel me bro? I'm doing what I gotta do 2 hold em down. I couldn't have that on my conscience my G!! I just couldn't
Gene deal responded to your video I feel like every man could agree to disagree you wasn't calling Gene a liar you just disagree what some things he said, like I never heard of Tupac owing Jimmy henchman any money
@@llcgfyfzxbgdb you right he was around the situation at the time I'm not sure he was at quad that night but he would know a lot more because he was around puffy that particular time because he was his bodyguard so he would know a lot more because he was in the circle that's why I agree with him the only thing I didn't agree with was Tupac Owing Jimmy henchman any money because I never heard that before so Gene is going to have to explain that a lil more but as for karceno he's just reacting to the video he's not calling him a liar he just doesn't agree with some things he said so basically is this a reaction to the video he seen, but me personally I agree with big gene on this particular topic
Im sure Puff knew something was gonna go down but what could he do at that point in his career. He wasn’t the Puff he is today. Plus Pac was trying to get BIG on Out Da Gutta cuz Puff wasn’t paying BIG so it would make sense Puff would turn his head and act like he didn’t know anything. Pac even said that out his own mouth. But Puff could say anything to Jimmy Henchman at that point. It was street stuff out of his hands
@@Karceno4Life Puffy not knowing is the only part I disagree with Karceno. Biggie didn't come to see Tupac in prison because he felt like he warned Tupac beforehand not to hang around Haitian Jack and nem. Also, because Puff and his camp was cool with Jimmy Henchmen so why get involved when your cool with both camps. (Tupac, Haitian Jack, Jimmy Henchmen). Just stay out of it.
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 when DMX first got in da game they accused him of tryna fill the spot pac left DMX loved pac in LA when DMX saw pac he was surprised pac said waddup 2 him I could go on and on how tf I'm younger knowing more than niggas LMAO
I mean no disrespect, but it's funny how DMX could be a crack head, cheat on his wife, absentee father.I'm not saying he doesn't deserve, but I see a lot of these "DMX vs Tupac" people on the net.If they had that same amount of ammunition on Tupac, they'd dog him out for it.
I've been saying this for a long time puffy knew what was going to go down, they could have visited him in jail they did not do that after everything Tupac did for them getting their name out there when they was nobody's they didn't know who biggie was puffy got fired, and for them to turn their back on Tupac and said that he was lying that he only got shot once and he was acting , so I can feel where Tupac is coming from that he's going to destroy them he couldn't even get a letter from biggie after everything he did for him all they was doing was shouting him out and not seeing him I would be pissed too, however I do not believe Tupac's own Jimmy henchman any money never heard that before
@@Karceno4Life he most likely was aware that it was going to go down but probably not that night because he was pretty close to Jimmy henchman at the time & he knew pac did not like him because even biggie was telling Tupac that puffy was doing him wrong in terms of business and money Tupac said that on this sway interview, and Kurt Burrows the former bad boy president came out and said that they used who shot ya song for promotional gain on 2pac down fall to promote biggie , so even if puffy didn't know, so let's just say that for right now which I believe he did , he played on it to promote Biggie's album because everybody knows Tupac was asking who shot him and as soon as he goes to jail you drop that, and this is what I had a problem with if you're Biggie and you're in that situation you go & see pac that's been holding you down and let him know face to face you had nothing to do with that or knew about it pac didn't see biggie until 96 Soul Train Awards
@@outlaw6 who shot ya was recorded before the shooting and Pac knew it. Pac just felt the timing was wrong because ppl will feel that the song was about him.
@@TheTrut416 I already know it was recorded before the shooting but they use that song for promotional gane Kirk Burrows former Bad Boys president came out and said that they use that song for promotional gane
It wasn't 5 G's Tupac said it himself- it was 7 G's-Also Dude kept saying on the phone He didn't have the cash 2Pac said no money- no song! Jimmy was courting Tupac to get him to be his manager Tupac said no! Plus tupac was messing with that girl that Jimmy had affections for Tupac was told to leave her alone he said no! That's why he said in the article in the daily news about rappers being extorted. Tupac wasn't going for it.
Well Ceno, Gene said Puffy knew that people were coming to see Pac. He told Art that he doesn’t believe Puff knew he would be SHOT, but knew they were coming to press him. That’s what he said before he answered the question.
@@Karceno4Life he just came from studio ,to do the deadly combination verse in harlem .than he went to quad that night ,he told Ron g that Brooklyn cats was on him .everybody knew pac was gonna get handle. East New York dudes was behind that
I cracked this pac was mentioning ppl like Ricky Lee becuz he was the guy in room who never got charged so rickey and henchman set it up. Jack booked the session he tried to get Ricky Lee involved Jack's Jamaican hit man
Iv am not Mistaken Pac was going to Lay a Track down for £15K , I don't believe Pac owed Jimmy Henchman Shit, That's the only Difference in what has Been Said about what Happened
No he didn't because the blueprint was out in 2002 pac got shot in 94 cenos time is off that's a 10 year difference talking about I know people who was there that same night
Ummm. Ever heard of phony kicking it? Do so until u get what u want from them and then bust their heads n flee. Drug n rap game operates the exacts same ways
@@Karceno4Life it could've happened G. We weren't there. According to u.. no story that u know of changed. Could it been that all were told to stick to the script and this one dude saying F that now. These two dudes deserves justice and if one dude is linked to that justice.. bring him in.. due process hin and sort it out from there. That stand makes people nervous.. Someone will tell.
When this happened. People was speaking out about blood sacrifices from since before this. I honestly believe. Puffy and Sug Knights was behind this. Puffy got into the same Car with Pac. But at the last minute got out and went to another Car. You are in the car with one of the biggest rappers going to an after party and you get out the car. To get into another car. To go to the same after party that the car with pac is going. A lot of people are still not connecting the dots. Pac and Biggie was the two popular rappers of the 90’s. Puffy was in Biggie shadows. Mase was in Puffy shadows. Soon as biggie dies. Puff blew up with Mase being his bitch. Pac started speaking out the way Kanye is doing now. Pac spoke about the Illuminati being real, fake Jews, blood rituals, human sacrifices within Hollywood. Not long after he died. Puffy had love for him. But I believe puff sold him out.
you know what ceno im tired of these mf content creators always asking the same dumb ass questions like the quad studios incident i heard these stories like 30 times already how come y'all never talk about the good side of pac like the fliming of juice or digital underground dayz
To answer your question, people love dirt and negativity! Not only is Pac the greatest rapper of all time, but he was a good guy!! He was compassionate about the black people, wanting to see us achieve more
Gene's accounts of what went on at Bad Boy never change!! He does not waver in his speech. Listen to him talk about the day and the night Biggie got killed. He goes into specifics when recounting that night. He is able to recall minute details of events. A person lying can not remember what he says every time he says it!! Gene is telling the truth!!
