When the girl on the chestnut patted her horse after 2 refusals and didn't even go for a 3rd because she knew her horse wasn't ready, she really made my day ❤️ such a good rider
I literally had to turn the volume off. I guarantee that it was the reason virtually every horse was spooked and distracted. Dangerous to say the least, because it causes unnecessary accidents!! I've seen videos of 3 day eventing where dogs get loose and chase the horses on track!!
The rider after 2.26, fucking idiot attacking the poor horse with the whip! It's the rider's own fucking fault! Whatever happens, it's NEVER the horse's fault!!🤬
Is no one gonna talk about the girl at 11:10 that lost her stirrup before the second jump and still continued beautifully? People like this amaze me ✨✨
Totally and I damn right agree with you this horse probably wants to kill this man I mean think about what he does trying to train or after the show ? Utterly disgusting
The only thing I dislike about the rider he/she didn’t need to hit the horse so many times with the whip but the horse needs to learn that they aren’t the boss and the rider is so one or two taps is fine to get the horse over but? Like 100 smacks on the butt? Not right
She wouldn’t have made it over the jump and landed safely the first 2 times, which is why the horse refused I think, her balance was so off on them first 2
That what people do when they don’t Know how to ride, it is just unbelievabe. In France you can do it 3 times, no more, if you dore 10 Times like this person, you Will be eliminated and private for a while of competition (Sorry for my enflish, i’m french)
@@alainfemenias Si seulement c'était partout comme ça 😧 Ça devrait pas être autorisé de littéralement frapper son cheval parce qu'il ne comprends pas quelque chose, sachant que 90% du temps c'est la faute du cavalier
9 years ago and im here to say that people aren't giving enough love to the rider at 14:37 with such a beautiful and quiet ride, planned out beautifully, horse and rider were both on the same page, wonderfully done!
Everyone should look the rider at 8:21 with the grey. She falls after losing balance and instead of getting mad, she calmly stands and pats her horse, despite the disappointment. I thought everyone would like to see it after how everyone was upset over the other riders :)
I've had 2 and you'd be surprised how many horse people actually correct you when using gentle methods. "You need to show him who's boss!" "You're going to get yourself killed if you train in the pasture instead of up by the barn with all the scary noises" I've witnessed so much abuse it's literally sent me home in tears. I live horses, but I'm wary of horse people until I see how their horse likes them without a halter on.
Kaytie Buckhalt When I was younger and I took riding lessons (I’ve since had to stop unfortunately), one of my first teachers would encourage us to get the horse moving by saying “Break its ribs”. I was young and didn’t have much muscle in my legs but she would say that to her older students too. I later changed to a different teacher who focused more on making a connection between the rider and the horse and getting us to trust one another. The difference in the horses’ temperments was astonishing.
I literally said that to myself I said if your dog is gonna bark at the horses one DiStRaCtInG the riders could spook the horses and ride to the other people who are trying to watch why even bring your dog also are we not gonna talk about how the hell that horse got over without making the rider fall off or hurting him or herself 8:13
3:16 I didn't see anyone mention it, maybe they don't realize, but that girl was SO patient with her horse, encouraging and reassuring it repeatedly without overusing her crop like that one guy. Really good horsemanship there! Same goes for the one at 7:40, though everyone already mentioned her, and tbh even though she had a good attitude, a pat is less impressive than what the other girl was doing.
Anna Bielawski well the people are doing the same thing, after a horse jumps a fence they clap and cheer. But I don’t see you writing hate comments about them. So lighten up
i actually really liked how 6:35 after the complicated, steep first jump, just sort of loosened the reins and held to the mane. they handled the situation really well and made it easier for both the horse, and rider. hats down!
So annoying to watch and hear that yacking dog in the background and clearly u can see some of the horses get scared hearing it that's why their are so many refusals why don't they ban dogs at these shows. Hope they also ban those people whipping their horses like that
L.V.C what? I didn't say anything about my dog I was saying about other dogs. I think if you have a quiet calm dog like me then it's fine but not a noisy dog around horses.
I agree.. if your going to take your dog to an horse event, where horses are going to be passing by regularly close up, make sure your dog doesn’t bark EVERY, SINGLE , TIME
7:39 I love her! She didn’t whip her horse when it refusd like other riders, because she gived her horse lots of hope pets and more. Not like that one whit the white horse she whipt him for so much and she just makes the horse more frustrated, and the dog omg why do you bring a dog there when it barks
@@Paisley617so? You dont understand. Unless shes banging the horse. She was just giving him a whip of encouragement. Some horses dont mind the whip. I can understand if shes smacking him every step. But it was just a little encouragement for the horse. She rode extremely well considering she jumped one handed and had no stirrups. Her balance is incredible and she seems like a really good rider. So please dont..
x x Right?! That was the exact number of times you should discipline your horse! Look at the guy/girl from 5:30! Horrendous, should have been disqualified
I completely agree, her use of a whip was very appropriate, she just told her horse that what he did was not correct, and he understood and got his job done.
Exactly! So many other riders' horses didnt wanna jump, they jump kept whipping the horse, but this girl kept going around and letting the horse go when it wanted to instead of forcing it.
I know a lot of the riders here were using their crop wrong. It’s necessary to smack occasionally if a horse is straight up being rude and stubborn but doing it when you yourself hasn’t set up a jump correctly is just cruel.
@@songbird6414 bloody hell it's an animal. Better yet yet FLIGHT animal. Did you know that horses skin in thinner than ours? So it would hurt a lot more. If a horse can feel a fly on it, it can sure as hell feel a whip. Bet you wouldn't hit a dog with one though because THAT would be abusive...
Rebecca Holohan They’re not really wrong though. If the dog is barking at every horse then it’s probably best to take it away, as it could easily distract/spook the horse.
Pygmy Puff that was my pony last night. He cleared a 2’6ft Oxer by like 2ft. But whatever. And my old pony was called Flying Squirrel. And he did the same thing. But I love the crazy ones
2:58 i like this rider. she gave a single tap of encouragement (it wasn’t a harsh slap) and let her horse look at the jump, even went he refused a second time. she was very patient and rode it beautifully. positive reinforcement is so much better😌
ikr: some ppl think what she did was abuse but she rlly did just tap 🥺 most whips are made for the sound and not the pain- so the horse prolly didn’t even feel it
2:39 what a mean rider did u see how he was whipping his horse?!!!! It's his fault for not having enough canter to the jump. I feel so bad for the horse.
I liked the way the girl at 15:55 encouraged her horse by shouting 'Come on big boy' instead of using her whip. I know a tap before the jump is another way of encouraging them to go over, but I liked the way her and a few others used their voices instead of their whips as encouragement 😄
Number 110 is an amazing rider because because even though her horse refused jumping down into the water she didn’t use the crop and whip his several times she just turned her horse around and kept trying until the horse was ready. Great rider! ❤️🤩
some people are abusing their horses with the crop! that is why they are refusing. also, that dog should not of been barking (that is distracting to the riders and horses)
....you're an idiot. They're refusing THEN getting hit NO MORE THAN 3 TIMES with a legal length CROP for the stop. You often tap got horses shoukder or especially if you're approaching a type of fence you know your horse is gonna look at (a big WATER drop!?) If you're SMART and want to make it over on the 1st try, you're GOING TO ride that fence as tough as you CAN! Yes, that includes some well times smacks with the crop. Horses DON'T Refuse fences because of a CROP!!! It is an Artificial aid simply meant to reinforce your NATURAL leg aid,,, it's NOT abuse, it's NOT making the horse STOP... Jesus Christ people if you don't KNOW WTF you're talking about, stfu.
@@carliecole2563 I'm not trying to be a keyboard warrior and I agree with you but what some riders here are doing IS abuse. It's fine to tap your horse but not to beat them up. They were mostly fine except for the guy on the grey. He was WAY out of line. I hope this didn't come across as rude
I bet you think the pessoa is abuse too I'm sick of people believing that everything is abuse, I love my gray mare but she needs a little bit more help getting over the jumps and that's why I ride with a whip and Spurs I only have to use the whip once or twice for full show to remind her that she needs to pay attention and jump the jump also that first jump is very difficult and I would tap my horse a good three steps before that jumped just to make sure she sees it stop saying everything is abuse yes the girl who hit her horse three times after it refused didn't do it correctly you have to stop the horse make sure it sees the jump one light tap and then come back to it
That dog was driving me insane. Don't bring your dog if it's gonna bark at every jump omg it can cause horses to spook and riders to fall/have their horse refuse! It's ignorant!
Frankly I think that its almost more obnoxious for the other people standing around. If the horses are competing at this level, it shouldn't be an issue. However, its still incredibly rude to just let your dog bark until the cows come home. Can't be fun for the dog either!
2:36 Utterly disgusting! She was well off balance and her horse knew it. Lost control and then whips the horse AFTER refusing several times as a punishment. If you whip at all, it should be done before the jump, it’s a tool, not a weapon. She might be a good rider, but treating a horse that way isn’t fair. She would probably have fell off if the horse made the jump right away.
@@aniekalix7713 : Honey. Stirrups are the metal cups at the bottom of your stirrup leathers that you put your feet in. They are not a guide for the horse! Your legs and feet are the guide. Give me strength.
2:43 Just made me groan. My very first horse was a cutting horse who got beat when he didn't run fast enough. His name was nacho and he was only 8 years old when I got him. Amazing horse, but the sight of a rope, whip, or a fast moving thing like my arm, a bird, or a stick terrified him.. Quit beating your horse when he does not do what you want, just go back and try again. A beating will only make things worse. As you can see with 2:25 , the person giver her horse a quick tap on the rump after the balk, then turns around and goes again. Much better than slapping and beating!
I so agree 2:43 is a shitty rider no core no leg no balance then attacks the horse for it smh the horse was definitely looking out for its rider and can SOMEONE SHUT THAT ANNOYING ASS DOG UP!!!!
The one at 2:25 whipped the horse even after it went over the jump, definitely didn't like that one Edit: oh nvm you said the same thing it's just a timestamp issue
The man/woman at 5:15 seriously needs to learn how to ride 1. She/he isn’t collecting his reins 2.She/he is all over the place 3.His/her horse doesn’t know where to go 4.His/her horse probably has a cut or mark on its side due to overuse of the whip
I feel like that to horses skin is a little thinner than ours and I always say to people when they hit their horses how would you feel if I hit you twice as hard with a whip and as many times as you just did
Totally agree. By the sound of his voice No. 116 is - let’s be generous - ‘male: as well as a monster-hissy-fit to his poor mount’. How did he get this far? The horse itself looks rather a good sort [poor baby].
The girl at 2:55 was so gentle with her crop. If you’re going to use a crop she is a good example. You don’t need to smack. Just tap. It’s just encouraging the forward movement.
where i ride everybody does this. after every fence (unless a show- always lots of treats after) we pet and praise our horses! it’s so weird that she was one of the few who encouraged their horse
It’s the biggest ick when people say this. she may say “good boy” but you have no idea what she may be doing to the horse at the barn (just using as an example i doubt she does) Some people really get frustrated at their horse once they get home from an unsuccessful competition. Dont assume things when you dont know what they actually do in real life.
To the lady that pat her horse after it refused the jump I say a thank you cause I’m kinda sick of the people beating their horse’s hind for not feeling comfortable and safe to go over the jump. This is at 7:39.
Goofy Gunther I don’t think so, but I‘m not an expert on xc and eventing. I don’t think any horse needs such bits, but some riders just can’t help the need for total control without giving the horse the freedom to be a living creature.
Goofy Gunther I compete in eventing and ride all 3 phases in a myler D ring snaffle, sure my horse gets strong but I've always got my seat and voice to back me up if he doesn't listen to the bit (on xc). I don't think two bits are necessary but it depends on the horse I guess
2:38 I cannot watch it! it was the riders fault she should have prepared the horse more and instead of trying to understand what went wrong she just whacked the poor thing and dug in her heels. you could just see the poor horse wondering what he had done. I feel that those people just dont understand riding as much as they should. They should know better than that! 😢 Also 5:19 was heartbreaking to watch the poor horse get tortured!! most of these riders i like but the occasional 'whip whacker' is just horrible! 😫
@Michael Burkinshaw At the end she gave the horse 2 at the end but it was gentle, the first 2 were hard but more gentle than those other disgusting girls
@Michael Burkinshaw The horse was jumping fine, no horse ever needs to be abused. Only gentle whips is fine but not loud violent ones. No offence but you are rude and a discrase to the human race >:( You never abuse animals
Lacey the horse I use a whip on my horse, yes it makes noise, I always hit myself on the boot instead because it’s louder and doesn’t hit her too much but gets her over
@Michael Burkinshaw which rider are you talking about specifically? and how would you like it if somebody whacked you with a blunt object just because you feel scared to jump? Horses don't have thick skin and their nerves are extremely close to the skin, thus it is believed and even proved by scientists horses have much more sensitive skin and they feel more pain then a human can, i have tapped my leg with a whip by accident and it already stings and hurts so imagine what a flipping WHACK feels like :( if you have a horse please treat it with respect because it is still a living creature not a robot you can just beat the living day lights out of just because they are scared.
@Michael Burkinshaw oh for fucks sake, horses have thinner skin then humans. You are a shame to the equestrian community. The rider at 7:35 shows a perfect example of what to do when a horse refuses. dont beat the horse and make it more afraid. If not, the horse will affiliate the jump with pain.
Are you sure you meant the correct girl at 11:30 ? Number # 138? She tapped 1x before the jump, the horse didn't refuse, but stumbled. She just took back the control, didn't punish her horse for that, rode a huge bow to give the horse time to aclimate for the next jump, and then jumped. Compared to other riders, she did a great job^^ The girl # 132 at 9:45 with the spotted horse was the only one to watch with pleasure... the horse was absolutely sovereign
I mean mabye she could have let the horse slow down, but she gave it loads of time, and even judging by her face was very calm the whole time, very composed, there wasn't really much else she could have done unless you expect her to pull out of the competition all together...
CivicFromJapan I do not expect her to pull out of the competition altogether, but she could’ve at least pat the horse or given him some kind of positive reinforcement for saving her butt and standing back up... that horse was coughing up water. he could’ve choked. as for me, i would’ve been very worried for my horse
6:05 just held on to the reins when the horse was clearly startled. no offense and I know I will never be as good as some of these riders but jeez come on let go of the reins
Is it really necessary to whip the horse super hard 5-6 times when it stops in front of a jump? Like yeah your horse stopped that happens, but smacking it so hard you can hear it super clear on video is not going to solve it. They are probably really frustrated, but still you should NEVER blame the horse. Shame on the riders for not knowing proper horsemanship and only focusing on winning.
theotakufromNorway I totally agree with you but... First of all it's a crop, and second of all it does help to motivate the horse. That still doesn't make it right though which is why I agree with you.
yeah thanks for correcting me, i'm not that good with some english wordsCx But yes of course the crop is good to motivate the horse, i've ridden for about 5 years now and the crop is a fantastic tool to use, but it's also important to praise the horse when it does something good and to NEVER use the crop as a way to punish the horse
Oh my god, if your dog is going to bark at nearly every single horse PLEASE don't bring it. It could spook a horse and someone could get seriously hurt. Jeez.
Sabreen Lps&Mlp it wouldn't, horse hearing is incredible. I'm surprised all of those horses handled it so well. It was also annoying the audience. Just keep the damn dogs at home if you can't control them.
The rider at 3:00 wasn’t beating the horse although she gave it a tap. She probably let the horse refuse because she wasn’t really committed but maybe the horse was young and didn’t really want to jump it. But she is decent example of how to react when a horse refuses don’t take it from 2:30 someone needs to take her whip away or better than that her horse.
Some of these horses look so tired by this point... You can understand why they refuse. I know I have much more respect for a rider who knows when to retire than one who pushes their horse past its limit and ends up beating it round the course. It's very sad to see people who appear to have no enjoyment in riding unless they win. There is nothing wrong with competitive riding but when you forget that you are part of a team with another living thint that gets scared and has confidence issues just like us, that's when you need to take your feet out of those stirrups and have a good think. I will always believe that having that special relationship with a horse that only come from love and trust is a bigger reward than any trophy or ribbon (not trying to make it sound like all competitive riders don't care about their horses, I saw some riders give their horses a lovely encouraging pat in this very video ;p).
Victor shut the fuck up. Hackamores snap nasal Bridges. And the only one FEI allows is a mechanical. The ones that have snapped nasal bridges. Also they add pressure on some of the most sensitive nerves.
Jumping Øxers they don’t injure the nasal if you know how to put one on...It’s just like a halter and have they, nope. You torture your horse by jumping with 2000 pounds of pressure on 2 feet, watch a regular jump in slow mo and watch the ankle touch the ground. English riders 🤦♂️western were the original riders, stick to roping and trail rides and not torturing you horse for money and trophys
Victor Oof. You obviously don’t know your shit. Mustangs in the wild are abusing themselves now by jumping over logs? Also I’m not 500 pounds thank you very much.
Most of the times when they applauded them and they used to whip the Whip was used correctly at that to remind the horse didn't forward off the leg I am sick of of non equestrians villainizing anyone who needs aids to help them horses can sometimes be a little bit deaf the Whip and Spurs helps them hear like stronger bits sometimes you just need something to make it to man a little bit louder and I too would have kept my mare before that first jump it's very difficult with the horse can't see the landing and its water horses don't have depth perception so it's very scary which is why you have to let them trust you and if they don't you have to be very slow and gentle
Edie Flurry some of them cracked them repeatedly which is not the correct thing to do, one tap is fine. The sound of the crop does sometimes encourage them but it is alot smarter to hit the boot, or something that wont put the horse in slight pain. They have very thin skin and their nerves sit on top of the layers. Cracking the horse multiple times hard is not going to get a rider anywhere, it will cause the horse to be fearful of the rider
7:34 What a calm rider. It’s nice to see someone trying to give their horse confidence instead of angry beating 8:10 How the heck did that happe- 10:18 literally my thoroughbred on XC 😂
Vollkommen normale Reaktion des Reiters und in der Situation geboten! Pferd und Reiter die das nicht können oder wollen, sollen im Wald Wanderreiten machen!
lopi22 Sei leise und red net du hast ja gar keine Ahnung Davon das es auch nur ein Tier mit Gefühlen ist und DU HAST KEIN HERZ UND KEINE GEFÜHLE 💔😭💔💔😭😭
I loved 9:22 She was very encouraging, and you can tell the horse was vibing off of her the entire time he was going. She treated him well. One of the best of the video. c:
@@teddybear5788 yes that still has to do with the natural reflex. Sometimes people hold on when they're shocked, and in shock you can't always move so letting go of the reins takes much longer. The rider at 6:02 is clearly in shock as she just holds on and lets the horse pull her around.
@@wearethetwoforever or maybe when she was lying on the ground with the reigns still in her hand she didn't let them go on purpose just so her horse wouldn't get away
I am not saying that they are bad riders because I know it's a difficult sport but the boy on the white horse at 5.14 is rude to the horse with the first try he hit the horse so hard you could see the horse couldn't get over and het hit him that's not how you treat a horse well at the 3rd time trying to get over He made the circle to short so the horse didn't get enough speed to get over and he got mad! the horse cant do anything about it. pour horse.
just like when your horse gets scared and it runs away and after a while you stop or fall of and you hit him. that's so not how you treat your horse. because its as reflection of the horse to run away when its scared so don't ever hit a horse that for scared and ran away!
SERIOUSLY?!?! this is the perfect example of a bad rider! it is NEVER the horses fault it is always the rider. the horse never asked them to do cross country so I don't understand why the horses are getting punished when it is really the riders fault.
your right and i dont call that riding if you need a whip to get your horse to do somthing you need TRUST oh and you need to be kind and patient like the opposite of him
2:37 why would they do that?! Most of us cannot treasure what they have yet that’s how they treat it they are lucky to have a horse and they treat it like that WTF😫
I know. I would love to own a horse and be able to have the privilege of being near such an animal, but these people treat their horses like they are dispensable machines
Gibt es in Amerika eine andere Reitweise die heißt: pferd mit der Gerte 5 Mal schlagen, Pferd ins Wasser springen lassen, Pferde stolpert, aus dem Gleichgewicht kommen, Zügel loslassen, Pferd rennt weiter, pferd an den Zügeln zum nächsten Hindernis ziehen, pferd springt zu weit vorne ab, landet im Hindernis, Reiter fällt runter und schlägt pferd zusammen?????????????????😡😡😡😡 In Deutschland würde das alles etwas anderst aussehen 😔
Sad thing is this is a young rider event and too many of these kids are shoved up through the levels before they or their horses are prepared for or fit enough to ride them. Watching this video, despite some of the better riders in it , makes the current issues with our sport more clear. The more popular and money hungry eventing gets in the USA, the more it is flooded with unqualified trainers and win hungry riders who do not have long term focus and patience or the horse's best interest in mind.
Ich bin echt erstaunt wie viele nur den sieg im Kopf haben und ihre Pferde für jede Kleinigkeit zusammen schlagen. Ich hab nichts gegen den gerten Einsatz solang es dem Tier nicht schadet und in maasen abläuft. Aber die übertreiben es echt. Die denken wohl auch das die die Ponys/Pferde einfach ausnutzten können wie ein Sport gerät und wenn die kapput sind gibt es neue. Ich und ne gute Freundin sind selber im Reitsport aktiv (Meine Freundin bis Klasse m in springen und ich reiter-und dressurwettbererbe) und wir erleben sehr oft das es solche Menschen gibt. Das regt echt auf und manchmal kommen uns auch die Tränen weil es noch schlimmere Leute als hier im Video gibt. 😭 ja es ist schön zu gewinnen aber das sind auch nur Lebewesen die schon alles für einen machen.
