Fountain Hooks Timestamps 25:55 - There's the hook, Hao! Brought all the way back to the base! Cleaned up by the fountain. 32:52 - There it is, yup! Banana going for a ride on the Dendi Express. Welcome, to the well. 36:27 - Dendi is gonna try it again, can he? Got him that time. See you in the base, Mu. Welcome home! 47:54 - Ohhh he got him!! He got him! 49:25 - There we go, the hook! Got him. SanSheng taking the long ride to Shanghai. Welcome home. 56:19 - Navi... He got him! One more! This is what you call "One for the Road".
This is the Navi I loved, this is the Navi I cheered, this is the Navi I remember. But today, I am not so sure anymore. I hope one day Navi comes back to this level of excellence, and then I will love, cheer and re-remember!
Omar Joseph Yep, I am very disappointed of Navi in group stage. I've been a Team Secret fan since Puppey and Kuro left Navi and im not regretting. What a team. #dreamteam
Omar Joseph I would be happy if Navi is in Top 8 this year. They have been struggling for a longtime and realistically that what we can hope for. I would still watch their game since I WERE a fan, but I wont be VERY excited like, if I watch a Secret game for example.
Probably the best played game I've ever seen. Navi got completely outdrafted and just played out of their minds. Funn1k was hitting insane shackles all over the place. Kuroky got a ton of great impales, the timing between Dendi and Puppey was iffy, but when it mattered they made fantastic plays.
1987retroman Dendi was awful in the game but it doesn't matter how many times you miss when landing a fountain hook at anytime is a guaranteed kill. It's a no risk high reward play and I'm glad it was removed from the game. Tong Fu played better but not banning Pudge after seeing Chen was a bad move.
I couldn't really disagree more, though I am glad it's out of the competitive scene. Navi didn't really have a pick/fighting lineup. The fountain hook is also a very risky play since if Tongfu decides to take a fight after a missed hook its 4v5
+Disen Fountain hooks are high risk high reward. Professional players are too hard to properly hook and when it misses, that it one guy out from the teamfight.
That was a CLASSIC game! Who didn't like that one (regardless fan of who he is), dont have a clue about Dota. Just amazing game series, we can be happy to witness that kind of epic shiat :)
I have been playing DotA for 7 yrs now still remember the emergence of this game . Na'Vi you have made DotA 2 what is in 2017. Your sportive brilliance and innovation have amazed the world! The true GODS OF DOTA!
que bonitos recuerdos, es increíble pensar que ya han pasado más de 8 años, ver estas partidas me hacen recordar parte de mi adolescencia~ muy buena partida, me hizo recordar la emoción de un buen dota
Guys, don't say Na'vi are noobs just because they did that. I know, it's too overpowered, but, why don't you blame other teams for playing heroes that are OP? A lot of heroes are so OP in DotA, you just push a button and then you rampage. And fountain hooking isn't so easy to do. You have to synchronyze so good, you must not hook to early or to late, and it's easy to move arount to counter it. It's just a mechanic, (like most of us said, a bit overpowered) but it was in the game.
"You just push a button and you get a rampage" Please tell me about this magical creature because I don't know a single hero that can do that against a decent team.
STFU with all those ft hook....thats why they are called Natus Vincere !!! we all love NaVi...the game play they show to us not the common 1 used by others...keeping 1 carry farm and be a hero at the late game ? well it's fail though !! Natus Vincere Rules !!
Everybody loves NA'VI even when they lost the final against Alliance. I hope to see again that Chen+Pudge Combo if the team of dota and valve put again that bug in the future :3
SweetZombiJesus it's true, many don't get it but it is not a bug, you hook someone and you get teleported along with your hook and at the end of the hook is the hooked hero which, obviously, comes along. it makes sense. i actually feel bad they removed it. i'm tired of all the crying and bitching, this shit ain't easy to pull i mean proffesional players in the greatest e-sports event can't do it right sometimes, even they fail, now think about doing this in pub games with regular players. ppl bitch that they won because of it and it sounds like it's so easy any noob could do it, but i respect them even more for giving us such an amazing game/show, out of the ordinary! Na'Vi is awesome!!
Well u say this fountain hooking is a nice thing but navi fans cry about splitpush splitpush is much more skill dependend cause 1 hook to fountain changes a game conpletely even he missed so much hooks thats what u call skill? Its his best hero so its not that hard even in pubs u could do this quite easy
Im watching this in 2018, trying to remember and compare what navi was and what navi is today. A team that has shaped the history of dota now seems to be a team fading and losing their relevance to the game today. It warms my heart to watch this yet it also makes it bleed...
After I saw how Loda threw a fit about those fountain hooks, I was expecting the hooks actually worked ALL the time. Looks like it was something that's very hard to do.
Ya IKR! I think some 30% of the fountain hooks worked this game, and every time it didn't work, it just felt like Tongfu had so much space on the map to do whatever they wanted. But hey, if those 30% fountain hooks lands on Aegis Gyrocopter, then who cares about all the other failed ones?
The combo is an overpowered glitch that ruins the game. With game breaking glitches like fountain hook, dota 2 will never get ahead of lol. Fuck Navi, bunch of useless cheating dweebs.
Derp Herp its not cheating, its tactic. If theyre cheating, they shouldve used some kind of software. And if youre scared of dendi playing pudge,why not just ban pudge.
The look on brunos face when maelk was speaking about hating the fountain hook and the fact he said 'deal with it' leaves no doubt that he is icefrog... What a game
Na'Vi aren't Noobs just because they used a 'bug' or a 'glitch' how some idiots call it. They are an awesome team with skill to execute it. And we all want our favorite team to win but we also want entertainment. You idiots don't hear the crowd happy when they did a fountain hook?
yeah, i see that, but they still shouldn't win though. I'ts okay to have showmanship in a tournament like this, but they didn't deserve to go to the finals. I feel bad for TongFu for losing against dirty exploits of a glitch in the game
chr1s657 A glitch of the game? Are you serious? This FEATURE has been in the game since over 5 years. EVERYBODY knew about it. Don't want to play against it? Ban either Chen or Pudge. It's a shame it got removed. I'm not even a fan of navi but saying that the win is unfair is pathetic.
Dendi is undoubtedly the best DotA player in the history of the game. The fountain hook is one of the most difficult things to do in the game and it is executed very well by Dendi.
Ok, let's get this from the beginning. Each team has a 5 pick/5 ban hero in the start of the game! Chen is Puppey's signature hero, Pudge is Dendi's signature hero, you give an Alch to Xboct who farms like crazy and you already played a game against a Dendi Pudge and got raped. I call it "Not learning from your mistakes tbh", I don't like the playstyle of chinese teams, it's just B O R I N G to watch! Now, to reach the point where fountain hook is a bug, it's not a bug, it excisted since Dota 1and if you have the skills necessary, feel free to use it! It's not a casual game to have fun, it's a fucking international championship with pressure and high stakes, so to execute something so difficult like this in a match that important, you are destined to win. I don't feel sorry for Tongfu, they picked their strategy, Na'Vi picked theirs, best strategy won, end of story. The Pudge hooks stall the game, but when missed, TongFu should be aggressive. They were not aggressive, so they gave time to XBoct to farm/comeback and carry the game. Simple as hell...!!! So chill out and gg wp
Νίκος Βαγ. But you can't complain about NA'VI fountain hooking since it requires the two heroes. You see a Pudge picked by them? Ban Chen. You see a Chen? Ban Pudge. Frankly I think teams should just ban Pudge all the time against Dendi because otherwise they just insta lose lol.
Νίκος Βαγ. With Split pushing it's only one hero, and it's a bitch strategy. It's a "I'm too scared to fight so haha I'm winning the game without fighting while you're actually trying to win the game with fighting" strategy.
well, we wish to know what they think as fans, like us. We really feel them very close to us cause they think and say what we think, sharing their opinion is good! Greatings from Perú!
I never really hated them.They are born to win, this strat prooved it.They were able to win the game by any means, also the only ones who ran pudge a lot.Todays pudge is almost extinct, all is lategame and I hate that.
I WENT TO SLEEP THINKING OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT LOOSERS BRACKET..AND NOW I WILL WATCH A LIFE-CHANGING MOMENT I'VE MISSED! I FEEL SO PROUD AND ASHAMED AT THE SAME TIME....
Also, as in the Gladiators of the past, making a grand show is all part of the experience. Did you not hear the crowd go nuts when Dendi gets Pudge? And did you not hear them go nuts with each fountain pull? EPIC!!!
mainstream dota is the dumbest thing to do on a game like this :D its like:"ok we lose but we play dota with honor." no pro player ever said that sentence :)
Kuroda Kazuki no. u cant say that by a game like dota. ti3 final game navi vs alliance. some ppl call the splitpush combo clever and some ppl say its rat dota ( cause they didnt rly fight 5 on 5) so ur comment is wrong.
TheDanishBully it does make sense, the combo no longer works. If Pudge hooks someone then goes to a new location (blink, force staff, relocate, Chen sendback) The hooked target will be hooked to the location where pudge was when he threw the hook. Please read patch notes.
If you watch closely on the key fountain hook that catches the gyro with aegis Doombringer Doom's Chen no more than half a second after Chen sends Dendi home. The window to execute that was so tiny and it completely decided the game.
Doing a Pudge Hook with Chen is very risky, I Remember spectating this game and commenting how it can backfire and they have to be careful and I remember everyone thinking this might go the wrong way ... then a few key hooks came in and well Damn
Na'Vi best team ever highest level of showmaking by pure skill perfect execution of unorthodox tactics and playstye composed by real knoledge of the game plus no fear to play. This team owns numerous legendary series and matches in dota history mostly with Wins. Its funny every player had such unique personality, style and a lot of chemistry, i refeer a lot to TI2 lineup with LightOfHeaven for me one of the best to ever play the game. But i respect and value this line-up with funnik and kuro they made a incredible job keeping up the abdormal high level required to not affect the consistency the team had already achieved.
I completely understand your mentality about winning using any possible method. As I said - the same people who support the fountain hook will support infinites. And there will always be people who focus all their energy on winning, and who don't have the time to distract themselves with improving the game or changing the game. And then there are people who question, wonder, and who later design the games that become the future of competitive gaming. Ideas built to improve on existing games.
Without the fountain hook navi would lost it but they know what to do. They defed it and xboct farmed and farmed in this time and so they won. That is not lame that is tactik if u have no options. Puppey best captain !!!
Fountain hooking and stacking both started out as bugs, but are kept in the game. The pros say it was and so did the creator, it was one of the things that started off as a bug, but ended up being a key mechanic apart of the game. (A fortunate accident one could say)
Sickest comeback EVER, I can understand you're butt hurt that a team you supported loses . But even the haters can't deny that the plays made by dendi pudge and puppey Shen had such miraculous communication. It was awesome to watch and even if it's a bug, the timing required to pull those fountain hooks off is incredible hard and to pull them off consistently and on such high prio targets. Props to them for that, so even if you dislike the outcome at least respect the skill required for it.
Yeah a lot of people try this in the pubs that I play and fail horribly. One team did this even when they were ahead and ended up throwing their game away because they failed this a few times. The more it is done the less shock factor it has and people know how to play against it and counter it.
this reminds me that years ago when i watched a game of Manchester United vs Liverpool, and the 3 commentators were one side-ly supporting ManU, and everything they said were for United. as an audience i was feeling very annoyed. i truly believe commentators should be as neutral as possible and give impartial opinions cuz there are audiences for both sides.
