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My thoughts on Natlan (Genshin Impact) 

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@Kostte-zp6he
@Kostte-zp6he Месяц назад
thanks man, your perspective helps a lot. people really devided in this. like there are people that say it just fiction, eventhough its a clear missrepresentation. no matter what you say, genshin take inspiration from real culture, its weird most of their character is not look like people from that culture. but on the other side, most people that complain about it are taking it to the extreme that it does not help either. most of them are just calling hoyoverse bad name and not explain what are they complaining. like boycotter in a way is similar to hater, and most people react to hater by not caring about what the hater say. people that can explain the nuance of the situation like you are being buried by both of the side.
@LuizenL
@LuizenL Месяц назад
Yeah, very well put And I totally agree. So much of this conversation has sadly become noise at this point. Which is one of the reasons why I wanted to give my personal perspective. Even if it does get drowned by the noise, I’m glad it was at least able to reach you few. Thank you for listening!
@Koyuki_Yukihime
@Koyuki_Yukihime 22 дня назад
On Mavuika topic , maybe just maybe since we don't know yet , she has the same thing going for her same as Acheron , where her real name is Raiden Bosenmori Mei , Mavuika probably is just one of her name or just a "title" and her real name is Himeko and she might be someone from outside of Natlan too .
@LuizenL
@LuizenL 19 дней назад
Super late reply, but that could be the case. One reason could be that she stole the name from someone else, and she'll eventually get a "real name reveal" like it happened with Raiden Shogun. I guess that could work. But yeah, as you said we'll have to wait and see. Still weird on the dev side to take a name from an existing culture, since ofc people who know it will think of the Maori deity. And there's similar issues with the other characters, but for this specific case I can see it. Especially if the original holder of the "title" is someone more accurately inspired by the deity.
@Nanii_nani
@Nanii_nani 29 дней назад
My take - The reason im disappointed in natlan is the same reason im disappointed with every region, that is the lack of dark skin characters, not accurate representation because no character in genshin will ever accurately represent a real person with their plate sized eyes and anime art style, i dont think any of the character from monstadt are an accurate representation of germans, liyue to chinese, inazuma to japan and so on because if i said "japanese people tend to have pale skin so inazuma correctly represents them" that would mean i narrow down a person's identity to their skin tone which is horroble, that being said, i dont think not having a dark skin character is a huge problem either, i would demand the same thing if there was an exact copy of genshin but their skin tone are reversed, i would want more white skin people in that game full of dark skin characters but at the same time, just like now, i wouldnt think not having white skin peope would be a huge problem either And genshin takes inspiration from IRL and not based on them, because none of the archons look like demons and they are not connected to the ars goeita lore where they took inspiration from, similarly, a shogun is supposed to be a man however genshin decided to make the shogun a female and i dont think thats a problem either as long as they dont say its historically accurate Edit : actually, going back to my first topic, i would want more dwarfs, giants, beasts, etc, all of those fantasy element goodies in this game rather than a human character with x skin colour
@LuizenL
@LuizenL 29 дней назад
That makes me think of how back in Fontaine we had the melusines. I really wish we had an actual melusine-looking playable character instead of what we got with Sigewinne. Although I do like her after her story quest, I would've preferred if one the melusines we encountered during the archon quest became playable. Sadly, this is probably a byproduct of how their character creation process is streamlined (or them simply taking the "safe" path as I mention in the video). That's more of a whole separate issue, but I do understand where you're coming from.
@Kostte-zp6he
@Kostte-zp6he 29 дней назад
@@Nanii_nani its not about accurate representation. lets just see it this way. look at inazuma, where as we can see, the nature of it depict is japan nature, the fashion and music it depict is japanese culture, the story (especialy ayato story quest) really have heavy connection with japanese culture. but a lot of inazuman have dark skin. like you can just labeled it fiction, but doesnt it just shitty thing to do. like the least thing you can do to credit the actual culture you take inspiration of, you know to actually show just a LITTLE gratitude to those people is to make them look how they look in real life. as for raiden thing, genderbent, does not have impact as big as almost complete skin wash on entire culture.
@Nanii_nani
@Nanii_nani 29 дней назад
@@Kostte-zp6he it very much is about accurate representation, the reason why you want dark skin characters in natlan is because africans tend to have a dark skin Even if inazuma characters were predominantly black, i dont think thats a problem, and heres the thing though, just because inazuma characters have pale skin doesnt mean they look like actual japanese, skin colour isnt the only aspect that differentiates race, they all look like anime characters anyways so they could be given any kind of skin colour, red, yellow, blue etc, this goes to show that any person regardless of their skin colour, race, or disability are able to wear a kimiono Raiden genderbending does not have an impact because people dont really care about misrepresentation, they pretend to care about it only when it involves people with dark skin tone, there has been misrepresentation everywhere in this game, archons having demonic names despite not looking like one, liyue clothing being slightly inaccurate, a female shogun, fatui harbingers having italian names instead of russian and it goes on and on, but these things never make it big because people dont really care about misrepresentation
@WarsunGames
@WarsunGames 26 дней назад
Some characters look fine but are colored so poorly you cant enjoy them. Making the hair very bright does no good on the characters.
@LuizenL
@LuizenL 26 дней назад
@@WarsunGames Yeah, there’s definitely something off about the way their color palette is rn that is made apparent when their hair and tattoos light up
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