MYTH-BUSTING INTAKES! DOES AN INTAKE ON A G20 M340i MAKE ANY POWER?!

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Hey Everyone,
In today's video, we're myth-busting intakes! As we said before, we want to be 100% honest with our testing... and today, we're being brutally honest. In this video, we will be doing 3 baseline runs and we will be averaging them together. Then, we will be doing 3 more runs with the intake installed. Now, to be transparent, the car was limiting power a little (perhaps torque limit?), so the test isn't 100% accurate, but I think this still shows a pretty accurate view of what to expect. Most people buy intakes for looks and the incredible sound and they know that there are typically minimal gains, so most of you won't be surprised by the results.
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@llkjjjss 3 года назад

This series should be called Brian looking for reasons to play with his new dyno lol

@davidbell6341 2 года назад

lmao

@MicahAnderson41 3 года назад

really wanna see high flow vs catless downpipe compared head to head with a tune

@varsity2845 Год назад

High flow Catted in my M340 was faster due to back pressure of the cats. Hard to believe I know but it was night/day difference when I went catless to AA Catted

@FastRedPonyCar Год назад

@@varsity2845 S5 Audi is the same way. Basically no power gain from catless unless running bigger turbo(s)

@deontesthill20 10 месяцев назад

Turbo cars do better with no back pressure so that’s false

@The_Diesel733 3 года назад

BMW airboxes are very well made for performance from factory so it's pointless to upgrade them unless you want it for the sound and the show factor

@patthonsirilim5739 Месяц назад

At factory power you get no gain what so ever the stock intake was design perfectly for the factory power level you may get a few couple of hp with drop in filter when you start flashing the engine but intake mods only come into play when your talking about big power mods like turbo swap and built motor.

@Just1MoreMod 3 года назад

Ahhhh, Transparency. It’s so refreshing to see. Props to Kies 👍🏼

@jpbredenkamp5091 3 года назад

This is such a cool series, I love it man!

@bmw_knight_f3052 3 года назад

Brother!! I been waiting for your videos to come out.. lol.. I like you input and you honest answers... love your dyno video bro. 😎👍

@TommyLGarage 3 года назад

Love this!! I need to come down for some product testing :)

@duncanmykocinher3831 3 года назад

Thanks Bryan you provide continually great content. Can't wait for my spoiler to arrive and oh this video made me buy this intake

@carsinourdna9388 3 года назад

Love to see your honesty, that is hard to find. great video.

@davidryans2232 3 года назад

Kies is freaking great - love the videos, Bryan

$@Cliffracer46$

@Cliffracer46 3 года назад

Thanks for the video Bryan! What about sport air filters? In my country intakes are illegal. I guess air filters don't add anything apart from a little sound right?

@osman3605 3 года назад

Hi We need more video on G01, specially the bm3 part on adjusting the exhaust sound, please

@rdbetta 3 года назад

You bro we needed this man THANKS 😊

@Flysohighx21 3 года назад

Just my opinion, you guys should have done one of the dyno runs with the hood closed for a real-life simulation. The intake is not really heating soaking as the hood is open and the fans are hitting that area. But nonetheless still a good test!

@munners0852 Год назад

I wouldn't agree, if the Dyno was doing draggy times the heat soak would be relevant. Once a car is up and moving the cooler outside air soon clears the heat in the engine bay around the intake. If anything the reading is probably less as the fan speed doesn't increase the faster the wheels are turning on the dyno. I could be wrong and the fan speed creates an air flow like you're going over 100mph.

@Timilias 3 года назад

Cool video, but I see one issue - you keep the hood open which allows more fresh air in. What makes the open intakes not good (safe for those that have closed - or at least semi-closed like MST design) is that they sit right above turbo, exhaust manifold and downpipe - which is a massive heatspot which is then trapped by the hood.

@richardzarate5250 6 месяцев назад

love this transparency 🔥🔥🔥

@Devinarde 3 года назад

Mythbust intercoolers next, please!!

@gabrianloarca6050 3 года назад

Closed box intake is better on the car. (B58 Specifically) My 340 heat soaks big time because the turbo and and exhaust manifold are on the same side as the intake causing the intake to suck up all the hot air while hood is closed. Closed box intake is the way to go.

@hassantalib3426 2 года назад

HEAT WRAP AND COAT THE DOWNPIPE.....THAT WAY HEAT ONLY HAS 1 PLACE TO GO......OUT THE EXHAUST ....PLUS THE BENEFITS THAT COME ALONG WITH WRAPPING IT....LESS HEAT THROUGHOUT THE ENGINE AND WIRE BAY PERIOD....MORE TURBO RESPONSE TIME AND POWER

@GodKing804 3 года назад

Now do N55 stock intercooler vs aftermarket. Does more flow mean a tiny bit more power?

@readmposter 3 года назад

Mythbust an intercooler! 🙏🏻

@scottroberts5529 3 года назад

Are you guys gonna do a boot mod ecu remap on ur next video on the m340

@glennbaz2 3 года назад

I must say any research I've seen there has never been enough gain to make the purchase and labor worth it.

@llkjjjss 3 года назад

After a stage two tune it will be worth it

@sggjose 3 года назад

Yeah, but that "WOOOOOOOSSHHHH" is totally worth it. LOL.

@rodgazinya 3 года назад

Definitely no labor costs if you have even the most basic mechanical knowledge

@prevaloir5362 3 года назад

I feel as if you plan to do a stage 1 or above tune you should just upgrade the intake pipe and that's all in terms of intakes.

@tonyv7589 3 года назад

Should do a test on a tuned car ,,3 runs stock box,,3 runs open intake ,,,tune plus boost may get more benifet from open intake?

@artesano58 3 года назад

Mate, it sounds better than my f80 M3, sounds amazing!

@bryans2790 3 года назад

What is the change in sound with the intake? Don't care much for additional hp.

@chingadazosmma101 3 года назад

I did my M335i's intake and immediately noticed loss of torque -even on MHD S2 - but better top end -As long as ambient temp is BELOW 70F- honestly the awesome intake noise and blow off are the main reason to keep it.

@ryanreich7635 3 года назад

Since it's X-drive could the T-Case clutches be slipping?

@valeriysyutkin4940 3 года назад

BMS intakes shows usually power lose due to it open design.Thats why I think all you need is a drop-in perfomance filter with a stockbox, and save your money for a full intake system. Thank you for your honest video. Much respect 👍

@richie9172 3 года назад

Thats what I did on my M2C, plus charcoal delete. Sounds is way better.

@dylan-nguyen 3 года назад

Сюткин Валерий mst is closed box but you do it for the sound anyway lol

@velhonen Год назад

@@dylan-nguyen Eventuri is closed as well.

@whazzlegaming3856 3 года назад

Great video!!!

@nicholasvonrhine6311 2 года назад

The factory setup is pretty good.

@sheharyarirfan 3 года назад

I think the gains would be amplified on a higher boost car. Say on E30 map. I would like a comparison on that instead of a stock car on low boost

@TheYung25 3 года назад

Do intercooler next!!!

@cryptojb1920 3 года назад

Brian, please upload the F30 spacers video!

@llkjjjss 3 года назад

My dude I'm glad I'm not the only one waiting on that

@fastbladeproductions7961 3 года назад

You should also drive around for 50 miles so the computer can readjust to new changes... then test it..

@jpbredenkamp5091 3 года назад

Fastblade Productions Agreed. The ECU won’t know to add more fuel to the additional air the engine is receiving right away. In fact the addition oxygen mixed with the SAME amount of fuel would throw off the Air Fuel ratio and likely decrease power. This would be amazing of Brian to test as well, the “myth” of does your ECU really adapt to the mods (which in my opinion, yes it certainly does)

@GodKing804 3 года назад

Or reset adaptions

@MitchM240 Год назад

That color is gorgeous, is that Dravit Grey?

@HassanEido1 Год назад

Should have logged wastegte duty cycle to see if the turbo had to work less to make the same boost. I think gains will show on the top end with boost around 22 24 psi

@corvairluver 3 года назад

Would love to see what an Eventuri does to an F80. I'm looking to get one for my F80 and would love to know what I could expect.

@cokemachine62590 3 года назад

It’s pretty much the same as any other intake. It’s just much more expensive cause carbon fiber

@ArtemDzhadzha 3 года назад

There was no myth :) intake only reduces the vacuum before the turbos. It makes a lot of sense for naturally-aspirated engines because of more airflow, but turbo engines build the same boost regardless of the intake. What it gives is a better response due to less restrictive airflow. With the intake, it's easier and faster to suck the desired amount of air. It becomes even more tricky not to lose power with the intake because very often people just put open cones under the hood and they suck very hot air.

@tractioncontroldelete 3 года назад

///Myth Busters 🤟 Loving this

@alw757 3 года назад

pretty sure the intake is messing with the airflow dynamics over the MAF sensor, sending wonky reading to the ecu and cutting power accordingly. not sure about the b58, but on the n55 the stock air box has fins to direct / straighten the airflow before it reaches the MAF. I haven’t yet seen an aftermarket intake that integrates these airflow straighteners

@huzaifavawda8383 5 месяцев назад

G series has IAT and no MAF

@TheDailyDriver 3 года назад

AFE DROP IN FILTER NEXT PLEASE!

@danielwilliams214 3 года назад

Wonder it the car was hitting tq limiter. Might need a xhp trans tune to raise the tq limiter.

@owenlee9474 3 года назад

Intake sounds good... does it lower air temp? My tuner says the cold air intakes don't help m235i due to bad airflow from the grills. True or not?

@ArtemDzhadzha 3 года назад

You can put scoops that will help a little to push fresh air into the intake. But to be sure you suck the air from the outside and not from under the hood, you should keep your intake boxed to eliminate any air suction from under the hood. And even after all of that, you won't get colder air. "Cold air intake" is more of a marketing name that means the air is sucked from outside. Properly designed factory intake will suck the same air of the same temp. The only downside is that factory intake is more restrictive. It puts more vacuum before the turbos, that's all. But the benefit is much less sand and much less damage to compressor wheels

@jackchn23 2 года назад

Can’t you put that thing in “drift” mode, and it will only be two wheel drive?

@mikedonovan7947 3 года назад

Loving the M340i content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@JustAwesome2020 3 года назад

Great video but can you please try a different intake

@joshb1275 3 года назад

What color is that dravit?

@carsinourdna9388 3 года назад

I wish you do a dyno on BMW F30 N55

@Brunovd99 3 года назад

@kies Motorsports hey, have u allready tried to set the dsc on the car off, normally u just press the button and it says deactivated... but if u hold that button the car will turn the dsc off.. it's for sure a lot more fun on my rwd but maybe it helps u guys out. best regards

@berkperformance 3 года назад

They perform the runs in 'Dyno mode' it automatically switches off DSC completely ;) (See previous vids)

@_Forever555 3 года назад

They should also try it with XDelete.. maybe that might help with the power cut off

@amessad 3 года назад

Intake is always tricky o the dyno.... it is probably the only add on along with ic that needs actual speed on the road to perform and the open hood with a flimsy fan does not even come close to actual on the road conditions interns of real time airflow.... if that makes sense :(

@raganyang4968 3 года назад

Yes sir..real world numbers vs Dyno numbers..I prefer street tunes myself as that's what the car actually does vs a Dyno which just shows number..both have their pros and cons for sure

@josesanchez3327 3 года назад

Do your F30 PS2 dyno vid!

@Streamlined955 3 года назад

Your results seem in line with conventional thinking. If you go into the BMW forums a significant group think that there is ZERO benefit from intakes. So a small gain sounds about right. Although, it’s possible that out on the highway at 70mph plus there is a greater benefit. THAT SOUND IS UNDENIABLY AWESOME THOUGH!!!

@1Bigduff 2 года назад

I wonder what the dollars spent per horsepower gained are. is the expense really worth only a couple HP or so? just a thought.

@Viktor9502 2 года назад

It’s not worth it for the power, but it’s worth it for the sound.

@in54ne82 3 года назад

I bought a drop in filter what a waste lol. Not sure if itd make a difference on a n54 engine

@kc2213 Год назад

Why is the car only revving to 6k rpm?

@Kai240i 3 года назад

I think the small hp gains are just from the filter element, not from the actual intake box. If u just stick a hi-flo filter in your stock box, you'll make the same gains.

@valeriysyutkin4940 3 года назад

You just copied my post :(

@Kai240i 3 года назад

@@valeriysyutkin4940 sorry i didn't even see your comment, i just comment what was on my mind for the small hp gains.

@shubdeepsingh8376 2 года назад

@@Kai240i is there anything recommend for g20 330i?

@alexvan1337 11 месяцев назад

@@shubdeepsingh8376any recommendations?

@JoshNormandy 3 года назад

BRYAN, PLEASE MAKE THE F30 SPACERS VIDEO!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE 🙏

@derekfriedrichs 3 года назад

Once again, this shows time and time again, that intakes dont do much, infact, I'd go so far as to say: that car will have a slower 0-60 time. A clean new paper filter with the engineered intake is the way to go. Most companies really cant hold a candle to the BMW engineers.

@adamscottv Год назад

Do the Dinan.

@AD350z 3 года назад

Do a RWD one too 😅

@thestimp1 3 года назад

Your hair grew a damn FOOT in a year.

@raveutcars 3 года назад

doesn't this thing rev to 7k?

@luiscorona552 3 года назад

No tune? Good numbers

@daveburgess7684 3 года назад

Thinking 4 horsepower more

@ottobong 3 года назад

I KNEEEEEWWWW ITTTTT

@puttitat2851 3 года назад

If you have a 4wd dyno, why not just dyno it 'regular' mode and not dyno mode? That should work just fine. Does on a rolling road anyways. :)

@dylan-nguyen 3 года назад

puttitat2 dyno mode is a car test function. Without it you will get tons of car errors. Rolling road dynos are less accurate which is why they got a dynojet

@JRHOMEVID 3 года назад

So ....... the big question is ... which I find wasn’t that clear in this video 🤔 does the intake give you any gains ?

@ChristianFantana 3 года назад

He says it at 5:11. 4hp

@ArtemDzhadzha 3 года назад

yes, it gives, not power but response. it reduces vacuum before the turbos, so turbos faster and more easily build boost - that results in a more pleasant response. But that comes in the cost of more sand attack compressor wheels

@ChevyFlora 3 года назад

haha not really. NOT the 16-20hp gains MST claims to give haha. I have this intake in my car. Purely for sound at this point.

@llkjjjss 3 года назад

Four HP

@bmwsincekid 3 года назад

JRHOMEVID no it doesn’t

@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 3 года назад

I think intakes on most BMWs are worthless.

@derekfriedrichs 3 года назад

Agreed.

@sekouchill 8 месяцев назад

You’re judging all BMWs and all intakes off one vid is kind of wild

@kunalmore5212 2 года назад

I did a quick calulation you said 377 HP at the Wheels meaning it must have 490 HP at the crank! Are you serious?

@b58forever Год назад

yeah m340i are ridiculous underrated i have one and beat pretty much everything on the road

@PhonesOnaDailyBasis 3 года назад

Tune. It need tune

@steveb540i 3 года назад

OK so stock an M340i has 382 hp by BMW's conservative rating. You modded with a high flow downpipe and an exhaust and lost performance? Then added an intake which did little more than make the car sound better (assuming you like more turbo spool noise). I appreciate your honesty, but what does that really say about these performance mods that should be bumping up the hp up a little?

@KiesMotorsports 3 года назад

BMW's number is to the crank, what we measured was to the wheels. Normally, you have about a 15-20% drivetrain loss when you rate it from the crank to the wheels. Although some mods don't add a ton more power, sometimes they add different sound, etc, which some people really like, even if it doesn't come with large gains