I couldn’t agree with this comment more!!!! I love my 6 speed 2.5 gen. Eventually I’m gonna have a whole fleet of Diamond C trailers to pair up with it.
@@mikemiller9119 obviously no I don’t. I also don’t have a ridiculous truck payment or emissions to deal with and cause issues. No mountains here in Texas just plenty of hills.
@@MFW1996 I’ve had both. The emissions aren’t an issue anymore besides the industry collaborating to raise the prices of DEF. The gains the trucks today can haul with reliability are far better than these old trucks. Sure, they come with a hefty price tag, but I’d rather have a truck that will do all without even breaking a sweat and having so many less trips for major repairs. So you can either pay at the mechanic shop and get the same truck you began with or you can pay at the dealer and let your mechanic forget who you are.
@@mikemiller9119 I am my mechanic. Emissions are better now, but far from perfect. They are the main cause of a lot of major repairs these days. New trucks are capable, but I can do just the same with my truck and have more fun doing so listening to her actually breathe and shifting my own gears. A 5” straight pipe and a 6 speed are wonderful things, they keep a smile on my face. Couldn’t say the same in a brand new truck.
I bought my first Dimond C a few weeks ago. I mentioned it to a "pro" that I was introduced to and he called them garbage lol. I'm like have you seen one? EVER? About an hour later he recanted his statement!🤣 Thanks for the video!!
I bought a diamond c dump trailer in December. MDT - much lighter-duty than this one, but also with telescoping dump. Love it so far! What's happening here with the 3rd stage (also happens to me the other day) is that the pump is running out of hydraulic fluid. It has nothing to do with the ability of the system to dump a heavy load. People just need to check their hydraulic level, or (since most ppl won't do that), build the hydraulic tank with extra high capacity.
That is a beautiful trailer! Almost hated to see it get dirty! Great test! 5 tons overloaded I’m 100% impressed! I have see other videos of the design, materials, construction, care and concern of what your employees put into the building of the trailers. Clearly you guys are making the very best trailers in America! I would love to visit your factory some day.
I have watched the video that showed this style trailer stall on third stage. However I read between the lines, you can clearly hear there was battery issues when they tested the dump. This is all in trick videos to make your product look better. John Deere is known for these fake videos of a Deere skid steer lifting 6500 pounds and than Cat, and Case Tryin to lift the same load and fail, however John Deere never pushes the load against the mast with the competition putting the center of gravity out more.. We call this tactic CNN or MSNBS.. lol Great video brother. My business owns two Load Trails goosenecks but I love the Diamond C quality as well.
The quarry once accidentally put 14K lbs of base rock in my 10K MDT. I could tell from my tires I had too much and was a little shocked when I saw the weight. I circled back around from the scale and was able to dump the excess NO PROBLEM. The telescopic lift never even flinched.
Good test of almost double the rating. See why you need the super singles? lol The scissors will lift a big load if it is mounted far enough forward. However, that also limits the dump angle.
That is a sweet truck Mr. Crabb! I just bought a 2003 with twice as many miles and the no emissions 5.9 and 6 speed manual are a huge breath of fresh air compared to my first diesel a 2016 Duramax.
Awesome I love my LPT I never doubted that it would dump it …. I saw the other video I personally think it was low on fluid and this is why his stopped on the third stage … Diamond C 💪!!!
Great video. I ordered that exact trailer and it just came in last week and haven't picked it up yet. But very excited and happy to see my set up in use and working great beyond it's designed limits. Thank you for all your videos and your involvement in the company. This will be my 2nd Dimond C trailer and excited to pick it up and add it to my business.
You guys, taking the time to do this video makes me want to go with a Diamond C for my next trailer. There are to many people who open their mouth with no basis. Love your Debunk!!!
Testing the fuck out that trailer, probably the best selling video I’ve seen… I got 2 Texas prides but once I pay them off thinking of getting diamond c trailers
No sure what's more impressive The trailer being so over loaded and it handled it like nothing. Trailer dumps it like it's nothing. Think we may need to see the where limit is of the trailer in a future video. Great trailers
HELL I WAS ALREADY SOLD !!!! Jacob if I purchased you a pair of gloves,,, would you where them? I’ve noticed you unloading equipment hooking up equipment and you never where gloves. I know that you can afford the gloves but are you going to use them ? Liked Subscribed & Shared
Thank you so much!! 10,000lbs (5 Tons) overweight very impressive. I WILL be placing an order! Diamond C is the truth. Thank you again wish I was there to hear what the engineers say I hope you guys have an amazing year.
Not sure what type of "myth" you wanted to debunk, but that lift is wicked Slowww. No thanks. The reality is that this is a long trailer, so it needs the telescopic, just like an end-dump. For a regular trailer length I'll take scissor, thank you very much. 1- they're made in USA. 2- only one seal and glad to rebuild. 3- MUCH faster. 4- more rugged, resistant to bending over sideways. 5- Uses less than half the amount of oil and pumping... more dumps per charge. 6- Standard USA cylinders, you can buy a new one in 50yrs if you wish. 7- Much MUCH less exposed chrome = less seal torn, plus tucked under the bed for even less dust flying around. Be well ~
It explains the myth in the video 😁 Definitely a market out there for scissor lifts still but our experience over the last 6 years is more and more customers wanting the telescopic and overall are happier with it. The old saying applies of “Different strokes for different folks”. Thanks for stopping by and dropping your feedback. 👍
You are absolutely correct !! I am an old grain farmer , we had 9 old grain trucks . They All had scissor lifts with 16-20' box's on them with 4' sides hauling 350- 400 bushels of grain . Never had one fail !! They were all super old too. 50s thru 70s and used Hard !!
@@diamondctrailers Nope!, Diamond C, in fact You are wrong. Don't give me your "different strokes" bs, you just want to Sell trailers and will give the customers whatever internet fad is going on. If they want pink elephants to lift the loads you'll sell them them (and say "different strokes"). Please. How about you Acknowledge that ALL the telescopic lifts are China-made with multiple seals requiring much more battery pumping power, so that you can INFORM your customers instead of just profiting off selling them the option which is Cheaper for you to procure??
Just picked up my 18000# LPT last week and had to haul 2 loads right away with it! First impressions are this trailer is going to exceed my needs! Which makes the wait and few extra dollars spent to build it exactly how I wanted extremely worth it. Good work Diamond C!!
I’m impressed. I bought a big Tex 25DU (gooseneck dual tandem, 25,800gvwr) and owned it for 3 months before getting corporate to buy it back. It was a complete turd. Couldn’t lift most loads places in it, especially if you dared to go forward of the axles.
Can you do a video showing how the axles and springs are affected by overloading? I have a 16' GN with the 207 and wonder how the setup will do if I overload it by 1,000-1,500 lbs (short haul 5-10 miles moving my mini-ex)
By the sound of that pump it barely made that last stage. Do it again with a pressure gauge on there I bet it's within 100psi of relief and not moving. load it with just a bit too much tongue weight by accident and its game over. Also next time give the axle weights so we can verify where the load was actually placed.
I'd be curious if the comments come from owners who have the "Premium Hydraulics" brand of telescopic lift? Those units were painfully slow and why I ordered my trailer with a 6/20 hoist. Looks like all the new trailers coming out have a Stillwell telescopic hoist. Maybe the Stillwells are stronger and faster? Still would like to see a video timing the cycles times of your hoist options. 5/15 vs. 6/20 vs. Telescopic vs. 13hp Honda gas powered telescopic.
The problem is the 2 gallon per minute pumps, including the gas powered one. The dump industry needs to address that. I added a second pump to mine, 16' x 22k PJ. As expected, it is twice as fast. I ordered it with two batteries, so I had that covered. For commercial use and one battery, the group 24 is just too small as is the group 27. For one battery, I recommend the group 31 w/950-1100 cca. If you want to see really slow, watch a big deckover dually with a twin cylinder scissors hoist.
@Nick Isaacs are you able to use just the one solenoid to operate both pumps? Allowing you to use just one dump switch and possibly one remote? Thanks for the tip on the group 31 battery. BTW my standard 5/15 hoist will dump much more than the trailers legal capacity and is 45 seconds faster on an up down cycle time than my 6/20 hoist. 45 seconds x 4 loads a day x 5 days a week starts to add up.🤷♂️
@@lukeshurtleff9770 I see no reason you can't use just one system for both pumps, that was my original plan but since the new pump had the control, I decided to keep it. That way you can use one or the other or both. I did install a hose between the tanks so they can self level. When you do a partial dump and set the bed back down you need to use just one control or it comes down too fast and will still overflow one tank. My equalizer hose is a little too small, 3/8". I agree on the 5" hoist being faster. That was on my 16' 14k Load trail, much quicker than my 6" trailers. It is all about the volume of the cylinders v/s the small pumps. FWI, if you accidently get too much on and it won't lift (it happens, Lol) I use a two foot tire iron between the frames and help it. It usually don't take much to help it get off the bottom. 2" or 3" and they are good to go.
Now make an engineered neck deck over dump with the telescopic actuator, and that’ll be one sweet jack of all trades trailer, oh and what’s up with you’re website
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
While I agree that tele is the only way to go, this "test" didn't debunk anything. The scale only gave the gross weight, and said nothing about that weight distribution. I'd prefer 3 weights, both full and empty, steers, steers and drives, then all 3 sets, to give us an actual view of the weight distribution. As the weight moves closer to the hinge point of the bed, basic laws of leverage make the rams job easier, as it's not lifting the entire weight of the load. The load was primarily in the back two thirds of the trailer. The loader did it right, even knowing it was going to be overgross. I've seen a few dump trailers fail, and in most cases, the load had settled in the bed, placing more of the weight on the ram. Other factors definitely contribute, such as the materials being hauled, age of the ram/pump, and electrical issues, but from the aspect of just weight, this "test" was pretty meaningless. I'll again state that I agree with tele over scissors. Every day, all day. Leverage from the front of the load reduces the force required to get the job done.
It is sad to see someone who doesn't know how to run equipment loading trucks or trailers. My biggest complaint when I owned a dump truck company was they always put the new guy on loading our trucks and all the damage they created, down over the cab, busted sideboards and damaged beds. Two times they crushed my cab because , you know, staying away from the cab would be common sense
Your telescopic hoist nearly unable to tip the dump vessel despite the front end being not loaded as much as the rear end. The same thing will happen even if the hoist is an under-floor scissor tipping hoist mainly because dump vessel "tipping pivot" is at the very tail end of vessel sub-frame. Moving the "tipping pivot" forward to create some two feet overhang will provide (defending on the length of the dump vessel) substantial "counter weight" to lessen the load on the front end telescopic hoist. For a low mounted dump vessel overhang is almost cannot be done because the rear end of the body and the hanging tailgate (pivoted at the top) will "dig-in" into the ground. For a forward pivot location to work in a low mounted body construction is to have a sloping upward floor towards the end of the body. The sloping upward floor however will require a greater tipping angle of the final end of the floor equal to the angle of repose of the materials to be handled.
Good eye and great question! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
Thank you! It was fully loaded (10K overloaded) from front to back. That is the great thing about the telescopic lifts compared to scissors or dual cylinders under the bed, you can front load them and they still dump with ease being the cylinder is always still out front.
I am looking for an 18 to 20 ft hydraulic dump trailer gooseneck in the only one I can find is Texas pride trailers that make one diamond c does not make a 18 or 20 ft
should have the max tipping capacity in front of the axles in the specs if you dont already, possibly a image with the capacity depending on the location
First off you need to load it like an idiot would load it, Too the front! You loaded the trailer properly and it dumped. I'd like to see it dump with a couple of those tons moved to the front of the trailer.
Good eye! The cylinder remained 100% straight. What you’re seeing is actually an illusion due to the wide angle lens of the go pro. If you notice in some frames it appears that way and in others it doesn’t, same thing with the top rail or top edge of the trailer.
Good call! Definitely want to know what the weight per yard is. Keep in mind it varies depending on moisture content (which I’m sure you know 😁). The awesome thing about the LPT is that it is not nearly as persnickety about load placement and dumping as a scissor lift or dual cylinder setup is.
Good eye! It is the product of the wide angle lens of the GoPro. At some points it appears that way but as does the top of the trailer too. 😁 The cylinder was definitively good and straight. 👍
really appreciate your informative video's , a dump trailer has been on my list for a couple of years . obviously price is always a factor but with your tour of the paint line , telescopic lift , ect there isnt anyone on the market that comes close to your quality from what i see. it will be worth the extra expense for the quality . do you offer a 16' dump with a 3 way gate , telescopic cyl and a side door to load pallets and large boulders up front with forks ? will want a goosneck as well
When I get ready to buy my dump trailer. You just sold me. Going to buy diamond C. Thanks for the video. One last thing what was the name of that trailer and size. Because for what I’m needing the trailer to do. That one would be perfect. Thanks again.
Bigtime Diamond C fan here. When i hit the lotto i plan on buying multiple Diamond C trailers including this trailer. I would however tweak it a bit more on the OP side like (2) hydro lifts in center instead of one, etc. I have a farm and live in an area in Ms where we have very little options for dirt and gravel. If we want the good stuff like limestone the truckers here charge $900 per load but if i had a trailer like this i could simply go to the spot the truckers go and get the trailer filled for $300. I missed out on so many ops here with free highly rich topsoil that was free if i could pick it up but i had to hire truckers and that cost me $150 per load.
32k for this set up is a little nuts; I bought 2 DE PJ trailers 7 guage; 22k gvwr scissor lift for 28k a year ago.. Let's go Brandon. Maybe if I hit the lottery I can upgrade to the telescopic.
@@diamondctrailers it really is a nice trailer! Would love to own one myself, not that big for my small truck but I sure hate shoveling dirt out of my trailer!!!
Even from a manufacture you are not greasing your ball. Great way to show people how to do things properly, but what can you expect from someone that drives and old dodge and thinks it’s better than the new dodge.
That is impressive. I have virtually the exact same trailer, even the color, but mine is the scissor. You’re exactly right when you said it would have quit as soon as you hit the up button haha. That being said it has been a kick ass dump trailer.
That as impressive! Definitely want one now. With my scissor lift 14k dump, anything over rated capacity will not lift , until you shovel some out first
Business in the front party in the back🤣👌 Thanks for the video and info on the telescopic ram, makes sense why there on simi dumps. I need one just like the video but in work truck white.
Diamond C are very good trailers. i have owned one built strong. They have however became way over priced . You can buy a premium built trailer to the specs you would like for the same money as a factory trailer. But this was a good test it shows how good they are.
I saw this same test performed elsewhere. I thought the dual cylinder trailer would be strongest. I was surprised. I'm buying a dump trailer. Best believe it will have a telescoping cylinder.
While watching this and seeing the lpt in action and seeing it lift I had a question pop in my head with the way you mount the cylinder in the center could you put dual cylinder mount and move them out over the frame rails and have it as a option for lpt and the wdt for the people who believe in over kill while building and ordering trailer I mean we know now one will lift more the recommend so two has to be better correct??
I had 7 by 14 with 32 inch side loaded to top and never had a problem people would tell it is never going to dump hope Is brought shovels I would laugh at push the button and watch dump then at time I had 20,000 lbs in my trailer best I have ever owned
Could you add some kind of scale to the trailer so you know the weight at all time? We have them on our air ride trailers but wasn’t sure without air ride if they could be added.
not debunked just loaded good most of it is all towards the back and middle that was a good loader you had he did good on that load ,,,, and your right telly is the way to go
