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Ever wish you could play your HD and 4K games in ultra low resolution 240p on a CRT television? Using custom firmware for a budget upscaler called GBS-Control, this is now possible at an affordable price. Coury takes a look at over 60 modern games on the Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, PC and lots more to see how they look and play at a fraction of their resolution.
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► Episode Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:30 - GBS-Control Overview
07:41 - Other Downscalers & Lag Testing with RetroRGB
13:01 - Downscaling Process
15:33 - Modern 3D Games (PS4 & Switch)
20:24 - Modern 2D Games (PS4 & Switch)
37:30 - PS3, XB360, PC
48:49 - Retro Games on HD Consoles
55:54 - Best of the Rest
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Комментарии : 795   
@albatrossfm
@albatrossfm 3 года назад
We’ve progressed too far and there’s nowhere left to go.... except backwards
@justachu5521
@justachu5521 3 года назад
correct!
@singletona082
@singletona082 3 года назад
Reject HD, go back to monki.
@12inch_monster
@12inch_monster 3 года назад
just when you think you couldn't nerd out anymore than where these guys take you
@daron9229
@daron9229 3 года назад
The plot of TeИet in a nutshell.
@jenniferlynn3579
@jenniferlynn3579 3 года назад
That sums up this video pretty well. I was very surprised this wasn't an April Fools Day video. This seems to go directly against everything MLiG stands for. RGB999: How to get a worse picture and aspect ratio from your games.
@SkulShurtugalTCG
@SkulShurtugalTCG 3 года назад
Final Fantasy VII Remake on a CRT--JUST like the developers wanted.
@_Wander.
@_Wander. 3 года назад
oh yeah!
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 3 года назад
I think it did improve the look of it. the Softer look helped mesh the textures better.
@Powerman293
@Powerman293 3 года назад
@@braddl9442 Fourtunatley the PS5 version seems to fix the textures
@daronofennell3474
@daronofennell3474 3 года назад
@@Powerman293 sadly.... its the PS5... lol jk
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 3 года назад
@@Powerman293 Yeah, seeing the drastically improved textures across all surfaces made it abundantly clear that SE just lowballed the hell out of the PS4's environmental texture res.
@blabo6427
@blabo6427 3 года назад
I spend maybe 1000$/€ in the framemeister, RGB cables from RetrogamingcablesUK for all my consoles, the best component cables, GCHD MKII, Bandridge svb7733 rgb switcher, RGB mods and an Mclassic to upscale all my retro consoles to glorious 1440p in my 4k TV. Now I want to downscale my HD consoles to 240p 🤤
@WodahsEht
@WodahsEht 3 года назад
The blips i believe are actually due to image brightness! I have experienced similar issues on my GBS 8200 until I put a 100 ohm resistor from the green Y terminal to ground to pull down the signal village a bit. Worked like a charm. The benefit has carried over to the upgrade I did to GBS control
@jamon1567
@jamon1567 3 года назад
Are you referring to what's going on very noticeably at 36:59 (and throughout the whole video)? It was seriously bothering me and I came into the comments and didn't see anyone else mention it but you. If this is something the GBS is doing, then I guess I'm out, but wanted to make sure it wasn't just my computer/monitor.
@WodahsEht
@WodahsEht 3 года назад
The GBS seems to be expecting signals outside the normal YPbPr spec. (Keep in mind it was originally intended to convert arcade machines to LCD.) It's fairly easy to add a resistor without soldering to test the theory.
@naliboi93
@naliboi93 3 года назад
Thanks for your comment. Now I'm curious. Say if Coury didn't use the HDMI to Component transcoder, but instead opted to use VGA input (via a hdmi to vga transcoder/convertor), would these blips still be present? From what you're saying, this seems to arise from using component input. I'm looking to see if I can do some 240p downscaling into my PAL CRT over SCART via a DIY GBS Control (and a decent RGBHV to RGBs sync combiner on the output). I want to see what issues I may run into and look for fixes.
@thomu8372
@thomu8372 2 года назад
I've been having the same issue with my retrotink 5x pro. Is there a way to add a resistor to this without having to open up the device? Perhaps in one of the hdmi to component converters?
@OpticalHaze
@OpticalHaze Год назад
eehr those blips are super noticable. I couldn't game like that with them.... ?!
@skankcor3
@skankcor3 3 года назад
There’s something about MLiG videos that just make you feel like a million bucks. Every time I get to the end of one of your videos, I’m grinning from ear to ear and grossly optimistic about gaming. Nothing else gets me more hyped up to play some games and have a good time. Thank you so much for all of your hard work!
@josetrochez5982
@josetrochez5982 2 года назад
You took the words out of my mind. Especially the intro music. Holy hell it's so nostalgic and gives me goosebumps.
@DrLilo
@DrLilo 3 года назад
I've been using GBS-Control for 240p downscale for several months now and I swear by it. I've been able to retire my faded low quality CRT computer monitor to the spare room, and now just use my 15khz PVM for all consoles including sixth gen.
@gamernaut8864
@gamernaut8864 3 года назад
This downscaler would seemingly be a perfect fit for those "classic" collections on gen 5 and 6 consoles that were criticized for their 480i resolutions. I'm talking about titles like Sega's Classic Collection and Genesis Collection as well as Sega's Smash Pack on the Dreamcast. Any 2D fighters from these eras that display in 480i could also benefit from this conversion. Great video.
@dan47483
@dan47483 3 года назад
I emulate everything so I'm not sure why I enjoy watching these videos so much. Guess that's a sign of great content.
@Nordlicht05
@Nordlicht05 3 года назад
For me it's both. But for example to buy all the interesting Saturn games ist top expensive. Only have the console with a mod. But i emulate many and even build an retropie arcade. But the original thing is fascinating for me!
@DenkyManner
@DenkyManner 3 года назад
Me too but I like to know the basis of what I'm emulating and what I should be aiming for visually. I like the compromise of clarity with some trappings of real hardware, like scaliness and extremely mild softening of the raw pixels
@axelkusanagi4139
@axelkusanagi4139 3 года назад
I used to talk such crap on emulators, because I was always picturing the bad ones who left a gross impression via audio, video artifacts. But emulation really has come a long way and it's q good backup or stopgap before I take the steep cost plunge of buying original hardware and putting in modwork.
@Nordlicht05
@Nordlicht05 3 года назад
@@axelkusanagi4139 crap?? i have all on Emulation too. But somethin in me wants the real deal... only sometimes. At least i want the original looking Controller for coming into the mood :D but on many repro Controllers the analoge pads are baaad. I have more emulation than physical games. 5 NES and maybe 11 or 12 SNES 1 Saturn and 4 Wii Games. This year it got an original Saturn. First Sega System i touched in my life!
@RetroTechUSA
@RetroTechUSA 3 года назад
You know I love seeing so much CRT in one video. GREAT Stuff and thanks for showcasing this device. Gotta get that Vertical Scroll fixed.
@KBABZ
@KBABZ 3 года назад
This is so cool, great job once again! I am surprised though that with how many times the Chrono Cross problem has been brought up, the fact that the PS1's boot sequence and menus has never been mentioned. I've never been able to hear the full PS1 boot since getting an OSSC!
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 3 года назад
[Try4ce] Yeah that's sad too, but nothing that ruins any games. Three menu thing is a problem because it's during gameplay and the games are unplayable.
@KBABZ
@KBABZ 3 года назад
@@mylifeingaming I was honestly surprised when I saw it, I wasn't expecting it and I never noticed as a kid. Do any other consoles of that generation use 480i/p for their base menus?
@kruks
@kruks 3 года назад
Saturn has the same behavior in some games. I couldn't find a list, but Radiant Silvergun, Thunder Force V, Die Hard Arcade, and Dead or Alive all have sync issues from resolution switching.
@Dark_Jaguar
@Dark_Jaguar 3 года назад
I keep wondering if a solution might be for the renderer to actually "see" and respond to that signal in real time after every frame, simply composing it's signal with the blanked scan lines either odd or even based entirely on that real time measure instead of the current method which has to actively switch into semi-fixed "modes" of operation. In other words, it would be a 480p signal every time with the timing signal at the end of each frame telling the OSSC where to insert blank lines. I feel like if the processor could run fast enough to make that on-the-fly rendering, then it would "naturally" work without any notable gap where it was switching modes.
@kreb_
@kreb_ 3 года назад
I’ve been eyeing the GBS control for this exact reason for a grip but was intimidated. Thank you SO much!
@sonoftherobin4499
@sonoftherobin4499 3 года назад
What a cool and unique trip this was! Thank you so much for this episode!
@MojojoJenkins
@MojojoJenkins 3 года назад
I have basically zero desire to ever do this, but damn I love your videos! Each one is basically a deep-dive documentary on a gaming topic and it's amazing!
@rafammbass
@rafammbass 3 года назад
This whole channel is better than anything on netflix. Great work guys
@KeybladeMasterAndy
@KeybladeMasterAndy 3 года назад
I dunno. Netflix has some diamonds in the rough. I know exactly what you're getting at, though.
@no_misaki
@no_misaki 3 года назад
My what a trendy thing to say
@zombiemachinery4868
@zombiemachinery4868 Год назад
I bought the components and a friend of mine built it for me. I can't wait to put my hands on that thing.
@groovesalad89
@groovesalad89 3 года назад
What a great video guys! Thank you! Watched it on my 36"" widescreen Toshiba HD CRT. Use it for all modern stuff. Natural colors and motion on CRTs - the best!
@justcallmebones
@justcallmebones 3 года назад
I would love to see Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10 downscaled as they were never released as 240p titles on WiiWare. Only 480i. I believe the other versions support 480p+.
@RedWolfy7
@RedWolfy7 3 года назад
It's always a joy when MLIG tests such a niche idea for no other reason but because they can. That is some true game love right there. Thank you for all your hard work guys.
@rickylovesyou
@rickylovesyou 3 года назад
Yes true, although I'd never go this far myself as it's seems way to convoluted to even spend money on its still fascinating stuff.
@anolte7
@anolte7 3 года назад
This was very cathartic for me! I've always been curious about this subject. Love it!
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 3 года назад
This is the kind of RU-vid content I live for. Great video, MLiG!
@briannorthFW
@briannorthFW 3 года назад
Very cool video, I can see why it took so long to put together. It was interesting to see how these titles looked in 240p downscaled from their original resolution. 100% correct, probably most won’t take the time to fiddle just for mixed results, but there is something to playing some of these on a CRT!
@jeffhampton6972
@jeffhampton6972 3 года назад
These videos are so well put together. Thank you SO much!
@BeyondGhibli
@BeyondGhibli 3 года назад
What a treat this video was! I'd never have thought to check out what modern consoles look like on CRT but I'm so glad you did, every game was such an enjoyable little experiment to witness.... but now you've got me back on eBay looking for PVMs... >_
@rars0n
@rars0n 3 года назад
Honestly, I don't think PVMs are worth it, at least not for me. There are plenty of good consumer grade CRTs just sitting around waiting to be trashed. My girlfriend brought home a 27" Trinitron that her coworker was trying to get rid of. Her coworker didn't understand why anyone would want a CRT television. This particular Trinitron has composite and S-video, and while I would have preferred component as well, I was shocked by how good the Sega Saturn looks even over composite. The colors and black levels are SO much better than my HDTV, I vastly prefer this set regardless of input used. 27" is my sweet spot. Anything bigger is going to be significantly heavier. I had a 32" Panasonic Tau CRT that I bought right near the end of CRT manufacturing, and while that TV had a great picture, it was literally 200 lbs and a pain in the ass to move. I ended up giving it away just so that I wouldn't have to move it again. Luckily, last year my work was getting rid of some old electronics including a 27" version of the same Tau that I had, so I got dibs on it. It's a true flat-tube TV with component input, a really great comb filter for composite signals, and something like 800 lines of horizontal resolution. The downside is that it's much heavier than the Sony, at nearly 110 lbs. But that's right on the edge of what I'm willing to deal with in terms of weight. My point being, I was looking into buying a 14" Sony PVM (20" was just too expensive and heavy for my taste), and while that might be fine for a desk setup, I decided that 14" was too small for a main gaming monitor. I like playing light gun games with my girlfriend, and a 27" is big enough for that. While a PVM will certainly give you a slightly better picture, I think the jump from going from an LCD flat panel TV back to a consumer CRT is much greater than going from CRT to PVM. PVMs are more of a pain to set up, they're heavier for a given size, and shipping one is a huge risk. With the Panasonic TV, I can plug all of my consoles in via component and get RGB-quality video without any of the hassle of actually using an RGB monitor. Just some things to keep in mind. For me, a PVM just didn't make much sense because I wanted a simple setup and a larger screen size, and the image quality of a PVM wasn't enough to justify the cost and hassle, especially when I had access to some perfectly good TVs for free. If you ask around, you'll probably find someone that has one that they're not using and will happily give to you. Even if it's a "crappy" set, just take it home and give it a try and you might be surprised by how much better you like it for older games.
@hugevibez
@hugevibez 3 года назад
How are you not verified? All you need to do is ask Google support
@browsingstuffaimlessly4663
@browsingstuffaimlessly4663 3 года назад
I happened upon an abandoned Sony Trinitron TV in an attic space. I hooked up most of my retro consoles using composite running through multiple AV selectors and splitters. I have the signal split to go to the Trinitron and an old Zenith portable CRT TV (what makes it portable is the handle and car adapter). All of my old games look significantly better on it and I cannot go back to playing them on a modern LCD monitor. There is one exception: To stream the games onto my capture card, I got an AV to HDMI converter with built in screen ratio settings. The icing on the cake was recently getting a Genki Shadowcast allowing me to play the games on my computer monitor and manage game capture software all on the same screen.
@peterk1837
@peterk1837 3 года назад
This is excellent. I've been so curious about this. Thanks! On a side, I totally envy your ability to record a crt screen so well.
@fargoretro
@fargoretro 3 года назад
I've been using my PS3 directly hooked up to my Sony PVM with RBG cables, and it's absolutely amazing!
@PUDINHED
@PUDINHED 3 года назад
This is amazing, you did a good job covering what I'd like to see as well. Thank you!
@jimmyhopkins1
@jimmyhopkins1 3 года назад
holy crap guys an hour of content must have been a massive amount of work, great work cant wait to watch.
@WickedRibbon
@WickedRibbon 3 года назад
This is such a cool video. Thanks for testing so many games!
@michaelisola.401
@michaelisola.401 3 года назад
Even though I will never even be able to do this, it's so incredibly cool. Great vid as always!
@whiskeyvengeance
@whiskeyvengeance 3 года назад
Awesome topic covered in a super thorough, entertaining and professional way. Awesome work as always. 👌
@AaronRose2421
@AaronRose2421 3 года назад
You guys never disappoint. Underrated channel.
@technozombie789
@technozombie789 3 года назад
The word your looking for is underappreciated, not underrated. This channel is highly rated as it should be.
@XZ-III
@XZ-III 3 года назад
@@technozombie789 I like that, that makes more sense
@AaronRose2421
@AaronRose2421 3 года назад
@@technozombie789 yeah I agree!
@brandonlee7382
@brandonlee7382 2 года назад
They deserve 1 million subscribers, like they put so much effort into their videos!
@Riylo
@Riylo 3 года назад
One of my new favorite videos on this channel.
@zachammer666
@zachammer666 3 года назад
I have been waiting for coverage like this since I got my GBS-C AIO!
@SatoshiMatrix1
@SatoshiMatrix1 3 года назад
It's already sold out. Do you know who I contact to try to get one?
@electronraygun6346
@electronraygun6346 3 года назад
Wow! This arrived at the perfect moment for me! I was just about to figure out how to do this but you've basically shown me exactly how to do it! People might think I'm crazy but I love gaming on monitors from my childhood! Now every system I own can potentially display through my old monitors! :-)
@BrianHTKD
@BrianHTKD 3 года назад
Great find! I’ve been curious about downscaling for a while, good to know.
@terminalphilosophy8760
@terminalphilosophy8760 3 года назад
Nice work Coury! An hour long video is a ton of work, well done sir!
@cedarvalleygaming
@cedarvalleygaming 3 года назад
The black ceiling tiles turned out well, the install looks good! As always, great video.
@nicholasallen9035
@nicholasallen9035 3 года назад
I think this is a fun episode, thanks for making it Coury. It's somewhat interesting to me too because I'm making a software based 3D game engine for low resolutions that I specifically hoped to run on a CRT, and at true 240p would be nice too.
@swampfoxstudios
@swampfoxstudios 3 года назад
This video is so cool! Nice to see that some modern game design holds up so well on older televisions.
@jamescurrie01
@jamescurrie01 3 года назад
Fantastic video. Coury you did an amazing job, this made my friday.
@twotone8357
@twotone8357 3 года назад
Man. I'm so glad I was able to snag a GBS-C AIO for those few hours they were available.
@romiers
@romiers 3 года назад
Great episode! I’m always impressed by the depth of your content. Legit the best damned retro channel on the internet.
@roelpollaert1337
@roelpollaert1337 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing this downscale adventure, great quality as always in your show! Somehow it’s just cool to downscale these newer games and to see those scanlines pop-up. There are lots of games left to try. Maybe someone could make a list of the best downscaled games. Marvel vs capcom 3 is also a great game to play in 240p
@briangarvin8867
@briangarvin8867 3 года назад
Excellent insight - thanks for the all the hard work and effort to qualify your points & helpful observations and conclusions; always exceptional content keep up the great FPGA Mister content too
@_Wander.
@_Wander. 3 года назад
Nice! I've been wanting to play my Nintendo Switch on crt. like 80% of the games i own are classic pixel art or inspired by such. nice video! always look forward to your guys' uploads c:
@Squalid
@Squalid 3 года назад
This video is so cool, thanks! (I still use a CRT TV, but not for gaming, they never break and I will keep using it as long as possible)
@MikeTheGamerGuy
@MikeTheGamerGuy 3 года назад
Never going to touch this myself, but it was really interesting to see you test all these games.
@theblubus
@theblubus 3 года назад
Once thing I was waiting to be mentioned was using the switch's screen adjustment settings to tweak the height and width of the displayed image. It's a feature deep in the switch's settings menu and applies system-wide. I used to to adjust for parts of the image falling off screen when I converted the switch's HDMI signal into component for a retro display. Worked great for me!
@EposVox
@EposVox 3 года назад
This was quite the episode! Modern consoles look great on a HD-capable BVM too ;)
@BigPandaGamer
@BigPandaGamer 3 года назад
That random Sunshine Coastline was really cool, Cory should try to show more gameplay of Falcom games on videos so more people know them
@jamiepogue6024
@jamiepogue6024 3 года назад
I wonder if something like Star Wars Squadrons would just look like watching the original trilogy on VHS.
@MusicDiscoveryNet
@MusicDiscoveryNet 3 года назад
a one hour episode? this is the nerdiest thing I*ve seen so far, and I'm into nostalgic gaming since many years now :D
@unoclayGaming
@unoclayGaming 3 года назад
this gave me chills, because i have never thought of the idea of downscaling stuff for faux retro before. It is a rare day when one encounters a brand new idea. Wow.
@The90sGamingGuy
@The90sGamingGuy 3 года назад
Sonic Mania abd Blazing Chrome look great on a CRT. Playimg both games with Retro Bits wireless Genesis controller is a blast. Great video you guys always hit it out of the park with these videos.
@jonhohle
@jonhohle 3 года назад
This is such perfect timing. I just ordered an 8220 for exactly this purpose.
@BennyBsolo
@BennyBsolo 3 года назад
Thanks , I have always wanted to be able to downscale the Xbox 360 Shmup Collection to 240p. Thanks for the knowledge.
@andremalerba5281
@andremalerba5281 3 года назад
Woooow awesome video! Congrats for the great work! If you ever decide to try a few more games, please include Blaster Master Zero to the list!
@walteravila4072
@walteravila4072 3 года назад
So cool, love this one so much. I been playing new games on a WIDE CRT with S VIDEO, lots of games gain a special flavor with CRT, specially horror games, like Evil Within, RE 7, Outlast or Alien Isolation, also Dark Souls, specially 1 & 2, Minit, Undertale, Celeste, a lot of modern pixel games looks amazing.
@robinmasters150
@robinmasters150 3 года назад
great vidéo guys. 👍👍👍. hope to see more on 480i to 240p downscaling though
@EthanBolli
@EthanBolli 3 года назад
Love this video. I threw together a GBSC just a few months ago and am very happy with this cheap scaler. My diy version is certainly "a jumble of wires and pcbs, just a mess." I've mostly been using it to upscale extra consoles that aren't in my crt setup to my 4k living room tv. I'm very exited to learn about the motion adaptive deinterlacing mentioned tword the beginning of the episode, I wonder if this can do away with the flicker from 480i ps2 games on a crt. All together my GBS control cost less than $50 to put together (scart input, sync cleaner, clock gen, etc...) and the scaling is definitely good enough in my eyes not to shell out for an OSSC.
@mikematthews8796
@mikematthews8796 3 года назад
Awesome video! Would’ve loved to see either Ori game in 240p but I think you guys have a thoughtful sample of games here!
@Glacier_Nester
@Glacier_Nester 3 года назад
Farcry 3: Blood Dragon looks like it would fit in PERFECTLY in an old railshooter type setup from the 90s, and it's WILD how well some of these games downscale. fascinating stuff!
@bfums
@bfums 3 года назад
What happens if you feed the 240p back into an OSSC and upscale it?
@Sandlerverse
@Sandlerverse 3 года назад
The real questions here
@jonniefast
@jonniefast 2 года назад
lmao plz
@-dash
@-dash 2 года назад
Upscale that, capture and record to DVD. Capture it, encoding to Divx. De-noise and upscale to 8k. Downscale.
@Keblade91
@Keblade91 2 года назад
that's what I do sometimes. I line triple to 720p + scanlines and some games look really good. only downside is the aspect ratio squish
@sergiomanzanares6817
@sergiomanzanares6817 3 года назад
This was really interesting and it was so well made. You just earned a sub from me
@hatorihanzoii7447
@hatorihanzoii7447 3 года назад
Hardcorps Uprising at least still looks great at 480i, had fun playing it on my CRT, great video as always guys
@kfishwick3
@kfishwick3 3 года назад
I've got one of those 16:9 widescreen trinitron CRTs so I'm looking forward to trying this out
@foxhoundra6444
@foxhoundra6444 3 года назад
Saw Phantasy Star Online disc in the thumbnail, instantly gotta watch that
@electronash
@electronash 3 года назад
Great vid again, guys. Thanks. I have a theory about the small sync glitches in downscaling mode. Maybe it's because the vertical refresh rate from the GBS-C is set too close to what the consoles are outputting. ie. it might be expecting the source to be say 59.94Hz, but the consoles are outputting at exactly 60Hz. So the two frame rates are very close to eachother, but still asyncronous, so it's spending a bit too long swapping the framebuffers when the incoming and outgoing frame rates "line up". Like at 10:13, where the input to that scaler is async to the output. Try changing the output refresh rate on the GBS-C to something else, like even 50 Hz (if your BVM accepts 50 Hz, probably?) Just a thought, as it would be quick to test. ;)
@fourmthree
@fourmthree 3 года назад
Incredible work as ever.
@diegocrusius
@diegocrusius 3 года назад
another great video from this channel
@DadLadsGaming
@DadLadsGaming 3 года назад
Brilliant. Need to get one of these now 👍🏻👍🏻
@lcvolt1546
@lcvolt1546 3 года назад
I had just started researching this yesterday!
@ViolentDetour
@ViolentDetour 3 года назад
Watching you play these new games on a CRT makes me think back when I first played a 3D game. Seeing FFVII Remake on a CRT is what my memory tells me the original looked like back when it was brand new. Great video!
@beansoup1088
@beansoup1088 3 года назад
Thank you so much, very interesting video! 💪
@RetroTechUSA
@RetroTechUSA 3 года назад
Oh yeah, next time turn your PVM off before switching to TATE mode or you may end up with Purity issues.
@lolcat
@lolcat 3 года назад
I believe retroarch has native CRT output available
@officegossip
@officegossip 2 года назад
Is that so? I keep hearing about this but im worried about input lag from my nes mini to crt tv.
@neongaminglp8071
@neongaminglp8071 3 года назад
Really great video. Btw because of SCART we in Europe can hook up consoles up to the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii U easily to our CRTs. This is really awesome and I reasently play many games of that era on my CRT just because I like the look.
@dariusthunder
@dariusthunder 3 года назад
Loved the episode idea. Now you need to do a guide to how to do the same downscaling with directly through the PC without the extra hardware (if it's even possible), where most of my indie pixel-art games are, lol ^^
@Thomas-ut7tm
@Thomas-ut7tm 3 года назад
I'm a simple man. I see Bob, I upvote. Great video guys! Looks like I have some more hardware to purchase!
@shadowbugx
@shadowbugx 3 года назад
I play a lot of games in my 480i sony vega. Yes mayor problem overall is text in games. When it comes to PC. A tool you really need is an application called "borderless gaming" that way you can fullscreen many games in a better way. also filters like sweetFX for cropping the image. a And of course an old GPU that can natively output component/s-video/composite. (better if is as 2nd gpu for output tv output). Nice video. I've been looking for downscalers a lot.. retroarch is a wonderful emulator for the Vsync options. NICE video btw!
@moondoor9031
@moondoor9031 3 года назад
It's quite amusing how Aerith looks cute even in 240p
@therevdidntdeserveit
@therevdidntdeserveit 3 года назад
As one of the zerohimself techs who spent hundreds of hours over several months troubleshooting, developing, and building the GBSC-AIOs it feels great to see some love on here ❤️
@twotone8357
@twotone8357 3 года назад
thank you for your work. i absolutely love this little device.
@dr.rotwang
@dr.rotwang 3 года назад
I love everything about this video. Seeing all these modern games in downscaled CRT glory was something to behold. However I must admit that given your obvious love for the CRT I am kind of surprised you haven't tracked down a late model HD CRT for more modern game play. Something like a Sony KV-30HS420 for instance. It has a big tube, is 16:9 widescreen, has HDMI input, can display up to 1080i, the works. If you really want CRT look and quality with modern games something like this might be right up your alley.
@mylifeingaming
@mylifeingaming 3 года назад
[Try4ce] I used to have an HD CRT (a 36 inch 4:3 Sony version), but it was just too dangerously heavy to move or do anything with. Eventually I got rid of it so I could have room to do things with proper 15kHz CRTs. There definitely are perks to playing 480i or 480p games on an HD CRT, but even my first fixed-pixel 720p LCD TV from 2010 could show more detail in PS3 games than my HD CRT. I feel it's a technology that neither has the full benefits of analog or digital, and has a very narrow set of consoles that really shine on it. Just my opinion, though. I may have just resented the space it took up more than anything. :)
@dr.rotwang
@dr.rotwang 3 года назад
@@mylifeingaming Yes they do have a somewhat narrow range of consoles that can truly take advantage of them, but those that can look amazing. Where they really shine is when you track down one of the 16:9 models and can run stuff like OG Xbox games in widescreen. Now I can certainly understand the space and weight concerns. No arguments there that is for sure. I've got a couple of beast CRTs that top out over 200lbs myself. I get a new hernia every time I dust in the game room. XD
@kirbyofthestars2269
@kirbyofthestars2269 3 года назад
I'm gonna use this info to play CAVE shooters and Radiant Silvergun. I just got my first CRT monitor so you guys are just in time. 😎
@rickylovesyou
@rickylovesyou 3 года назад
Why would Radiant Silvergun need this assistance? Its already in this format.
@kintozero3169
@kintozero3169 3 года назад
@@rickylovesyou The original on Sega Saturn is in this format, the Xbox 360 rerelease is not.
@h0laPlaneta
@h0laPlaneta 3 года назад
Can't wait for the comparison with the new Retrotink 5x pro!
@briangarvin8867
@briangarvin8867 3 года назад
Very useful exploration especially since the Cuphead insight made we weep and feel like I was in an original Disney classic so thanks again
@snintendog
@snintendog 3 года назад
Still waiting for someone to just make a Board to control a CRT with all the modern stuff. The next Would be a revival of SED tvs that never got out of Preproduction.
@Powerman293
@Powerman293 3 года назад
Unfourtunatley that would cost millions in R&D that'll never happen to get SED going again.
@snintendog
@snintendog 3 года назад
@@Powerman293 ...SEDs were simpler than LCDs at the time soo meh to R&D Balloons. IF anything CRTs have already proven that 1080p(rather high line res is more proper term) ETC is possible after all they exist OLEDs and Shit arent improving at all and the industry is hyper focused on the numbers of pixels they can jam into a display but we are getting to the point of minor to zilch for improvement the HD TVs of today are pretty much the HD tvs of 2006 the price went down. As it is Displays despite the "advancements" havent done shit at all and are still playing catchup with alot of feature lost from a CRT. People only can care about numbers soo much before losing interest entirely "oh bigger number its better but i cant tell 4k onward it all looks the same washed out but detailed" We are already seeing it slightly with smart TVs it has to do something innovative or be different like transparent displays otherwise customers dont care and enthuists already see past the marketing BS with colour and response being the factors that matter which we lead back to CRTs still reigning supreme in that category. SEDs were the best of both worlds and should be obvious path going forwards. Its only a matter of time now.
@no_misaki
@no_misaki 3 года назад
@@snintendog Take your meds
@BrokenCircus
@BrokenCircus 3 года назад
I actually fancied doing this with some PC games, but the tvOne devices and so on were just way too rare and expensive. Thanks for showing this off! ...now I can actually play the original Daytona USA in 4:3 with a steering wheel. Ooooooh.
@thanksbetotap
@thanksbetotap 3 года назад
Please do another episode on 480i to 240p downscaling, Coury!
@ArfaInk
@ArfaInk 3 года назад
Finally, I got to see Scott pilgrim vs the word on cry down scaled to 240p!
@phobos2k2
@phobos2k2 3 года назад
Wow, interesting stuff! I did a double take at that Genesis at 49:31 before I realized it was a mini. XD
@tankgrrl
@tankgrrl 3 года назад
This is wonderful, and an experiment I didn't know I needed. :) It also shows how weird our little hobby is: "Oh, no, this game has too many pixels, let's get rid of about 2 million of them." hehe
@gamesibeat
@gamesibeat 3 года назад
Some Sony Trinitrons have a built in 16:9 'experimental' mode. It would be interesting to see this used on one of those.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 3 года назад
or just to use an 16:9 480p crt tv. i have one.
@liamsemicolon
@liamsemicolon Год назад
@@GraveUypo those process the signal digitally, iirc. that means lag is inherent to them
@rfmerrill
@rfmerrill 3 года назад
burst of nostalgia from that gradius V music
@rootfelixfake6716
@rootfelixfake6716 3 года назад
I am shocked by the amount of amazing looking games I never heard of are here.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 3 года назад
Whoa, that transformers game looks so cool, hearing that original transformation sound was so awesome and nostalgic.
@RetroHellspawn
@RetroHellspawn 3 года назад
While I love the video overall, I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed at a couple things in the PC segment. One, you could've used a VGA cable (perhaps HDMI/DVI to RGB/VGA adapter which are readily available on amazon/ebay) to remove the stutter in the signal which might've fixed a lot of the problems you saw with games like Wizorb. Two, NO CAVE STORY?! There's a *plethora* of PC games that are styled in the vein of classic console titles, and I'm a bit disappointed that the PC segment took something of a back-seat in this episode. I could make a whole list of just what I know of in my library of Steam/GOG games, but there's many sources for you to pull from that natively will fullscreen at 480p. RU-vid videos, Wikipedia articles, listicles, etc. Then again, maybe the GBS wouldn't be ideal for that kind of scenario, instead making the Framemeister a more viable solution to those cases. Maybe this could have a follow-up feature covering PC games that work well on a PVM? I swear, it could have its own hour (or more) long video with how many great Indie games are available in these styles of games. Not even just 2D games, but many PS1-style games as well! I recommend checking out the games included in the Haunted PS1 Demo Discs (a compilation of demos for games made from various Indies in the PS1 3D style), as well as many classic style FPS games like DUSK, Amid Evil, Heavy Bullets, Project Warlock, Ion Maiden... Another sub-set of games I could make a laundry list of. Rambling aside, I still love the show, and I did overall really love this video! It's great seeing how well many of these retro-inspired games translated to a PVM, as well as how many flopped that *should* have worked! As usual, I'm looking forward to the next video! 😁
@tutucatm2267
@tutucatm2267 3 года назад
I was hoping to see Sonic Mania and Streets of Rage 4 and I wasn't dissapointed, cool video
@personavisceration371
@personavisceration371 3 года назад
When nostalgia goggles just don't get the job done anymore.
@chunk0354
@chunk0354 3 года назад
GBS control let’s goooo. I HEAVILY modded mine. When I was looking into scalers a while back it was between this and the retrotink. Ultimately chose this cause 1. Waaay cheaper. 2. I personally don’t like how soft the retrotink outputs, at least when I saw it a while back, in fairness it may have changed by now.
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