MyHouse.WAD - Inside Doom's Most Terrifying Mod 

"but can it run doom?"

@@jr-bh5rm you know damn well everything can run doom.

@@jr-bh5rm "But can it run in doom?"

Well, there’s a big difference between the forms of media that actually works in favor of adapting it into a video game. Control. Your input is directing the experience. This not only makes you feel personally involved, but also gives greater meaning to the unexpected changes making you feel like you *aren’t* in control. I love it when video games are referred to as the medium of “interactive storytelling”, because there is a greater value to it than some people realize, even today.

​@@chrisschoenthaler5184 I always feel like people who decry video games have never played through a good one.

it'd be a great vacation spot honestly

This is probably what an architect sees in a nightmare

@@random_user_br3007 Shouldn't an architect like designing nice houses?

​@@liquidsnake6879 Well yeah hence why this would be a nightmare

A little bit of a maze but once you get your routing it's very relaxing

Hehe snapcube (marry me)

"I'M BACK IN THE FUCKING *HOUSE* AGAIN" (pretend it's blue instead of just being bolded you can't change text color on RU-vid alas)

"Welcome to MyHouse.wad, as you can see I keep making the exit dissapear and changing how it looks on the inside because I get so tilted at the towers."

The delivery on that from Alfred was amazing

NO I THOUGHT THIS LAST NIGHT ITS LITERA;;Y JUST THAT

I was looking for this comment. 😂

That's also the beauty of Doom, and a lot of older games in general, something that I, and I'm sure others experienced as a kid playing these older games, when all the enemies are dead, or there's a strange lack of enemies, it always made me feel so uneasy, like I always expected something to be behind me. That portion with Shrek really personified that uneasiness, like as a kid I used to feel a game could just decide to add something behind me like that on a whim. It's not just limited to that though, it's really just anything that goes against your expectation of what a game establishes as normal, like if there's always background music but an area is lacking it, or there's normally ambient sound and then it stops, this mod does a perfect job playing on all those weird fears and superstitions you feel playing a game as a kid, but lose as an adult due to your experience and expectations being well established, that fear of the unknown kind of disappears.

@@Pigulodothat’s long

It's also hands down the most beautiful outdoor area I've seen made in GZDoom.

@@VicRiariaaverage 9 year old attention span

facts

I think this is the modder

@@tommytromboney8826 lmao

It's way past its era. I think it would have been influential to devs and gamers in the 90s. Although I think it should be put onto Roblox, as much as I normally hate that suggestion for games. There are not enough games with 'bad graphics' that provide this type of immersion, frustration and required relentless completionism. I can see how this would get hyped with a younger gen

@@nofuxgivens2797 what? doom modding is still incredibly active these days, how is it past its era

​@@chrisboelens2640it's a meme

@@seinyaaa4504 You're a meme! >:(

If he'd gone to therapy, we'd not have this technical masterpiece. Yeah, that's reason #19188 why it's better to let it fester, than to seek 'professional help'

​@@franciasii2435 you good bro? 🤨

Therapy is too expensive

Not even to mention the comment made when picking up the crayons, "Adult coloring books." I'm assuming something really traumatic happened there with an adult figure when they were little.

​@@solarmarks3093 what are you talking about? adult coloring books are real things, they're coloring books made specifically with adults in mind, I'm 36 and i have a few, i use colored pencils

​@@RosenrotRtLiebchen87 yeah. But the item was found in the daycare. Game wise it may mean something. Irl wise, didn't know they exist. Cool.

​@@solarmarks3093There's a berserk powerup in the daycare. As far as I know, it's the only one in the map.

@@Fruckert Got to use the cracked wall on the other side for it to get pushed off the shelf.

i was literally at 1:19:20 when i read this comment. it was creepy to say the least

happiness has to be fought for

facts. This is an amazing map

if I remember correctly, mirrored Underhalls is marked as MAP33, which means it was simply just remade and all exits within mirrored areas lead to MAP33 instead of MAP02 as for room-over-room and "parallel universes," just mapping tricks in modern source ports

Really went from “that’s weird for doom” to “I am in a non euclidean dreamscape that embodies my fears and trauma”

@@collincornish1492 in a matter of minutes

It's really not that deep, calm down.

exactly, slowly realizing the gas station was just the house sent chills down my spine

I didn't even notice lol

@@njdotson homie he says it in the video like every other minute 😭

It drove me fucking mad lmao, every time he said “oh yeah btw it’s the house again” I was tearing at my hair

More than that, to my mind, is that, as you play through the mod, you start to look for signs of the house. Any time you see a slanted wall or a staircase, you start to question if it's the house. It mentally seeps into your mind, and slowly becomes the only thing you can think about. Just like the mod in the fiction of it's creation. Just like the Navidson Record in House of Leaves. Expertly crafted horror.

Nightmind had a theory that House of Leaves was actually about Danielewski's relationship with his da. Mark Danielewski retweeted the video after it was posted.

Good thing there is most likely nothing in there because if I was playing and randomly saw some demons in there I would shit myself.

Grover could never

​@@bengrizzle3292 what?

@@user-vi4xy1jw7e I think he's referring to the seasame street character.

Always be sure to renew your liminality license.

@@user-vi4xy1jw7e look up "Groverhaus"

Timestamp?

@@alisyedhasany6594 1:16:00

genius what the fuck thats genius

That's actually crazy wtf

Genuinely smart design. The creator or creators knew what they were doing.

Around the time I found this mod and video, I had to leave my house because of a fire. We spent a year with some relatives who lived nearby. No insulation or padding in the walls, 2 toddlers, and almost 8 people in one house. I hated every moment in that house with my parents yelling at me constantly over small things. This map felt therapeutic in a way, like no matter what awful thing comes next, or has happened, the sunset isn't too far away

I went back to my childhood home last year (we sold it pre-covid), thinking I would feel some sense of nostalgia, or loss. When I actually saw it, the memories of my horrible childhood came back, and I just felt disgust. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I am just glad that I have moved on to somewhere I really can call home.

I was fortunate enough that my childhood didn't fall apart until near the end of it but watching this evoked similar emotions. I've had so many bad dreams and outright nightmares that are so uncomfortably similar to this modded level. I think if I ever returned to that house it would break me. It's such paradoxical feeling to both long for and be simultaneously terrified to return to such a place.

I'm an adult and still have these nightmares. They're largely the only dreams I end up remembering. They tend to repeat themselves and break when I remember them in the moment and take the correct course of actions, or begin to outsmart them. It mimics aspects of this map and adds to why I felt such a vein of horror on the first watch of this video.

edgar allen poe would be proud (re: the fall of the house of usher)

have you seen Jacob Geller’s video about this concept? specifically the one called “Control, Anatomy, and the Legacy of the Haunted House” but also “Four Short Games About Pain” bc it discusses some of Kitty Horrorshow’s other work and it seems to be somewhat of a recurring theme for them

​@@natalyn139 I second this recommendation.

I hope one comes out that looks like blame

silent hill 4

doom is doom and doom is murder. house is doom. house is murder. gotta love “return to roots” endings

I just love an ending with such “fuck it, we ball” energy. Where you refuse to compromise or accept a disappointing conclusion, and just go on a tear after the game’s spent so long beating you down. For all its faults, cyberpunk 2077’s secret ending is what immediately comes to mind when I think of another example of such vibes

It's why the line "Happiness is worth fighting for" works so well in this video. It's cheesy, but this dude has some serious narration and editing skills to the point that it works.

@@ji604 he has such a unique style of video structure and narration. For the most part it’s structured as if you’re watching a genuine first time reaction, almost like watching your friend play over his shoulder, but he knows exactly when to interject, when to shut the fuck up, when to let the footage play out and speak for itself, when to add context, when to add drama, etc.. it’s so organic and he knows how to evoke the emotions he wants without making it feel like you’re watching a performance. The dude is both amazingly talented and skilled

​​​@@daltongarrett3393Hitman Blood Money has a good ending in that sense

I could just mentally see Doomguy pumping his shotgun at “happiness must be fought for”. I’ve used your time stamp to rewatch it so many times.

Do you know the name of the song perhaps?

@@Thatguygaminglol like the wind

​@@Thatguygaminglol literally no one knows lol. People usually refer to this as "The most mysterious song on the internet", " The Mysterious song" Or "Like the Wind"

@@Thatguygaminglolits a huge internet mystery that no one knows where the song actually came from

Hope you enjoy it. Merry Christmas!

Merry Xmas OP, 👋 Maybe update on here your conclusion or interpretation after reading and rewatching the video? Either way, I wish the best for everyone on here.

Not sure it will add much understanding, just more dread and horror 🤣 I hope you enjoy the book, it’s certainly a process getting through it!

The algorithm blursed your comment with attention!

Same story here

I think it was certainly a gamble, but the creator was certainly aware of the dedication of the Doomworld community to really try most mods on the platform. With the seemingly sweet story about it it also had a lot of draw.

No, this was was always going to be a big deal. all that needed to happen was for one person to try it and they would tell others because it was so weird, and expansive. Word of mouth was always going to make it big.

I’m not saying it happened, but a stealth marketing campaign to reach a few influential doomworld users would be one percent of the effort of the mod.

It's a big risk that projects like this masterpiece face, it's a big part of the reason ARG's aren't as big as they deserve to be

@@nathanjasper512 thats the gamble, even if they tried it, they wouldnt necessarily walk back to the house again.

Yeah, you can see the backrooms inspiration throughout it.

@@welestgw I was getting "The Beginner's Guide" vibes throughout

​@@welestgw House of Leaves in particular, what with a house that's constantly shifting and becoming gradually more and more nonsensical as it goes on, and the actual hallway complete with the ashen gray walls, the stairwell down into nowhere that takes far less time to get back up than it does to go down.

O shut up its just a mod

@@Genindraz That’s where my mind went almost immediately. House is one of my favorite books of all time. It wasn’t until 18:05 that my suspicions were confirmed by the for sale sign that read Navidson Realty.

It's not really that difficult. Just triggers at different points to swap things out of view.

Wow thank you! I have never heard of this and I LOVE HoL.

that album is actually a huge part of my late childhood and i have fond memories of listening to it with my mom and sister while driving to and fro. i knew it was related to house of leaves, but i never read the book, just was a huge Poe fan lol

I finally powered through the book recently thanks to this RU-vid video and had an incredible time; thanks for sharing this additional recommendation!

Shrek might be a clue of a time line.

Stillborn, way worse than a miscarriage 😢

​@@YoursUntrulyall stillborns end up being miscarriages though, technically, only if both perish would it not be one...

@@darkerdaemon7794 a still born is a full term baby, unexpectedly dead at birth. You grow it and expect to be delivering a baby and only find out you won’t have one when you fully birth your dead child,

Miscarriages are losing the baby before it’s due.

As well as seeing Blood in Doom! (I'm talking about Bad Dog aka Cerberus and fishes in Bathhouse pool that are from this game)

The bloody nose

I don't understand?

@@dickbutt69for some reason, seeing the blood on the floor and walls like in the airport’s bathroom or in the gas station feels..disturbing even if it’s in Doom

It's funny, I used to play a lot of Brutal Doom so it's weird to not see blood and guts splattered everywhere in Doom. Yet the blood smears in the bathroom make me feel so uneasy.

Doomguy: 🤨

Damn, the creator should do a full episode

When the OP said they were "polishing up an old map" I think they used that term very loosely. lol

@@moonbyul873 yeah bcuz it wasn't an old map. It was made more recently.Its a sortof arg type thing

@@Damian-cilr1 Yup. I wrote my first comment after the first round through the house. I initially just thought it was a super detailed project based off of a junky old map. Just finished up watching the rest of the video and it's even cooler that I thought it was. Such a cool and interesting concept for a map. Not even just a map, but a whole flipping experience.

I was wondering how they managed to do it. I remember tinkering with the doom and duke3d map editors in the late 90s (kinda similar to each other) and they were VERY limited. For example, even just making a 2 story building was impossible because you can't have 1 room on top of another. In other words, vanilla doom was pretty much 2 dimensional with the illusion of height. I remember one time trying to build a trippy series of non-Euclidian rooms by simply overlapping the geometry. Surprisingly it "worked" for like 2 seconds before the game crashed haha.

Yeah! I think I only really started noticing when I saw that some of the doors in the water-filled house wouldn't open all the way

I think sometimes they open inwards instead of outwards too!

omg i thought i was the only one who saw that

@@cez_is_typingif you ever take it upon yourself for another round of torture, could you look for if the hinges line with the direction the door swings?

That's a super interesting theory I totally have tons of memories like that !! Like one specifically I remember frequently was an "attic space" that was real but in my memory it is somewhere it logically would not make sense (I remember specifically going DOWN to get into it from my bedroom closet but it wasn't a basement it was like an attic/crawl space and it was a 2 story house so if I went down from where I remember it being there was already a living room there). I have no idea where in the house the crawl space actually was but I frequently reflect on the fact that it could not possibly have been where I remember it being

I was thinking that as well. Kind of like how Shrek appears as a mural on the wall, disappears, then attacks you in the playground. Seems like a childhood nightmare you'd have at naptime if your kindergarten had a scary Shrek mural on the wall, no?

That's what I was thinking, That 'I want pop' was a double-entenre of sorts, For me, due to it being in the different house, I was thinking it was some sort of divorce metaphor.

It depends on the game. Sometimes hyper realism is very good. Sometimes blocky is better.

​@@rhamlet5290there's a set level of graphics for a game that is necessary, so the developers should focus on gameplay instead. Plus realistic looking games have the disadvantage of looking the same

@@nirvanic3610 They don't all have to look the same and it really depends on the game. Hyper realism can be very good for some games. Stray, for example, mixes very realistic environments with science fiction very well. I think it would be fundamentally a less interesting game if they didn't balance the real with the fantasy so well all with very detailed assets

​@@rhamlet5290 I think the problem with hyper realism it will get outdated in the future and will poorer to next gen graphics.

Undertale: *Has now entered the chat*

He's been in hell for a very long time, nothing scares him.

​@@greatwavefan397 but aint this the space marine who was sent to an abandoned station as a punishment fighting for his life?

Doomguy: "I'll kill a thousand demons, a million, I don't care, nothing scares m- OH NO NOT THE HOUSE NO WAIT WAIT PLEASE"

guess hell isnt a place. its a feeling

This map is deep and all but doomguy only ubderstands 2 things: Rip and tear

I turned myself into a pumpkin! I’m Pumpkin Rick!

geez i hate how youre right. little inside jokes immortalized, not elaborated, and raw without explanation how barren that idea is

Actually more disgusting, considering they turned out to be gay.... bwargh

"Roll for intercourse" sounds like the end result of the world's tamest game of FATAL.

pumpkin rick roll for intercourse

Now he gets to be the one wrenching guts

"Doomguy, you good?" "Yeah, just... sold my house."

@@seacatlol831 i like to imagine doomguy sitting on some stairs with a random zombie asking him this

@@genericuser984 Yeah, me too.

I don't know if this video covers it, but if you exit the MyHouse level from the mirror universe, you end up in a mirror version of Underhalls, where even the map title is "sllahrednU"

Highly deserved, this video went crazy

I had to fast forward it because it gave me chills

i watched it on mute and through my fingers, no freaking thank you

I did NOT like how it follows the camera

at what time does this happen in the video?

@@krewm.2128 51:37

They better start their own company though

@@ENDrain making doom maps? or odd mystery games? they're incredibly talented but that wouldn't be a good idea

given the level of skill and technical knowledge highlighted in this mod, they might already be working in the industry in some way.

I think they don’t need to, I think the fact that they made this, in a 30 (I think) year old game, where most people feel nostalgic for it, makes it all the more incredible

@@Zipesthemanokit yeah but they deserve money for this level of skill IMO

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Another tuesday for Doomguy

mans just like: “This really isnt worth my time”

This comment is extremely character accurate

But he does have a couple of 😲

Don't forget he sometimes goes 😈

The thing is: Yume Nikki is a straightforward surreal piece of RPG work that is eventually revealed in the end to be a girl's psyche. This game is inspired by House of Leaves which is literally one of the most fractured, deconstructionist and postmodern novels of all time. It's like comparing something like Dreams (1990) to Synecdoche, New York (2008)

​​​@@caringheart34idk if I'd call Yumi Nikki straightforward, the most straightforward part is the fact she is dreaming which is revealed on the beginning... oh and the ending is straightforward, everything else is left to interpretation and exploration I think this mod def makes the reality of the world less straightforward but it gives more hints (in the form of the journals and other info) on what is happening in the real world than Yumi Nikki did In the end i do think there is loads of similarities, my favorite is the feeling of loneliness you get from both as you explore

The song actually plays during the fight? I thought that was an edit from this video specifically. I haven't gotten that ending yet.

@@RedSpade37 It does not unfortunately, but I do think it fits in the video itself.

​@@Shemsy.C I agree! And for myself, once I got to the Final Battle, I played the music myself, and it was a fun time! I didn't think I could win out against all those demons, but I did it!

@@RedSpade37 The music just makes it better in every way :)

It is like you EMBRACE the creepiness of the map. Car crash and an abandoned gas station? The house changing and all the levels? Actual horde of monsters attacking you? FUCK THAT SHIT I WILL BE HAPPY slaying all those monsters, pausing for a soda and ice cream ofc because, why not?

Saw this comment last night and thought ‘haha that’s my luck too’. Also had the most stress-inducing nightmare in about a year lol

Now I am scared to sleep. I just watched a dream matter doom video. This is gonna be tough lol.

God yes, I literally got through the whole video, was like "that was an amazing journey and mystery, but not really terrifying", then got up and immediately felt intensely like I was being watched while walking in my empty suburban Illinois house, and thought I was going to see something or someone in all of my mirrors and windows O_O

Did you perhaps.. "wake up drenched in sweat"

Honestly the video itself feels like a lucid dream ,I cant remember much of it but it gave me an unsettling vibe

You can also put on one of the shirts in the airport for blue armor, though it's not blue

@@cdru515 immersion ruined

@@bitzthe8bit668 Immersion destroyed, day ruined, life over.

That curved hallway in the hospital area looks just like one of the dorms at my old school wtffff

Tome say that being in the closet gives you armour

I mean yeah Doom guy live in mars almost for decade see other human house Will be absolute terrifying

was there somrhing wrong with the music

​@@khan-ch2vs wdym?

@@khan-ch2vs There's a lot that goes subtly wrong with the music in the mod but I didn't pinpoint specifics. I just noticed it felt... Really incorrect in a way I couldn't immediately spot

Hearing a normal door opening sound too instead of the compressed future door was really unsettling in a weird way.

I don't know if this is fake or real. By that, I mean that I don't know if whoever created this really was grieving or he's just a basement troll.

66 megs on floppy, I call BS.

@@PexiTheBuilder The .wad map is much smaller. And even then it's still modified from what was supposedly found on the floppy disk.

​@@PexiTheBuilder Obviously ARG-esque things like this are 99.9% likely to be made-up. Doesn't make it any less fun to pretend that it's real though.

@@Winter-Alpha-Omega this is definitely an arg- i dont think anyone is arguing it is real but observing it as real and investigating as if it was is really interesting

That's sad

Damn. Although, Alzheimer's or not, why would he wander into a fire escape tunnel and think that would be a good place to stay? He should have been kept in a home if he was so prone to getting lost, but I feel for him nonetheless

@@donovanjoseph737 the fire escape (if I remember correctly) was labeled “exit” and he wanted to leave the mall so I guess it makes sense in that way. He was pretty functional from my understanding and some people believe that he would have easily been able to get himself back into the mall except for one thing: the door locks behind you once you get in. It’s reasonable to believe that he would have realized immediately that he wasn’t in the right place and turned around to get back to the food court. But he was trapped and the only way out was through a literal maze of dark, poorly labeled, identical tunnels. The mall knew it was dangerous, too. The entrance to the fire escape was video recorded and the mall had a policy of doing sweeps of the fire escape tunnels every week or so because they probably worried about this exact thing happening to a little kid or a disabled adult. Except they never performed sweeps of the corridors and the police didn’t bother to look at any security footage when he was reported missing. If they did, he could have been found within a day. It wasn’t until his body was accidentally discovered by an employee that they looked at the security tapes and realized what had happened. Super disturbing.

@@donovanjoseph737 People with Alzheimers sometimes hallucinate and don't know where they are. He may have thought he was waiting in a subway station or somewhere similar.

​@@donovanjoseph737if he had Alzheimer's and was prone to getting lost, I'm certain that he definitely didn't know he was waiting in a fire escape tunnel where he wouldn't be found

How is it like Silent Hill

@@Bklyn93 the hospital bed, the themes of personal/family trauma, the uncertainty whether it's real or all in their head, the demons, the multiple endings and secrets, plus the entire level design and structure takes heavy inspiration from the wave of games that really took off with PT (Layers of Fear, Superliminal, etc.), though also earlier games like Antichamber.

​​​​@@Bklyn93 Sh2 also does the crazy reality jumping into different disconnected places ALL the time. There's a sequence where you go into a museum, descend down an impossible staircase under the lake into a prison, where you keep jumping down holes into graveyards, freezers, mazes, warped hallways of homes, factories, sewers, all that.

@@austinha11 Learn to use “your” correctly

​@@denchicksson HA! GOT 'EM

It is haunting because, in a way, you feel like you are walking but you aren't going anywhere

⁠@@Julys443 ”you’re walking but you aren’t going anywhere” yes yes yes yes THAT’S THE DEFINITION OF A LIMINAL SPACE!!! (aka a place of transition, so the place helping you get to somewhere, not the actual location you’re going to) AND ALSO TIES IN WITH HOUSE OF LEAVES AND THE WEIRD HOUSE, aka you could walk for miles inside of the endless hallway yet you’d still be *inside of the house* (aka the house being bigger on the inside than outside ykyk)

​@@Julys443it also goes a long way in making you feel trapped inside the house once the doors disappear, because despite the different locals, they're all just the house again.

Honestly, the realization each time you're in a new space that it is just the house again gives me the same vibe as when you see a meme, but realize it's just "Loss" again.

Personally, I think it's a statement on grief-when you lose someone you love, nearly everything will remind you of them in some way or another.

the map creator gaslighting the player every turn is **chef's kiss**

I got jumpscared by dog

Fear has three flavors: horror, terror, and... Dread. That's what you're describing. It's hauntingly deeper and heavier than the others.

Idk that demon in the bloody bathroom got me pretty good

​@@OhNotThatthat's not what 'gaslighting' means.

With Minecraft door opening sound effects

I didn’t even realize that!

its weird how a normally opening door can be weird

I am impressed by the fact that the creator managed to script of all the suddenly changing environments in one map (even as a mod)

@@tituslafrombois1164 its not even close to the minecraft door noises bruh

Kinda weirdly wholesome and nostalgic ngl

Would love to see more games using that concept, it's something really special that I think can only be achieved in the gaming medium.

I like how the Scarlet & Violet DLC now has another Mew moment. But it actually works this time!

@@voiceofthelegion578 it's very unfortunate that this type of stuff can't really happen again considering everything is so easy to disassemble and document nowadays. Toby Fox for instance tried to add some secret routes on his latest game but it took around a day before people found out and documented them online.

@@cfaibah :/

If only those small children had a rocket launcher.

@@basilmemories If I had a dollar for every time I thought that sentence…

Y'know, when I watched Skinamarink, my first thought was "I wonder what this would be like if it were a good movie?"

@@cactynemann4356 Nobody likes a killjoy.

Where can I watch this

agreed

exactly what i wanted to say, it works so perfectly, the song playing in the background also makes for such a climactic battle.

Yeah, he executed that segment perfectly

it reminds me of how difficult being a gay couple can be, especially in an area hostile to gay people. i wonder if the obituaries didnt mention who the men were married to on purpose

@@bugpawwhat

I dont like to think it is a love story, I take the entire thing as a story about grief and what it can do without help and support. If i lost my best friend who loved doom i would also make a doom map in his name. @@bugpaw

yeah it is, it kinda pained me when not far after that he said something about a "skin stealer" as if it wasnt some entity made by children that attempt to turn everything into a jumpscarefest

@@axiolot5857 To be fair, that monster in the backrooms on the map? The entity's named "SkinStealer"

I loved the wnding, it shows from bestTo friendo to husband and husband.

❤️

​@@axiolot5857 You do know the concept of a "skin stealer" wasn't entirely invented by the Backrooms fandom? There have been many myths and legends in many different cultures about a being that steals your skin.

Yeah they had to be super intelligent ab the order of the reveal for it to come anywhere near the intended effect and I think it was done perfectly. You dont learn more than you need as you go through the video and you begin to question is PowerPak tricking us somehow in the order of info roll out(misdirection makes horror better or more real like every time)

So a liminal space, then

You could call it a liminal space

It feels wrong, it also feels like, even when you figure out all the answers, the ONE secret. You still have no idea what is happening, nor..... if that was the true answer.

These are the types of things that can happen when you somehow mod Doom 2 to allow non-euclidean level design. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_xFbRecjKQA.html

@@fitzr0551 I mean why not🤷‍♂️ a lot of liminal spaces have that unpleasant feeling, yet it all feels so familiar

No, it’s doom

Unlikely places? Have you seen what doom modders are up to.

@@FamSisherDare I say, this comment is Gold.

No it's the Doom Engine

Umm, I think you mean to say most. Mainstream is as a general rule of thumb, absolutely shitty garbage that people feed themselves to feel good while somehow not managing to be bored, good stuff mostly gets ignored because it's too much for some people to swallow

This detail would be such a terrifying aspect to add to other horror games. I was genuinely disturbed when I saw that scene; the atmosphere and setting complements it so well.

It's really simple: dude's a 2d model, same as all the monsters. You don't have any weapons there though so he's polite and doesn't attack you.

For others, it's @51:34

he followed the player? i didn’t see him at any other point in the gameplay, unless i’m missing something. i totally could be, so if anyone could give me pointers it’d be much appreciated.

@@approximated_nerd It's purely a visual effect in that one room. If you look at the shape of the guy you'll notice that he stays looking at the player from behind the curtain regardless of where they move.

There are no windows to the basement either, it all starts so subtly!

Yeah, there is so much to see that it's almost impossible to catch everything on the first go.

The doors suddenly swinging did it for me

THATS SO AWESOME AND SCARY MAKING A TUMBLR POST RIGHT NOW AND ALLEGEDLY GROOMING MINORS HEARD ABOUT THAT BUDDY HAVE FUN INPRISON

@@gagemerck6761 You good bro?

What's the full name of the song? I've looked it up and all I can find is some rap track lol

yeah what is the song?

@@-IE_it_yourself I just found it out. TMMS stands for The Most Mysterious Song. On yt, it's "the most mysterious song on the internet. No band has come forward to claim it so it seemingly appeared from nowhere. Very cool tune 👌

@@DayTripper44925 im on it.

tbh at first i was like, what are the doom monsters there. but yeah you nailed it. and it really brings the mod to another psychological level. lol, considering i wrote a short story about a dude fighting zombies that were a metaphor of his regrets, im surprised to took me so long to make that connection.

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Absolutely, would love to know how some of these things were accomplished in the doom engine.

@@meekrab9027 Doom editing tools are incredibly advanced and user friendly these days, after 30 years of development and refinement. Plus the ZDoom engine port is packed full of features the original Doom didn't have. That's exactly why we get stuff this high quality- It's simple enough for anyone to pick up and make stuff, but the skill ceiling is near endless. I know how most of the tricks in this level were achieved- The ZDoom engine allows for some pretty advanced scripting, which would enable most of the stuff that changes between areas (if they aren't just full duplicate areas, which is also possible). You could conceivably pull that stuff off with the vanilla engine's switch logic, maybe, but it would be a huge headache so my bet is just ZScript. Most of the spatial tricks are likely silent portals, a special ZDoom feature, which essentially teleport a player without making them aware of it. You can use this to create the illusion of non-euclidian geometry pretty easily (although they have some giveaways, so you have to be careful how you do it). Making the file a PK3 also gives you more flexibility in adding assets, for instance I don't think you could pull off the way it switches between classic gun animations and SmoothDoom otherwise. But regardless, it still takes immense skill to implement all this stuff as seamlessly as in this map, and not only that, the author used all of the quirks and shortcomings in the engine to the map's advantage. This is quite clearly the work of someone who has been intimately familiar with the Doom engine and its tools for a great many years. I wouldn't be surprised if it were Romero himself.

@@meekrab9027 As someone who modded the original DOOM 2 excessively back in the day, before the term "modding" was even a thing, all i can say is that it's a lot of portals, with repeating structures, that get alterered and reused time and time again. I think only someone that has created maps in Doom themself can truly understand the sheer insanity that this map and it's editing really is. It becomes a thing of it's own really. The limitations of the engine forcing you to think in certain ways you normally wouldn't, creating a narrative of it's own in the process. It's like a reinforcing feedback loop, except that every iteration of the loop alters the next, to the point that it becomes blurry where, how and why it all started. Hence the bit in the journal, where the author speaks about the map making process, stating that it needs them as much as they need it. I'm not sure about how much GZDOOM actually expands on what is possible in terms of the engine, but judging from what i experienced back when DOOM 2 was a thing, i'm pretty sure this map is quite close to the limits of what is technically possible in various ways, be it sheer map size, amount of triggers, events etc. leave alone the interconnectivity of the logical structure in the construct that makes up the story.

use of seamless teleportation (theres a video about it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Iq1-TZXz9xo.html)@@meekrab9027

It says HOME in the airport implying that home is somewhere else always out of reach

y'all reading way too into this

​@@dakota9407 it's a clearly esoteric and metaphorical artpiece, the whole point is to read into it

@@kuunt6065 I will never read into anything outside of face value. That way my brain stays smooth and I stay frosty.

​@@dakota9407 at least you are self aware

I WAS RIGHT, OH MY GOD

I posted this right before he brought up the blue "house" words in the notes, and then when I saw that I was like "no fucking way"

@@78declan you know all things

@Halo-lg7rq nah just had a hunch, was cool to be right

It was foretold

God when it reopened in the infinite corridor I freaked and I'm not even the one playing it.

Just watched this part and went to the comments to see if it freaked anyone else out as much as it did for me.

Same, I've never been so freaked out by something so debatably cliché (Hell, I made a HL2 map with a similar bit in it myself). It really demonstrates the importance of execution. Like hearing an old joke told in a new way that makes it funny again. Its an old scare made terrifying once more.

@@DrHammerr it’s the reopening of the door that got me.

have you guys read House of Leaves? The dark maze is basically a recreation of parts of the book

I mean. when your whole life is fighting demons, a little subtle horror is probably a nice change of pace.

"🤨" edit: holy enchanting table how did I get more than 2 likes wowzers

Doom guy is just super comfuse on why there was no demon blood getting spilled everywhare 24/7

Guy has been to literal hell. It probably feels like a vacation.

yeah.

I kind of wish they don't come forth. It would lessen the mystery of it all.

Someone has done a video explaining how it's done. It's excellent and linked from the game release on the forum.

@@northernhorror8212 Can you link it?

@@northernhorror8212 here for the link too, or the title since youtube doesn't like links in comments

@@franz.francisco DavidXNewton did a breakdown on it, not sure if that's the videos they were talking about but I love his content so figured I'd mention he did this too.

actually genius wtf

that was my first thought when the custom height was mentioned

Yeah i also thought about that

exactly what i thought when i saw the height change

So maybe he can fit in the airport conveyor belt?