NAH, STEVIE RAY VAUGHN COPIED THEM! Johnny Winter, Edgar Winter - Tobacco Road (Live) 

Gotta check out Edgar Winter's Frankenstien

Nothing happened. We’re still out here… Musicians of all genres, dancers, etc. , it’s perception, it’s the amount/type of exposure. Most of our generation grew up on all kinds of music 🎶, of course it gets in our soul. ❤️🙏🏾😇

In the 70s and 80s there were way less distractions, no cellphones, no internet, tv broadcasts went of the air at 12pm so music was what we did for fun and you spent enough time to perfect your craft. Black and white people were more talented back then because that's all you did, all day every day. There are very few today who will take the time to become true masters of anything because there is just so many other things to eat into our time.

The bass player is Tommy Shannon who went on to join Double Trouble and play with Stevie Ray Vaughan.

In the 90's the music industry killed the style, the genre,the different and exceptional for fast money....love watching your reactions

I don't remember how I heard this but I used to go see these guys and I think it was one of their roadies who told me, because they are Albinos they couldn't play outside so their parents got them instruments for their birthdays and holidays. And boy, can they play. Johnny played with BB

Edgar Winter was the best alto sax player on Earth.

Humble pie BLACK COFFEE 1973

Albonoism has nothing to do with race. Johnny and Edgar Winter are both albino.

Actually no one stole anything. Both Johnny and SRV play in the same league (Texas Blues) but different styles and influences. While Stevie was heavily influenced by Jimi Hendrix and Albert King and a lil T-Bone Walker. Johnny was way more puristic when it comes to blues and more traditional. He used finger pickin. His influence was the old Delta Blues like Robert Johnson and Son House but also Chicago Blues like Muddy Waters and Texas Blues like Lightnin Hopkins and of course Chuck Berry's Rock 'n' Roll. Both are great guitarists anywayz 😊

You grew up with racism babe . There are and always have been people of Europeans descent immersed in the Blues .If you go back into the sixties you will find that the Great Bluesmen were playing shitty little bars - I was a teenage girl sneaking in and got to see many . The white musicians honored them and brought them back to the stages they deserved . Isn’t time to acknowledge there are stiffs in every culture. Great Musicianship transcends Melatonin .My mom born 1915 introduced me to Louis Armstrong,Ray Charles , Ella Fitzgerald all the jazz greats to many to say . We were dirt broke but we had the music, that my darling is living the Blues ❤️

You just learned more tonight than most people learn in four years of college.

Johnny Winter WAS THE BEST.

They are white and they are also albino's. Their eyes are pinkish. As kids growing up in Texas they couldn't go outside to play with other kids because of their fair skin and their eyes are very light sensitive. Their father who was a musician and played several instruments taught them to play.

We were teens in the 60s and 70s, and into the 80s we were starting our families.

I know exactly what happened to white folks, Mugs. Young people changed their parents' tastes in music. All colors of new, young people change culture with every generation, not just white folks. Geez. Look at hip-hop. Long jump from BB King, Stevie Wonder, Aretha, Ray Charles....... Still love you brother. Just kind of a silly question - to me at least. Peace out ✌

Try Edgar Winter's band, 'White Trash', with Rick Derringer and the great Jerry LaCroix. Specifically the live recorded album, 'Roadwork'. Johnny makes an appearance on it too. 😉

David Lee Roth also does a cover of this on his album Eat 'Em and Smile 👍

The Winter brothers are straight up albino from the state of Texas.

he play the saxophone too? wait till he see's Frankenstein :)

I'm watching just the beginning of this and I can't wait for what happens in 2 minutes

Mother Nature doesn't care about the color the color of your hair or skin

What happened after this was something called DISCO!!! and it SUCKED!!!!!!!

its escaped all people, don't see it from anyone anymore

Brother,the answer to ur question is DISCO HAPPENED and that killed everything ! Too Bad - So sad Makes me mad. As a rock-jazz-blues lovin caucasion. Broke my heart & soul.

What happened to that kind of music was pop music, disco, music and rap music?Everybody followed that trend and forgot about the old stuff

Both Winter brothers were way talented. In 1988 Johnny became the first non-African American inducted into the Blues Hall of Fame.

Id say the majority of us whiteys will NEVER have the type of soul you are talking about , but there have always been a few of us have that gift. Today, Chris Stapleton comes to mind 1st, but there are others. A few, but they're out there.

On the BB King comment, to be honest, I don't think BB King ever played at more than a fraction of Johnny Winter's level. He wrote some good songs and was a decent singer, but I personally always thought he was always overrated as a guitar player, but just my personal opinion from having seen him play on TV. Even I could play a lot of his lead solo's, which is a bad sign, because I'm a fourth-rate player! But you're right, I'm sure both of these guys listened to and were heavily influenced by a whole range of black artists - blues players like Howlin wolf, and Led Belly, as well as black R&B and jazz players. To my ears, it's always been the black jazz players who were super, super talented as musicians, more than the blues players. The guitar blues players had soul and expression especially as singers, but were not usually all that proficient as players IMO, people like Johnny Winter took a lot of their riffs, modified and super-charged them and played them much faster and better. But the black jazz players?, holy smokes, serious, serious talent and skill there. Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis, Bird, Art Tatum, Thelonious Monk, Herbie Hancock and so many others - amazing. I think Edgar listened to those cats, and the skating he does in this song is more jazz than blues I think. The natural talent with the Winter brothers is impressive though, especially with Edgar, to be able to be a knock-em-dead virtuoso keyboard player, AND a virtuoso sax player, and an amazing singer too?? And in your mid-20's? As you said, come on now!

Music is an example of how we cross bridges. No cultural appropriation. Just something that makes everyone feel good. We figured that out in the 60’s. But feel good doesn’t sell like feel bad does, so we get pounded with feel bad. For a short time we were all going in the right direction, but something changed. That’s too bad….

Johnny, Edgar and Rick Derringer are a world unto themselves. Johnny's album Still Alive And Well is one of the best blues/rock albums ever made.

Personally, always had that blue-eyed soul! Born in 63, first song I remember singing was from Charlie Pride. My parents had good taste in music. The Platters, lots of vocal groups, older sister inspired me to play keys, 2 older brothers with So many different influences! Love you brother! Peace

Computer music came out in the 80s and ruined everything

Check out Larkin Poe. They are two young white sisters and they are in this realm.

He and Johnny grew up in south east Beaumont Texas ,,what else can you say

Saw Edar about 15 years ago, still amazing!

As you said, even us white people had soul back then. Ango lie.

There’s still a lot of extremely talented musicians out there. Back in the day we really didn’t care about race just talent, we would share are playing talents with whoever and we’re influenced by many I’d listen to Led Zep , Bad Co, Montrose and the Temptations, Tower of Power or Earth Wind n Fire. Separating everything and everybody by races, pretty much a newer thing for a lot of us

This song was also done by Rare Earth in the 60s on their Get Ready album. Get Ready the whole 1st side of the album anout 30 minutes long and all instruments have a solo. The drum solo is one of the best. No one has ever redacted to it.

I told you that and Edgar and Johnny both are albino

Mugs you got that right. White people wouldn't have a thing in the world of rock and roll without the black man's blues. There are several forms of blues. The Winter brothers were both blind from albinism. Couldn't see color but sure knew good take you to church music.

David lee roth of Van Halen & Steve Vai did a cover of this song & smoked it

The Winter brothers were WAY before Steve.

White folks got albino's too

Johnny Winter was a Texas Blues Man who once got on stage with BB King at a black Juke Joint in the 60s Johnny was unknown at the time and he was the only white man in the place. He ask if he could sit in with BB , at first BB was not sure but not wanting to appear racist he said ok. When the song was over BB turned to Johnny and said do you want to play another. Yeah it must have been some night.

Both Edgar and Johnny were indeed Albino and could not be in the sun for more than ten minutes or so. They are from Texas too. Johnny was one of the greatest Blues guitarists in the world. Jimi Hendrix Jammed with him one time, in a New York Lounge for about 15 minutes in the late 60s. Someone had a tape recorder, but no video. Two of the greatest together.

holy shit! what a song!

Music has no boundaries

Unfortunately music shifted away from rock , blues , soul in the 90s especially when Rap and Hip Hop became so prevalent in the music industry. Back in the day it wasn't unusual for singers to also play at least one instrument. Different times but I'm happy that the younger generation is finally discovering the fabulous music from the 60s & 70s . And there are still white & black musical artists performing the blues / rock . Check out the fantastic Joe Bonnarassa, guitar player/ singer. His performances with blues singer Beth Hart are incredible! Try reacting to I will take care of you, I promise you won't regret it 👍🔥🔥

What talented "Brothers" !! The blues had a child and they named it Rock & Roll! They are from Texas like Stevie Ray & Jimmie Vaughn and many others.

Also saw them at a festival, Kickapoo Creek,a few weeks later. They walked into our tent,Johnny looked at me & with a very thick southern accent asked "Y'all the ones sellin' the speed? We weren't

Ya should've seen them live. Listen to frankenstien

Check out the Edgar Winter Group doing Frankenstein here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P8f-Qb-bwlU.html

Unfortunately, Johnny passed away, but Edgar is still out there - he plays with Ringo Starr (who is also still out there). You might want to ask what happened to the generation that came after them. Also, Stevie Ray was a few years younger than the Winter brothers, so I'd say he definitely copied them. Rock trivia, my brother, a lead guitarist once jammed with Edgar at a London club when he (my bro) was on tour with the Hughes Corporation. I asked him how it went and he said "I kept up".

The tall bass player in this video, years later was the bass player for Stevie Ray Vaughn. Tommy Shannon played for Edgar & Johnny Winters and then SRV.

Oh yeah!!! . . . . Saw Edgar and his White Trash band about a dozen years ago. Insane!!

Albino Beothers Johnny and Edgar Winters...Seen em open for BB King back in 1974. Willimantic CT. The Shaboo

In case it hasn't already been mentioned, the guitar player is Johnny Winter. The keyboard player, and the guy singing here, is Edgar Winter. They are brothers, and both Albinos. Johnny passed away in 2014. Edgar is still performing and touring in 2024. In 2023 he was was also a member of Ringo Starr's All Star Band on tour. Neither of these incredibly talented brothers have ever been nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which in my humble opinion, is why I don't give the R&R Hall of fame any credibility whatsoever. RIP Johnny, and keep on rocking Edgar.

The more you absorb, the more you learn, the more you learn, the more you realize how much you really don't know ✨️🎶✨️ The best Tobacco Road version is the set at Madison Square Gardens

Saw them in the Chi with Muddy Waters,HOWLIN' WOLF,Willie Dixon, Big MOMMA THORNTON, Albert Collins. This generation is still cool, but in their 70's. You' ll find out. AGE HAPPENED! JEEZ.

That guy was born on a different plane of a different universe n just visited us here for a little while🤗🤗

What happened to music, and white performers in particular? The era of new musicians that grew up listening to John Lee Hooker and Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf and Albert King and B B. King and Freddie King ("The Three Kings") and Albert Collins and Pinetop Perkins and so very many other true greats came to an end. Literally all the true greats started out as blues bands. For example, before going by the name Black Sabbath and creating heavy metal Black Sabbath was a blues band. Led Zeppelin, major blues fans. The 60s and 70s was filled with artists who's main influences were the greatest of the great blues artists. Blues pianist Charlie Segar first recorded Key to the Highway in 1940. Jazz Gillum and Big Bill Broonzy followed with recordings in 1940 and 1941. Ten Years After lead guitarist and vocalist, Alvin Lee was heavily influenced by Big Bill Broonzy, and a big highlight of his life when young was getting to meet him. Eric Clapton was the best man at muddy Waters wedding. After Muddy's wife died he moved from Chicago to Westmont, Illinois ... two towns west of where I used to live. A friend was a neighbor of Muddy's. We didn't harass him doing the fan thing and would just wave and say hi, but it was not uncommon to see Eric Clapton or Johnny Winter or others at Muddy's house. Remove the blues, remove the influence of the spectacular black artists that preceded newer artists and you end up with a bunch of sterile soulless noise makers pretending to be rockers and who turned an art form into an 'industry of cool.' It became image over substance. The Golden Age Of Rock was roughly from the mid-1970s to 1980. Much after 1980 that was still really good was made by those from the 60s and 70s that were still together or had solo careers and played for as long as they could draw crowds and or physically perform. And when you want depth and soul from U.S. born white musicians of that era, those with the most were ones that like the Winter brothers were born in the south, born in Beaumont, Texas ... and Stevie Ray Vaughan, Dallas, Texas ... and there were others. The Allman brothers, Greg and Duane, Nashville, Tennessee .. majorly influenced by the great blues artists. Writing and or performing music/songs is like cooking. You have a good recipe and if follow it what you get will be good. Remove a key ingredient or substitute it with something else, and it won't be as good. -- You were not lied to about the Winter brothers being albinos. Johnny Winter was born in Beaumont, Texas, on February 23, 1944. He and his younger brother Edgar Winter (born 1946) were nurtured at an early age by their parents in musical pursuits. Both were born with albinism. It was common knowledge among my generation.

'Soul ' is colour blind, your skin colour doesn't matter!, you either know or you don't ! It obviously goes all the way back through the Blues, way back to African roots! But music, the good shit!!! is multi National and multi cultural, you don't need to understand people's languages to get the vibes If you enjoyed this check out 'Tobacco road ' by Eric Burdon and War ' the 70s live 'Beat Club ' version , a German TV programme it's absolutely amazing!!..

Both Edgar and Johnny are albino. They grew up in TX, couldn't go out in the sun so they had time to practice. Johnny played with many blues great. Edgar is still with us. He recently recorded a tribute album "Brother Johnny". That's Tommy Shannon on bass who later went on to join Stevie Ray Vaughan as part of Double Trouble.

Edgar played keyboards,drums,saxophone, guitar etc

I'm almost positive that Johnny Winters band was Double Trouble before they joined Stevie. I saw Johnny at Rowan university in New Jersey,probably like 2002. He was in a wheelchair, and he was still destroying the guitar. Very underrated blues guitarist.

Always give the date of publication! Yuall will learn where the magic happened! Everything else is a version. Ly

They are albino I’ve seen them Johnny had liver problems no Johny was around those guy’s and HENDRICKS

I was lucky going to high school with them. Played bass but not in their league. Did cut Johnnys first 45 rpm with them… their soul came from Sunday church. They went for music and you the churches that had that. Color didn’t matter, so you know which they went to…❤️

Always fun to watch someone discover Edgar! :-) I'm sure you'll get lots of requests for his band doing Frankenstein live; be sure to react to the video at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P8f-Qb-bwlU.html. There are others out there, but this is the cream-of-the-crop performance. (Side note: Edgar put together the first version of the song when he was in Johnny's band; even played it at the same venue as the Tobacco Road set you just watched.) The album version went to #1, but Edgar always said Frankenstein is a visual song, so the live version is a must. And by the way, that bass player on Tobacco Road went on to play in Double Trouble with Stevie Ray.

Edgar and Johnny are both albino. Ironically, the bass player is Tommy Shannon, better known as Stevie Ray's bassist. The old-timers knew that all rock music came from the Blues. The old rock bands played blues. Led Zeppelin and the rest. It isn't just white guys, nobody knows how to play instruments as a band. Same with the 70s black groups. You don't see choreographed dancing on stage these days. The machine doesn't want them anyway.

Edgar Winter has a beautiful song called "Dying to Live" which 🔥! 2pac sampled it with "Runnin".

BTW, that's Tommy Shannon on base, who became half of Double Trouble, which was SRV's rhythm section. So yea, Johnny especially and the Vaughn brothers hung out all the time in Austin in the early 70's

This is Edgar Winter playing with his brother Johnny and Johnny's band. Uncle John Turner on drums and Tommy Shannon on bass. This was long before Tommy was part of Stevie Raye Vaughan's band Double Trouble. You see how young Tommy is. Tommy's been doing it a long time. Their inspiration comes from Texas bluesmen and God. From the church. Your right they were around one of the Kings. You picked the wrong one though. It was Albert King who Johnny loved.

I'm 72 Y/O & my favorite musical acts would be The Doors, Jimi Hendrix & Janis Joplin...but I think the best musical era was the '80s.

You're right- White musicians do indeed owe a great debt to influential Black artists. That said, I think you would be completely blown away by "Dying to Live" (and I for one would love to see that reaction). This brings back memories!

I'll bet if you were to dig into the history of these brothers you'd be VERY interested. They are pretty well documented. Just as a teaser most of JONNYS life he was a very dedicated HERON ADICT 😮

Disco drew folks away from classic rock. Edgar and Johnny has sole for days. If you want to be surprised by more white musicians, listen to the Allman Brothers Band.

The Winter brothers…wow,they were amazing.Texas Bluesmen throughout.The same thing that happened to all great music…it got replaced by Beyoncé and Taylor Swift type fluff.Blues is still played but few artists get recognition like they used too.

They done stole their singing swag from James Brown! ... 😅😎...🔥🌋🔥

Stevie Ray Vaughan didn't "copy" anyone. Let's just get that straight Johnny & Edgar's bass player here is Tommy Shannon, who was also Stevie Ray's bass player. That's the only thing they had in common. I love Johnny and Edgar, but they don't hold a candle to SRV. I say this as an eighth generation Texan, and all three of them were Texas boys. 😘

What happened to music! Where do I begin!!! For starters… A lot of schools stop having music as part of the curriculum… and this trend continues. Back in the day, starting in elementary school, kids were introduced to and had access to instruments. Now they don’t. Most reactor say that today’s music sucks in comparison, for which there are multiple reasons. Some planned!

You asked what happened. This is my generation. Rock-n-roll is based on the blues largely and in part. This generation and those before this generation perfomed with musical talent. Then what happened? Disco. Then dancing and theatrics. Now it has devolved into theatrics and celebrity, often void of musical talent as exemplified by sampling and auto-tune.

You can ask the same question about black music. What happened. I grew up in the 60s and loved the soul music back then. But now listen to black music. They lost the soul too. So the question becomes, what happened to music period. We all lost our souls and traded it in for greed. Money. Whatever sells.

Go back to the 60's or even the 50's.... white folks got soul. Try out Steve Winwood

Saw a bunch of great bands back then. So glad I got to see Johnny live in the early 80's at a small club. Wish I had seen Duane Allman but he died when I was young. There's a band Arc Angels that ended up forming with SRV's rhythm section. Not sure if they're still gigging but they have some good feel.

Not just white folks tell me is there any black folks now signing like Marvin Gaye the temptations Stevie Wonder ect....now adays r&b blues are almost dead now auto tune

Try this by Eric Burdon & WAR 1970. 14 minutes long. War was a Funk Rock Band. I do like the Winters but… LOL

Well I am 56 years old and my mother was a Johnny Winter freak A blues freak my first album I ever pulled out of her album crate was the progressive Blues experiment Johnny Winters add mugs I blamed to the birth of rap for these people disappearing now you're teaching me stuff about that music

When you walk into my living room from the back door the first thing you see is two portraits 1) Johnny Winter ( a pastel water color portrait.) 2) Duane Allman ( a photo of him with his tobacco burst Les Paul.)

My neighbors in Dallas had not 1 but 3 children born with albinism. The kids could not get out in the sunshine, so they played at night. During the summer they’d be out all night swimming in their pool.

Edger more instruments and vocals johnny a blues legend played with the greats bb king, Albert King, buddy Guy ect

What happened? Neoliberalism. Corporations started telling the artist what to do. It's a little more complicated than that.... Kind of like the way things are going with the ticket sales monopoly happening today. They have control over where the artists is allowed to perform and when and most importantly IF.

Our generation was cast aside when the Disco scene came to town. The sappy crappy stuff took over since then. That's when Hollywood teamed up with the Music Industry. Now we have cover songs and auto tune.

Check out diamond Dave's version of tobacco road 💎 David Lee Roth 🔥🎸🎸🎸

They both could play any instrument , but Johnny mainly stuck to the guitar , and Edgar played everything else !

Johnny Winter was around long before SRV who doesn't come to the great Johnny Winter

way to many songs to pick fromif you do edgars frankenstein do both versions he redid both free ride and frankenstein as smooth jazz or fly away nevada 89 you will see the james brown cape with johnny in 84 he switched guitars for speed watch johnny b goode montreux 84 or for 12 bar blues i smell trouble between the two brothers you have about 60 albums to pick from if you need more ideas just let me know to answer your question afters the great music then came disco and hip hop then when rap came about you didn't need talent anymore and what was left samples and auto tune this is why you kids today like our music

Jimi Hendrix once recognized Johnny Winter as the greatest guitar player

There's plenty of soul in Texas-- talent is passed across cultures-- both ways.