I Interviewed the Healers Going on Strike in FFXIV Dawntrail 

I love that you corrected the point about dps. Healers have been required to dps since ARR. If you aren't dpsing as a healer, you are not playing the job correctly.

"Striking since shadowbringer" Wouldn't it be more like just a change of role at this point ?

The healer that doesn't do savage complaining about lack of job complexity is pretty funny to me lol.

It’s nice Xeno listened to them. Arthas just speaks over his in his interview

Honestly the way some of these boss fights are designed in DT …no way a healer can complain or be bored…All these fights require heal checks

If you could turn off the subscriber sounds during interviews, it'd really be appreciated. Not trying to be rude or anything, and not sure if it goes on the entire time, but in the beginning, to me atleast, it's really distracting when the guests are speaking

Xeno used to play Scholar too. “Scholar Xeems”, was it?😂 Even Xeno is on strike, he just doesn’t know it.

I had a guy running Conjurer in the lv93 dungeon my first time through. He insisted he wasn't griefing and it was okay because I was on WAR. The DPS sat down at the start and I followed suit until we kicked him right at the 5min mark. While it's true I would've been fine, it's a matter of principle and people need to get over themselves. If you're that mad either play a different role or gtfo, because actively griefing your party will not change anything

I felt like the dungeons in DT have been challenging enough. If you have even one DPS who just doesn't get mechanics after a few times and another who dies once per boss, you can stay healer-busy.

Ngl it feels like theres more of a tank strike when every roulette content needed a tank fill during the past 4 days 😂

As a Healer, whenever I have a good tank I'm basically that one guy singing payphone instead of stressing. Though a part of me crave violence and want more tools to kill my enemies faster.

The casual guy truly is casual. Yeh obviously youre not gonna use most of your kit in dungeons and alliance. Literally just do savage / criterion 😊

Good interview/discussion. I enjoyed listening to it. As someone just coming back to the game after a couple years' break, I don't have much of an opinion on the current state, but I always enjoy the theory-crafting. My personal theory is that healers are one part chaos gremlins, and enjoy randomness and things not going to plan, or a plan that's a bit unpredictable. And their list of favorite encounters seems to agree with that. Which also means that the best place to be a healer is either progressing or in the most casual content where people don't know what they're doing. It should also mean that Astro leaning into randomness with cards should also be a favorite, but SE never has gotten that card system quite right (and we the community optimize the fun out of it pretty fast too). Not that I think I could do any better. I suspect that if they focused on making the healers more fun to play solo then it would also fix a lot of the high level issues. That and leaning into some classes being simpler and some more difficult, but I agree with Xeno that since everyone has favorite classes just for aesthetics, that's not really likely to happen.

Abrassive Healer main here I’ve done all content from RP,Housing,Casual,Savage, and Ultimates. Quick FYI Healers damage output is about 8% This healer strike is just bullshit. The people interviewed don’t even play all of the content. About 79% of everything they were projecting are skill issues and that’s okay! You can become amazing at your class if it’s a skill issue if you care to actually learn and play your job. You’re the heart beat of a party. Play your job and do it with grace and humility. It just sounded like they are getting burnt out from skill issues and not having “excitement” which wasn’t really clarified as what they wanted but to have a dps rotations which a healer class shouldn’t have. The game was never meant for you to play as ONE Class you can but theirs a reason why it’s 21 jobs to choose from. Small things that should change are SCH GCD as well as its CD and AST card system (maybe bring back noct stance) One last thing I will add though is the expectancy of healers to have a perfect healing and damage in flogs is what should be addressed. As parsing is a big part of any content especially endgame. Whereas you get picked apart and judged by your peers of if you’re good or not. And those that were interviewed DO NOT speak for all healers that are out there ENJOYING THEIR JOB

"hectic enough to be fun" sums up Dawntrail to a T. These healers would absolutely be loving this expac if they were playing it.

I've commented this in other videos, but healers shine the brightest in new content when no one knows what they're doing. The playerbase at large has gotten better at the game and when you're so good at healing that it is no longer interesting to you, you've grown out of the role. I think this group's expectations are way too high vs. what SE wants to do with the content. SE wants to make the content more accessible, so it makes sense to 'gimp' all roles to a certain degree and ramp up the general fight difficulty with mechanics. Also: everyone reacts to content differently, so it's hard to find the average ground that works for everybody. There are people who *struggle* through casual content. These strikers are not those people.

Personal Opinion: I think it is silly to have a healer strike myself. I understand that there are issues with healers by design as I do play all four healers (and have played Savage + Ultimate). However, having a strike of not using a healer will not solve the issue itself, and what are the chances that Square Enix/JPN would care about the strike? I believe that if ppl want to do a strike about it, then do it effectively such as unsubscribe the game, and letting Square Enix know that you actually meant it (see example of WoW players back then with their exodus during 6.0 End Walker). A business company will only start to care if their income has been affected, and that is the harsh truth of reality. As for my own view, I stand by the view that: if I want to DPS or have a form of DPS rotation, then I would just go and play DPS job. There's a reason why we have a holy trinity of a Tank, Healer, and Dps present here in FF14 and I feel that Square Enix/team is trying to preserve that as a baseline. In the end of the day, we have to remember that this is their game. They can take players opinion and feedback in mind, but they're the ones that make the decisions because that's what their visioning of the game would be.

My duty finder has been wall to wall 'tank in need' since the first minute of early access, clearly the strike is a bunch of nothing.

Just a request, please turn of subsounds during interviews and stuff. It's a very loud one & it interrupts the flow & can make you miss out on things you or they say.

As a SCH "main" (been playing since ARR) and someone who just finished DT MSQ, I had a fucking blast. I've done savage and cleared a couple ultimates, so I'm by no means a super casual player. But for DT, the dungeon and trials were great, I felt engaged, loved the new takes on mechanics and I obviously enjoyed the healer queue advantage. So I don't know if I'm just stupid or not as "hardcore" about the job classes I play, but I don't feel anything close to what these healers feel.

I had a Puppet's Bunker roulette run today where myself on SCH and my party mate on SGE carried the entire alliance and rezzed entire parties multiple times. Sometimes the most fun is emergent tomfoolery. I do agree that healers are not as fun as they were, but I am also an old miserable bastard that misses HW MCH so...

I think the only issue with the whole "What if healers had an unsustainable dps button?" is that people would just metagame their piety around it. There's no way they could make it deal enough damage to be worth it but also balancing piety so people can't either trivialize the cost or ignore it and continue to do zero piety with pure crit+DH and just spam the weaker spell for cheap and do more effective dps right? No way to make both the cheap and expensive cast worth using.

EXCELLENT STRIKE MY LIEGE

I've been leveling WHM through the MSQ and I love it! Glare IV gives me an extra dimension of dps to consider. It's not huge, but it's nice.

In regards to the Dragoon rework they didn't say it was gonna huge, they even delayed it specifically due to negative feedback on other reworks.

If "Actually..." was a Person.

Wait there is a healer strike going on? I thought it was just the usual "all the tanks are busy, please comeback later."

These guys sound exactly like what I would imagine someone that starts up a strike discord to sound like

As someone who has mained healer since 2.0, DT is the most fun I had healing since HW/SB. Our role isn't perfect, but it feels like the devs are trying to cook something better content wise.

Oh no all 3 people who don't even main healer went on strike. Anyway...

About 28 minutes in, just a thought... They could really use some training in how to speak. Rapidfiring a thesis without breathing for several minutes straight doesnt make your argument true. It just disconnects the brain of people trying to listen to your monologue.

The real problem is that the 'Healing' part of healer and the 'Tanking' part of tanks is almost redundant in 99% of content. At least compared to other MMOs. Throw out the odd oGCD here and there and back to doing damage. On top of that - the Healer 'DPS rotation' is fundamentally boring and literally 1 dot and 1 spam button yet it is the thing you'll be doing most of the time. The most fun you'll have on a healer in FF14 is when everything goes wrong. Other healer DCed, 3 or 4 people in the dirt cause mistakes were made, relentless raid-wides and mechanics while trying to piece the party back together. That feels amazing but sadly it's a rare occurrence.

This is a good case of how important charisma is when trying to get people to support your cause. I generally agree with what these guys were saying, more complexity in healing and a better dps rotation would be nice. Yet I still found myself being opposed to their suggestions because they sound so whiney. I do want more job complexity to help content feel more engaging but man this video was just a bit hard to watch due to the way these people were presenting their points and how they carried themselves. I won't be striking personally because I am not a healer main to begin with, I play it very casually. Also I've seen a lot of JP players saying they like how healers play right now and that if you want to deal damage you should just play a dps. That makes me think Square will not change anything if their home, preferred audience is happy. Still glad Xeems decided to give these guys a platform to talk about their points even if I don't agree with everything they said or how they want to accomplish it. I just hope they get better at public speaking

After listening to this whole thing, I personally think the major problem is optics and the assumed reasons. Up until now the reasons I have heard are not around the job being unengaging (which I agree with), but instead about other jobs having more utility. While not indicative of the whole group, I can attest to people telling me I am the problem because I play warrior and that until Bloodwhetting and Equilibrium are removed, they will keep striking. Which to me is stupid because I personally feel warrior should be a tank with a huge health bar, tools to refill that bar, but less tools to reduce damage taken. Taking more damage, but just deciding to "shake it off" as it were. While a bit long winded at times, I think this portrayed a clearer picture of the actual goals. It turned it from something I thought was just coming form ignorant people, to a movement that I think is both important, and bigger than healers, with healers just being the primary voice as the most effected. I'm just sad that I didn't get to hear this sooner since I'm just a lowly youtube frog who doesn't care for watching streams live.

As a casual healer who sometimes does extremes and unsynced savages I am quite happy with how they play in DT. I think they should keep in mind that a lot of casual players don't want to sweat and just enjoy the game.

Mean while all my dailies are tank needed and i get insta queues lol

I'll give up healing on my DPS and tanks when healers give up damage. 4 healers can clear any dungeon in the game, and that completely invalidates both tanks and dps.

Do people forget the "Pure Healer Era" , where healers wanted to lose their dps buttons because " I am Healer and not a Green DPS" lol

Dear lord the mic picks up every morsel of sound coming out of his mouth

16:05 Deer in the headlights to a masterfully worded question. When I play Bard, I use my cleanse, I use Nature's Minne. And a ranged phys DPS that waits to use their mit for if the tank dies is just an awful team player anyway. I use my kit, whether i *HAVE TO* or not. Because you never know when you're gonna get a healer who doesn't pay attention, misses a doom on the tank, and you're the only person who can step up and fix it, even if you're just a DPS. Know your job. 41:55 Why are they referring to Bardam? The LITERAL tutorial dungeon in the third expansion? You learn nothing there except "who stands in bad" As a long time avid RP'er, hearing Xeno say RP was 50% of the game made me smile.

I’m not a healer main, but damn was it fun doing the final fight on Bozja’s third zone when all the other alliances were dead and had to solo heal and raise people as an Astro

My healer q’s are insta. They can stay on strike xd

As a legacy player who has been playing as long as Xeems, I immediately stopped what I was doing when he called us OG healers out about cleric stance. XD

I just want the healer DPS rotation to not be boring.

they can go on strike if they want to, i'll take the expansion players' first time bonuses :) All these healers strikers only do dungeon content 💀

As an AST main who has tried some of the other healers, hearing about this strike has been such an interesting experience because a part of me understands where the strike is coming from and it's reasons, but the other part just can't comprehend denying yourself a great game to play because one specific role isn't doing it for them. Blows me away that they can also CHOOSE to play DPS or tank, and enjoy it that way. I haven't found any boredom with healing at all since I picked up AST around the time I started back in 2018.

The fact that people in an MMO are "going on strike" just proves out the stereotype that there's a lot of people who play this game, or any game that serious are the same people with no real social life, no dates, probably still virgins but watch a lot of porn in the basement while the game is patching, etc. It's hilarious. You can almost draw pictures of what they look like in real life too lol.

Hold on a sec. When Xeems asked how are you striking did one of them say they been striking since Shadowbringers but they still play healer on occasion? And did they also say they’ve healed in EW endgame content including criterion and ultimates? Did I get that right? Cause that’s a pretty weak strike…

As a GNB/DRK tank main, i implore healers to comeback. Dungeons hits like a truck 😂

im lvling 4 healers at once only doing roulettes, ty strike. today I found a war in lvl89 dng, not using bloodwhetting not even once time. I guess he was on the strike too

Most fun I had healing in 8 years was blind progging T7 Savage on SGE with my static, after we took off a bunch of accessories to try to counteract stat/potency inflation. Despite only having like 4-5 healing actions, it was the hardest and most engaging encounter to heal I've ever experienced, including any ultimate. Having only two DPS buttons was fine, because I was spending most of my time actually thinking about healing. Triage was a huge deal and I was constantly making decisions about whether I could afford to delay some tank heal for 2.5 seconds to spot heal a DPS, and I had to carefully ration MP to end the fight at 10%. I was still mashing Dosis a lot, but it was no longer mindless. There's nothing else in the game like it anymore. But that sort of triage-based healing gameplay can absolutely work with FFXIV's job design if they would just design encounters for it. If not, they need to increase DPS complexity. Right now we just have the worst of both worlds and it sucks.

thank you for being the one streamer not acting a dick about this.

Im still playing healer but its very clear that the team does not dedicate enough time to healer design. The Sage change on early access was ridiculous but at least I got an OGCD which is one of the things ive always said Sage should have.

yeah thats what people in a healer discord would sound like

I get the impression that Scholar and Sage primarily lead to green dps burn out. They perform a large amount of healing passively from the fairy auto-heal and Kardia. This results in more focus on performing as a DPS since your healing is basically automatic. You don't even have to refresh a buff like regen or Aspected Benefic. So with a party that performs mechanics flawlessly, resulting in the lowest amount of necessary extra healing possible, you really are mostly just a Broil and Dosis machine gun. I basically only bring Scholar or Sage to lower content for this exact reason. Unless things go way sideways, I'm basically brain deading it for 20 minutes. Scholar is especially bad because the enkindle animation, VFX, and SFX for the fairy commands are basically all the same. Same for all the Seraph command animations, VFX, and SFX. Speaking as VFX mod creator, I'd like to at least see that change. The reason this is bad is because you basically see the same thing over and over when so much of their kit is bound to the fairy itself. So you just watch your character perform the same animation, vfx, sfx for several of their cooldowns even though the fairy performs different animations, vfx, and sfx. So even the healing aspect becomes a bit monotonous. Further, speaking as a VFX mod creator, I'd like to see them get rid of action.pap, which is a single animation file that holds dozens of animations for casting and magic skills. These animations are reused all over a job, where the same 2 or 3 animations will be performed by 7 or 8 abilities for that job. I'd like to see it discarded for the treatment that jobs like DRK, GNB, DRG, and most other melee jobs get, where each ability has its own unique animation. Even if they just left the casts as is, and made each action after the cast finishes unique. It would go a long way towards making the jobs feel more exciting. (It would also make modding those animations a lot easier, but that's not the point) But, in addition to all this, if we're going to make healers ACTUALLY green dps, their DPS kits need to be a bit more exciting. How we do that without making them perform any complex rotation, IDK. Maybe magic combos?

Soon as I heard dudes voice I knew this was some nonsense lmao.

I remember Gordias killing like 8 of my FC's statics and mine which was one of the "lesser" statics cleared it because we just damage and mechanics better despite not getting all the pots and support. Healers cried and complained and they were easily one of the reasons people didn't clear.

I for one will level my 4 healers in duty roulette. Fuck this silly strike. Edit: can I as a tank go on strike, because I am tired of having to solo bosses from 50% when the rest of my party die?

Not sorry, but this is a god complex issue. The group of players whom brag about leaving people dead, not healing people who fail mechanics, and being angst in general in DF LEVEL DIFFICULTY CONTENT is peak WoL syndrome.

1:09:06 When chat is bored and have not figured out why these healers are complaining 💀

Most wholesome streamer, least wholesome fan base 😢

After reading comments I get why you all drive Xeno crazy. lol

normally i play tank, but decided to play healer for DT, i love DPSing as a healer, feels like there is more purpose than me just standing there half afk brain like in other games.

One of the healers sounds like he is one sec away from crying

'get rid of materia' same

Xeno: Would you agree that the healer role is efficient? Healer: *gives a literal graduating thesis presentation on the fluctuating state of healing across expansions* Xeno: So you would agree that healers are efficient

bro has been striking for 5 years and all they've done is not play a job. they've paid SE 60 times since they went on strike

hilarious time to strike over healers not having anything to do when these dungeons and trials have some serious hands

i have been on and off healing since arr2.4 and as someone who very actively heals and does damage while doing class specific things the only notes i have are whm: damn my group is too good i have to waste Lily's to charge the blood lily new astro when its tank picto picto me: *stuffing 5 cards into tanks mouth* sage: CRIT EUKRASIAN DIAGNOSIS WOOOOOO scholar: CRIT ADLO EMERGENCY TACTICS WOOOOO you make your own fun, and you also make your own misery according to these 3 "healers"

I am simply quitting main healing sort of is because am minda bored of the 1-1-1+refreshing the over time dot. And on that note i tried drk and am in love with it tho i do think the striking is a bit exaggerated but some things about healers definitely could be improved to make it more fun when you are not doing heals

so from 6:03 now we know why WARs are near immortal, Xeno has PTSD from 611. All jokes aside, compliments to Xeno for taking the time to have an in-depth discussion, looking at a lot of the inane chat log comments he showed a lot more class than his viewers

Saying that ARR dungeons are objectively harder than any of the expansions is false. The difficulty of the actual content is the same. Healer kits are just so much more efficient.

After actually sitting down and listening to them, I don't think they deserve the amount of omegaluls and cringe comments that they get. It does take a certain amount of confidence in ones stance to even go on stream and do this interview, especially after seeing chats reaction to their strike as a whole and still do it with a straight face and I think that alone is noteworthy even if you think their desires and methods are unrealistic or petty. I do agree with a surprising amount of their views in terms of that casual and hardcore content have almost gotten formulatic in that as long as your party is relatively geared and awake, healing becomes boring in its downtime and theres not much room between the skill floor and ceiling beyond squeezing one more glare in between ogcds. Not so much the ideas they want implimented to the game as a whole like opt in hard mode dungeons etc, if anything I personally feel more like this is a problem of job design rather than content, but I can admit this whole thing is a joint problem from the two. Idk, overall kudos to them for doing the interview knowing they'll get clowned on and making their views more clear.

A healer strike? I helped the DPS to get through the leveling dungeons, 3 at a time with me as WAR tank.

I get having a preferred class type. But it feels like halfway in the video the 'identity' argument loses all credit for the strike.

I'm a warrior, jokes on them lmao

My favorite part about the strike is that its not noticable ingame at all, at least on NA. At the end of the day this "healer strike" is just a very very small number of upset and loud people who thinks that the majority healers agree with them when they obviously dont.

27:00, drink some water, take a breather. Feels like you're pushing your words out desperately with a dry throat.

excellent video

I still get insta que pops as tank. If I didn't read people whining online, I wouldn't even have felt there was a strike at all. Bet 90% of these names did their dungeons as healers when the expansion hit.

Thoughtful and meanigful way for healers? bro, we already have that, healers are good at what they do. You just want them to be mini damage healers on top of the already high amount of work they already have to do. of course this seems boring for people who only do leveling roulettes which seems to be their problem. they want more to do for easy content while the actual healer mains will be over worked. pointless strike. get em outta here.

Even when I encounter a healer trying to do his job, I end up healing the rest of the group myself as a war during dungeon bosses because they just die to mechanics. Once I see more than half my healers managing to survive a dungeon boss when playing through the msq, I might stand with such a protest.

What's with the bow?

The second person who started talking says it all about this dumb strike, it's someone who liked sch being a green dps and less being a healer. and doesn't really do high end content often. These are people who just want healers to be dps jobs, we're not going back to that outdated, stale way of playing healers anymore. that nonsense is over with. so in conclusion, as i thought this strike is extremely dumb and will not matter.

The person talking about doing dungeons with trusts versus not doing them doesn’t seem to understand how the trusts work. They say if you want an easy dungeon do it with trusts and if you want more of a challenge do it with people and the content should be more difficult with people. The content can’t be different for trusts versus not trusts. The content is the content and trusts need to be able to do it so the content has to be dialed into how the trusts work. Which is why some dungeon encounters in older dungeons were changed to make it trust friendly

Healers as a job/mindset want to feel needed and take care of the party, so when a new expansion comes out and we ALREADY ADJUST to doing more DPS in all content that can cause frustration in role. So the feeling is give me more dps combos then if you don't want to make fights harder in normal content, its one thing if its a savage raid/hard content without healer. In normal dungeons why even bother.

For context, im a giga-casual. I've done no savages, ive done like 2 ex trials sync'd in heavensward and have played about 2 years. While I am not striking i kinda get it. Healer can be boring, and all i can think is to attach the norms like "increased healing potency" skills attached as a side effect to an oGCD dps ability? But I dont think it could be assigned to a DoT. but thats my giga-casual take.

And this is coming from another Midcore HEALER 1.The idea that "We don't need certain mits for certain things" Is entirely stupid.. The incoming damage without the mit is really high. Especially in Savage and ultimate. There's such a thing as PLANNING what you are going to do.. meanwhile in casual and dungeons and such.. If you don't need mits for incoming damage then why would you brother mitigating? That's the counter point to healer and support.. So you'd want to hurt two roles? 2.They stopped putting extreme damage in STORY CONTENT so people can enjoy the game CASUALLY. You shouldn't be expected to use your whole kit in lower story dungeons. That's unreasonable... To ask for that is the high point of idiocy because someone who isn't gonna go into even EX trials? Won't go into a dungeon to heal if they can't guarantee their tank is gonna mit, they aren't gonna go in if they don't think they are up to snuff. So they deny themselves the story, the experience the enjoyment of the game. The key word is 'ENJOYMENT" Also Midcore isn't suffering in high end stuff... Literally isn't.. Even the kits are meant for EX and up.. That's nitpicky as fuck. 3.Healers are efficient yes because back when we had to FIND a time to do shit... To DPS, to FULL HEAL. Felt bad but when we had interesting kits.. Everyone complained about it. Which in my opinion.. We didn't need that.. I was fine with healing back then.. However the community itself did this to healers. 4.Fight design dictates that not every fight require healer checks, Dps checks, Body checks etc and I agree... Having Body checks in Savage to an increasing amount isn't good. The idea that a specific fight Which was designed for healers to just heal.. should be the same requirements going off of logs as one that is a dps check? is absurd. That's the point of view of a someone who looks in and goes "Why is this different? I don't understand fights" 5. Most of what I am hearing is "Things just need to be fun" and they didn't even wait for DT to drop to actually experience how fun these fights are right now. I have been using everything on Astro and enjoying it all. and half of them go from striking to playing a different class.. Maybe that's just what they should be doing? Don't get me wrong I get wanting change, but wanting change then saying "Strikes" then still playing the game? It's not a strike. This isn't a strike, do they want action done? Yes. But changing a word and it not being true to the word? Doesn't work out.

That high MP damage spell pitch is actually a really elegant solution. It's totally opt in and it can be used as much as the healer is personally comfortable with. Also I feel like current chat rules versus how chat was in HW would prevent a lot of the toxicity that low damage healers got back then. I actually think it's pretty solid for helping out healers that like how things are now and healers that want to just ride on the razor's edge like a lot of us back in HW did at the same time. I'd love to see it in action to see how it'd pan out.

Unpopular food for thought... Base level content doesn't punish enough to warrant even pressing mitigation buttons. I don't think healers are really the issue here, I would've at one point said tanks were the issue because they have SO many buttons to mitigate to the point that healing has become unnecessary. If we ignore bonus content like savage, EX, etc "harder" content and only talk strictly about MSQ and base raids here for this. Nothing actually punishes you to warrant using mitigation AND healing. You might see Doom in some cases or you might accidentally mess up a mechanic and eventually die from enough vuln stacks maybe? Outside of very niche situations, dungeon content doesn't actually need tanks to press mitigation buttons. You can of course and it does make pulls easier... but a healer can keep you going and you'll be fine. If they do mitigate, neat, it's smoother and the healer doesn't need to worry about pressing as many buttons... But both of these cases, you're not actually punished for NOT pressing buttons. You can get through all of the content without ever pressing rampart because the game at no point now makes this a consequence of not pushing it because you only need 1 HP to live anyways. I know that's been said as a meme to a degree but I think it's also reflective off how content didn't change alongside the changes made to jobs. Job guages were added to help people not look at hotbars so often and to make content increase in speed and difficulty, we received homogenized jobs to thin the "meta" so people could play what they like and the margin be as minimal as possible so more people could enter harder content. However, base content didn't change at all and doesn't reward you for playing optimally. It let's you get by doing the bare minimum. My personal take is that content damage needs to HURT. If we look at other MMO's and older MMO's where the holy trinity of tank/dps/healer exists... dps couldn't take on its own because it lacked a large capacity of HP, would die in 1-2 hits from something. Healing that meant it would stress the healer's MP before the dps could kill what they're trying to kill. A tank has 4x the amount, thus taking 5-8 hits and is more manageable between it being able to reduce the opponent's damage + the healer can keep up with this more normally. At a base level, this means enemy damage output punished you for not having a good amount of HP or having abilities that reduced outgoing damage. What we have in FFXIV is dps that pull for tanks because they have enough in their kit to tank it and enemies don't hurt enough NOT to. We have tanks not pressing mitigation because tanks already have a plethora of HP + passive healing/mitigation directly shoved into their damage kit(small things like brutal shell on gunbreaker and life leech skills etc). There's a lot of small bits scattered about in a tank's kit that it already can easily balance out without a healer since enemies don't hurt. You throw in mechanics you can avoid... and there's even less damage outgoing to your tank... Healer's still fulfill a role to heal when there's mistakes like mechanics messed up or niche top-offs from mechanics that require healing. Even the first trial of this expansion included a debuff that is just consistent damage over time because healers have a LOT of healing buttons but the fight has mainly mechanics everyone can avoid. Tanks still take autos, busters, and there's forced damage like stack markers but if everyone can absorb the hits easily without needing healing to begin + tanks can mitigate it all? It's redundant and then couple in when people get better gear and reach max ilvl for the duty. I'm personally not in this strike, I like my sage and how it plays, and I'm finding all of my abilities used even in base content. However all of our base content has adjusted to only needing the bare minimum to get by because there is no reward or consequence to do otherwise. More damage just means faster runs and content completed sooner, so there's that. However if a tank buster marker shows up on me and I don't have ANY mitigation of my own up, disregarding what mitigation a healer or dps could throw on me... it should kill the tank. Tanking used to be everyone's anxiety because of the responsibilities they thoguht they had in positioning, keeping up a "complex" rotation, and managing aggro... We've thrown aggro out the window with the stances and no more aggro abilities outside provoke/shirk, we have 1-2-3 or 4-4-4-4-4-4-4 button rotations or something of similar design, and most bosses automatically reset themselves, exist on an edge of the platform unmoving, or don't matter in their positioning. The base level content asks nothing of the player's agency to adjust and only asks that you keep up that 1-2-3 because you will be fine doing just that and only that. We got what we wanted to get players in comfortably, now they're complacent. Wups. TL;DR: Make base content rewarding/punishing again so people have a reason to try and look forward to pressing their buttons. Make enemies HURT, make tanks MATTER.

"I hope things change in 8.0" At least touch the content in 7.0 before saying nothing has changed, because DT doesnt play around so far and i love it.

The so called "healer strike" isn't noticeable all on EU. Besides some of the expert dungeons have been quite challenging, not in the sense that they're hard, but there are for sure moments that potentially could be considered intense for someone who's more casual. I've seen a couple of wipes/close calls.

Thx for the interview, It's important to support mentally injured ppl

They all sound like healers

Scholar can be played as hybrid DPS, my healer in christ, sage is build as DPS healer? Also Just play Dps, mage caster with rez, there is your red healer :D

Played since beta, and I can conclude, holy shit FF14 healers are such piss babies.

Ultimate drinking challenge: Take a shot every time you hear someone say 'um' or 'uhh'

I miss cleric stance. I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought it brought an added layer of strategy to pulls and boss fights. It made us sort of like blm where we really had to know the fights to get the most of it.

As a healer main since 1.0... Theres people out there with real problems. Chu all talking about??

They had some good points on fight design having more frequent instances of damage to allow using heals, even if its just your instants. But everything other than that was kind of hilariously bad. They clearly never did pharos when it was new. Thats why the bird is the only one they had trouble with, because its the only one that can wipe you now with the bird enrage. "Ive been striking since shadowbringers" is also telling. Having to gimp himself to do the fights is just really cringe, its easy to do with crafted gear! Uh huh. Then talks about stormblood. Nothing made me take him less seriously.