Reconstruction of ancient technology. Ancient Egyptian bird shaped vessel (produced circa 5100 years ago) was used as a prototype for this experiment. As far as we are aware, no one attempted to conduct it previously. Attention! Alternative history experts and fans of "Ancient Alien" and "Ancient Machining" technologies - we suggest you keep away and take it easy. Subscribe to our channel: clck.ru/Jnmvo ⚠ Olga Vdovina and ANTROPOGENEZ.RU invite you to back a new experiment: creating a diorite vessel with the use of ancient technologies and primitive tools: antropogenez.ru/diorite_vessel/ Become a patron: www.patreon.com/join/antropogenez_world
The problem is not that one can do that by hand. The problem is to produce them in volumes and with precision. A boutique car manufacturer can produce 5 unique sports cars, all manufactured by hand. So it can be done. The problem is the mass manufacturing of 100.000 cars a year. Or 30.000 high precision stone vases with equal wall thickness or 2 million stones for a pyramid in a overseeable time.
I must say that Olga and the guys destroyed my delusions about ancient Egypt, for which I am very grateful. Been sharing the videos, with enthusiasm, wherever and whenever I can. All the love, and Greetings from Serbia!
That proof a concept by this woman is nonsense. Yes, you could mine an ore load with a spoon. Feasible? yes. Economical? no. Probable? certainly not. Could you carve a 1200t megalith with a small stone ball and (infinite amounts) copper chisel? Feasible? yes. Economical? no. Probable? certainly not. Using half a year to create a stone vase is bollocks. A society and economy doesn't work that way. Who would pay a half-year salary for a stone vase? The king and some dudes in his administration. Who bought the other 30.000 vases at half-year salary? Think about it...
@@DilbertMuc Lol why are you even here ? 😂 Where are you getting your facts from ? What makes you think any of these artifacts were sold on the street? That too for a short time? Typical armchair pessimist. Does no work and criticizes anyone who does actual work
@@SF-li9kh There are some 30.000 very delicate stone vases in the Cairo Museum, some 2.5 million huge blocks in just one pyramid on the Gizeh plateau, huge 100 feet deep shafts into the underground like the Osiris shaft, 200 huge megaliths in Gobekli Tepe and surroundings and then scientists tell us that they all were done with primitive stone tools, bones and some copper chisels just because some experiments could replicate the work with unlimited time. In another video the woman was busy round the clock for a whole year for just one crude vase. It's like cleaning the road to Rome with a toothbrush and then claim that this is how it was done because someone could do it with a toothbrush. A society does not work like that. Never had people more free time available like today, much much less in ancient times. The keyword is process productivity and that's why it was certainly not done the way it is replicated in these videos. Even Phoenicians and Romans had quickly invented high-tech machines of their time to rapidly increase productivity, they invented cranes, advanced tools, hydraulics and pneumatics for all different tasks. Some of them can't even be replicated today, yet they can be admired in Rome. Time is money, then and today.
Would you say her amazing immense dedication, patience, and skill are rare? Is so, her rare and unique skillet was only able to replicate 80% of the ancient specimen. Now find 100,000 people with this rare skillset out of a population of 3 million and have them build a pyramid. Nobody knows who or how they did it.
@@justmyopinion8395 - Rare today maybe because those skills are are mostly replaced by modern tooling and machining and the demand for such skills and items is low. Perfectly reasonable to suggest that the skills are not exceptional or rare in ancient times. There was nobody making or watching youtube videos or nearly all the activities around today. So what were the people doing? ...Whatever the Pharaoh said. I see no reason for 100,000 people to have such skills. As little as a few dozen people may have the skills needed and the rest of the labourers just did the grunt work. None of the stones in the pyramids are shaped like this example and most stones in the Pyramids are not shaped more than a flat face on one side or a few sides. Also less than one percent of the stones are granite and they are internal. The limestone used is far softer and easier to work than this example.
This is what the Internet is supposed to be used for, opening minds and educating people about our rich and interesting past, not spreading bullshit about make believe civilizations and aliens...Don't have a lot of money but I sent $20 to Olga so we can see the Diorite vessel....Please don't stop what you' all are doing...love your channel.
I agree the Ancient alien's people and bullshit alternative historians like Graham Hancock are only about making money from book sales and video sales to fools who are desperate to believe, no wonder we are burdened with religion, there are so many deluded fools out there...
Whilst I take your point about opening minds,there is far too much evidence that there were and still are massive areas of civilizations buried in the amazon ,that is simply true.The pyramids were constructed for a reason ,not as tombs but as something completely different.There is no doubt that there was a global civilization over 12000 years ago all over the planet,and no doubt they knew things we have forgotten today.Aliens not required.
awesome demonstration! Marble rates a 3 on the Mohs hardness scale, and is considered a “soft” stone - hence its common use in sculpture. It would be nice to see this done with a 7-8 on the Mohs scale to really show how easy it is.
beautiful to see the smile in her face while she DESTROYS all alien theories just using some stones lmao. please continue with you amazing work, the world needs more people like you guys
Oh, the ridicule! Simple mind's tool to obscure its inadequacies in face of the unknown! Funny how Galileo faced the same ostracism, yet his name is remembered - not those who laughed at him. Funny how Bretz faced met the same laughter, being called "catastrophist", only to be recognized and awarded Penrose medal for contribution in geology field decades later. Funny how both father and son Alvarez faced the same resistance from geological community in the 80s when bringing forth the theory of meteorite causing dinosaur extinction - "So where's the crater?", academia asked with sarcasm. Ten years later Chicxulub crater was found, proving Alvarez (father now passed away) right, and all them nay-sayers wrong. Before you laugh any idea off, just remember - gradualism used to be water-tight, too. Right until someone proved it wrong (Bretz). Same goes for geocentrism. Everyone remembers who brought the truth to the light. Not who resisted it like life depended on it. Keep an open mind. Question. Research.
@@AkarZaephyr a little different than claiming 'Humans couldn't possibly have done it so, -insert pseudoscience-... Obviously they can as we see the work they did in ancient times. No lost civilization or high tech needed. Just good old ancient ingenuity.
@@swirvinbirds1971 Yes, I agree that explaining everything with aliens where more earthly explanations are still far more possible seems too far fetched. I've seen examples of how a crew of a dozen people can transport really heavy stuff using nothing but the lever rule, and counter-intuitively, it was even easier to transport such heavy objects uphill. So there's definitely a lot of ancient ingenuity. But there are still a few leftover ancient artifacts that seem to bear marks of tools that can't just be explained by anything else than advanced drilling technology. At least that's what a few people like Dunn or Foerster claim - I want to see those for myself before I form my own opinion.
@@AkarZaephyr let me ask you something... Do you think high tech tooling would just appear out of nowhere in the archeological record? Where are their mines to make these tools? Where are their oil wells? Why didn't they use resources needed to make industrialized tooling? Where is their technical progression in the archeological record?
Seriously had someone scoff at this and say “yeah but it’s not granite”. Kind of person that wouldn’t believe Egyptians built the pyramids unless someone built an exact replica of the pyramids using ancient tools.
Fantastic! Why do people underestimate our ancestors abilities to produce artifacts? And the absolutely dogged determination, perhaps because we have become arrogant without and basis for that arrogance, we all stand on the shoulders of giants.
No one is arguing that the poorly hand made vases can't be reproduced she did a good job making a poorly made vase. It's the vases with high precision and flat planes measured in microns that can't be reproduced. Arrogance at the highest level in this channel
Or because she is working with a 3 hardness material and not a 7 or 8? As well, I didn't see the mention how many hours, broken, tools, materials, etc it used to make this hand sized vase. As well it wasn't as precise looking but darn good. Now why was older egypt, 3000bc better tooled, better built, and higher quality, than anything after it?
@@temptemp9475 yeah because people that did it in the past shared knowledge passed from generation to generation. We have been working with stones long long before we even have existed as a specie 3.2 million years ago to be specific with our ancestor homo habilus. Does it take too much energy to stop being stupid ?
I've only just come across this channel and I'm simply in awe of the dedication in these pieces. I wish I could give you a thumbs up for every minute spent grinding.
Brilliant!, How it was done for sure. Just a few rocks, sand and bone. And the same smarts our ancient ancestors had. Thanks for all the work to show it!
A 7 month project... My god. Hats off. I have watched 3 full ads to this video to support you. Hope the small revenue helps. Stumbling accross your channel is amazing. I'm most impressed with the videos of this sculptor artist. People will be more impressed by such accurate work than crude work. Hats off
This is fantastic! You are doing a great service to humanity (and the legacy of ancient Egyptian craftsmen) by debunking the alien and lost civilisation claims. You are awesome!
with time anything can be achieved...now tell me they put 2.5million stones at 4min intervals, for 20yrs, non stop, no breaks, no errors, to build just the pyramid zero of the ramps, tools, waiting for issues like floods, disasters, famine...and more.
Truly incredible. This is an amazing project and I hope it helps people see the power of human diligence. Just because its hard doesn't mean aliens did it, it means it was REALLY HARD and thats all.
Wondeful job ! Patience, perseverance and skills all together at the highest level. Sad thing is you just got thousands of views. The others got millions each time they speak of aliens or ancient lost civilisations. What a pity
Can we please get her a Ted talk or some podcast time? Absolutely amazing, Olga, many thanks for spending the time to make such a contribution to beauty and historical knowledge.
@@pranays it's on display in a museum, unchartedx had a clip and a picture showing it in his vase video. It's blue or blueish in color, with a hole in the side of it
The thin walls mentioned by Petrie are of a open bowl of diorite (no 4716) The one uncharted x shows is thin at the widest point, if you freeze frame the walls rapidly thicken Though her diorite vase is thinner and more consistent than ancient examples.
What everybody needs to remember while watching this channel is that these artifacts were created before the industrial revolution, and wasn't from a time when the manufacturing of goods was done in a factory and tools were mechanized so everything could be done in the blink of an eye, but rather from a time when technology was limited and people were just concerned with getting the job done at all.
Facinating. I wonder how long a truly expert craftsman with specific to purpose designed tools (rather than creating from scratch) would take? Thank You for the learning opportunity.
The tools of the time they are producing would need to be made from scratch all the time. When working on stuff like granite, if you were to cut the side of one 2m x 2m block, you would loose, over 20lbs of copper to abrasion alone.
It is possible, but the issue arises when 40,000 intact granite and diorite vases alone are found in Djoser’s pyramid at Saqqura. Not to mention the many other cracked and damaged ones, along with mm thickness of the vessel’s walls. The time required using these primitive methods becomes an issue as well. I’m not saying aliens built them, but maybe people living in Egypt long before what is considered presently.
@@thomas6558 Some people who are rich like to prove to everyone how rich they are, even by doing things that don't make sense. That is a legitimate mystery, but it doesn't have anything to do with aliens or mysterious technology.
Wow… if this is 100 percent genuine which I do believe it is then your hard work is absolutely phenomenal and you deserve much more recognition, worldwide.
This is fantastic!! I understand that Olga is currently making one out of diorite, i am looking forward to that! There are many ways to skin a cat. While this may not be exactly how the ancients did this, but im sure its close. The biggest mystery about these to me is the thinness of the walls of the ancient vessels. How thin are the walls of this vessel!? Bravo! Science at work!!
this is legendary, what an amazing display of craftsmanship and determination, and disproving all the alien and other nonsense as one person, i truly admire you
Awesome amazing beautiful work. I love it. We have forgotten so much more than we know now, just look at how much better the antique looks just goes to show how awesome these ancients were
Great video. it takes great perseverance to create a single item over 7 mouths but it is well worth for the understanding of practical techniques. do you think it would have taken as long to produce historically or do you think they would have been able to shorten the production process over time?
Thanks for the comment! With a high level of skill and a reasonable division of labor in the workshop, time for production will be reduced several times I think
@@torporvasflam8670 perfect comment. As a teenager my great uncle (now over a 100 years) was a carpenter. The small broken shards of wood became small practice pieces for sculpting contours. Larger slabs that couldn't become furniture, became spoons, bird cages and such. The starting point of a piece can very well be refuse (waste) material from others.
Amazing work and very well documented. This is proper experimental archeology. I attended a seminar on experimental archaeology and tried to manufacture a stone axe, which was fun, but this is on a completely different level.
The patience, the meticulousness, the work ethic required to complete this has me absolutely in awe. A person who can do this can do anything. It's not like the original workers: they were working with the best tools available. She's choosing to ignore the fast way and voluntarily putting in 100X the amount of effort just to improve our archaeological knowledge. Incredible.
Videos such as this show whereby stone can be worked by hand using "primitive" tools. With that said. The fabrication of items - stone or otherwise - represented an entire economy in ancient Egypt. As an example. Egyptologists have unearthed underground caches over the years of mummified animals for votive offerings and as burial items - literally millions of them. Now imagine the number of workers devoted to the creation of such + those who supplied the raw materials = and it becomes apparent this was an industry. So the Pharaohs employed a caste of artisans who in exchange for food and housing fabricated things for them be it tombs or stone artifacts or jewelry etc.. Similarly these things were being made for other than the Pharaohs so that these people were employed across Egypt. They need not worry about their next meal or where they lived as that was provided for. That allowed them to focus upon their work and improve their skills with each passing generation.
@@varyolla435 and if you've ever worked with stone, you know how much there is to learn about things like how hard you strike, the angle, which edges to use, the right kinds of stone, spotting flaws in the stone, etc. The ancient cutters had older cutters to tell and show them all the stuff she's had to learn from experience. So her accomplishment is all the more impressive. We also don't realise how old these stone production centres were. We tend to think of these things as modern inventions. And then you think about the Lake Turkana blade 'factory' that was dated to 2+ million years old. All these creatures sitting there, creating thousands of stone tools over the generations... and they weren't even human yet. Who knows how old some of the techniques used were, how much they'd been refined by thousands of generations of expertise? I think we'd find that their skill, by the time you got to ancient Egypt was damned near superhuman. Like, they'd be able to do stuff with a simple round hammer that would never occur to us, but would be obvious to them. We lost a lot of that knowledge when we became a machine culture, which is why I think so many people find it hard to believe these things were done by normal humans using their hands and simple tools.
Beautiful work. This took the better part of a year to complete , imagine how long it took for pre-dynastic people to carve the 40,000+ diorite vases/bowls found beneath the pyramid of Djoser? Many with wall thicknesses of 2-3 millimeters. Patience and dedication were obviously highly esteemed characteristics.
My gosh!!!! Amazing to see that. If you have all the time of the world then you can do anything you want. Great video! 👍 please pass my congratulations to Olga who made this amazing piece of work! One question though: did she manage to drill small holes for the eyes and the sides of the bird, on the final picture I do not see the holes compared to the original.
Wow, wow, wow, wow ... wow. Thank you. Thank you for showing us that our ancestors made great stuff that lasted because the great stuff they created took a great deal of time, effort, thinking, skill and patience. So wonderful what you have done .... good bye ancient aliens ... hello great great grandparents ...
wow! this artifact , you recreated totally. Even the amazing, thin walled ones, may be possible if more labour, time, and further refinement of technique is available. the eqyptians had hundreds of years on their hands, hundreds of people who were probably fed and taken care of by the state, so that they could devote themselves to such crafts. The rulers were powerful. their religion was so overwhelming, both factors drove their quest for excellence. they were very prosperous for long periods of time, and stable. all these helped. May be there are some aspects of their work we cannot understand, but those have to be identified only after all other explanations fail.
This is great to actually see something tried to be recreated, I'd really like to see the same done with the truely huge stone moving, not the 100 volunteers in a field with a 30ton block but the 1000ton stuff. Also while this is very commendable and clearly it was done, albeit with a more crude result I feel the fact it 7.5 months of full time work only goes to prove this is perhaps NOT the way it was done! This is where all the 'ancient lost tech' arguments come from, for all our certainty of how they did things no-one has really provided a good example. A good start for sure and worthy of more trials. Please keep the content coming.
I'm a "fan" of the ancient machining and have to say, what you did was brilliant. It proves that you can make similar or even identical quality of the ancient stone works like the ones in Egypt - given time and expertise. If you can prove that it's possible to do similar thing with diorite (which I noticed is currently in progress), and have it validated by experts that have examined the Egyptian stone works (such as Christopher Dunn), I will rest my case, perhaps even most "fans" (probably not the hardcore ones) of the ancient machining theory out there.
Thank you! We all were once fans of Santa Claus. Regarding "expert that have examined the Egyptian stone works" Chris Dunn, I recommend this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HQi4yql7Ysg.html
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths this is very interesting. I wonder if Chris Dunn has watched this video? It will be interesting to see what he has to say (or not) about it. However, if I may suggest : when creating these debunking videos, it would probably better to not put statements or nuances that make fun or ridicule those that believe in other theories. I don't know what kind of rude or silly comments you've received from the fans of "pseudo/fringe scientists" but you can prove to be better than them. Also, not all believers of the "pseudoscience" are ignorant - me for example still looks at the fact presented and evaluate them, albeit not as good as the experts (which is why I rely on them to verify the facts), and given better facts, I would not hesitate to say that I was wrong. I certainly believe that Chris Dunn is also a man of reason, and when given your experimentation results, along with the undeniable facts, will not hesitate to say he was wrong. I believe I saw a video where he also said the same thing. Anyways, keep up the good work!
@@cooljosh2307 i sent Mr. Dunn this article: antropogenez.ru/fileadmin/user_upload/7_seventh_of_Petrie_21_07_2020.pdf and he promised to respond. It was early January. The authors of the videos about "impossible spiral grooves" pretend that our video does not exist.
Great demonstration, I don't know why people find it so hard to believe that humans made these things without power tools. Just like how waves can erode solid rock over time, humans can do the same with some basic hand tools.
In these brilliant and laborious demonstrations you not only clearly and irrefutably illustrate our ancestors were every bit as smart as us, you also clearly illustrate the manner in which society developed, for example the guild system and its derivations; most excellent work!
I would love to see one of these sent to be measured accurately to see if all sides are within 1-3000th's of a inch, that would be the true test to see if it replicated those super precise vases found and there were thousands of them which makes it even crazier.
hey, great job, I'm still a big Alternative History fan, but this is the first time I've seen someone construct an amazing artifact using the tools of the day, I'll Definitely be watching more content.. great work👍👍
This is great but I see 2 problems with this: 1) it took 7 and a half months to produce one vase. That does not seem like a realistic effort that anyone would expend on one vase; but that’s debatable. 2) the vase is not hollowed it, it’s only bored to the size and shape of the drill being used. Is this how the ancient vases in question were- bored, not hollowed?
