Naked Bible Podcast 106, 107 - The Book of Obadiah 

Dr heiser should not impose opposing worldviews on the scripture to inform it . I believe his heurmenutic is incorrect and of course I am not alone

I know. Amazing insight. It’s taught me how to think critically with a solid methodology. So blessed to have Heiser

@@asliketheson give evidence cowboy

@sparky3006 does not fit or blend in your "church" preaching?

For the most part I embrace Mike’s teachings, and am extremely grateful to God for him and for his knowledge and ministry. But I don’t agree with everything Mike believes, and that’s OK. Eg. I hold to a geocentric view of Earth, whereas Mike believes we’re living on a spinning globe. I’d be very interested to know what you mean that Mike ‘imposes opposing world views on the Scriptures.’ What are you referring to here please?

My pastor is also a milkman. What he lacks in variety and substance he makes up for in volume. He’s a screaming milkman! 💔✝️❤️

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Wow and I spent a week on 2 Thessalonians 2 and it's meaning. Probably will send another too. All things take time. May God bless you many times today!

Cult leader lol refreshing truth more like it

William Wells Israel wasn’t judge for non-belief in 70AD. They were judged set into exile for idol worship and spiritual rebellion. At the End it will be the reverse for Edom

Israel is of such importance to YHVH God, He has set aside the last week of years, the 7-year tribulation, to focus on and reconcile them again unto Himself (Daniel 9:24).

1. Early bronze age ends with destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham 100yrs old. 1850BC +/- 2. Middle bronze age ends with devastation of the exodus. Moses 80years old. 1445BC-/+ 3. Late bronze ends with cosmic disturbances. Earthquakes..so on. Time of Uzziah to Hezekiah.

Good question!

You bring up a few issues; besides Judah being a PART of Israel, Israel is also the name God gave to Jacob (Yaakov) after a predawn wrestling match. So the name Israel is a name given to God’s covenental people, the Jews or Israelis. Further, the nation of Israel was split into two after the Assyrians invaded Northern Israel, which seriously changed Northern Israel’s identity. Roughly a couple hundred years later, Judah and the southern kingdoms of Israel were taken away to Babylon, then later returned. These events divided the population of Israel in many ways, but consider, Jesus spent much time in Samaria, trying to reconcile the division between northern Israelis( Samaritans) and southern Israelis (Judahites or Jews). Jesus did these things seeking to reconcile His divided countrymen, or ‘rescuing the lost sheep of Israel’. Truly, the Good Shepherd. But be careful with the ‘apostate’ label; for all, like sheep, have gone astray! Christ came to reconcile ALL true believers to God the Father, but all Israelis get preeminent status as God’s convene talks people, ‘Salvation to the Jew first, then the Gentile (goyim). So Jesus reuniting Israel is perfectly in line with Messiahs mission statement. Hope this helps, sorry about the lack of brevity.

@@dkelley9661 Jesus said he came not but for the lost sheep of the "house" of Israel, the northern 10 tribes

@Pedro Cavalcanti Yisra'el (the House of Yisra'el) never took the name Yisra'el for themselves. Don't forget that YHWH tore the 10 tribes known as the House of Yisra'el away from the sovereignty of Rehob'am King of Yahuwdah. It was YHWH who set Yarob'am of the tribe of Ephrayim, as king over the northern tribes. Ya'aqob (Yisra'el) gave Ephrayim and Maneshsheh his name. The two houses(Yahuwdahand Yisra'el) have always been rival sisters. These two, the House of Yisra'el (under leadership of Ephrayim -Oholah the elder; that is: Samaria), and the House of Yahuwdah (Yahuwdah incorporating the tribe of Binyamin - Oholibah; that is: Yerushalayim) were whores in Mitz'rayim as Yechezk'el 23 states. The tribe of Yahuwdah is not of the House of Dawid. Rather, it was only the tribe of Yahuwdah (including the tribe of Binyamin) that followed the House of Dawid when Rehob'am denied same status rights to the House of Yisra'el as he had allowed for the House of Yahuwdah. Binyamin was given to Yahuwdah for Dawid's sake - to be a light. We know from the account that there were many from the northern Kingdom that actually ended up in the cities of the tribe of Yahuwdah after Yarob'am set up the calves and chose his own priests from the people, thus getting rid of the Levi'im. These Levi'im went to the cities of Yahuwdah. Yowseph was the first born son of the loved wife. Reu'ben was the first-born son of the unloved wife. According to ha Torah, the husband cannot give first-born double-portion birthright blessings to the first born of the loved wife over the other. But Reu'ben jumped up onto his father's concubine's bed, therefore, he forfeited his status as far as blessings. So Yowseph, the son of the loved wife received this status, a prince among his brothers. So Re'uben is only regarded first born in genealogy, but Yowseph in first-born son, double portion blessings. This blessing then was passed on to Ephrayim, not Maneshsheh via Ya'aqob. YHWH has declared the end from the beginning, so the man who made a vow to YHWH and could not go back on his word, is the same man who married two virgin sisters at Sinai. The same man who listened to her making her vows and rash obligations, the same man who kept silent after he had heard. The same man who cast away one of his brides because of her adultery and idolatey so she became almanuth, and the same man who sent the other bride into exile for seventy years because of her whoredoms. The same man who after a long time, made null and void her rash obligations, thus bearing the consequent guilt. This man is Yahuwshua, of Bmidbar 30. The House of Yisra'el is the barren woman of Yeshayahu 54. In 54, we learn of YHWH's love for us. Yahuwshua walked through the pieces in covenant with Abraham alone. Yahuwshua took full responsibility for Abraham's descendants, to fulfill the oath and promise that YHWH had made to Abram before his name was changed. But the husband cast away (azab) the wife of her youth (10 tribes) , so how could he keep his promise to Abraham? He is the man of Bmidbar 30; he bore the consequent guilt because of his oath to YHWH. He made null and void our ancestors' rash obligations at sinai, because we who are the house of Yisra'el in the land of our enemies, we who have been cast away (as a divorced woman, bereaved as a widow) who have gone from being Yisra'el to gentiles (forgetting YHWH, forgetting Torah, mo'ed'im, forgetting who we were), there was no pardoning of our rash vows in Bmidbar 30. How was the promise to Abram to be fulfilled if we are cast away? Yahuwshua the husband of our ancestors, thus, our husband, bore the consequent guilt on our behalf. Now according to Torah, we are not bound anymore by that Torah obligation concerning that marriage. Yahuwshua the husband has died, and the katuba that was a witness to our adulteries has been wiped clean. We at free now to marry another, for the Torah also teaches us that we cannot go back to our husband, that would make the land unclean. So the husband has paid the price and we are free to marry the risen ha Mashiach in the future if we keep the commands of YHWH and hold fast to the testimonies of Yahuwshua ha Mashiach. Most of our brother Yahuwdah rejected Yahuwshua her husband at that time (though not all, for Sha'ul speaks of a remnant at that time) so that gave way to the message of forgiveness to go out to all the nations in all the lands where the House of Yisra'el (Yahuwshua's other flock) had been sent to, so that whoever would hear and make teshuvah, would have their transgressions forgiven so they could be reconciled back to YHWH and back to Yisra'el.... for Yahuwdah in those days was known as Yisra'el, for the House of Yisra'el had been forsaken. That is why it is said, "not all the current Yisra'el that is known as Yisra'el, is Yisra'el ." That is why it is said, "when the fullness of the gentiles (the House of Yisra'el -remnant of the 10 northern tribes) comes in, then all Yisra'el (kol Yisra'el... but only a remnant) shall be saved.

If you're an open minded person look up Jacob chapter 5. You'll find more to your answer than you ever thought possible.

Edom / Esav = Rome / Christianity (the Babylonian-Roman Mithraic Mystery Religion anti-nomian Apostasy from ancient historical Nazarene / Essene Judaism)

@PLN Where? Where is the name Yahweh commanded? I find Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh given in 3:13-17 by the Creator as His name FOREVER! Since Yahweh means Yah Saves, I pray that you will test everything as we are told to do and research the origin of Yah. The wolves crept in long long ago.

America just one of the nations that have done it.

USA landed on the Moon ??? No shit !! ? o.O

Christopher Brown no, eagle, bull, lion & man are a cherubim- this is deep! To deep for this. These are Gods hints as to who fell. The Covering Cherubim that fell -face of lion man eagle bull -that’s what all the world worships a cherub - he can be all those at once or separate into individual 4. It’s deep. They are how the nations are divided & 4 points of zodiac.

Wow! You, also, have opened my eyes! I won't forget this.

Ricky Spicer it's all so called white people aka red people! White people lived in the cliff of the rock in Georgia, Russia.

Iran. The Citadel of Susa are the crags and nested heights. It's scattered rubble now. The citadel sat on top of the silk road, going through Northern Iran. This all may have already happened.

The question misses the point of the whole discussion. You are trying to pull back a literal meaning to something he just used hours to open your mind to see beyond the literal Edom. Go listen again.

True to YHVH God’s word, the small tribe of Edom lost their tribal identity as forewarned in Ezekiel & were absorbed into other Middle Eastern area people groups. We see their spirit alive & continually attacking Israel in the ideology that not only surrounds & dwells within Israel today, but actually controls the Temple Mount.

Larry Steinwand Matthew 24 is future looking. I have seen it tied to revelation.

While I agree, I don't see that Israel will face future judgement exclusive for them. After the temple destruction, that was it for Israel. Any judgement Israel receives in the future seems to be overall judgement against ALL nations, not just exclusively for Israel, and Israel alone.

israel ends in 2022

@@sadokbenthabet8317 what? Why would you just type that?!

@@gfunks881 Matthew 24 IS prophetic! In the text it states clearly, in the narrative called the Olivet Discourse, is that Jesus is telling His disciples, upon their questioning, about how they can recognize the End of Days! So we have the Messiah, telling His disciples, how and when the End will be. So the biggest issue is how much do you trust Messiah’s words?

No. The borders of the incident are mentioned in the text, and even the inclusion of Assyria.

Mia DoubleZeroSeven No, the people that are judged to the 3rd & 4th generation are all evil descendants of the Nephilim . Hybrids. Eventually that’s breed out over time of the ones who remained. But all of them were always extended the opportunity to repent yet the chose evil instead. Mia, if you’d start at Michael Heiser Website at the beginning he walks you through Genesis to Revelation. All the “people “ destroy in the OT were hybrids, Nephilim or people who chose to worship them and reek Havice . It’s because you’ve never understood this . God didn’t destroy these things or people for hate, he did it to protect you & me from there evil and the line of the Messiah. If you don’t understand this the Bible is lost on you.

Mia DoubleZeroSeven read that in Hebrew or Greek the language it originally was written -hate means DENOUNCE -English translators picked hate it wasn’t the original word. Like I said you don’t understand the fallen & corruption of the human bloodlines with evil that God was correcting.

Mia DoubleZeroSeven exodus 17:16 Amalek are the descendants of Esau. They were Isaacs cousins FAMILY-they turned their back on Israel several times when Israel asked for help. Then helped Babylon destroy Judah and drag them into exile. Esau is now Sadia Arabia -Muslims God haters, idol worshiper who want to kill all Jews & Christians . You must have context for these verses.

Mia DoubleZeroSeven simple fix, online blue letter bible you can pierce the English language and read it in Hebrew with their online version-click on the lexicon to see what a word means in Hebrew or Greek . Next you must know what’s going on in the story before you jump to conclusions. Yes I hate or denounce some translation because the translator did the best he could back then. There are updated versions of the Bible that are now correcting these errors. Logos bible, I’m on Twitter MAGA Betsy contact me I’ll point you in the right direction. Again your lack of background knowledge is why your misinterpreting these meanings.