Some of you are being very dense in the comment section talking about how much money JYP Entertainment made this year because no where in the video did I say JYP is gonna lose money or that their groups aren't gonna sell millions of albums. I said the groups are not gonna be as relevant compared to others in the kpop industry which is exactly what happened this year besides twice and stray kids INTERNTIONALLY. Pretty sure some of you know ur ignoring my main point though and are just trying to take my words out of context. I don't really care though please stay mad. Either way follow me on insta! And yes I did delete some annoying comments, it's my channel I can do what I want instagram.com/planetminjae/
I actually have the opposite opinion. I don't know why, I just have the feeling that JLoud is gonna have a very friendly sound within the korean general public and they are gonna put JYPE back in the game. Actually, during the survival show some of the songs that they performed were songs with 90s/2000s vibes incluiding their original song "Get Loud" and that was before A2K trend. I'm aware not many people is waiting for their debut aside from people who watched the show (which wasn't that much) however I have always believe that when people does not have expectations from you then is your best chance to show everything you can do and I think JLoud is gonna do that. Hopefully they will let Yoonmin produce the music, I find the music that he has done so far very friendly towards everyone so basically that's my prediction for them and they are a JYPE group as well, I know they are gonna do a great job 😊❤️
Aside from JLoud, I think Twice's sub-unit has great chances to perform well just like how Nayeon did it with her solo. I know MiSaMo debuting is South Korea is risky but I think JYPE is gonna taste the waters throught NiziU korean debut, if NiziU is well accepted despite being a full japanese group, then MiSaMo is gonna be well accepted too. Something people has never talked about MiSaMo is the risk of debuting the sub-unit in Japan, people think that debuting in Japan is better because it has no risk however I do feel it has one risk which is the anger of korean onces. K-onces were complaining a lot about Twice giving priority to the japanese onces over the korean ones, particularly when Twice offered 5 dates for their Halloween event in big venues in Japan while the korean one was gonna be in a small one. If MiSaMo debuts in Japan, I'm afraid of k-onces reaction
Talking about NiziU, I wonder what's gonna be the reaction towards their korean debut. The announcement already generated divided opinions but if jype does a really good job then I think NiziU might have a chance to be accepted
In other words, I do agree about your predictions for Itzy, NMIXX and Stray Kids. Itzy has always been very irregular within their music, NMIXX is a experiment that the company is still shaping and they are learning with every comeback, Stray Kids is more focused internationally and will keep growing there. However I do think Twice has a chance throught their sub-unit, at the end of the day they are still the JYPE group that always perform the best, with the right promo their sub-unit can do really well. Finally, JLoud and NiziU both have chances to do well, NiziU's korean debut might be controversial but the company can use that to fuel their potential.
I agree with a lot of your points, though I think that Twice bring less “shiny & new” in Korea is less relevant to their overall success, as they are bigger than ever across the World (I’m in the US, btw). Korea is one small country that is exporting artistry, and like the British Invasion of the 60s, or the New Wave of British Heavy Metal in the early 80s, the groups waned a bit in the UK, but became (And remain) huge across the world; I’m talking about Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Def Leppard, who are all still massively popular, 40 years later. While I’m worried about NMixx surviving, I’d like to point out that Itzy is also very popular here, and abroad, but I agree that they (And Aespa, and GIdle) will have to up their game, as you mentioned.
With Baby Monster debuting, the fanwars gonna be nasty as hell. I hope people will come to realize that IVE, LE SSERAFIM, New Jeans and Baby Monster are just kids who want to pursue their dream peacefully. I hope that fans will stop comparing them but I know that they will not
Not to mention, behind the scenes LOTS of groups are friends even when the fans hate eachother (Exo, BTS, Got7, etc..) to name afew 💀 It’s so toxic & I hate it lol
3/4 kpop stans are teen loners with no real social skills. they feel comforted by kpop and defend their groups as if they're their actual friend groups.. like whenever i see people shit talking certain idols or groups i just assume its a mentally unstable tween and move on.
I don't understand how StayC have faded in the public image so quickly. They had ONE quote-unquote "miss" and the release wasn't even bad (Beautiful Monster might even be my favorite title track from them..) The 4th-gen gg sphere is just SO competitive nowadays. So many talented monster rookies.
stayc got attention from being bep's first gg after he created so many hit songs for other artists, and then their debut song happened to be catchy and public friendly. but they were just a general public, not their own core fan base. it's why building core fan base in early days are important. the first 2-3 years of a groups is important for that. just because a group have a successful year and few hits, it doesn't mean their popularity will last if they don't build the core fan base. it's what lots of company missed. they'd get a good amount of view and chart rank and think "of we'll make it", but no. public will move to another groups when they get interested and forget the previous. meanwhile if a group have a strong core fan base, even if they didn't do well with general public, they'd still earn more money than those who was up in the top charts. and as idol industry is still a business, more money means more success. as cruel as it seems, that's just how it is.
Loona is essentially over, but I'm worried for groups like Billie, Everglow, Purple Kiss, StayC, and Woo!Ah. They all need to do something big very soon to stay relevant and prove themselves as true competitors in the 4th gen. I love all these groups, so I'm hoping they all pull out monster hits.
2023 is going to be crazy for TWICE but maybe not in Korea. TWICE is positioning themselves for a big push in America and if history repeats itself they will see a lot of growth. The world tour is going to be one of the highest grossing tours in girl group history. Since the contract renewal is done the promotion schedule is really going to pick up. Twice is known for coming out of nowhere with a mega hit. There’s no telling what they are going to do next.
Twice already have announced THEY'LL have 4 big schedules which include (MISAMO subunit, twice 2nd English single, TWICE's world tour and 12th mini album)
Yeah, I see Twice following the same path as SNSD. They might not be catching the eye of the general public or charting as high as they once did, but they have an extremely large and loyal fan base and they've already cemented their place and legacy in the industry.
I think Aespa and IDLE are safe tbh. Especially IDLE. They have Soyeon who understand each members strength so they don’t have to worry about having a bad concept or title track to affect their careers. IDLE has been growing and growing, consistently proving themselves, they didn’t just explode in popularity this year. I’d be more worried for some of the rookies/newbies who birthed into popularity this year. They are young and reliant on the company for everything so things could easily go south if the company doesn’t promote them correctly or gives them a bad song. IDLE is self-reliant, they’re safe.
Agree 100% The most important thing is that they've been working and producing music together for 5 years. They know exactly what they want to do and what type of songs they are able to do. They just make awesome music.
Except they are not self relient, they still depend on the company to make everything happen and approve everything. But I agree, Idle is not going anywhere people just love them too much. My only fear is Itzy and it’s all JYPs fault.
I agree 100%. SM is the trendsetter for a reason, and I believe that we have only scratched the surface of what aespa and its concept is capable of. (G)-Idle is a bunch of super talented ladies who are finally getting the recognition that they were meant to get. Minnie and Yuqi have 2 of my most favorite female voices in kpop outside of SM
@@2FullMoons True Soyeon still needs Cubes approval but at this point they can’t really say no when IDLE is their main money maker. I love ITZY but I worry about them too, JYPE is so shit at promoting their groups recently. They don’t know how to brand properly or stick to a concept for them. Even NMIXX are suffering. It’s very sad!
I love ive's music the most, le sserafim's personalities& sp the most and njs concept the most. I can't even choose who I like more atp and the fans are driving me crazy
Literally all these groups have something special and unique to bring to the scene, we have the most diverse era of kpop concepts and music for girl groups and instead of appreciating it, kpop fans are nastier than ever. And all these idols are all CHILDREN for the most part, I can’t believe how cruel these fans that some are literally ABOVE 25 Y/O can be.
Being completely honest, as SOON as yg's new girl group debuts, I'm gonna stay offline💀 I have a feeling their fans will be blinks part 2, & I absolutely have no time for that. I'm not gonna be out here constantly defending my favs w my life, I'mma remove myself from the premises💀🙏🏼
@@NWxoxo I think it's going to be more than that because there's so many competition already ive vs newjean vs lesserafim vs aespa vs itzy and now baby monster too 💀 godd I am so scared
@@letsalllovelein I feel like there will be a bigger fanwar between blinks and baby monsters fans because I can see already a lot of blinks being mad at baby monsters bc they will debut and blackpink is gonna disband, also they are thinking that baby monsters wanna copy blackpink or wanna be blackpink 2.0 like they did scandals about aespa, new jeans, le serrafim etc.
I root for Aespa and Gidle and I don't think they would go down soon. I hope an EXO comabck and Loona 12 member comeback with a new company soon. Thanks for the unbiased content.
Fr and when we said that most popular 4 gen gg this year ive lsm nwj um no gidle ale like the most popular with ive but i hope aespa will gain popularity again
@@maxcaulfield6549 @Max caulfield mmmm let me explain my taste a bit so that u lol be able to see how I see as a non Korean who doesn't know a Korean word. I like Eleven by I've because of the taste of Bollywood but other tracks suck. New jeans have fresh vibes and I like their HB,Cookies and attention as well but recent tracks are Greek to me. And I like Lssrafim's style too. Their Fearless and Antfgle as cool. And I love their members chemistry as well. I love almost all the tracks from Aespa and Gidle and I adore their concepts, members chemistry, sounds and styles. But Hwa and Dumbi Dumbi from Gidle are not my type. And I'm not sure the popularity people are talking about because this is not just art or music but a business industry. If u know what I mean.
@@Fairyphobia it could be considered electro-pop yeah. I haven’t listened to I’ll make you cry yet so I wouldn’t know! But either way I hope they continue to make electro-pop music cause it for sure suits them!
I actually think the group from boys planet will be successful. I believe the reason Kepler is struggling is because they debuted along with tons of other girl groups that just so happened to overshine them. If they debuted when not as many ggs also debuted I think they would be doing better. The new bg though is going to be one of the first boy groups debuting with attention in what’s going to be considered a more open house. As long as they don’t get terrible music I think they’ll be much more successful then Kepler
@@ndeyembengue3260 not nearly as many as there were ggs though. The only ones that are pretty certain will debut as of now is a new Pledis group and possibly a new jyp and SM group but nothing has been really confirmed or talked about much when it comes to them. This new boys planet group with be the first though so that give them an advantage. Boy groups also tend to have stronger loyal fanbases. Girl groups get more casual listeners who keep moving on to the nest best thing. People listened to Kepler when they first debuted but then people just moved on the the next gg. I doubt the same would happen to this bg
I went to this year with an attitude like that and it felt amazing when Stray Kids did that to me! Fast forward 9 months and they are my second most listened to artist from this year :)
OnlyOneOf is the group I started getting into this year; their music is consistently good and they're doing a massive US and LATAM tour in March and April. :^)
I agree with you! There are so much groups debuting that people start shifting their attention from on group to another. So if current groups don't bring anything new to the table they will «fade into the background» as you said
Agree , I started of the year with being addicted to Ive to switching off to Nmixx and now to Le sserafim ( surprised by the fact that New jeans didn’t take me with them since they were trendy as hell to stan ) I have a feeling that Baby Monster will too so I’m kinda not liking how this is is going . Too many groups are debuting at the same time and the thing is all are TALENTED but I just can’t keep up with all of them
personally I can’t see gidle falling off next year since they’ve already had their “flop” year in 2019 with senorita and uh-oh underperforming back to back. gidle has been on a hit streak with rising popularity since lion at the end of 2019 with each release doing better than the last and solidifying them as a group well loved by korea. even before tomboy hwaa was the gg song that year with the most wins (10) and reached #1 on multiple music charts and could’ve easily received many end of year noms if it wasn’t for their scandal. even after the scandal they’re the only group I’ve ever seen come back from a year long scandal hiatus to become arguably THE group of the year in korea. I personally can’t see them falling off when they’ve been consistently growing for the last 3 years, unlike your other example in aespa who had a successful first year and lackluster second
Personally I agree with your statement. plus I have full belief in Soyeon I don’t know why people doubt her capabilities to make good music. But I do see where the creator is coming from because they have to keep toping each come back.
GIDLE would not fall next year because data say the otherwise. GIDLE and NJ are the only 4th gen ggs with more 'distributed' popularity in terms of listeners and album sales. IVE and LSRFM fans concentrated in JP and SEA while they're not that popular in US, Europe and LATAM, While GIDLE and NJ fandom rose in every country by the time i wrote this, both even have more followers in Middle East than any 4th gen ggs. In terms of album sales, current GIDLE album sales are even better than Lesserafim. Let me explain, GIDLE and LSRFM has sold 800K album in Circle chart, but GIDLE sole more normal version (about 700K) than the digipack/jewel version, lsrfm OTOH sold 800K but 400k are digipack version (cheaper one) GIDLE also have more buyer in Europe and America region So, revenue wise, GIDLE > LSRFM So, my prediction is there will be 4 pillar of future 4th gen: GIDLE, NJ, IVE, aespa I don't think LSRFM will be big soon because most of their fans intertwined with NJ fans A.K.A Hybe Stans, so LSRFM more likely would be overshadowed by NJ.
if sm wants aespa to continue pursuing their more futuristic concept, i hope they start exploring all the different sounds that fit perfectly in this settings. cause, in my opinion, girls showed that they're a little stuck but there's so much to explore and i hope they start going for different sounds and songwriting. cause in a cyberpunk, futuristic or sci-fi setting, edm isn't the only main resource to borrow from that fits perfectly. there's reggae, punk, rock, electronic rock, synth pop, electro pop and so much more sounds. the thing of a concept like this, is that you can wild and explore genres in so many exciting ways. so as a huge fan of the girls and their music, i hope they do start exploring and that way, i think they'll keep on growing and growing.
As someone who’s ult is NMIXX i hope their next comeback is more popular with the general public cause their niche sound can become their downfall even though i love it
I thought cool was a hit but thats the only song i like of theirs which is unfortunate because theyre super talented, i think they just need better music
i’m praying they do well.. i really want them to become more popular because they deserve it 🙏🙏 hoping for a good comeback and a rise of popularity in 2023
Wasn't too fond of your Y2K prediction until you said it could revive electro pop and gave Just Dance by Lady Gaga as an example. I would really be all for that in K-pop next year :D
As much as I hate to say it (G)I-DLE felt like a redebut this year after losing Soojin. It pains me to say this cuz I love Soojin but losing a member I think was very good for the group in terms of trajectory… they took a 1 year hiatus due to the Soojin situation and came back as 5 members feeling fresh and new so I personally don’t see them falling off in 2023 as they are in their peak popularity right now.
I mean yes but i think when ppl say new and fresh they mean within the current atmosphere lol. If everyone else is doing modern concepts and someone does something y2K or more old school then yeah that’s new and fresh. And most importantly, unique bc it isn’t the norm or common. It’s not rlly the same. No one saying it hasn’t been done before. It’s just not all that present today. That’s why it’s fresh. The same goes for when groups that usually do more cutesy things go for a more hardcore concept. Hardcore concepts are done all the time but not for this group. So it’s fresh and new for them and is bound to draw attention. I think it’s all about perspective. Esp when y2k was the norm then. It isn’t now
@@sleepytoons2155 I get it since 4th gen Stan's were not their when Y2k was happing during 2gen so it's fresh for them but for older fans it's not nothing new I get it
@@norabeckwith6893 yeah exactly! what’s new to someone else or at one point in time isn’t necessarily new to everyone, but that doesn’t make it any less new to others. Especially when it’s something from one time period brought back into modern times. :D
@@norabeckwith6893I would argue 4th gen groups doing the y2k better bc they got better producers but I also understand ur point nothing beats the original forerunners of it
It’s the first time I’m watching one of the trainee survival shows and it’s only because Hui’s in it. Genuinely hope the group does well. There’s actually not that many minors in the lineup which I was surprised by. There’s also a few vocally strong contestants (besides my boy Hui) who I’ll be trying to vote for. I’m hoping Pentagon doesn’t disband and Hui can return to Pentagon after their military services are almost done, but we’ll see.
I respectfully disagree with JYP falling. Maybe in terms of musicality, sure but it's a bit more unavoidable. But popularity wise, I think they'll be doing fine. Twice already cemented their legacy in SK and is already popular in Japan. Now they're expanding more in worldwide. As for ITZY and SKZ, I think they're just fine. As for NMIXX and XH, they're still a bit new, and they need time to grow. As long as they keep releasing music, I guess popularity wasn't that matter. I mean these days the market is so way more competitive compared to few years ago. With 4th gen groups are on a race of overtaking each other, it's just a nature that older 4th gen might 'fall' a bit. But imo, JYP groups are doing fine in 2023. I don't see them falling that hard.
Agree,how come this owner of channel claim that jype will not be relevant? Just wait and see their cb will sell million especially SKZ and jype group is always invited to almost all award show and year event coz the organizer know who will give the best performance
Astro debuted on 2016 too. Recently, 4 members renewed their contracts. From the remaining 2 members, one is in military so acc to their rules, his contract won't expire till he's discharged. And the other member is still discussing god knows what with the company. Even though I feel like him leaving may give him some sorta chance to show more of his insane talents, I am selfish enough to want them as complete😓
I think Rocky will renew with Fantagio. I just think it’s taking longer with him because it looks like he has taken an interest in acting so it’s taking more time to discuss and come to agreements with that new factor.
Jype had financially a really good year! Also Twice is doing so well right now worldwide. They were the most streamed female group on spotify us, had the most pure sales as a female group in the us this year also. Moreover they also had a very successful tour in 2022. I am pretty sure Twice will get even bigger worldwide in 2023 and that jype will continue to be one of the financially best labels, like they were in 2022. And as you said, skz is also doing well.
being both a fearnot and dive, i'm incredibly saddened by the idea of fanwars. i'm truly worried toxic stans will ruin these groups and their reputation. i'm also a nevie, my and swith, so i really hope (g)-idle, æspa and stayc have a good year. i personally enjoyed the "girls" album, "beautiful monster" & "poppy", but didn't like "nxde" as much, (although i enjoyed the concept quite a lot). just wish they can make it through the industry longer.
My prediction is that (G)-Idle will rise through the roof again. When you see their growth with every comeback over the years and the explosion in popularity in 2022 I see them only going upwards in the upcoming years
i hugely disagree with idles downfall. Idle has always gain huge attraction with their different concepts such as nxdes concept and tomboys pop punk concept. Both were something new and refreshing especially tomboy since it started at the start of the year. Throughout the year ive seen songs follow the pop punk theme and im not noticeably saying they were trying to copy tomboy, we can clearly see how successful tomboy was and many groups were wanting the same thing. Idle has always had a very popular arc throughout their career so them having a downfall right after their most successful year kinda seems almost impossible especially with Soyeon always hinting and working on new albums for idle.
Sm entertainment will dominate 2023 because all of their groups are going to be active and there's going to be a lot of solo albums as well. EXO. Super junior. TVXQ. Super M. Got the Beat. Red velvet. Nct units. Shinee. Aespa. Oh yeah SM Entertainment is going to be fully loaded and a lot more concert tours as well SM taking it to the next level in business
Twice had a crazy successful year, but of course kpop stans constantly move the goalpost with them. when they were popular in korea people said "well they're not popular in the West". now that they're popular in the west and the two largest music industries (USA and Japan) its moved to "well they aren't popular in korea anymore" so i don't really care what kpop stans have to say about twice anymore. they're only gonna continue to grow and ya'll will continue to make up a reason why they aren't lol
The 4th gen scene is so wild and by that I mostly mean the gg competition. Literally every gg debuting kpop stans hyping them up labelling them "the next big thing" a few months the hype dies down, another gg debuts ppl leave the previous one and move for the new one. It has become a never ending cycle atp and so many talented and deserving ggs lost their hype :/
they have already gained a lot of domestic attention as boys planet version has a bit the same system as produce series and got rid of that unfair cell system from girls planet
I AM not worried about (G) I-DLE at all. Its true that they make unique music, but seeing the results they are receiving now we can see that their popularity is growing. Also (G) I-DLE is known to be insanely creative in terms of music and concept wise. I am sure that they will be successful this year. Waiting for their comeback which is comming soon.
Ngl there weren't many fanwars this year, except for the odd nearly all fandoms against skz. I think JYP grew in popularity again. Boys Planet was so iconic
I think aespa and new YG gg will have the longevity in terms of popularity and career and ive could too. The only thing SM and YG needs to do is promote their group well!!!
@@salembejaoui1880 but aespa had such un conventional song savage and so many beat changes but still got Pak. I think its how a group can pull off their song. Even if it's something unique group should be able to pull off their sound or yeah they'll definitely flop
i kinda agree with you but straykids are a prime example of the opposite of what you said because even now they’re charting & breaking records etc and this year they’ve had spotlight a lot for the 4th gen bg especially and popularity/the numbers in the whole industry tbh
@@imaslave4u.. me too, i feel like i’m one of the very few people who enjoyed sneakers more than cheshire, i hope itzy will redeem themselves next year and get back on track again though
I definitely see a fall in Jyp's groups. Although I don't think you should've added Twice to the list. They're basically "seniors" to every group there since they've just renewed their contract and are now the longest lasting group out of Itzy, Nmixx and Stray Kids. Twice have done very well in Korea in the past and their new goal now is to expand in the west which is perfectly fine. Twice will never flop since they've made such an impact in the kpop community!! Twice saved Jyp and I think it's the others groups direction that's dragging the company down. I believe Nmixx and Itzy's direction is going somewhere for sure so there shouldn't be any worry. I believe that the reason Stray kids does so well is because not many bgs debuted this year. I'm not a bg Stan but typically I think a bg will always do best whatever company they come from since they're very praised. Jyp is probably marketing highest off of Stray kids rn. Poor things. (I think Jyp will be fine and I trust them enough to make things better)
and skz could be bigger if only jype wasn't constantly underestimating them while also flaunting their achievements which they have veeery little part in, unlike other companies who actually reward their artists for doing well
@wywrd_mtnt My comment wasn't really about Stray kids, it was more about jyp as a whole. I think that they've done everything they could to support Stray kids since it's their only bg and priority ( like how a single child is treated considering that's their only priority compared to multiple children). As I said, I don't Stan bgs and I'm only a gg Stan but I do know that stray kids is pretty popular like txt. Twice and Stray Kids are the company's biggest money producers since Twice is focusing on the US now and Stray Kids is dominating as a big bg in Korea. Stray kids doesn't have a lot of competition compared to Nmixx and Itzy bc of new debuting ggs. Stray kids is fine and so is Nmixx and Itzy. Jyp may not be as popular anymore due to the fact there's so many groups so the competition IS BIG. I don't think there will be a 4th gen leader for ggs tbh.
@@ronmaker8224 you know damn well that isn't true, especially cause the bside mvs are not for promotion (since they almost never promote them on music shows) and they're from the money that doesn't go into music production for obvious reasons. when it comes to actually marketing them it was crickets before 2022
@@godblessyoursoul2775 thing is they're not treated with priority at all...I could give many examples rn and I will: lack of korean promotions compared to their juniors, much smaller budget not only for debut but also until pretty recently, US stocking issue with their albums when no other jype group has that same issue...either way they were clearly not jype's priority until very recently and even now it's not really that great
im a big ive fan, but I love lesserafim and new jeans too... I find it so annoying when people compare the three groups. They all have very different concepts and theyre all very talented. why cant they just let these groups coexist
"itzy charted worse than before"... cheshire might've been for the arts but sneakers literally peaked top 5 on all kcharts being the highest charting jype group song of 2022 (and it's still in the top 100), checkmate was the first jype gg album to sell 1M copies and just today cheshire joined the 1M club making itzy the 2nd gg in history to have multiple 1M seller albums after blackpink. I think they're doing just fine lmao. Even internationally, checkmate peaked no.8 on bb200 & is the album with the most weeks on billboard's ww album charts for a korean female act, then there's their North America leg of their world tour which had a 100% attendance rate. Lastly, they finished 2022 being the 4th most streamed gg (3rd for kgg) for a 3/4 consecutive year. All this seems impressive to me. Anyways, here's to another great year for itzy!!!
with Baby Monster debuting in some time, the fanwars are going to be downright horrendous, i wouldn't even be surprised if some people went as far as committing actual crimes
I am PRAYING that The group formed through Boys Planet wont flop. Purely because there is a chance for Hwanrok from Withus. Aaaand this is my mandatory call to promote Withus, the amazing lowbudget group that has 3 songs and low budget MVs but The music slaps way too hard.
Actually i personally thought y2k will eventually become a trend first when itzy released wannabe. The producers of the song were very active during 2nd gen k-pop and the bridge felt like sexyback. I could see that with 80s retro sound, i felt 90s hip hop and y2k will also become trend especially bcoz like you mentioned, the fashion from these eras were particularly popular already
skz deserve all their success especially the way they've been constantly sabotaged by jype so here's to hoping 2023 brings even bigger things their way
@@ronmaker8224 lack of promotions until maxident era which was this october, also they're sabotaging their sales in the US by not making the albums available on shelves
@@ronmaker8224 don't tell me what is and isn't sabotage when something that was sold out when it came out wasn't restocked immediately and people went around asking the stores and guess what? there was stock, they were told the distributor told them not to put it on shelves. and magically when tracking for 2022 ended they started showing up in stock again? now idk what's your definition of sabotage but for me this seems weird. why would you keep units in the back and declare the album unlisted and unavailable when you could make money? that happens only when there's another agenda at play, ergo sabotage
i have good hopes that aespa will have a good 2023 actually. SM really screwed them up this past year, with just one comeback with only 4 new songs that had been delayed for months. 2022 was really supposed to be their year to grow as rookies but aespa got sent to 4 music shows and got very little to no promotion. i am still clinging on that tiny piece of hope that SM can really expand on aespa’s unique concept and market them in new ways. i dont want the girls to be sad and say they’re sorry they didnt get to see their fans again.
I’ve been a kpop fan since like 2018-2019, and every year I see the next year predictions. It feels so surreal that 2023, the year I’ve heard my whole life is the one happening now☹️ I’m class of 2023 and I’ll be graduating this year and I’m nervous😭
itzy did not exactly ‘plummet’ this year with their tour that sold out in hours, fastest 4th gen mv to 1 million, vma nomination, breaking their first week sales record twice again, becoming million sellers for the first time and being the fourth most streamed girl group of the year globally.
I don't really see aespa falling off especially in south korea. savage is a song that is still being played in sk + they often go viral. apparently they'll be getting 2 cbs and a japanese debut this year. aespa is currently one of the biggest 4th gen group. I don't really know why people think aespa is going to fell off. is that because girls didn't get a pak? or it wasn't the national anthem of 2022?? it still sold 1.6m albums and ended on top 8 chart among 200+ songs. yep they didn't have 2-3 cbs last year but that doesn't mean they're going to fell off. they're still in the top 5
with y2k i can see old school hiphop making a comeback, we've seen it in the styling and choreography on award shows, now its just a matter of time before groups go there musically. but maybe thats just me projecting because i really want old school khiphop 😭
I was under the impression that “Y2K” was a futuristic concept. As in specifically referring to people’s vision of the future from the point of 1980s and 1990s. I thought “Y2K” was called that because of the computer. But people are just referring to the 2000s as “Y2K”
@@paunamidatta9000 i know.. other groups like ive new jeans leserrafim are doing better and are more popular tho so they are the top 3 aespa could be top 5 tho
For your second point, I predict that Itzy will release a song very 2nd gen inspired next year that will have people say it sounds like something 4minute/2NE1 could've made. So I guess it calls back to what you said. Electro Pop with a lot of these late 2000's trends like heavy voice modification (usually through use of unnecessary strong auto tune).
y2k actually means 2000-20005 (sonically and style wise), the later years 2007-2009 had club music and dance sounds that gave rise to the early 2010s sound. I wouldn't call gaga and kesha y2k.
Honestly I don’t get why people are saying Twice and Itzy’s songs aren’t good anymore… I genuinely think TTT and Cheshire are great, they just didn’t chart well for whatever reason, maybe because the concept wasn’t interesting enough? I also think the timing on those releases was bad, Twice came back during some of the more trendy gg’s releases and Itzy’s Cheshire was just at an awkward time of year with minimal promotion. The only song either of these groups put out that was “bad”/controversial is Sneakers, and that one actually charted the best, so I don’t really see the correlation. I don’t think the song quality is the issue as much as the concept/promotion is
1. I dunno... Aespa I think will GAIN popularity in 2023. SM let them chill in 2022 while the girl group blood bath started and now is almost over - so people are mostly over the hype of a new girl group. 2023 might even be Aespas busiest year. They already have a slot of upcoming content besides their upcoming comeback + colabs. The black mamba arc just ended, it's easy for them to have a concept change or concept evolution because even story wise - it would make sense. They have a solid fan base in Korea, now after promotion - more international audience know of them. They also got into games. All they need is a strong comeback now, which is exactly why SM pushed the comeback to 2023 in order to prepare well. Aespa has the strongest base in Korea so they will be good. 2. My prediction for 2023 is that Billlie will BLOW UP. The Korean public knows of them, and Billlie has good music and very skilled members. I personally think they are the strongest group in 4th gen. If they have a chance at a group survival show like - Queendom... I'm certain of the fact Billlie will gain huge popularity. 3. I think people will get sick and tired of y2k concept cause everyone's gonna do it. That might even cause New Jeans to have a concept change and that kinda will put them in hot water tbh. 4. I see nmixx, Ive and Kep1er struggle. I'm scared that nmixx might even disband - unless they change their concept. Ive is most popular cause of Wonyoung but their music is okay-ish (apart from Love Dive) so I can see people losing interest in Ive the moment they lose interest in Wonyoung... hopefully they won't cause Wonyoung and other members work really hard. 5. SM new boy group will have a concept connected to NCT but they will still be very different in concept, and music style . I think they will be insanely popular, especially Shohei and Eunseok. Seunghan will be the hidden ace - the strongest member (I say this cause SM always hides the talent of ace till debut and Seunghans talent is most hidden for now). Shotaro will be the cutest leader in the history of SM and Sungchan will go into acting, bringing even more popularity to the group.
100% agree w no. 3 because I feel like the y2k concept has been done subtly for a while and now more obviously, personally I don't see I've struggling tho due to the huge popularity of them also I feel like jype wouldn't disband nmixx due to the talent and hardwork of the members altho they might give them a new concept
I agree with number 2, I wish they have a chance with queendom as well. But I disagree that I've popularity is only because of wonyoung, I think they are in the same situation as lesserafim where sakura is as well very popular but still ive's mv has more views because of their music quality, I really liked eleven and love dive
I think u mean eunseok as the hidden gem..we practically got nothing from him..he was only introduced as the "tall and visual member", much like how aespa winter was introduced (and we know how she rocks)..nothing about singing or rapping..we have only seen his dancing so far and its pretty good but not shotaro-good..i had a feeling that he would be a power vocal, like winter..seunghan on the other hands have been leaving easter eggs everywhere on his vocal, so pretty sure he's the lead vocalist
Disagree with the ive is only popular because of wonyoung. The debut of ive had 150 k first week sales. Quite good but in comparison to other gg not so good. For example le serafim had 320k first week sales for their debut. If wonyoung is the reason ive is famous, how can it be that their first week sales for their latest comeback were over 990k. There shouldn't be such a rise when the group is only popular because of one member. Ive is so extremely popular at the moment because people like their music. It wouldn't be wrong to say that wonyoung achieved a level of fame she hadn't had before, because of the success of Ive.
you are correct! technically Y2K literally only refers to the year 2000 but it's understandable that "Y2K style" draws from the years around it. but once the style of the late 2000s comes back we will need a different word for it.
i'm worried 4th gen girl groups will have no actual fans. Everyone is bouncing to the newest group in six seconds and that's it. 3rd gen actually had is STILL HAS hardcore stans that will support them if an album or song flops. If one of these newer groups flop for even a second...it's over for them.
the thing that messes up aespa is their management because their company doesn't really promote them at all, so if SM keeps that shit up, yes I agree aespa will struggle. But they will release their first full album, so if SM promotes the shit out if it, I believe they will rise to the 4th gen top again
- IVE, LE SSERAFIM, & New Jeans are completely different in concept & musical style. Like COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. As such, I can stan all three of them happily with zero comparisons quite safely. If everyone else could do that...well wishful thinking, lol - JYP....well, Stray Kids are self-produced so their talent & chemistry will sustain them. Itzy is still my OG bae 4th gen gg & I bop to all their songs, but their producers need to step up those title tracks if they want to compete with 4th gen. Not really invested in NMixx or Twice but best of luck to them both
I actually agree about the 4th gen group will struggle...back then during aespa's debut, we had stayc billie purple kiss...but rn I feel like people literally forget about those groups.. I can only say that StayC is the only one who survived from all those groups and still manage to bost their popularity...but ever since ive lesserafim new jeans debuted... that's it.. it's a downfall era for them.. especially during beautiful monster era.. I hope in future those girls really become part of the big3 group because they are so freaking talented...
Happy New Year Juice! I hope MCND will do moderately better in 2023. In terms of K-pop in 2023 it will be a unique time seeing so many Girl Groups competing for your attention 😂 (YG as well 😅). I always don’t engage in fan wars but it sucks the people who engage in K-pop see it more than me, I just watch the groups in RU-vid and like see their vlogs, go to twitter and watch fan accounts posting cute pictures of K-pop groups, I don’t engage or follow hate groups. Boy groups from established companies will do fine for the most part. JYP in particular is doing well sales wise but chart topping it’s been nonexistent but the fandom doesn’t seem to care too much. I would like to see more companies let artists write songs and be a part of that process, SKZ have been creating music and their efforts have been paying off well. It’s not guaranteed all artists are capable of writing but they should be allowed to be given a chance more often. Alright that’s it so far thanks for reading 😊. Peace
i always considered stayc middle tier tbh for the sole reason they don’t come from big 4, they were never expected to rival say itzy or aespa, yes they built themselves up until they got their 1st win with stereotype, it’s obvious that beautiful monster didn’t receive as much love as their previous title tracks but then they came with poppy and despite being a japanese title it became really popular, if they can come back with a korean title similar to poppy i think they will manage to regain their popularity, and i think they will do something similar so i’m really not worried about them, maybe they’re not at the very top but they’re successful enough. i’m worried about aespa especially since i personally didn’t enjoy their lastest comeback at all including the very much loved illusion, combine that with the fact that they haven’t made a comeback since they really are fading into the background, they obviously are still successful and popular but i don’t go out of my way to listen to aespa anymore. nmixx was never general public friendly so again i’m not worried about them, i’m sure they have found their audience and dice was even more loved than their debut. stayc will maintain their success, they might not have a major breakthrough but that’s hardly considered a major decline imo
Yeah, it's definitely gonna be a blood bath among gg stans, but I think the debut of hot new groups like Baemon might actually light a fire under some of these struggling 4th gen groups. The oversaturation of groups in general has been tough and yes everyone will struggle, but it's also a way to force everyone out of the covid fog of complacency and really fight for their spots, so I'm guessing 2023 will be the year of nonstop hit after hit and I'm kinda excited for it
I'm inspired to make my own version of predictions so I'll leave it here for anyone interested: 1. First the genre I expect to make a comeback next year is house music and all its diffrent subgenres... I'm basing this prediction on the success of Beyonce's Renaissance, the queen is always ahead of its time a trend setter and kpop loves a good house beat sooo 2. Second I expect another solo debut for twice (precisely dear Jihyo). I also expect the group to comeback stronger with a more refined and well polished album and have another breakthrough moment ... one thing about twice they Can always bounce back and ttt was something laid back intentionally as they were in the middle of a hectic tour and they just wanted to offer their loyal fans something ... 3. I expect the boy planet bg to do 10x better than kepler cause I think (I hope) the company learned from their mistakes and will have a better promotional plan and better music 4. This is more of a hope than an expectation, I wish itzy management team have a clear plan and a specific direction to make these ambitious talented girls follow I hope we see them given the right type of music, they deserve the best. Thank you for this video Minjae, and happy new year ^^
I'm mostly looking towards Twice this year, they're my ults! I do hope for a new solo or a world tour! Twice always does their best for their fans which we appreciate
@@godblessyoursoul2775 I hope so ^^ twice and once are some of the kindest humans I know on this earth you both deserve to be happy and loved so much 💖 may twice and you have the greatest year of your life ☺️ I wish you the happiest day dear (*gentle virtual hug* )😘 (Ah also about the solo debut whom do you expect and what do you want for her if you don't mind sharing with me)
I completely agree with your 2 and 3 opinions of yours. Hope that itzy gets better management tho. If they go in the order of age then it could be jeongyeon (but I don't think since she has just come back from hiatus), and I don't think the maknaes would go solo rn and misamo unit is already planned so it's most prob jihyo if another member makes a solo comeback
I think we're going to see more stories of idols coming forward with regards to their working conditions, especially as Omega X's lawsuit progresses. While I think we're really far off from idols unionizing (as Kevin from The Boyz joked about), we're definitely going to be hearing about companies trying to clamp down on their idols to prevent any mistreatment from getting out. But as you said, tons of idols this past year have taken hiatuses or left the industry due to poor mental health, and I think that no matter what companies do their shit is going to come to light eventually.
Tbh i think the new yg girl group is gonna flop… apparently they’re gonna have a girl crush concept and because of that i don’t think they’ll do too well. Normal girl crush is not popular anymore and unless they do a concept like aespa or le sserafim that is darker and unique (idk what to call it) but not straight up girl crush, i don’t think they will make a big impact, especially with the competition right now (they couldn’t have chose a worst time to debut them omg)
i feel like the boys planet group will be extremely token-stanned by gg fans since the group is supposed to be debuting with a cute concept (the production team is rumored to have worked with april, wjsn, izone and more)
I know a lot of people want Dreamcatcher to disband but that won't be the case for a while 🤭 Disband don't apply to them, all of them renew their contact together 1 year before the end of their contract
skz is exempted with the jyp falling off thing cuz as of this moment, skz are now leading the 4th gen and way above 4th gen. They are breaking records left and right. New fans discovers them and etc. Korean brand titled skz for best male group as the board and professionals agree that skz will lead this year.
jyp groups aren’t even falling off anyways. Twice’s tour did INCREDIBLY well, and Between 1&2 is literally named Between Once and Twice. Like this year was not about charting, it was about doing right by their fans for their last year (they renewed this year). Itzy as wel did fine, sneakers is their second highest charting title track behind dalla dalla & they sold over a million copies (w cheshire also having sold half a million already). Like this idea that jyp ggs are gonna fall off is so dumb 😭
For people who are interested in what is included in the y2k trend, I recommend Mic the Snare’s video on the most influential song of each year from 2000-2009
1. right now their fanwars are crazy and it's bound to become a bloody war, i am afraid that ive will be the one that's going to be most affected by this fanwar, a hate train has already started and sadly the kids seem to be aware of it. 2. i think y2k will become overused like what happened to the retro trend but who cares if it becomes overused or not because WE LOVE GOOD SONGS IN THIS HOUSE! 3. not surprised if more 4th gen groups fall behind with popularity, that's how the industry works anyways. 4. atp i think jyp is catering their groups to fanbases which isn't a bad thing since fanbases will be the ones keeping their artists afloat, their sales are skyrocketing while their chartings are meh. not necessarily a bad thing if you don't care about chartings and is only here for the music (a mindset more people should clearly have lol) 5. i don't think a lot of 2016 groups will survive (well it's not like there's even a lot of them active, imfact hasn't been resurrected, gugudan is dead, mld doesn't give a shit about momoland, pentagon will definitely leave cube), i think the survivor will definitely be astro though since 4/6 members already renewed their contracts. we'll see for victon, wjsn, blackpink, and sf9. 6. i don't really have high hopes for boys planet even performing decently in korea, and i don't have high hopes that they'll be popular with the public UNLESS the rumor of them debuting with a fresh & innocent concept is true (since that will basically be a breath of fresh air from what everyone is doing)
Idk but I don't think GIDLE will loose their popularity, they're just starting they're becoming more and more successful and has more fans rn,and their songsare becoming really popular and Tomboy has the the most streams on spotify for a 4th gen group ,and they're more attention after there comeback
Tomboy isn't the most streamed 4th gen group song on Spotify not even for a 4th gen girl group,but I'd be lying if I said it didn't make noise this year,but can they do what they did with Tomboy again?Time will tell.
Itzy's quality of songs urgently needs to be improved on, or they need to change music producers/songwriters. The last few comebacks have been downright disappointing, especially compared to the great songs they came out with in the first few years after debut. If JYP doesn't fix this, they are definitely going to lose a part of their fanbase to the new 4th Gen GGs who are rising meterorically
4th Gen groups (and beyond) may not struggle, as such, but I think the current scene is designed for impact and not longevity. These kids are being shot out of a cannon, absolutory carpet-bombing the marketplace with hype as THE hottest new thing. But here's the thing - if your debut song racks up 10+ show wins, and you sweep award shows in your first year, exactly where do you go from there? When the vast majority of your identity is that you are the hottest new thing, what happens when the NEXT hottest new thing comes along? "The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long"... and you're going to start seeing that become part of the plan going forward.
I can’t believe it’s gonna be a new year already. I am excited for January Bc this past January we got Kep1er. Yes ik they haven’t been doing great but I will always continue to support them and I actually loved their debut. I hope they are able to get back into the mainstream. Also fan wars I have never got caught up in a fan war before. I plan to try and not end up with one bc I support a lot of groups and I love it when groups collab with each other (same with soloists) I also don’t mind the Y2K sound. I think a lot of them this year were good overall and I am excited to see it continue next year. I also wanna comment on when he talks about how JYP groups will decline. Hopefully this doesn’t happen but from the way he talks about it it sounds inevitable. It’s very disappointing to me and I hate this a lot. ( I also didn’t know Talk that Talk wasn’t really received well in Korea) These are just my thoughts on some of the things he talked about. Again these are just my personal thoughts. I love k-pop and I hope to see it continue grow more.
I respect your opinions about JYP, but I will kindly have to disagree. TWICE, ITZY, and SKZ have very loyal fan base that they won’t flop even if they don’t go viral. XDH and NMIXX are nugu groups, but they can grow just like twice and stray kids who didn’t have huge success or fan base right away when they debuted. They definitely need better promotions too. On the other hand, NiziU will be debuting in Korea, and I bet they’ll be in a running competition with the other girl groups. NiziU has done so well in Japan and have a huge Japanese fan base, so even if they don’t do well in Korea they’ll still have the sales and possibly gain more international fans. Also, JYP is debuting their new boy group from the survival show LOUD along with a Chinese boy group in China. Although, I don’t think the Chinese boy group will be as successful, they both have a lot of potential. One thing for sure is that JYP entertainment needs to give their groups better songs and/or produce better music. For JYP groups, they’ve always done better when they stick to a certain concept or create a new wave in music. Hopefully that happens for JYP group this year. I think they have a higher possibility of doing better this year than last year actually.
@@joe-fk5ud I’m sorry if you’re offended by the term is used to describe NMIXX current situation. I tried to use a term that would describe both XDH and NMIXX on similar situations. Although NMIXX is not entirely nugu, many people don’t know all of NMIXX’s members and their music/concept. For me personally, groups can still have fans and popularity, but if people’s interest in them is low and they’re not really seen or considered in the scene, then they’re more on the nugu side for me. Rookies would’ve been a better term to use, but when I commented this I didn’t consider them rookies anymore as they had have won awards, and are no longer eligible to be considered for rookie of the year (this year at the end of 2023) since they were nominated this year (the award shows in 2022). I hope this clarifies some things.
My prediction,jype will going strong this 2023,especially in album sales,Twice and itzy will sold million again and for SKZ their album sales will skyrocketing again, NMIXX also will doing good,so anyone who predicted Jype will fall on this 2023 had to take back your prediction
2023 will probably be boy groups as currently girl groups are getting popularity which is amazing but if we think about how popularity doesn’t get you the wins on music shows (sometimes) and as well how many fans was jumping each girl group it’s not gonna up float them as much while boy groups who have their fandom continuously to grow it will help them a lot to gain more fans along with popularity towards them BUT JUST A THOUGHTTTT
Fearnots is once a peaceful fandom in fearless era but since the fandom grows in antifragile era, some of them keep on picking fights with Dives, it's sad to see on twitter. 😥 I hope the reasonable, sane and non toxic fans of Le ssearfim and Ive will be the same throughout their career and keep the toxic fans of both group on their own business which hating other groups.
y2k is technically between the years of 1997 to 2004 and it describes the cyber and futuristic sound music had in response to the change in century. it was basically a prediction of what music was going to sound like in the new millennium and then the trend continued until 2004. now Y2K has changed meaning a little with music and fashion but i hope if the trend continues we see more of the cyber part of Y2K
I thought twice talk that talk went viral I saw it everywhere. Also hope Aespa keeps eating. Nct Dream has been rising I hope 2023 is their year with finally being the main focus
don't worry nct dream have been considered top-tier boy group since 2021 lol....their album sales and popularity in korea are immense. they literally just won (another) Daesang two days ago
Pretty reasonable predictions, I'd say. As long as Le Sserafim and New Jeans are okay, then I'm okay. Jebaited with that thumbnail, though. Eunchae leaving LS would be soul crushing, don't even joke bout that :D
i wonder if any nct members will choose to not re-sign. theres literally so many of them you know? and i feel like sm really has been working them all so hard since 2020 like does mark ever sleep?? i hope none of them do because i LOVE all of nct but i would understand if any of them left.
Sm should start treating them fairly with screen time in mb's and line distribution. Taeil is obviously dissatisfied with 2 baddies screen time and lines. They should make it up for him in their repack this year. If they keep doing that to him possibly that he will not renew after his enlistment. I have seen many times the dissatisfaction in his eyes with how sm treated them differently.
I think New Jeans gives the most Y2K (in their debut era, music, outfits) then I saw lots of groups start to wear Y2K outfits (esp Mama stage). I love Y2K concept.
I feel like the only thing that might prevent the massive brewing war between BlackPink and BaeMon fans is if we get to see the two groups interact and form relationships like how BTS got to do with TXT and maybe even help them with their music whether that be just sitting in on their recording sessions or even assisting with lyrics (if they're allowed to). But I feel like that might not happen because like many, I also expect BlackPink to be quiet this year except for fashion events and modeling opportunities, meaning they most likely won't ever be in the same places to interact. So all in all, I'm worried for the health of the two fanbases. And also, SOMEONE GIVE LUCAS HIS CAREER BACK.
just want to say thank you for all your hard work in 2022!! your videos have been such a staple to my year and i've loved following the kpop scene along with you and the rest of your subscribers. i hope 2023 is good to you :)
A lot of the 4th gen groups who people, myself included, thought would be "the leaders" are already struggling, some of them have unfortunately lost the wide gp popularity and are only dependant on their own niche fandoms now, big fandoms but still only the fandoms
@@emi-ts1ko No definitly not, I don't think SKZ could be considered a group who had/has wide gp popularity, they're doing beyond amazing but that particular aspect was never their strongest. I was more reffering to groups like ITZY, STAYC, AB6IX, maybe even aespa, groups who started strong or at one point were the public sweethearts and gained a lot of attention outside their fandom but seem to be loosing the public's favor.
I feel like bunnies and fimmies kinda are gonna get along well cz they are frm the same label and they both have many cute moments... but the amount of toxicity in the 4th gen fandoms IS SO FKIN INSANE.
For the jyp one I think straykids will stay strong bc 2022 was really their best year yet, twice lost some popularity in Korea but I think they are going to thrive overseas this year, I can’t even say anything for itzy bc I really believe their on a downward spiral rn. They dropped loco which was like their peak. Then came sneakers which was an actul hot mess. Then Cheshire came which I will say I really like but it just doesn’t have that itzy wow factor yk? , nmixx started out rough bc o.o wasnt liked that much at all and dice still has that beat drop and change up a lot of people don’t like so their just not perceived well rn.
I stan IVE but I appreciate all the other groups’ music and hope that other kpop fans would celebrate the music itself and see how all these groups make it more beautiful in their own respective styles. 🤞🤙
hopefully people understand that new jeans, ive, le sserafim, and baby monster, nmixx that they are all kids who just want to achieve the dreams they have. Y’all better not bash these amazing talented girls and drag them down in any fan wars but I got no hopes on that as we still see that between red velvet, twice, and blackpink
