N64 Analog Stick Replacement - GameCube Style on the Nintendo 64 / MY LIFE IN GAMING 

+NightSprinter [Try4ce] Very interesting! Much as it blew me away in 1996, and as much as I have always thought the stick was mostly fine, I'm starting to rediscover that it's actually a very fascinating device, especially considering when it was made. And yeah, I've always been a bit uneasy with the "analog" terming myself - I always preferred Nintendo's official terms "control stick" and "control pad," but everyone says "analog stick" and "D-pad," so I've kinda switched over the years so that people know what I'm talking about.

+My Life in Gaming I always thought the stick was perfectly fine, but admittedly, I wish it was "less stiff" in the plastic - rubber would have been better overall. There also was a reason for your controller NOT loosing its position (Sort of) My friend has a grey N64 controller, the stick has NO resistance, it literally flops over every direction. I have two controllers (grey and red) which I had growing up and EXESSIVELY played the system. But was always more inclined to play via grey controller. So that control stick is "slightly" worse than the red, but the middle "prong" - actually lines up fine, my blue (no loose-stick) and the red one, both on the right middle prong "slightly" dont fit properly, and my friend said "yeah - your controllers have been opened before" - Has yours done that at all? The reason your control stick and my own has not become loose (Although mine are a bit loose - but still playable, and I have gotten used to the loose element) There was two versions of the controller. Version 1. I believe was from launch and they tried dying it off - are plastic, And have the control stick itself incased in a block - When you move the stick about, it causes the stick to grind against the chamber and wear down - it also becomes harder for it to read and register. This version (and all other versions from my knowledge) have lights that fires through to register movement (Like a ball mouse) Version 2. was a metal casing for the chamber, which made it much more resistant against becoming loose - but was "slightly" more expensive to make. it did NOT mean your controller will never become loose - its just, it does not loose its resistance as quickly - Which was a nice thing.

+My Life in Gaming the replacement sticks (all of them) are inputting in 2s instead of 1s which is why you're getting that sensitivity. 3D platformers are impossible with any of them. The ONLY game I found that I do decent with is Starfox. I can't believe you didnt add the Raphnet adapter. I have been looking for a solution to my N64 joystick problem for years and years 2007 to be exact and havent found any solution except the hori pad UNTIL I found out about the raphnet gamecube to N64 adapter. If you haven;t tried them out, I have the 1st and 2nd revision and Id be MORE than happy to lend them to you for a review. I promise youre not going to want to play on anything else. The adapter also has memory and you can select different macros and save them so I can play goldeneye with call of duty controls using both joysticks. You can purchase replacement joysticks for the gamecube controller and replace the C stick with no modification, it slips right on so both of the sticks match. The product is supposed to have virtually no noticeable lag and I have found that to be the case in all of my games. I can even pull off some (almost) frame perfect jumps speedrunning SM64 so there isn;t a problem in that regard. Let me know if you;d like me to send one to you. Thanks for the great content!

That is interesting, as a new hack I saw utilizes a programmed PIC (I forgot which one, exactly) for the GC-styled ones to actually create the necessary steps in movement to make up for the standard deficiency that the standard replacement mod has.

N.E.R.D

NLuKa420 why wouldn't you when every game uses a and b...........

NLuKa420 i grew up with the n64 ONLY using the middle and right stick,i cringe when i see people use the left one, and when i first played wrestlemania 2000 i got so pissed at first when i realized you cant use the analog stick,you have to use the d pad for that game.

SoulEradicator [GD] yeah,for me its comfortable as hell

I agree

I think it's very comfortable, but the stick just sucks.

how can you possibly like that? This dude needs a coach

@@eriks8382 Eat shit you elitist douche. These guys are real, and that's why so many of us enjoy their work. We don't need more actors in the world: we need more genuine, passionate people like these guys.

Nick Hartman that’s probably why he loves how awkward they are. Because he can tell that they’re very genuine and passionate in what they do. Idk

I don't find them awkward

+Stickygod [Try4ce] You're right! And Coury is right. My brain at 12:30 in the morning was not right and I said the exact opposite thing of what I meant. We added an annotation, thanks for pointing that out.

RIP annotations

such quality on a small-ish channel!!

Dumbass! There are many other youtubers who can also edit videos. You act like he's the only one!

or maybe he acts like there are quite a few that can't... Coury is a video editor by profession, so I'd hope the videos were well edited.

This guy are sick!

@@chestosneakoinc wow you really dont know what a Joke is

Really.

No.

Me too! I love that thing! I mean look at it. It looks so cool!

Same here. It was pure magic when it was released. I can still remember where I was when I got to play Super Mario 64 Japanese release before it was released in the states (a mall game store). I was entranced.

Well i haven't met a official controller i didn't like. Its usually the third party stuff that sucks.

Put some grease on the stick.

You just gotta replace the gears inside the analog stick

Alen Vejzagić The issue with this replacement joystick is the microcontroller converting the signal from the potentiometer to the same kind of signal from the original stick. It doesn't work exactly as it should for some reason. I wonder what Repairbox was thinking. Severatius made a video about it a couple years ago. It's missing some degrees of movement in both axis.

8:11 what dead zone? I did what this guy said and boom deadzone gone

A drunk Tom Hanks

normie twice removed A little bit

WILSON!!!!!!!!!

I think it was during there 8bitdo controller stream somebody asked him to do a tom Hanks impersonation and he screamed Wilson. Best ting ever :)

You know what he really sounds like, he sounds likes Steven's Dad from Steven Universe

+Raven575 [Try4ce] Haha, was it you? Thanks for pointing it out!

+My Life in Gaming I saw the "credit" at the end...LOL. I'm just glad to help out in any way. I'll try to pop in to any future live streams that I can. I really appreciate the videos you guys make. This info that you share is usually not easy to find and, a lot of times, even harder to decipher. Keep up the great work.

To clarify, I was the N64 Analog stick info. Another person had the Lodgenet Controllers info. Cheers.

+Mellow Gaming [Try4ce] Heh, yeah, I was 12 when I first saw an N64 demo kiosk at Toys R Us, and I forget if my first instinct was holding the outside prongs or holding it with my fingers like a joystick, but whichever I did, I definitely did it wrong! It wasn't until a friend rented a system a few weeks later that I even knew the Z button existed. Blew my mind! Heh, I installed two panels of wood paneling in my studio room for shooting purposes back in May. Best thing I've ever done, love that old-fashioned look!

It makes a change from seeing RU-vidrs stood in front of Ikea bookshelves filled with games that are nearly always shot flat on. The presentation on your videos is superb. I noticed you're rarely in the same spot from one video to the next which helps keep things visually interesting.

+My Life in Gaming HA! Gotta have the wood grain! I remember seeing commercials of people playing the 64 and remembering how they were holding the controller, so I never had a problem when I played the demo unit in Toys R Us... ;)

No way Mário party does even a gamecube analog stick become loss after 2 days of gameplay

Can an update video about the Gamecube style analog stick be possible given the information?

No it doesn’t. My experience with an 8bitdo stick is horrible. None of the inputs register properly. Pressing up-right for me registers as a full right rotation and also the stick came crooked and I can’t fix it.

It's also not rubbery its hard

+Mr. Bones SuperMore101 [Try4ce] It's not a simple mod. Sadly it would require extensively reworking the plastic of the controller. It doesn't fit.

aww thats too bad. Well Im still curious enough to mod an n64 controller just to know. Wish me luck.

@@BoshMind Wasn't expecting to see you here, I'm a big fan of your work. Did you ever get the mod to work? I know it's half a decade late, but I'm curious.

No, don’t use lithium grease, use silicone grease cuz that’s better for the plastic.

This is a really late response but I can assure you that the cheaper end 3rd party controllers are absolute garbage. I don't like these replacement sticks either because of the accuracy issues. imo the best bet is to buy used official controllers, just be sure the seller has the stick listed as *tight* and has no other flaws to report.

+N64 Glenn Plant I also purchased a Hori Minipad after torturing myself with research. It's easily the best controller for the N64 that fits my needs, with a plus for having to rear triggers that are BOTH the Z button. My one and smaller complaint is about the build quality for the front facing buttons. They feel almost sticky.. and after multiple disassembly and cleaning sessions, I came to realize, that's just how they are. For the most part though, if having a near perfect analog stick is your goal, then the Hori pads are the way to go.

+N64 Glenn Plant [Try4ce] Does it also not have the full analog input range that the original stick has? I've come close to buying one a few times, but two things hold me back... one, I'm very very unsure about how I feel about how it handles the Z buttons. And two, I like the feel of the N64 controller in the first place, and my analog sticks are quite fine... so I've never been able to get myself to drop that much money when I'm already fairly happy.

+N64 Glenn Plant I had those at first (had 4 of them), but I felt there were too small, even for my tiny hands, thumbs kept touching. Also, the Z trigger was converter to 2 front shoulder buttons, making them hard to reach (unlike L triggering like they did for GameCube games like Zelda WW). Finally, playing games like Kirby 64 that requires the D-pad is impossible because not only is it small like the GameCube d-pad, but also because of it's position and proximity to the buttons.

+My Life in Gaming i tried writing something to explain how it handles but its just something to have to try for yourself. just buy one and if you dont like it just pack it away somewhere, sell it in a couple of years and brake even. that how i rationalise most of the gaming crap i buy :p

+My Life in Gaming yeah its really only useful for certain games. Take fzero x for example it gives you much tighter control when you get used to it but for other games the z button positioning isn't ideal which is why i still prefer the original for general gaming. plus most fighting games and the awesome THQ wrestling games are not playable with the hori mini pad. if you want to borrow one to try just let me know you can always borrow mine if you'd rather test it before dropping that much on one

Good question

It kind of looks like the octagonal housing piece is built into the controller mold on the LodgeNet, and if that's the case, it would take more work than unplugging/screwing parts. Not sure, though, just going off looks!

Actually, I have made the mod but with "64 stick" replacement (not the gamecube one). I gotta say it's not as hard to do and the results are pretty decent. I replaced four controllers and if I didn't tell you, you probably wouldn't notice at first sight which of my controllers are original and which have had their sticks replaced. Needless to day, It is not 100% the same. You can tell in games that require certain precision (tapping, tilting and accelerating falls in super smash, turning in any race game, using a first person item in Zelda, etc), now you need to keep exerting unnatural force to maintain the angle (could be because of the bigger dead zone). However, ALL the angles are covered, you just have to mind "oh, I'm not using an original stick, I have to be rougher". Finally, this does not fix the original flaw where the neutral position of the stick is wrongly REGISTERED by the games (you know, like the joystick pressing one direction forever, and needing to press and hold start, L and R to fix).

Jerome VV yeah. Nintendo made sure to put that info to fix the neutral position in every single manual. In Pokemon stadium, there is a digglet icon showing you if your stick has been "neutralized" in the wrong degree. If you do the trick, two hammers symbolizing L and R hit him and you regain the normal control. Incidentally, This issue can happen in cube and Wii. Unfortunately the only way to fix there is to unplug/plug the controllers.

@@richyroa on GameCube you can fix that by holding X, Y and Start for a second, no need to unplug