I'm pretty sure that if Jebus were real, the Romans would not allow him to be buried in a grave. They usually did one of 2 things with criminals like him. leave them to rot & be eaten by vultures or thrown alive into Gehenna which was a trash heap that often caught fire. Because, after all, they were trash. lOL
@@sagerider2 mass graves after the vultures picked at their bones was the rule. There's only 2 exceptions of this. It was an emperor's birthday and he allowed 2 people to be buried in a tomb because he was told its bad luck not to.
Here's my theory: Jesus was crucified because he ran an unlicensed restaurant (fish, bread and wine) and he had 12 employees that he never paid so Judas, who had gone for years without pay, sued his boss. When the repo guys came to collect the debt, it was revealed that Jesus had wasted the money on a really sleek ad campaign and now only owned a couple of bed sheets and a pair of shoes. From there on, things got a bit out of hand...
Jesus is the sun Twelve Apostles are the Twelve signs of the zodiac the Bible talks about the New Testament they are plays that's why the slightly different from each other there is a RU-vid video and it's called the Jesus sun God if by chance you're reading this please look it up it will explain everything you'd be amazed Christians are really sun worshippers
Mary to future husband: Joe, I'm pregnant. Joe to Mary: woman , fetch me that box of rocks. Mary to Joe: But, but, an angel did it. Joe: then we shall stone this so called Angel fellow too. It is the Law.
"Well I know you have been unfaithful, but if it is gods gift as you claim then we shall preform the abortion test. The priest will cast a spell on a bottle of water mixed with the dirt from the floor of the room we sacrifice animals in. You Marry will drink this potion while holding some wheat to be burnt and swearing to God that if you are lying the baby will die within you and you will never again bare children." Numbers 5:11-31
@@Ronnymikkonen2686 Darwin theorized that mankind (both male and female) evolved alongside each other over millions of years, both reproducing after their own kind before the ability to physically have sex evolved. They did this through “asexuality” (“without sexual desire or activity or lacking any apparent sex or sex organs”). Each of them split in half: “Asexual organisms reproduce by fission (splitting in half). That takes too much faith. I'm sorry I just don't have enough faith to be an atheist!
I had a recent encounter with an apologist who claimed the Romans and Greeks destroyed the records of Jesus because they feared his "blasphemy" (as if Romans and Greeks would care about what some crazy Jew was spouting in Judea)
At the time Christianity was a small cult and there was dozens of such cults in the day. Christianity itself had 2 dozen variations too before the current version was established.
The funniest part is that Rome generally incorporated foreign gods into their belief system and had a society that offered a fairly large amount of religious freedom.
It's an interesting point about Jesus being unaware of when figs are in season and what were the smallest seeds. It seems like the people who wrote these books were the privileged few who only knew that they had food and not how it was grown and gotten. These are definitely the fingerprints of earthly royalty and wealthy clergy.
There are people who cast out demons. We call them mental health professionals. Or rather, they help people to cast out their own demons. Of course, I'm a person who likes to use metaphorical language to describe everyday experiences, and I think that's okay, as long as we don't confuse the metaphor with the reality.
Jesus was hardly mental health professional :P Pretty much the opposite, actually. He was so bad at reading people he had perfect foreknowledge of all the event and STILL failed to predict Judas would betray him lol.
Arrakiz666 I was always under the impression that it was Jesus who told Judas to retrieve the guard so that he could be the sacrifice. And that Judas was not doing any wrong, but just following the will of Jesus.
So the romans just executed a scammer. A nigerian scammer. Jesus came from nigeria, we can tell because he tell's you he's the son of god and wants you to help him move riches beyond our wildest dreams
James Watson Atheist Gamer “theists are on par with anti-vaxers” how? Anti-vaxers have been scammed into endangering their kids, theists have been scammed into indoctrinating their kids. Critical difference
@@wizard1117 isn't abuse of a child heinous no matter the form of abuse? I'd say they are both equally heinous. Manipulating children to behave with the fear of hellfire and demons is just as destructive as not vaccinating your children.
@@MegaSage007 oh, I was simply speaking from personal experience. Not only me, but hundreds of kids ive interacted with throught my life. I think in this case, anecdotes are pretty solid evidence that parents use scare tactics and threaten their children with he'll.
He is a legend in his own lifetime. His numerous, concise and pointed speeches will go down in history as some of the best anti superstition Works ever. Bravo.
if the bible is the word of god, and everything he say is true... then why does it contradict itself over and over and over? the bible prove that the bible is not reliable evidence...
(sarcasm) It contradicts itself over and over, because man is made in God's image. Among our many potential flaws is inconsistency, lying, and forgetting stuff. Thus God does too!
Man being created in the image of God is completely backwards. It's the other way around. I can think of no other reason an anthropomorphic deity would share the values and prejudices of its followers.
And a man invented that you should be virgin until your marriage? That you must have only a wife? I don't think so, I could think that all the other religions back then were invented by men. For example the Greek gods are more similar to humans.
I tried telling my mother about the two completely different stories about Judas. I even showed her both passages side by side. I was truly astounded when she said that they both right. "Judas went to hang himself, but the branch broke and his guts went everywhere." I'm not fucking kidding. And when I pointed out that the two stories are in the exact opposite chronological order, and have mutually exclusive details, she could not even comprehend what I was saying. She genuinely didn't understand how I couldn't see that the two stories weren't in direct contradiction with one another.
RedStine - She was told that by her preacher or heard it at least often enough that become part of her belief system. People do not really read the bible and their lack of knowledge is astounding. The bible does not play a large role in the belief of many. Many Christians cannot identify more than two or three of the disciples. According to data from the Barna Research Group, 60 percent of Americans can't name even five of the Ten Commandments. Fewer than half of all adults can name the four gospels.
JESUS CHRIST why did they agree that he existed? Where is the evidence? Care to cite your sources that this is what "modern scholars" believe? In what subject matter are these people scholars? Theology? A commonly held belief doesn't make that thing real. Millions of children believe in Santa Claus, therefor your comment is idiotic and without merit. If the character of Jesus was based on a real person then he wouldn't be responsible for any of the acts attributed to him in the bible and would share at best a tangential resemblance to the man written about in scripture
JESUS CHRIST is all Unless you deliberately ignored the content you're commenting on, you just watched a video providing much much MUCH more than enough evidence to show your comment is complete bullshit.
Christianity was created by Emperor Constantine as was the name of Jesus Christ! Here The Deception of Constantine: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TY1_sYnr0gE.html and ZEUS: King of The Gods. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1a3wvaDLMp4.html
I like how Justin Martyr admits that many of the fantastic qualities attributed to Jesus were already common beliefs in other religious systems that long pre-dated the 1st century. In that dialogue, Martyr was addressing pagan critcisms of Christianity (i.e. Pagan: "we've heard all this before. It mirrors some of the same things we already believe" Martyr: "yeah, ummm...must be Satan...")
Eternal Cycles - This is a great comparison. The Christian invented the devil in the way we know him today. In the jewisgh scripture satan is working for god. His job is it to tempt people.
Did Jesus not say, "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man return from the corner store with his pack of smokes. Be right back.“ (Matt 16: 27, 28)
wwickeddogg, Christians claim that god never stopped performing miracles. But its fairly obvious that miracles exist in the gaps between knowledge. As those gaps close, the miracles (or those who assert them) have less and less freedom. I'm sure that must create resentment of science - the ultimate miracle party pooper.
Gage Blackwood, many miracles stopped with the camera and film. But, I suggest others started. They include the eventual capture of highly unlikely events, and exploiting the errors and limits of photography to assert supernatural events or perpetrate hoaxes. Also recording ambiguous information that fool our perceptions (e.g. optical illusions). It did however help demonstrate to us how easily we can be fooled - especially the film entertainment industry.
23:35 since losing my faith I pretend talk to my lost loved ones. It has helped me mourn those losses I never processed due to the delusion of heaven ☹️
I recently read Apocryphal Gospels for fun, and I found the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, and it is now my favourite. Especially chapter 4. "After that again he went through the village, and a child ran and dashed against his shoulder. And Jesus was provoked and said unto him : Thou shalt not finish thy course. And immediately he fell down and died. But certain when they saw what was done said : Whence was this young child born, for that every word of his is an accomplished work ? And the parents of him that was dead came unto Joseph, and blamed him, saying : Thou that hast such a child canst not dwell with us in the village: or do thou teach him to bless and not to curse : for he slayeth our children." Jesus kill a child for dashing his shoulder (LMFAO), and must learn that great powers demands greats responsibilities. I read those Gospels also to try to understand what would be Jesus if he ever existed. And trust me, I have no clue. The only thing I think is that we rejected the rest day (Sabbath). For the rest, no clue. The "Robin Hood" part reminds me of Star Trek 8 : First Contact, where the inventor of FTL travel is shocked to discover what heritage he left in the future. 15:04 10 minutes left ? So bad.
what's more interesting is what Jesus did in his teenage years and young adulthood , prior to being baptised for his sins and joining John the baptist cult and catching the messianic bug . He was known as a drunkard who slept with prostitutes.
+Happy Camper do you idiots come to learn or just to troll? The gospel of Thomas is more authentic than the ones picked out by a corrupt church flexing it's misogynistic muscles.
tabularasa0606 Too excellent. His vocal rythems are so soothing that I sometimes use his lectures to help me sleep. It's not that he's boring, he's just *that* good!
Very interesting. A note about those evangelists who do the leg lengthening trick; I experienced it, I saw it happen, but then why wasn't I any taller? The reason; NOTHING HAPPENED. It was all a show.
Holy Koolaid has an excellent series of videos on faith healers out now, including demonstrations on the “leg pulling” one. (Yes, they were posted long after OPs comment, but future viewers may find them interesting.)
If I had a second time-travel opportunity, I'd find the Nag Hammadi texts just after the excavators, but before their mom had a chance to burn half of them.
I love how you do all the hard ground work Aron. My response to Christians is: "What are you being saved from? The malevolent nature Yahweh required to define what He is not? What are you repenting for? The sin you know you'll do again which you won't have to bare responsibility for? Or being made imperfect, unable to resist temptation?" The there's the scapegoating of original sin in Yahweh's divine plan.
Aron Ra: "Hmmm...I'll drop a truth bomb here, a truth bomb there.....oh, and over there as well, here's a free one for you....and for you.....and you....Step right up and get your free truth bombs"
Moreover, it's probable, based on timing, that Mary Shelley had...at the very least...heard conversations about his work when she was young, AND it's possible, due to her family's social sphere, that she may have actually met the man personally. That said, there never was an actual Dr. Frankstein, and nobody ever accomplished what Shelley's story describes. Thus, even if we brought Aldini back to life in the present day, he would only...at best...recognize shadows of himself in Shelley's work. Having established all that, your point ultimately only reinforces Aron's point that characters we _know_ to be fictitious embellishments are...with regard to evidence...more real than Jesus.
I love listening to aron ra right before bed, when I'm working out, or just simply driving. He's a very engaging speaker yet he's good enough at conveying information you can still absorb a good deal without focusing in to hard. Love you aron, when the world comes back I hope you start giving lectures again.
I was pretty lucky, when I was little, I used to visit friends a lot, and almost all of them were christian kids. I went to church with them sometimes, and I just.. never understood any of it? Kept my head low to be respectful, but I'm glad I didn't buy into it when my friend's parents would "thank god" for their meals they worked for and cooked. Hell, back in school, when we said the pledge of allegiance (to the flag) I used to just cut out "under god" when I said it. I slowly stopped saying it when everyone else stood up, as I soon had no respect for a god. Kids did notice, and I had piles of bibles over the years, especially through highschool, of people wanting to "save" me. I tried to get them off my back by saying I'm in a different religion every time someone asked me, but that caused issues of getting ridicule from all fronts about things I wasn't even knowledgeable about. I'm glad I remained atheist through the bible belt of the USA, and I'm glad my family is completely "meh" on the topic of religion in general. It never came up in the household. There was no god to bless our treehouse, no god to build our home or keep us safe. It was us.
Don’t interrupt the god-slayer. Or he shall up-shit you harder than ken ham himself. Aron, you are my hero. You helped me find freedom, and helped me seek truth over all else. And I feel soooo very much less alone today than I have ever felt before. I am proud to be an atheist. I am a good woman, because of my own values and understanding. Not because a magical DIETY, ( and many men all collectively known as Jesus), from a mythical story CONTROLLED ME LIKE A SLAVE BY THREATENED ME WITH ETERNAL TORMENT, AGONY, and HORRORS IF I DON’T FOLLOW A SERIES OF SCREWED UP, CONFUSED, CONTRADICTORY LAWS, RULES AND REGULATIONS OF A PRIMITIVE AND UNEDUCATED LOT: RATHER, I AM A COMPASSIONATE, LOVING, HELPFUL, and HONEST PART OF THE GREATEST HUMANISTIC FACTION OF THE MOST REMARKABLE SPECIES I HAVE YET TO ENCOUNTER. (My opinion, don’t go crazy. DOGGO’s are awesome too. ). And I couldn’t be more grateful and lucky to have come across a like-minded lot of others seeking truth as I am. So thank you to you for helping start and strengthen my resolve and desire to seek a GENUINE RELATIONSHIP WITH REALITY instead of missing out on this amazing planet on the hope of A SECOND LIFE. honestly I’m not that bold. I’m just happy I’m here while I’m here. And while I’m still breathing, I’m going to try my hardest to make the lives of all those I come across just a little bit more comfortable, loving, calm, compassionate, FUNNIER, EASIER, AND (with some luck) a bit more BEARABLE when shit hits the fan. Thanks to everyone that makes me feel less alone and stronger than ever. And Even if we never meet, I’m proud to be part of the human brotherhood. Love you all. Peace and love your wall, always and all ways, AJ
Common sense is so much better than religious sense one of my earliest memories is my Mother painting a beautiful mural in the Prattville Church of Christ baptistery. Forced to go to Jehovah Witness, Baptist, Holiness Churches where they cry and speak in tongues and the whole time felt like the worst scum before "the lord". I'm 4 days from 58 and thanks to videos like these I feel like I just got out of prison much like Brooks in the Shawshank Redemption.
My post above, proves that Apostle Paul was opposed to circumcision which your "Great Teacher" ridiculed as though he taught circumcision. I tell you of a truth, your doomed if you listen to this rot and do not research his message for yourself. There is not one point he correct about.
If I called you an idiot, I should give a reason for my charge. You can't just claim the bible is a fairy tale, because there is tons of EVIDENCE against that. Anyone who makes a statement like you have made only proves the lack of wit or intelligence. The bible is THE SOURCE of over half the world's intellect and our history is so chock full of it, just ignoring it like you speaker encourages, is to take leave of your intellect and history. No, I'm not saying all religion is correct, but as I corrected one man here, Noah Balboul, about biblical circumcision, and proved Apostle Paul's sentiments, like you he answered that the bible wasn't reliable as history. But it IS! No one in the scholarly world denies that. Except you, and you're far from a scholar. Anyway, you now know what I meant by asking how the water of your wit could actually rise above its source. The idea is completely impossible. Just think about it bit, and you should get it. If you're serious about investigation, do it on your own. Here is but a small source of information that you will not refute! Check it out: www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=V5P0Wta0Cu6O5wKhyKCQDw&q=bible+reliability+lee+strobel&oq=bible+reliability&gs_l=psy-ab.3.2.0j0i22i30k1l9.1838.5112.0.10749.18.17.0.0.0.0.166.1546.14j3.17.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.17.1544.0..0i131k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i20i264k1j0i22i10i30k1.0.BAzVzPUsAas
You said, " Why do you think i'm an atheists? Why do you think people are becoming atheists? BECAUSE OF RESEARCH , the information you send me i have seen already , it's all bullshit excuses you people try to find to defend you fairy tale because believing things that are comfortable is much better then accepting reality as it is , there is nothing you can consider evidence for the bible and supernatural , there are only excuses and worthless assumptions !!" The difference between me and you and your parents is that I have never been limited to be challenged by any spiritual question. I have actually invested 65 years on the 30th of last month to any an all questions thrown at me. Though I had doubts, just as you, I also doubted my doubts and researched my questions thoroughly. AND I did not merely depend upon answers given me by anyone. I wanted source references or I wouldn't even consider it. Like an adamant claim that the "bible is a fairy tale." That is a physical impossibility. I wouldn't mind discussing these things with you, but not here. The people for the most part have absolutely no love of TRUTH so as to be saved, where the truth really does set us free, and which is subject to ALL ANALYSIS.
Thank you. I too am the product of a Mormon believing family, and have been having a difficult time since Hurricane Michael as I was forced to move in with my very religious Mormon sister and her family, who feel the constant need to belittle my personal views, but don't I dare ever try to point out the glaring flaws in their own. It's nice to be able to escape to the attic, where me and my son have been banished, and be able to get a rational view that doesn't simply dismiss reality, whenever it becomes unpleasant. BTW, my sister actually got angry at her google echo device and started yelling at it, because it started giving her the news, and she believes that she shouldn't listen or watch the news herself, because it is unnecessarily upsetting, and has made it a point of saying that she relies on her husband to do so and to keep her informed of anything she needs to know for voting or fleeing the state in front of hurricanes. This is the kind of environment I am subjected to for now, though I am going to look at an apartment today, so it is nice to have an escape into reason.
Jesus eithet did not exist or was stupid. I mean, what do wise people do? They write books, because they know words do not last long, and they want their wisdom to stay intact. Wise people with resources even go futher to prevent accidents. For example, the governmental scholars of Chosun made four copies of the same book and stored them in four isolated storages in deep mountains. And Christians think the greastest of all human teachers did not do anything to preserve his teachings? Why didn't Jesus write his own books instantly with his magic, or let one of his apostles to keep a chronicle of his life and teachings? Did he really not know that his teachings would be altered when it would be propagated mouth to mouth?
Hey aron, would you ever consider doing a video where you explain the entire 4.5 billion year history of earth compressed into one calendar year? It would give a great perspective on the timing of significant geological and evolutionary events.
Yeah, Cosmos did it. Twice. Nonetheless, it would be sort of cool seeing it from Aron's point of view. In fact, I think there should be several versions of it, as each educator would have different points of view.
There's a book I read when I was kid that tells exactly what you are asking for, if we compressed earth's history in a year, the first human emerged about 5 minutes before new year's eve(of the next year).
You go, Bro! Keep at 'em!!! Big, Dumb 'Merica needs to wake up. People who doubt our collective intelligence as a Country, just look at who we put in charge. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm missing my cartoons.
The way you describe stuff is so refreshing and down to earth. No doubts about what you are saying. .Biblical teachings talk ..in circles meant to confuse you...and not really answer the question.
35:10 imagine three men being taken down from a Crucifix, two dying but one seeming to improve over the course of three days to the point where he was conscious again.
Brilliant F'ing Lecture, AronRa 🎯👌 I've been unsubscribed from your channel, somehow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've resubscribed, I will check on it periodically. This has happened on 3 other Atheists Activist's channels as well as the Humanist Report. So stinkin' frustrating!! I'm a newer atheist (7-8 months). You're a hero to me. I live in the South (usa) so..... You understand 100%, I'm sure.
Zeon Zaku I used to wonder if might be the case too... But rather than seperate people I think these inconsistent characteristics of Jesus are due to separate imaginings... Each having the characteristics (fears, prejudices, aspirations, taboos, etc) of the person imagining him.
Aron makes me feel vindicated because for many years I read the New Testament and never thought the words of Jesus made any sense. These words were always so venerated as divine wisdom that I wondered why I was unable to 'get it'. Now I realize that it is just a bunch of nonsense. Thanks, Aron!
I mean if the only details about Jesus' early life are the kind of things that are *impossible...* Not sure if this counts as a valid response to the argument.
"But you're not actually showing me an animal turning into an other animal so you can't show me evolution" I guess apes don't have tails, but mankind has fairy tales.
Hey AronRa I'd like to know if any other videos that where taken in gateway to reason 2 ? I am asking because I am interested in the subject of writing (fiction, none fiction) I haven't seen any videos out yet. Other then that great talk hope you become senator of Texas.
You miss understood me I was asking for their presentations (Dana Fredsti & David Fitzgerald) because there subjects where about how to write as an atheist author ( fiction/none-fiction). I was curious on what they had to say hens why I was asking.
I am not sure if that was his case or not but besides the point I am still wondering if there is any video out of there speech/ talk which I am very interested in. Thanks for your concern by the way
I'm sure they will be uploaded, either on the speakers' channels, or maybe on gateway 2 reason's RU-vid channel(I think I remember seeing a video on a channel called that, but I can't remember.) also(and I'm not saying this to be rude), but is English not your first language? because if you are planning on writing in English, you should know you had about a dozen spelling/grammar errors in your two or three comments. just saying.
Advertisement under this video, " Free Messianic Bible" Unlock the Scrolls of the Ancient Hebrew Scriptures. I hope Aron Ra gets those sheckles for this ad. You make more sense than any religious person I have ever known. Thank You Aron for pulling the strings together.
Aron- there are quite a few parallels between Moses and Paul- the NT is a rewrite of sorts, with all manner of interpolations thrown in afterwards- you know this. Stories mythology, fables, whatever.. Not to be taken too seriously- not any more than your typical televangelist. Go Go Godzilla :)
God loves you! (and will torture you if you don't love him!) God says don't kill! (except when he says kill!) God loves everybody (except women, and those OTHER tribes) God is really smart (except he doesn't seem to understand the universe he claimed to create) God is really powerful (but can't build a box, boat, or write a book.) God knows everything (but is often surprised at outcomes of his actions) God is love (except he's mad at how things turn out, which he should be able to foresee and predict) God has no gender or preference (except he REALLY likes circumcised dicks, and thinks that women are icky) What did I get wrong?
@@Zaprozhan there's a ton more. God hardened Pharaoh's heart cuz he wanted a chase scene and a catastrophic violent murder climax. God made bets with the devil over the torture of his loyal worshippers. God turned a woman into salt. I think there were a few city-sized slaughters and planet-wide genocides in there somewhere. I'm gonna watch the Friendly Atheist to get the rest of the details. He's reading through Genesis, one bloody chapter at a time.
