Fun fact about the most famous "shell shock" image, the guy smiling isn't in fact under shell shock, he is smiling because a sniper bareley missed him, and he's laughing about it. There was a channel on RU-vid that talked about him, forget what channel it was exactly, but it's that bearded guy with the hot indian wife.
I had heard both perspectives of the story, and I could only find information on the picture being an actual PSTD victim. If you have a source for the real story, I would like to see it
It typically happens as the generations go on. Eventually WWII will fade and people will be talking about Vietnam more. The last WWI veteran died over a decade ago but there are still thousands of WWII veterans alive so we can still get a sense of WWII first hand. However, they are dying fast. Same thing most likely happened with the Revolutionary war, Civil war, and so on. We all get lost to time eventually.
Just that it didnt happend like that.Yes there was a cease fire,yes the spoke to each other,but didnt celebrated togther or played soccer.The picture often showen is from Britisch (or franz) troops playing soccer in a field camp behind the front.PPl often thing soliders stayed all the time in the trenches.But they didnt.They would rotate from front trenches to back and then after some weeks in a far more remoter Field camp. A important thing germany didnt do so much as the allied, so the german soldiers were oftne more tired.Same is in Ukraine russia rigth now.Ukrainiens are able to regain and calm down...russians are not.... Jus think about it.
You were there? You said you saw it... At any rate, I'm near certain not much like the story happened, my guess is it happened, sort of, at one spot on the line - and propaganda took the ball and ran with it. Sources from the time have peculiar wording, but later it's turned into something that implies it was common. I'm certain it wasn't - because doing what is described would have generated lot of executions for collaborating with the enemy.
@@noth606 Well actually it happened all along the front and some of the soldiers who participated were rotated off of the front because they refused to fight after that. There might not have been a football match, but they certainly met and exchanged goods. Why would propaganda run with something that promotes fraternisation?
@@Falkriim You're welcome to believe what you want, I have had the chance more than once to compare what's "history", what was in "media" at the time, and evidence actually on the ground, to know that between 99% and 100% of nearly all modern "war history" is untrue. What is "official history" is never true, at least I've never once found it to be - it's somewhere between wildly embellished and completely made up. What's worse even, is that actual events disappear completely, I've been a first hand witness to what I'd consider important events when I was in the military. Not a peep ever came out of it. You'd think something would come out, even if on some conspiracy crank site or so - but nope. Zero. So I'll stick to what makes sense to me, and y'all can stick to what you like, and in the mean time what actually happened has been put 6' under and forgotten long before we were born. Refusing orders, abandoning post and fraternizing with the enemy is seldom rewarded with vacations, like you said happened, but then again, neither of us knows.
I might be wrong, but there may be another ship named during that time. I guess this because im gonna use USS Montana, which was a destroyer, and another ship named USS Montana, which was a battleship that, if i remember correctly, was canceled and scrapped, though i could be wrong
The russian sentry one is probably about russian soldier who was found in collapsed tunnels in Osowiec fortress in Poland. After the Great War newly formed polish state was rebuilding old imperial fortress, when they found him. He was blind, and refused to leave his post when polish soldiers ordered him to. The sentry said that the only people who could remove him from his post were his CO or the Tsar himself UPD: decided to get rid of my drunk ass typos and clarify why dude didn't die when he was trapped in the tunnels. Russian Imperial Army withdrew from Poland in 1915 being certain they will return soon enough. Russian general stuff viewed the retreat as necessary step to regroup the army so they wouldn't be sandwiched by German and Austrian army from north, south and west (speaking of their Polish territories). When they've withdrew they've stashed huge amounts of necessary stuff for soldiers - ammo, weapons, clothes and most importantly - canned food. The sentry was trapped in one of this stashes under Osowiec fortress. For nine years straight he was eating canned food and drank water that flowed from a crack in the ceiling.
@@occam7382 Polish officer who've served in Russian Imperial Army told him there is no Russian Empire anymore, and sentry agreed to surrender. After that there are no certainty about his fate - in some sources he somewhat recovered and lived in Poland for many years to come and in others he later succumbed to health problems and died prior WW2 Upd: I googled it a bit and it seems that he was in tunnels since 1915 to 1924, and poles offered him to stay in Poland and wrote about him in newspapers in 1925, calling him the most loyal tsar's soldier, but he refused to stay and left to his hometown somewhere in western Siberia. I was unable to find his name tho, but nevertheless there are some proofs that dude was real
These historical icebergs are awesome I loved the WWII one, would listen to it all the time while studying. Hope you'll release a Cold War / Vietnam one I'm sure there's a tonne you could cover.
The anti-Germanization of WWI wasn't just renaming food, it also put an end to many German-American cultural institutions. German churches, schools and communities rebranded, switched to English and distanced themselves from Germany. It was when Germans joined English as being mainstream white Americans with little German heritage in most cases.
English Royalty even changed their family name in 1917 to distance themselves away from their German heritage. Queen Victoria, a Hanover monarch, married the Austro-Hungarian prince Albert Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, bringing their name to the royal house of England. But when anti-Jerry sentiments rose, they changed the royal family name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to a more traditional Anglo-Saxon sounding Windsor, which remains today.
In Britain, because of anti German feelings, the German Shepherd dog breed was renamed to Alsatian. This carried on into the 60's and 70's. I first saw a German Shepherd in 1970 but, when I asked what breed it was, its owner called it an Alsatian. It wasn't until the mid 80's that I learned their true name.
I was raised in a small town where before the world wars, people spoke fluent German because this community was filled with German and Swiss immigrants, me being 5th gen Swiss. My town was Berlin, obviously named after the capital of Germany, but we changed the pronunciation of the town, and no one spoke German ever again, the language in my family died with my great grandfather. It sucks cause I didn’t even know my own roots until last year. Me and my father are planning to visit Germany and Switzerland next year to visit our roots and maybe even some distant relatives.
Berlin, WI? I spent part of my childhood in Ripon and I learned later about Berlin changing pronunciation to BER-lin instead of ber-LIN. That's very cool! @@Rose-hh1zy
Fun fact about the Spanish Flu. It likely wasn’t as deadly as we are taught. In med school you learn about iatrogenic harm (which is when the treatment of an illness is actually causing the issue), and the Spanish flu is the case example. In the western forces, Asprin was used to treat fever. Spanish flu caused fever and because of the fighting, fever was believed to not only be the deadly aspect, but also was the thing that incapacitated a soldier. So they were issuing huge doses of Asprin in order to combat fever. Well… overdose of Asprin causes fever… so many soldiers were getting fevers from Asprin overdose and then given more Asprin. But when they died of fever, (since that’s what kills you with the flu) they were chalked up as Spanish flu deaths as well. It’s literally impossible to gauge how many deaths were from Asprin and how many from the Spanish flu, but the lethality rate was significantly less than thought. Not to mention battlefield and wartime conditions in general aren’t the best for treating regular flu outbreaks and this likely caused a more severe spread and therefore more Asprin use. Doses you can find in military medical records are sometimes 100x higher than the LD50 known today.
I get your point, and I know doctors are scientists not sociologists, but DUUUUUDE. You must realize that we’re still in a potential pandemic “era,” and SARS regional epidemics have been busting out throughout the 21st century at a rate that makes me assume we aren’t done with this yet. I get the gist of your story - the “cure” could be worse than the disease. But if you know any non-scientists, you know that people conflate the deadliness of a disease to the individual with the spread of the disease as a system. The Flu Epidemic of 1917* was just as deadly as we thought from a public health perspective. I think you intentionally planted a seed to distrust COVID vax and treatment! I do not understand scientists who fight the social studies like this. We’re out here trying to teach people to listen to doctors, doctors are telling people that “woke history is lies.” Do you know why history changed so much? Scientific evidence!!! We use the tools you all give us to vastly improve accuracy in the story of our past, but then our historic truth challenges your wealth and you like your social status, so fuck everybody else, right? *I am assuming you are a racist-leaning person, and most people you meet professionally will as well. You know better and I should not even have to hint at why “Spanish Flu” is a deranged name to use in 2024. Pull yourself together. And please remember that your MD only covers medical science. You are a good memorizer, but you’ll need to read a lot more to learn how to use your MD knowledge in historic analysis, and when/where to appropriately share that.
18:03 That is actually a picture of the Canadian soldier Private Robert Lindsay Rogers. The reason he is smiling in that photo is because he survived getting shot in the neck by a german sniper.
The Christmas truce is really wholesome but also sad to me. They were all having fun and playing games together for a day but then went straight back to fighting each other a few days later probably killing some that just a few days ago, they were just talking and laughing with each other.
A lot of the soldiers were rotated out or reassigned to other locations. Their superiors anticipated that a lot of them would refuse to fight men that they had befriended. Look up the song by Sabaton. And the Sabaton History episode about it as well.
Well, I'm 31 now. When I was in school, the only foreign language offered was Spanish. Mind you, the school system I came out of is absolute garbage. It's rare to meet a bilingual American in most of this country because it's not used, and if it is it's Spanish. Mainly Central American Spanish, so it's not even the same as what you would hear in Europe.
@@extantfellow46The problem with that is that German words and names are pronounced exactly how they're written yet people still fuck up because english is legit confusing to pronounce itself
WW1 has such a creepy feeling. It’s hard to describe. I think the inner empath in me envisions how horrifying it must’ve been. All wars are scary, but imagine being in the first one to use tanks, automatics, chemical weapons. Not only was the war itself a mindf**k, but the weapons of war were probably a mental hurdle of its own. It just seems like such a dark and scary time compared to other wars.
idk about other countries but in canada people were running to go enlist when Britain joined (our status as an independent state was only really in between the 2 wars) a bunch of young boys pretended to be of age to be eligible. they had no idea the horrors they were getting themselves into, the torture of chemical weapons for one. thankfully plastic surgery being revolutionized helped some but even then ptsd was so unknown then too.
Dave Munger has a good video on the Gavrilo Princip thing. It's basically a myth. While Princip was actually waiting on that corner, he hadn't called off the assassination (actually, the mistake was that Franz Ferdinand's driver had accidentally turned down the original route where Princip was, instead of the new one) and he wasn't getting a sandwich (which wasn't even a part of the local cuisine at the time). That story apparently comes from a novel, and people misinterpreted the fictional aspect of that story as historical fact.
I went to school with a lot of Armenians. A lot of their families went through the genocide. During a history when they mention it, almost half of all Armenian students raised their hands for having a family member part of the genocide.
Regarding the hound of Mons - in Iraq and Afghanistan, packs of stray dogs would eat the dead or severely wounded. If the locals/insurgents didn't collect the bodies, which was often enough as they were usually in sectors of fire or assumed to be booby-trapped, then the stray dogs regarded them as a large meal. Soldiers who found themselves separated during patrols for a significant time (yes, soldiers occasionally screw up that bad) would occasionally report being stalked by the feral packs.
What a terrifying thought.....trained for war. Trained to be stalked by the human enemy.... Gets stalked in the desert by wild packs of dogs.....insane.
Ive watched a few of his videos by now and its crazy the number of times he's said he didnt know what a word was and its a common english word that any native english speaker would know and my first thought is, how young is this guy and how can someone avoid coming across these words for so many years?
5:43 serbian nationalist, the organisation was cleverly named "mlada bosna" or "bosnian youth" but it was controlled by serbian government. Pro tip: If the guy can't even pronounce the name of the country properly, you maybe shouldn't shouldn't trust him with everything he says
Hey love the iceberg but USS Cyclops was not a submarine. It was a type of ship called a Collier. It is often associated with the Bermuda triangle (which is a load of nonsense b/c ships sink everywhere all the time in higher rates than there anyway). It's believed it may have been a victim of a process called ore liquifaction which has sunk and continues to sink ore carriers to this day.
A little tidbit about the scuttling of the High Seas Fleet at Scapa Flow is that the British admirality was somewhat happy that the ships were ruined as it settled most debates about what to do with the ships.
Considering the sheer amount of goddamn politics it takes to decommission a semi-modern warship I believe it. The US navy still keeps a lot of battleships around for this exact reason. Although they do get some use as floating artillery divisions.
I can’t remember where I learned this, but I remember reading reports of British pilots spotting an unidentified plane in the sky on multiple occasions. A few of these pilots said the person flying the plane was a woman dressed as a Valkyrie.
First, are you related to the guy who plays in Aether Realm? Second, I wonder if you might be thinking of the Night Witches, a Russian unit of female pilots who flew outdated biplanes to do silent bomber runs in the Second War.
56:04 When it comes to the crucified soldier, one of the biggest key witnesses was a man by the name William Metcalf. An American fighting in the Canadian army and winner of the Victoria Cross ( England's highest military medal) who came across the body of the crucified soldier with his men first hand, stating he was close enough to see the Maple Leaf badges on the man's uniform and watching another man checking out the body. I think it's interesting that a VC winner had witnessed it first hand is all.
@@ColtTheWolf It happend often, men got trapped in barbed wire, they got thrown around and pinned by shells too. I cant see a situation where German soldiers feel the need to waste time and crucify a Canadian, the odds of the soldier being recovered would be high since death from crucifixion takes a while, then theyd have to contend with accusations of war crimes.
@@dosidicusgigas1376 Yep. Nobody has that sort of energy and there's no way commanding officers wouldn't stop that sort of behaviour. Especially given the religious nature of people those days, there's no way they'd be able to do that, it'd be seen as a mockery of Christianity and massively demoralising. Also consider the mud. How would they be able to hoist up while sliding around in such deep mud without being shot? They'd have to leave the trench and stand upright in plain sight of snipers to lift a crucified man up. Logistically and physically impossible. Your view makes sense, I agree with it entirely.
31:40 hold on... You... Haven't based this entire video off of Wikipedia have you...? I'd hope not, they don't like primary sources there, and according to historians, you know, the people who's profession this is, primary sources are the most important concerning history. So uh, I really, REALLY, hope, you didn't just use the wikis for this. 😂
Amazing video! If you were interesting in continuing this series further, I think a Cold War Mysteries and Obscurities iceberg would be very interesting!
There was a story that a russian soldier got locked up inside a food basement of Osowiec Fortress(the same from the attack of the dead man) and stayed there for nearly 9 years when some polish people found him, because he lived in darkness for years, when leaving the basement, the sunlight blinded him, at least according to the polish newspaper of the time
9:37 Into the machine, Sly 1 14:15 This poster caused a lot of controversy with German-Americans who were a large minority in America 15:57 Pokémon black and white 17:00 Looking at footage of shell shock makes me wanna cry 22:44 Sly 1 Casino music 27:54 Sly 1 Ruby’s swamp 35:55 Sly 3 Holland theme, fitting 42:50 Pokémon black and white music 44:28 more Pokémon music 46:30 Pokémon music 49:19 Sly 3 Dog fighting music 54:30 aww she’s adorable :D 55:08 Sly 1 Ruby’s swamp 1:09:40 Sly 1 swamp music 1:18:47 Sly 3 Lemonade competition
What I think is really interesting is that there is documentation of civil war veterans fighting in World War 1. The quick changes in technology and war tactics must have been insane to see.
@@thatlittlevoice6354it’s actually possible being that even at 13yo at the youngest, who made a career out of the military would be high ranking NCO/Officers if commissioned. That’s also assuming at the tail end of the Civil War
@@thatlittlevoice6354 yes 50 year difference but there are some books on these guys that really did see both sides. I’ll snag some titles if you’re interested. I think they are on audio books too if you’re working or whatever.
About the cyanide, it is volatile and sometimes neutralized by sugars, that may be sufficient to explain why Rasputin didn't die because of the poisoned cakes.
@@Didymus20X6languages are more fun when we make mistakes imo. When the situation isn't serious, some pretty hilarious things can ensure. "If my grandmother had wheels, she would've been a bike"
Someone who should have really been on the list is Jiroemon Kimura. He was a Japanese man who was the last living World War I veteran. He was born in 1897 and served towards the end of the war in 1918 in the Imperial Japanese Army, leaving in 1921. He died in 2013 at the age of 116. Not only was he the very last verifiable living WWI veteran but he was also the last verifiable living man born in the 19th century and the oldest verifiable man in history when he died. This means that the last living veteran from a war that happened nearly 106 years ago died not even 11 years ago. Mind blowing to think about.
39:41 My great great grandfather served in World War I and he told my grandmother which told me that every night he had to put all the covers on top of his face in the barracks like in the sleeping quarters area, so the rats wouldn’t run all over his face, and he did it until he died
1:14:00 Drawing can be like a form of therapy. My most disturbing sketches have been from times when my mind was in a really dark place. Its almost like journaling, it gets it out of your mind and onto paper. Helps you process emotions.
33:26 footage of the largest payload to be detonated in WW1. The Messines Ridge. It can be seen on Google Maps still to this day, known as the Spanbroekmulen crater, and was made from an underground tunnel full of explosives, dug by British forces
I would've loved to see the Repeated Isonzo offensives, Albert Mayer/Jules-André Peugeot (the Skirmish at Joncherey), Brewster Body Shield, and the Compagnies della morte/Farina Armor in this list.
The guy smiling with shell shock, wasnt actually experiencing ptsd from what i've read. He was talking to an officer in front of him when a sniper hit him in the neck. The bullet went straight through his neck without causing major damage and killed the officer in front of him. Hes sitting on the ground because he had to wait for 8 hours to be evacuated at night, and hes smiling because 1: he just barely made it out alive and 2: because thats what people did when on camera at that time. His eyes look weird because the cameras were bad in dim light back then.
Pvt Lindsay rogers of the 40th and 25th Canadian infantry battalion. He isn’t she’ll shocked, but this guy refuses to correct his misinformation until he sees a source (didn’t need one until someone corrects him, but go off) he’s smiling for the camera, as it was a big deal to be photographed in that era, and smiling was era appropriate. He’s also probably happy he’s not dead. But the video creator didn’t even know he was Canadian, let alone the actual story, yet refused to clarify. What an ass.
Just watched the WW2 Iceberg Video. Great Stuff! I would say the video is perfectly composed. I would've guessed you had at least a million subscribers judging by the video quality.
Although its true WWI doesn't get as much recognition as WWII today, that wasn't always true, especially in the 50s and 60s. Wars are remembered less and less as the generations go on. Eventually WWII will fade and people will be talking about Vietnam more. The last WWI veteran died over a decade ago but there are still thousands of WWII veterans alive so we can still get a sense of WWII first hand. However, they are dying fast. Same thing most likely happened with the Revolutionary war, Civil war, and so on. We all get lost to time eventually.
Couldn’t get past tier 1, I understand you’re going for a more surface level approach with your topics but you’re getting basic details wrong. There was no sandwich in the archduke story, that’s a myth developed recently.
My fav part of the Lawrence of Arabia story is when the Brit’s and French respected his agreement and gave the bedouins independence and we had a peaceful Middle East…… oh wait
cmon man you can't say Tandey is anywhere near responsible for ww2 happening, there were plenty of axis high command that would've had ww2 happen regardless, that's just horribly rude to the guy for sparing someone in a horrible bloody war. If you really NEED to drum up drama to keep view then just say it's tragically ironic or something. jesus
18:39 I was gonna subscribe as soon as the video finished but when you made a They Might be Giants reference, I had to stop what I was doing and subscribe. Keep up the good work, buddy.
@@VisibleLeon he sounds like a young man that is trying to make his mark in this harsh circus we call life. He may make a mistake every now and then. He may get the facts a little squirrelly sometimes. If he is given the right criticism, he will probably do better next time.
@@matthewcochran3325 Dawg he gets the most basic thing wrong like the false picture of the Associate of Mata Hari. In this picture was literally Crown Prince William the third.
I really enjoyed this video, but the pronunciations are killing me. As an English and French speaker (with very limited German), it hurt 😂 I listened to it without constantly watching, and had to double take what was meant by "yaprees".
Out of all wars in human history, WWI was the most brutal. Even if WWII killed 5x more people and the Vietnam War had guerrilla warfare, nothing comes close to the horrors inside of those trenches.
WWII condemned the human race to the never ending looming possibility of all existing life on earth being erased in a slow and horrifying decay. No amount of human suffering can truly account for the actual eldritch horror WWII created.
I remember seeing the story of rasputin and how after they retrieved his body they initially deemed him dead from the gunshots and found water in his lungs as if he was still breathing when he was dumped into the water, making them question if he drowned rather than bled out
@tanman5123 17:57 is actually private Robert Lindsay Rogers , from the canadian 25th battalion , in that picture, rogers was reportedly talking to a Sargent when a sniper shot at Robert hiting him in the neck but going straight through and killing the Sargent, robert survived the shot, and in that photo its just him and a few comrades helping them with his wound , hes just happy that hes alive, he survived the wound and got back into the front, but he was killed later in the war when charging hostile positions.
Some extra details about Rasputin's death: So Rasputin in proper Russian fashion was a raging alcoholic, to the extent where his liver was so damaged it couldn't produce a specific chemical that is key in the process of cyanide killing you. It is said he took enough cyanide to kill any number of large animals depending on who's telling the story, but he definitely had an absolutely brutal dose. After this failed as was mentioned his to be assassin shot him in the chest three times, and so Rasputin did the only reasonable thing in such a situation and attacked the assailant with his bare hands, and used the surprise concussion to run out of the room. I believe it was actually a river in which he was dropped after a short chase, though the exact details of this part elude me. Now this man has survived enough cyanide to overthrow a small government, and came back to fight after three bullets to the chest so the killers, now genuinely worried he's somehow connected with the devil took the time to find his dead body and make sure he really is dead. To their comfort they found him washed out on the side of the river, and they chose to burn the body, probably to destroy evidence. To their horror shortly after they lit the flame this absolute monster of a man sits up and just stares at them. Truthfully he was dead, but it is theorized that the heat from the fire caused some muscles in Rasputin's body to contract and he stiffened just in such a way he sat up from the laying position he was in. The following is just a pure theory on my side, but: I bet the killers were scared shitless when they saw him sit up and just sit there unphased in the flames.
1:19:19 Boomerangs, if made and used right, actually rarely come back to the user. That is a myth that's perpetuated by media because it makes them more interesting. They do have a tendency to bounce, but they almost never come back to the user. It could be the bouncing which discouraged the folks in Australia from doing anything with the idea, because it could still bounce back towards them. It's just not going to fly back like everyone wants you to think.
It was called black hand, and it was an ultranationalist serb group. The rights serbs were being targeted in the Austro-Hungarian empire. The previous leader of the Austro-Hungarian empire had made a song dedicated to the he liked are coming song.
You did not settle - You won! You didn't conquer - You liberated! You didn't take revenge - You mourned! You are not gone - You are resurrected! You are their nightmare - You are our hero! 🇷🇸
Hahaha I don’t mind it necessarily but I completely understand this comment. It’s way more jarring when he has one of his discord people take over narration for a section and then he comes back with that voice.
For everyone wondering the shell shocked solder isn't true its a lie he wasn't british he was a Canadian solder form nova scotia and here the truth of his story Robert Lindsey Rogers was born on March 9th 1882 in Yarmouth Nova Scotia, being the only son of Mr and Mrs Joseph Rogers. He enlisted with the 40th Battalion, then moved to the 25th Battalion, Canadian Expeditionary Force, (also known as the “Nova Scotia Rifles” or the “Raiding Battalion”). After recuperating from his initial gun shot wound, Rogers was sent back to the front and was killed during an assault on German positions at the Battle of Hill 70 on August 16th 1917. His casualty card states he was killed instantly by a burst of machine gun fire. He was buried in an unofficial cemetery simply known as the “25th Canadian Cemetery”, which is in the vicinity of “Cite St. Eduoard” (I’m guessing this refers to Eglise St. Edouard which is a church in the city of Lens, however I cannot find any solid information to where exactly Cite St. Edouard is). Because the exact location of his grave is unknown, his body was never moved to an official Commonwealth military cemetery, and instead his name was inscribed on the Vimy memorial, along with the names of over 11 168 Canadian soldiers who were killed in the First World War and have no known grave. Robert Rogers was never diagnosed with shell shock, and there is no evidence in his service file of him experiencing any abnormal behaviour or shell shock like symptoms. He most definitely saw terrible things, and he may have been traumatised by them, but it is wrong to assume he is shell shocked simply because of the way he looks in a single photo. Unfortunately people remember him as a disturbed and traumatised man, instead of remembering him as Robert Lindsey Rogers, a young man and a son, who paid made the ultimate sacrifice in one of the most horrific wars in history.
Shellshock is basically ptsd, from what I’ve read ptsd “didn’t exist” back then and shell shock was assumed to essentially be what we’d see as cte from explosions. Even with my lack of experience from being shot in the head I can guess you’re initial reaction only seconds later would still be a form of ptsd
The reason why the turks kept the name of Constantinople for so long was because it gave the Ottoman Empire legitimacy to the Kayser -i Rum (Caesar of Rome) title plus it was an easier way to integrate the greek populace that way, after the sultanate was abolished there really was no reason to keep the name. (Those are the main reasons to the name shenanigans)
the schlieffen plan's reasons for failure is somewhat innacurate: it was innitially developed for a post franco prussian war, war (intenional double). von schlieffen wasn't even in high command during ww1 and the plan was executed far too meekly. on top of that the french army and nation had greatly modernized compared to the france von schlieffen planned to deal with. source: The Utility of Force: The Art of War in the Modern World, by general Rupert Smith. for those interested: bela kiss is mentioned in the war museum in budapest and if i recall his uniform (or 1 like it anyway) is on display.
