My Video Started a Healer Strike in Final Fantasy XIV 

*YoshiP when seeing all this ‘outrage’* “….I knew we shouldn’t have invited that mofo to the media tour”

Yoshi P in perfect English "Who invited this man to Media Tour?"

As one of the healers that wont be in strike I be enjoying my less that 1 second queus

People don't seem to realize that you also don't technically need a Tank if you have a Healer. DPS can survive tankbusters and small groups of mobs with healer support. You also don't need DPS if you don't mind everything taking 3 times as long. Better yet, the people getting upset about this don't technically need anything since they can just stop playing the game and let the already instant healer queues become even more instant.

Excellent removal of the healer role my liege

Problem with the healer class as a whole is that they're a guarantee. Nothing more. A guarantee that has the took to help the party out when the statu quo is broken, AKA when shit hits the fan. That has two effects : For the healer player, it means that the job is fucking boring when everything goes well, because your job is to salvage shit when things don't go well. For the other players, it means that it's fucking infuriating when shit hits the fan and the player who's job is entirely dedicated to help you in this situation is eating crayons and can't help you out.

I can say that healers are still critically important considering the tanks I run into in duty finder

Its really hard to balance around the fact that healers swing between really really easy if your teammates are good and ass-clenchingly difficult if they aren't. You can run a dungeon with no healer and then turn around and have to drag a group kicking and screaming to the finish line the very next instance, depending on how your luck goes.

I play healer very frequently during dungeons, and sometimes I end up with a warrior who doesn't know you can do this, and when they almost die I think to myself "What the hell, now I have to do my job"

not only can you do dungeons without a healer, you can also do it without a tank... i literally have a video on my channel of a no tank expert roulette from stormblood, its not something new... dungeons aren't meant to be hard, they are story progression pieces

No healers in the queue? oh no guess i'll just. use the trust system specifically made to counteract this sort of issue.

Probably won't even notice the "healer strike". It might seem like everyone is talking about it on youtube or the forums or twitter or whatever, but probably 90% of the playerbase doesn't even engage with any social content outside of the game other than looking up specific info and guides, and they'll never know about it.

My liege, I think you should try to play the entirety of Dawntrail without any healers. I think this would make extremely hilarious content, sire.

1:42 "Anybody can do it" Xenos, buddy, I don't think you understand how dumb some people in Duty Finder are.

I feel that this ties in to what youve said before about the lack of midcore content. With Alliance Raids being toned down, Normal Raids being basically the same difficulty as MSQ trials, and hilariously loose level sync at capstone level content, there is no place for midcore players at the moment. Savage and Ultimate healers may be okay with how things are, the quadripalegic colorblind 85 year olds who seem to pop up with alarming regularity on the forums can spam their one button while PLD and WAR heal the parties for them, but midcore players have...Glare spam. I agree that Stormblood was the best content in terms of overall difficulty. 4.0 Shinryu remains the peak of MSQ difficulty for me, and while people whined, it was never nerfed, and people got better. We need fail conditions in casual content again. Soft enrages like old Sohr Kai and Shinryu. Give crits back to adds in dungeons. Amaurot had enemies that had more complex abilities than mindless autoattacks, why did those never come back? Stuff like Tower of Zot should be the *standard* for high-level MSQ content, not an outlier.

I'd say healer is the most interesting role to play when no one knows what they are doing but as soon as you're not running with sprouts it gets dull pretty quickly. I also can't see what the controversy is about. Give me a RDM in the group and I can do any dungeon (more or less) without a tank as well. It's not that healers are bad it's just that dungeons are easy if you know what to do.

I love how Endwalker is the expansion where people get what they ask for. And then they realize what they want is bad. Man, I miss Stormblood.

I play healer, I don't get why someone would be butthurt because of this, shit's hilarious xD

Some one in shout chat asked for DPS to run expert. Warrior Samurai Ninja Black Mage, Isle of Hamm cleared in just under 10 minutes. And I'd do it again.

You don't queue in Dawntrail because you're on a strike, I won't queue because I haven't even reached the expansion yet. We are not the same.

sch/sge main here this wasn't new, it was just the straw that broke the camel's back for some. I enjoy warrior for the heals and it's my fav dungeon tank for that reason, but at the same time, playing healer in casual content is boring af: your rotation doesn't exist, your heals are often not needed, etc. Meanwhile, lots of healers go into savage and suddenly find they don't understand how their job works coz u didn't need to learn it beforehand. Looking back at hw: u had cleric stance, 4 dots, 2 pets with different abilities (and they could die),...now u have 1 dot, 1 main cast, 1 invulerable pet,... Healing only gets fun in savage/ult coz only then u actually use your full kit but at the very least, I think jobs should be fun to play in more than just a very small part of the game, and it's been going down every expansion (and before anyone brings this argument up: I cleared all ults on sch and I'll probably end up maining a heal next expansion as well)

This sentiment has existed in people's hearts and minds for a long time. The video is just highlighting how unchallenging the easier content of this game has become. And I don't get people saying, "Oh, but it's been happening for a long time, why are people complaining now?" Well, everyone has their limits. Usually, a new expansion means new and exciting stuff to do, and when healers realize they're going to be spamming their one DPS button for another entire expansion, it's the last straw for some people. "Oh, but you should just do hardcore content then." No, the game NEEDS a middle ground. Right now, only the extreme options exist, and people in the middle (which is A LOT of people) are feeling more and more demotivated as time goes on. I will still main healer in Dawntrail, but I'm really happy that this subject is getting more attention because the number of times I've almost fallen asleep while doing my roulettes is the main reason I've been away from the game in the last couple of months.

I mean ppl comin from ESO.. we were runnin no healer dungeons even achievemnt runs(no death speed runs, hard mode) like 6-7 years ago...

Every Healer's main rotation is "Spam one single button and watch a 30s DoT to keep it up." But yeah, we're the ones who asked not to deal with the obnoxious Bullshit that is Cleric Stance, the peak of Healer complexity.

I just want healer to feel more engaging. Be it having more engaging DPS buttons, or more incoming damage so you actually want to heal. My biggest problem is that both sides are a bit boring for their own reason and I would really like either part to be improved in some matter. I usually main healer but I will be playing one of the 2 new jobs for DT's content, hoping to come back to an improved healing class later.

Im overwhelmed enough ;_; pls don't make things harder thanks. People already die on me all the time and i give my best to heal them

Since this healer strike started, ive been getting amazing healers in dungeons and trials. I hope that they keep striking

i've heard nothing about this in game lool, but you can do any dungeon in the game with any party composition. All tanks, all healers, all DPS, mix and match, it all works for story content. pathetic forum andys

For me, as a healer main, the role has been miserable for a while now. It comes down to casting 1 button and applying a dot every once a while, combine that with running expert roulettes with the same 2 dungeons that can be done with your eyes closed, it's just boring and I don't even get to use a fraction of my kit. I just want damage intake to be higher and couple of extra DPS spells. I WANT to sacrifice DPS for healing, I play healers because I like healing! Of course you will have downtime, which is where the extra DPS spells can atleast provide my brain with some stimulation other than glare spam.

The entire thing is blown out of proportion so much. 1) There is a complete disregard for the fact that dungeons are supposed to be the least difficult multiplayer content of the game, especially leveling dungeons. They are built with the idea of having 4 mouth breathers grouped together and still being able to clear in a somewhat acceptable fashion. From a dev perspective, the worst thing that can happen is to have dungeon partys frequently start arguing and disbanding, it would be a complete desaster and disgruntle a whole lot of players if that were to happen. There is literally no room for the complaints of raiders here, this is not your content. 2) Striking on dungeons is completely pointless because nobody will even take note. You don't hurt dps, tanks, or even the game's role economy with that move since anyone and everyone can always take the duty support route, if people don't feel like spending 30+ min in a queue to wait for a healer there is already a better option baked into the game right now. And since DT is an expansion that adds 2 dps jobs that was already going to be the better choice for dungeons anyway. 3) If you really wanted to commit to a somewhat relevant strike, strike on savage release, strike on ultimate release. Tear the world first races to shreds if you must, delay them for weeks and months, that would send out a message. But you won't do that, no, even if you're not part of the race you're still part of the machine. That is after all where your fun lies as a healer, right? There is no way you'd strike on that. Well here's it: if you only strike on the things that don't matter then you can't hope to see results. If you want to see results then you must invest first, that is the core idea of a strike. And if you're not willing to make that sacrifice then there is no point to a strike in the first place.

“I’ll give you a recent example of a dungeon that was too hard: the burn” Yeah, that dungeon that came out almost six years ago. Recent.

Friendly reminder you can just run a dungeon with trusts, so you don't even need healers. LoL

As a WHM main, my problem isn't the fact that the DPS rotation is boring or we need a MCH worth of oGCD attacks to keep up. My main issue is that nothing really hurts in easier content, like dungeons or trials. It wouldn't kill the game to make a dungeon boss do a raidwide and we take 2/3th of our health in damage. Now that we get more healing skills and stronger skills for that matter, we rarely have to use our full kit. Most dungeons I can run with just medica 2 and an assize (which is mainly for damage honestly). My lilies I drop on myself during movement to procc a blood lily (which is still only a glare worth of damage but 'OMG I can move now..'). I would like to see more damage on raidwides and what not and maybe make it so that glare can get a procc for a different skill to make it lowkey more interesting. To put it in perspective, week 3 / 4 of a new raid tier should be the 'BiS damage', give more doom mechs / poison debuffs and make the healer actually heal again.

kinda wished everyone ignored this forum post because lets be honest no one will notice a lack of healers.

"If you want to attack, just play DPS" Well, I play healer to heal ... and I have NOTHING to heal so how does this work ?

people taking the official forums seriously makes me laugh, that place has always been a containment zone for the "YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB" types

So healers either want to heal, or dps for more than a DoT and a single spam spell. Either more healing opportunities or more dps options.

Healers acting like they have pull while my boy Graha Tia and trust friends exist 😂

I've also completed dungeons without a tank as healer, we just gotta pace ourselves and quite often where finishing the dungeon before a replacement tank has a chance to replace the one who DCed.

TBF I've cleared pretorium on warrior, with no healer. I don't even play warrior... I've also cleared the lunar subterainne, tanking on sage, with a party of all healers. I main whitemage. I'm not striking because why would I not play the job that I like, just because I'm not always needed?

As one of the non healers I will be enjoying the extra DPS in my 3 DPS 1 WAR parties

My only issue as a healer is the 1 button spam I've been doing for the past 10 years. It is so mind numbingly boring. Give us some combo actions.

These healers must've forgot "Dark Arts + Dark Price + Abyssal Drain" during Heavensward XD

All modern political movements are dumb, baseless, and biased, but to think that you would see a that in a game like XIV. /smh The reason why XIV is successful is not listening to the loud American minority who rant on forums. If someone doesn't want to play healer anymore? Good for them, its a game you can change jobs on the same character. Everyone knows Healer is the designated job for that person you forced into playing the game with you that probably sucks at the game and stays because they feel important. Making Healer less braindead means XIV loses a chunk of players, mostly females too. (The same group that is striking. Oh by the Twelve.) And like others have put it, a strike only works if said group is necessary. Also, the majority of Healer mains don't care because aforementioned reason. Yoshida will only care if Healer mains drop significantly to the point it actually affects queue because he runs a business, not a mom and pop shop built on feelings. His biggest fear is shareholders and JP players who can affect them, so catering to American minority is a high risk move. On another note, I never played Healer in SB because playing SCH in HW Savage content was grueling. Not to mention accuracy was a thing back then. DPS was shit but DPS checks were so tight it was crucial. Not to mention there was little to no spare oGCDs and fairy was manual or gimp mode. There was absolutely no room for error. Not to mention Healers get gear last so it never got easy. I hated that it felt like everything lied on my shoulders but I also get no reward. Officially released numbers at the time for A4 clear, after a month of its release, was 0. A3 was 292. Compared that to the 200,000 players who cleared normal A3, A4, each. Different game but on increasing healer difficulty to back then: "You think you do, but you don't".

While I think the healer strike is dumb, I do want a more interesting dps rotation. Spamming broil over and over is hella dull. I’d welcome a combo action to broil & miasma 2 coming back (and similar things for other healers) just so we have other things to press when we aren’t healing.

Unpopular opinion- ya'll are lazy healers. I mained healer for most of my playtime in ff14 (since the World of Darkness patch in ARR). I've done savage in every expansion as healer. I have recently changed it up to dps. This is what I see in casual content: Healers not paying attention to basic shit such as raid wides. I have slowly died to unavoidable raid wides popping every self healing cd I can and not eating any avoidable damage. They don't do anything until you die. Tanks dying in dungeons for no reason other than healer spamming dps and not paying attention. Your job is to PREVENT DEATH. Ya'll's healing strategy is to wait for the person to die and then res. How many of ya'll healed on an expansion release? When people aren't geared up or know what they're doing? When you queue up solo you get people who are CASUAL players! They aren't geared up. They aren't avoiding every aoe or doing every mechanic. They are flailing and confused, understandably, but constantly eating damage that would otherwise be avoidable. But maybe ya'll don't notice...cause you aren't paying attention. And you don't have to anymore either. The game doesn't punish you enough in casual content when people die. I'm pretty sure the dungeon/alliance raid/etc would go by faster if nobody died over your stupid healer dps and the actual dpsers were alive to deal damage. But everyone thinks that they need to dps and that's what's important. Then when people die cause you're zoning out pressing your dps buttons nothing bad happens anyway. In a lot of dungeons if someone dies you can still finish the dungeon or finish the boss/trash pull. In harder content you can't afford for people to die. So why should you pay attention enough to heal if there's no consequence for the death? That's why The Vault got nerfed. That's why Orbonne got nerfed. That's why The Burn got nerfed. You REALLY needed to be paying attention or EVERYONE WAS DEAD. Queue, "Back in my day..." Back in the day of dungeon running if the tank died that was it, gg, everyone instantly was killed by the boss or mob pack unless the healer was incredibly experienced. Most healers would panic and then everyone died with a walk of shame that would follow or people straight up leaving. Back in the day ressing meant you had no mp at all anymore so even a dps dying was punishing. Eventually you would run out of mp and then everyone would die cause you couldn't keep them alive anymore. You couldn't even AFFORD to use your dps abilities because you didn't have the mana anymore. Over time they have made it less punishing in casual content to the point you can sit there and spam your dps buttons until people die, you res them, and still have enough mp to keep going without skipping a beat...So yeah, why should you care? You are putting in the bare minimum and that's what you asked for. In my personal opinion and observation casual players were pressured to play like the raiders did. It was an acquired skill that had to be learned in order to dps and heal at the same time. And when the casuals couldn't do it, well, that means it's too hard!! And people dying cause I wasn't paying attention and forgot to turn off my cleric stance, that means healing is too hard!! It's not cause I'm bad!! Yes, dps from the healers is NECESSARY in savages and such. You will not make the dps checks, especially when progging and no new gear yet. But raiders will literally do ANYTHING to squeeze out more dps. Even if it means meleeing as a fucking summoner. YES THAT WAS A THING and if I recall they had to nerf it because, huh... Summoner was never built with the intention of being played as a melee. Healers aren't picked for what heals the best, but for what provides the most damage to the raid. Because that's what's efficient for content harder than casual. That's what people who are concerned with the most optimal meta comps care about. But it was NEVER NECESSARY for a healer to dps in CASUAL content. It in fact, still isn't necessary. Because that's not its primary function. But casual healers were told they were straight up BAD and even GRIEFING if they didn't dps in casual content because that made the dungeon go slower for no reason and was a waste of their time- how dare they! Maybe ya'll weren't there or don't remember, but there was a time where it was huge debate whether healers should be expected to dps or not. Some were playing healer because they just wanted to heal and didn't feel like it was their job to dps. Some healers liked doing both. Some thought if you couldn't do both you just shouldn't heal at all cause that means you're just bad at your job. Everyone forgetting, especially the casual audience, that at the time it was only necessary and expected for raiders to do this, NOT the casuals. But as we all know, casual players always try to do what's "optimal" and "meta" even when it doesn't matter for the content they're doing and they can't even pull it off properly because they aren't skilled enough. When a lot of casuals attempted this gameplay they couldn't do both and people would die, which would then result in wipes because there were actually pretty severe consequences back then for people dying in casual content. Healers would get reported and/or kicked for being "bad". But, here we are! Now in casual content there is no stance dancing, healer dps is easy, and they can dps to their heart's content! They don't have to get yelled at for not dpsing or feel bad for dpsing and people dying and then causing a wipe! Everyone wins? Sorry for the long post and brief ff14 history there, but I felt that it was incredibly relevant and no one EVER talks about it. Maybe this isn't THE reason for all the changes they've made to healers over the years, but I know for a fact that it definitely had an influence on a lot of the dps changes to healers. Healers are being balanced based off of how much damage they provide so they're all relevant instead of who has the best healing tools. And now that the casual content is so easy that healers are bored, all you can do now is stand there and press your one button...Fun. This is what ya'll asked for.

23:40 That's because most JP players level all jobs and are willing to flex more than NA players. I've found most NA players are 1 trick ponies

This is a non issue. Gaming media sources and others say FFXIV "fans" go on "healer strike". It's not FFXIV fans, it's just a small small percentage of people that think being a shit head is gonna take off and be a thing.

The hilarious thing is that tanks are even less relevant than healers. I've literally cleared dungeons with my friend tanking as Reaper, while my other friend switched his tank stance off, and it's not even a challenge. DPS are the least relevant of all, because literally all content without an enrage timer (and most content WITH one) can be cleared with just tanks and healers. As for healers being "too easy", sure, their "damage rotation" is, because the rest of their responsiblities are bull shit. As someone that's cleared every Savage tier, I'd much rather "master" a 25 second opener and then do nothing for 2 minutes, than have to heal through shit like Harrowing Hell. But sure, add a damage rotation to healers, then add a tank stance too, I suppose, while they're already the only role that has to actually watch their mana, conserve their CDs and react to what's happening, instead of "herpa-derp press oGCD when available". These guys are on crack. xD

Can Blizzard improve WoW please so those idiots dont come over and bring their Wowbrain brainrot because this is what this stinks of.

As someone whos played WoW since 2004 and FF14 since 1.0. The kind of feedback these players give, will ruin the game just like people did with WoW. Healer strike is the dumbest thing, funny. but not the kind of people you want giving feedback.

I main healer and I like how they all play right now, I don't want to have to think about performing a dps rotation while splitting my attention between my party and the boss.

You Know.. as a healer main I have got to say that a "Good" Healer should contribute a good deal to DPS and I have no problem healing for a tank that can pretty much take care of business with an occasional support.

I tanked Reaper without a Tank. I mean I had a healer but it’s the same situation. You can tank a dungeon as a DPS with healer and. No actual tank. Just as a tank can run all DPS with no healer. I do not understand why he’s getting crap for this when it’s literally not hard to Tank as a DPS or All DPS a dungeon or ever 1 Tank 3 DPS a dungeon. We been doing this since fucking HW so for all the people who wanna bitch about something WE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS they either need to get better or unistall. Simple. Also love you xeems

If this was any other studio, they'd see this small group complaining and remove all of warriors self-healing 😂

This was possible as far back as HW with all summoner raids in BCOB (back when they could heal and Titan Egi was a decent tank). That was a pretty novel concept! However that was then and this is now. Don't need a healer? Then we're not playing it. Enjoy your 1 hour long dps queue.

Redo of Healer??? 👀

my problem w/ ff14 is that the combat feels more like a synchronized dance that you just have to memorize rather than actual (exciting) combat. I spent alot of time playing Lost Ark because I love the combat so much, but I think ff14 players really take for granted just how valuable it is that yoship and the square enix devs for this game AVOID being greedy and abusing their playerbase. they ACTIVELY try to make the game better, they'll move release dates around so ppl can play other games, they genuinely love the game and the players. That is so rare nowadays. that is not to say that things can't get better. I'd love to see the combat system NOT be tab-targetted gcd combat, but that would be such a fundamental overhaul of the entire game that I doubt they'll do it. they can rework classes to be smoother and more fun, but yeah. ff14 has is INCREDIBLE and people don't realize that so much.

"You can already do this" Coming from someone who plays with a group of people who at first didn't believe me, and then didn't believe me when I told them just how incredibly easy it is to run no-healer in ShB/EW dungeons, I think there was a lot of people that either didn't know about this or just denied it. It makes sense that, now that you've basically put it in the limelight as to how ridiculously easy it is to just get rid of healers, a lot of healer players are frustrated. Also fwiw it's piss easy to do this with PLD too. Even doable with DRK, GNB is the only one that sometimes can be a bit annoying. Worst case scenario though is that you just don't w2w it.

The funniest thing about this is that your casual players will always need healers and the worst players will need more than healers can even give. The only people that can clear regular content with no healers are those that are good at the game, with the best players being able to clear Savage and Ultimates with no healers after they've memorized the fight. Which means everybody needs what healers currently offer lol. The ONLY thing I'd argue for is less tank sustain. There's no reason WAR should be able to do what it can. The only self healing WAR should have is Thrill of Battle. No tanks should have party-wide heals. DRK can get bloodwhetting, make it vampire-themed. PLD shouldn't heal on spellcast, and I dunno about GNB; despite being a tank main I have never unlocked it.

Let's be honest, this whole "strike" is peak basement dweller-twitter rant nonsense. It won't do anything because the only people that actually do it and aren't just blowing smoke are less than a fraction of a fraction of the playerbase. Regardless of when it happens it won't have an impact either - do it now before the expansion and you're not going to impact as many people because of how many are taking a break before the new content drops while others are still working through older content because of breaks they already took or are new to the game and are "catching up". Do it at launch of Dawntrail and it'll also have no impact because of all the people that come back that don't care about the drama that pops up in the forums or on social media from people that often complain and yet never actually do the roles in question half the time and just want to join a mob because they're bored/lonely. In conclusion, when you say "recent example" you should maybe consider ACTUAL recent content not a dungeon from the end of post-Stormblood content that was released 5ish years ago. How is anyone supposed to take an example seriously when it's not remotely useful as a comparison tool? EDIT: To add, cleric stance is only "good" if you're either a very practiced healer or an endgame raider. For the majority of the playerbase needing to ping back and forth between damage and healing modes while babysitting people that don't pay attention, are learning a fight, or just want to be a nuisance would be an absolute nightmare of a headache. I guarantee if we actually brought the stance dancing back the outcry about an actual lack of healers because so many stop doing it out of frustration would be insane.

im not taking part in the healer strike and i do plan to play healer but i think the point is that like this can even happen. obviously nobody wants nerfs to like warrior but i think healers want to actually have to heal more lol that’s my take on it. at least the parts that make sense(some people are actually flying off the handle) but yeah i get it

15:00 there is a happy medium here. The community will never be able to accurately target it and give feedback about it because it's really hard to pinpoint per-person, but there is a genuine happy medium where the game is compelling and has a lot to it but is not actively destroying the game with it's difficulty. I think we are fairly close to that medium, but have overstepped in some ways slightly. Basically, exactly what the devs said. It's why I was so happy to hear their comments on it, it feels like they know to not overreact back to gordias but also know that continuing to make the game easier from here would be a problem too.

I find the idea that having a lot of OGCD heals makes healing braindead, a little weird. Sorry, but is hard casting cure more often actually more engaging than weaving your heals between GCDs? It certainly isn't more APM, and idk, doesn't really seem harder either. For Sage, the whole point of the kit is that you're supposed to manage those other resources so that you can get full use out of Kardia along with your DPS. "How much can I afford to not heal" is just how healers optimize in this game, and I'm okay with that.

Im not healer and im also not in this strike but some of their point are fair, healers are so boring in normal contents and outside of prog because everything is planned out, and the homogenization is also a good point, every healers have a single target heal, a party wide heal, a party wide mits

It'd be cool if this MMORPG had any RPG elements in it

You are mistaken on one point; it's not because of the video of a dungeon being cleared with 1 War and 3 DPS. Although this annoys some players, it has existed since Shadowbringers. The issue is that the developers have simply ignored every thread. (and Yoshi-p said if you want more engaging content go play in ultimate). There has been one major thread for each expansion since Stormblood, and it became really apparent starting with Shadowbringers. Some healer players want less homogenization and a more engaging rotation-why should they be ignored? As for the dungeons, if the mobs do zero damage and the bosses also do zero damage, making healers unengaging, it is entirely the developers' fault for making the MSQ content totally brainless and unengaging. So yes, if a Tank is capable of providing group regen, a powerful shield, and being self-sufficient, it's normal that it bothers some players in casual content. Although it's not a major balance issue because it doesn't exist in savage/ultimate content. A game based on the Tank/DPS/Heal Trinity, no matter how easy the content is, should be engaging for every role. Even if it's not specifically the Warrior that's the problem in this case, but rather a global balancing issue that doesn't make all roles engaging in casual content and with a total lack of difficulty in that same content, no one can deny that the dungeons are mechanically bland and just visuals. The game will never be difficult even in casual content-that's pure copium thinking that. Then people will complain that it's too hard, and some dungeons will get nerfed, like The Burn in Stormblood, which was a completely unnecessary nerf. The challenge is not to make the dungeons difficult but to make them more engaging for all roles, and also to make the trash mobs more than just moving trash bins.

Didn't some tank mains try to do this back in Stormblood and get laughed at by the whole community?

Mostly just an Ego thing, the attitude, and loudness also increase your undesirability - Cheers

You can't strike if you're an easily replacable workforce. Hate to say this but... No one is going to notice this is happening, Which is good. Cause it's a non issue.

I spent time in the Healer Strike Discord (yes there's a Discord for them) and apparently it came down to, they want stuff to be in the good old days when stuff crit or Healer Stance. Stuff the community said that they didn't want anymore, but now they want back for some reason. Their overall sentiment felt like the video made by Lynx a few months ago

Sprout WHM main here. I'm an introvert suffering from "Heal-xiety". Despite my mental and social obstacles, nothing makes me FEEL MORE ALIVE than playing Healer! This Healer Strike thingy seems so crazy to me hehe. I started FFXIV a month after Endwalker dropped, after SquareEnix released the lockout for brand new players. I went through ARR dungeons traditionally (queuing up with real players), but I completed HW and StB dungeons exclusively with the Duty Support NPCs. I will most likely complete SB, EW, and DT dungeons with Duty Support/Trusts as well. As for MSQ Trials, Alliance Raids, and anything else in Roulettes that forces you to play with real people, my fight or flight response goes into overdrive! Even after doing the Crystal Tower Alliance Raids many times, I still have my panic attack moments haha. I'm sorta jealous of all the other Healer mains that are bored/unsatisfied playing Healer jobs in FFXIV. I'm still finding it challenging, engaging, and most of all - FUN! Maybe one day I'll be "good enough" at playing a WHM to be bored in FFXIV too? Hopefully not! I'm looking forward to learning how to heal in Extreme/Savage/Ultimate content in the distant future.

"We have to understand the reason healers are the way they are is because of us" Who is this us? Not me, I don't remember wanting this stuff trimmed. So how do I, the midcore player who wants healing to not be mind-numbingly boring, not get the flak when these strange changes are made? And let's be real for a bit, this is partly on the devs not pushing back against silly ideas or complaints, too. And they've been moving every job towards homogenization, simplifying everything way too much. At this point I would love more frequent damage buttons to press, or combo actions. Not more Glare spam and "every 2-3 minutes you can press a dps button, while you wait for that you don't need to heal much". Like, it just isn't very fun and engaging and I just want it to be.

I'll be playing as a healer on next expansion, and I just think all of this is just funny, man. Some people cleared UCOB without tanks, let's just have some fun. I love some gameplay freedom, and I really hope we'll see some more variety to how content can be cleared. Dungeon difficulty is not really something the devs focus on anyway

"FFXIV healer strike" Sounds like the best time to start leveling a healer.

Dungeons is something I do after work with my mind turned off, if I needed to focus on shit I’ll probably just run the latest extreme or savage until I’m capped

The backlash against the healer complaints is kinda silly because I would imagine everyone agrees that spamming 1 button for 80% of your gcds, even in savage, is really freaking boring right? This has been the primary complaint since ShB. The incoming damage isn't there to not just use gcds for DPS most of the time and they're afraid to increase it because it scares people and using DPS gcds in the form of one button is completely mind-numbing. WHM is the only healer that ever should have been like that if anything, no idea why they turned every healer into that.

I don't see how this is a "healers are neglected" issue, if anything it's a "Warriors are fucking insane" issue lmao Though I'd say it's a dungeon design issue. Damage in dungeons on anything other than the tank, is almost always because of a mistake, so if dps and healers are playing well, there just isn't much to heal. I feel like there needs to be more punishing unavoidable damage to give healers something to do other than spam their one damage button

For every warrior that can solo heal the dungeons there are 10 that don't even use cds same thing goes for healers and dpses. The only time healing is boring is when things goes right but that happens when the content is obsolete or u are in a static, if u play pf u are playing praying ur group doesn't suck too much. The content is the thing that become boring over time not ur job and it happens for every game, some people tolerate it more some less.

Do dungeons need to be as hard as criterion to require a healer? There has to be a middle ground. In dungeons it feels like this problem isn't unique to healer. You don't "need" a dps or tank either. Clear it with 4 healers. Dps and tank strike when?

"I play as a DPS if I want something different and exciting" "JP player says healers are not exiting and here is why that is okay!" lmao biggest brained JP player

Personally, don't know the issue... However, having read through the issues, and knowing what I know of MMOs and FFXIV? You kind of are PROVING their concerns? 'Doing this on warrior isn't a big deal' You realize the biggest argument against the strike is, "You are taking a video done by one of the BEST players out of context?" Like it is not a typical thing, that YOU are amazing at being a tank, etc... so, it isn't something typical... But, your reply is that Warriors do this already and that anyone and everyone can do it - so, you aren't the reason. The strike isn't because the NEW expansion is doing XYZ. It is that the game has been progressing in that direction, and DT is just MORE of it. So, your video HERE is purely proof of their issues and concerns - healers are not needed, all other types ARE needed. You are literally saying exactly what their concerns are, and why they are striking.

im a healer main and my stance is "idc" why do i not care that warriors are just so op and can sustain themselves without a healer? Cause for me it means more room for damage, i can finally spam my 1 rotation and put a regen from time to time and not stress at all. I hate having to stress "aah is the tank hp more than 70%? aah are the dps in good health? aah do i have a lot of mp left? aah do i have swiftcast ready just in case?" I can just let the war do what he do best. Taking damage and provide little to no effort, just doing my holy or Stone 6 and placing a regen. Plus baldman is a seasoned player, he did pretty hard duties that requires coordination and mastery of the job being played. You can't be mad at anyone because he know how to play warrior.

Healers are only fun in Savage/Ultimate. All other content is a boring 11111111111 snooze fest, unless you roll a tank who doesn't know what to do or a braindead DPS. The long windows of time, when you just spam ONE skill over and over and over again is just lazy design. I like how most vocal people about this aren't healers. We want OUR gameplay to be better, not YOURS to be worse.

AST main since 5.1 here! I like your videos and i usually don't comment on any videos but i'd like to clarify the meaning of this strike because alot of misinformations has been spreading around. I don't think your mediatour video specifically triggered healers. the healers being bored or not feeling needed in content issue has been around since I started playing. I never really felt this issue when I started, especially since AST is/was so different from other healers as well. but for having played the others, i started feeling the same too. especially in casual content. we are just being very loud right now because as we could see from the media tour build (which yes could change, but i don't think it's going to change drastically), healers are still gonna feel the same. especially since they're giving alot of heal and mitigation utilities for alot of job and the only different healer to me (AST) is going to get major changes, changes that are not inherently bad because i think utility cards are neat but they could be better than "your solo healing spells kit on cards.". this could be totally fine if the damage received in ALL content will be increased but we've been saying that for 2 expansions now and i don't think it will happen in DT. which is why to me the most reasonable change we could ask for is not nerf or take away the utilities from the other jobs but instead give the healers more DPS buttons to press and optimize. all we got was a 2m follow-up, which is nice. it's a good start. but they also gave this to every other jobs. i think 2-3 more buttons that we could optimize and is different across all 4 healers would be nice. we don't need a whole DPS rotation because it wouldn't be reasonable for high-end content like savages and ultimates. before someone asks, i cleared all of the savages and ultimates since i started as well as doing p10s w1 without tank LB3 ♡

Well, I am not playing rn, but last time I was, every time there was a WAR in my party I only had to use ocasional oGCDs and spam damage cuz these guys have it (healing) covered. Also, I don't understand why drama? It's just damn roulette, tanks/party would still need healing in Ex/Savage. I personally like the idea of tank being such a "Force of Nature".

Is it just me or was this exact same argument used like 2 years ago? It was another person who was basically a msq andy who never touched hard content is demanding that a class be changed to their standards.

This isn't Anything new even in the past few Years. When Rogue/Ninja came out, I and my FC ran from lv15 to 30 on all Rogues. That was back in ARR. People bitching and crying about Healer status in the game need to stop eating Glue. Or Eat more and leave the Ecosystem.

Solution is to give healers more complex DPS rotations, and support abilities that increase the group's damage output. In FF7, if I get good, I don't need heals. Aerith can still blow shit up though. Healers need better buttons to hit when not healing.

I've always preferred FFXI's combat. It's slower, but far more strategic. I don't like the fight design in XIV, it's a snore fest after you've memorized it. I don't personally find memorizing a script all that fun. Would much prefer there be some sort of compromise and they take what works for both games and combine them. I think having just a handful of mechanics, and the boss uses them somewhat randomly. Back when there was TP the boss could just have the same kind of thing and it's mechanics use a certain amount depending on which ability they use. You're still memorizing boss abilities, but each time you fight it, it will be slightly different. I prefer way more changes, but I think that alone would be enough to make the fights significantly better.

As someone who mains healer (during expansion launches) - yes. Please strike. Get me the QUICKEST queues for the story mode. But also it is kind of ridiculous that healers are so unnecessary. Bosses should do more damage off players' oGCD timers so there's a point to hard cast heals, or even cast them at all on some fights; and bloodwhetting should maybe be slightly nerfed, or have a healing/target cap. And yes I mostly stick to dungeons and extremes. Clearing a savage, while not particularly difficult, and ultimates, are usually extremely time consuming content that I cannot get too invested into, so the content I CAN more freely do is boring and dull. And yes, I know they can't make these changes to old fights or tweak the jobs around those level ranges, because in some cases old fights will no longer function or work, as they were designed to work around very specific parameters and cooldowns and blah blah blah. But, they can make these changes going forward into the 90's, 100's and beyond.

As a healer I love my class. play WHM and SCH right now. don't have sage and astrologian.

I feel like people are angry that Xeno did the No Healer dungeon run AT the Media Tour. Where the developers were present. I guess is as if the developer were seeing Xeno doing this run but turning a blind eye.

hey, thanks. faster queues for me. not sure why people are whining about not having to heal a tank. i come from wow m+ and as a healer, you're happy when you don't have to babysit the tank and only heal the dps/yourself when absolutely necessary. this is great, and honestly, every tank should just self-sustain, especially in worthless, non-challenging content like dungeons in ff14.

Playing as a healer should be fun in anything, not just ex savage and ultimate. I shouldn’t be falling asleep healing a normal dungeon or raid. I shouldn’t be pressing one single button 130+ times in any piece of content at all. It’s fucking boring. If I have to do some of the hardest stuff in the game to have fun as a healer then healers are badly designed and people have been complaining about this for five years now

If the dev teams gives folks what they want by adding extreme/savage mechanics in casual content (e.i. counting to 4, knowing your colors, high raid damage), they're gonna whine and complain. It's lose-lose. I hope folks get walled next expansion by the first trial. I really do. 😂

I'm not joining the strike, but complaints about healer design being 1 button braindead turret is very valid. If they wanna keep us with current (DT) design give us cleric stance back so that we can have some actual risky min-max to play with for fun in easy content. On topic "If you wanna attack, play DPS" is super funny statement for someone whom in their post wrote he plays savage, I'm guessing he is not upholding that rule of his in the savage groups he's joining. Unless he joins savage 4 months post release and everyone sweats to carry his 2k dps butt to not enrage. Giving healers more giga powerful healing tools does not make them more fun to play. In fact during last savage tier prog we were sitting on our healing sheet with so many healing tools unspent that we just placed stuff like lilybell or macrocosmos in a random spot just to make healing sheet appear "filled", when in fact it was 60-70% OvH.

The problem is... I dont want healers to be easy. I want atleast simple dps rotation like one for disc priests in wow. Healers in FFXIV are overloaded with healing spells. Even in ultimate, we dont need that much heals. Even savage bosses have a few mechanics those required you to heal the party. If someone missteps the usual mechanic on savage its neither a raise or wipe. The other 90% of your time you feel bored, couse you keep spaming broil and refreshing bio refresh. At least, they could make all healers alike sage in terms of damaging spells. Not inentical of course.

I'm a 20 year MMORPG Healer and let me tell you it's about how you choose to play the game. I enjoy Sage so much because as a healer I get to participate in the DPS and it's fun and refreshing instead of just constantly healing. You can do certain content without healers in many MMORPG games and that's okay and even funny :). Healers are still very much needed for the content that (to me) matters most, endgame content. While it is possible to do dungeons with no healer as a certain class, I promise you healers will always be needed for the content they were designed around. The focus while making healer cooldowns and abilities in general was not dungeons I promise you. Healers are designed around the hardest of content that requires a separate class to focus on keeping the team alive. Any other content is 2nd thought and healers are tweaked to be balanced in that content and in raids and such. This healer strike is ridiculous and I'd wager the majority of healers in it are those that are casual dungeon runners and trial explorers(nothing wrong with it, just their choice of how to play the game and find what they enjoy), not Ultima content or savage content healers. They laugh when they hear about this I'm sure. To each their own and have fun in the way that you please, but don't cause a complete healer overhaul just because one tank class has outstanding sustain abilities, if anything, take his sustain abilities down a notch and leave the healers be.

Let me emphasize as a Healer main: Healing is _fundamentally_ boring af. You only feel alive when something bad happens. That's how bad it is at midcore content. Hell even at hardcore you literally just playing a script with healmaps and all that. We only have one, _ONE_ button to spam over and over and over. We desperately want to use our kits but most of the time we don't have to. It's always been like that and now it felt like the thing got so stale that we just went screw it. Strike cope whatever, that's healing in FFXIV.