Namor knew about T’challa revealing the power of vibranium to the world. Wouldn’t be surprised if he knew about what thanos did as well. Your point still stands though.
@@Bowser64798 Namor seems to semi-regularly go to the surface and, to some extent, interacts with the local Yucatan people at the very least. Even if his people aren't affected, he probably knew what happened.
In the Endgame, Captain mentioned that he saw a pod of whales in hudson this means that namor came to see what happened to the world but he didn't do anything because he never want the world to find about them.
i got a feeling he did go to the surface just to see what was going on but did not engage. He probably lost half of his people so he didn't want to push it. Also, since he is the strongest I can imagine he went alone and traveled far each time just to test the waters. He probably saw the ocean was getting cleaner and more wildlife was showing up.
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@@monsta6501 Something as important as half ALL life in the universe disappearing was devastating to everyone. I think the story behind what happened Talokan during the blip was just taking up too much time for the writers, or they decided against some context becasue the scene didn't work out. More than likely they did come with some commentary to make Thanos relevant here, but we'll never know what made them decide against it.
He only cares for HIS people. His Kingdom only. He’s not someone that would give thought to what happened in the surface world, unless there is something to benefit, whether if it’s for Talocan or himself.
@@theh3romma in terms of that, multiple things could’ve happened. Either none of his people did disappear (by luck), and if so, Namor woulda either sent some of his remaining to look for the blipped (even having no knowledge of Thanos whatsoever), and if not successful, Namor woulda kept the seas under surveillance from the surface world, and stay to protect his people from other potential threats. Either that or he attacked other nations close by since he might’ve thought that other nations kidnapped his people. He would do anything as long as his people are safe and notably, as long as his statements are clear. He’d attack to make sure that NO ONE knows of his people and if anyone did, it’s war. Statements: Don’t mess with him or his people.
@@hugechunkydragon8984ya, 50% of the whole universe may means close to infinite amount of lives, and half of that is atleast quadrillions that made it out alive namor's people are not even close to 10k so there's a bigger chance of all of them making it out alive than one of them got vanished
They didnt join the first fight vs Thanos because it wasn't 'their problem'. When it affected them they set up base underwater near Wakanda (where the fight happened) which caused quakes and waited to join the fight..which never happened
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If you heard Nat told Okoya about an earthquake in the Atlantic Ocean as well. So not only did 1/2 of his people get dusted, but the rest had to deal with devastating effects of the earthquake
1. He was probably confused went to the surface world and found out who did it but couldn't find Thanos so he went back to his people 2. He also got dusted but we don't know that but it could be true he got dusted but just didn't tell shuri
He did come to the surface and when he realized half of the surface world's population was gone which, to him, was acceptable since it decreased the chances of human activity affecting his people and kingdom. In Endgame they specifically say that sea life had begun to rebound after the blip.
he did. he has a good understanding of what is happening on the surface. like his knowledge of the scientist who created the vibranium machine and how to find her. probably just kept it lowkey
It’s Likely that non of Namor’s people got dusted. With the soul stone it’s likely that Thanos could tell that talokan existed and at the same time know that they would never come to the surface so they would never be in the way
@@ImSoConvinced the only time i remember him sparing tony was in the titan fight where strange gave Thanos the time stone so that he wouldn't kill Tony.
I asked the same question that's why I was confused when Coogler said they told him that the earthquake was just an earthquake especially with the whole whales comment in Endgame. They're just not filling in the gaps well.
if he join in the end game he could easily wipe out thanos army and thanos would be the only one left. Marvel has alot of character the remove so that it's a fair fight. Like quicksilve if they didn't remove quicksilver there's no one on thanos army can catch quicksilver while running with the gauntlet.
I personally believe that either everyone in Talokan was dusted, nobody in Talokan was dusted, or Namor was dusted. It’s clear that Namor would start a war for even one of his people
I wonder if acting rulers established any particular contengencies (when rising to power shortly after their leaders were "blipped away") for how to handle the potential return of "blipped" leaders whose roles had to be filled due to their disappearance
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More than likely, a scene or commentary that was relevant to the blip was cut to save time, or the scene just didn't flow. Do wish they could have made it work somehow. Have to admit, I don't like how such a universe-changing event like that doesn't have a lasting effect in every character and their motives even after end game. Maybe writers think that audiences want to move on from that event, but to me, it seems un-immersive. Thinking of the US today, things like 9/11 and Covid still effect all of our lives and we still refer to times post or pre in context. It's not something that people are just going to forget about. Plus it pushes people that are not so much into the whole MCU to go and watch those movies, and help them get more invested in the MCU. MCU is getting more complicated with every film, and every film is getting more important to watch in order to understand the upcoming bigger films. Multiverse war/secret wars is going to be insane, I can't imagine MCU being as approachable to the casual viewer very soon. Context will become key. Loki series is the most important contextual media in the MCU and it's still unwatched by most fans. It's going to be hard for Marvel to make good MCU movies that are relevant to past material and be approachable to casual audiences.
He probably went up himself, hiding who he was and learned what happened. Still, you would think he would go seek out the avengers to get real answers and find out if they can bring them back.
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I'm sure he was able to get to surface and spy on the world to get a better understanding of what happened. But less people means less pollution in water, animals thrived better (its even mentioned on Endgame that dolphins were making their way alongside the bay). Once he got an understanding of what happened, he probably just accepted it. He mourned the ones lost but as an Azteca, death is a huge part of life. So it just is what it is. Continued to rule until people came back.... Now with double the population, the pollution goes back up. Mouths to feed goes back up. Fishing goes back up.... So it makes perfect sense why he was so agitated once Wakanda forever starts, he's probably already been on edge with the surface world going back to over fishing, drilling and polluting.
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He strictly is for the ocean like strict strict the inly reason we seen him in the mcu is becuz they had the idea to have his vibranium found. If it wasn’t found neither would have he
In endgame there are some references, I don't know if they are confirmed or not, but in my opinion I think that maybe the earthquake that Nat and Okote talked about had something to do with it, also the cap mentions that he observed whales in the Hudson river, maybe it was Namor watching and secretly discovering what happened in the whole world, also since he did not want his people to be discovered, it is likely that he saw the Blip as an act of god since in the movie they are quite religious with their god.
After the 5 year jump they talk about an underwater earthquake off the coast of Africa. I wonder if there’s a connection there as well. Also it seemed like they avoided the topic entirely how it affected wakanda. They acted like Tchalla only stopped protecting wakanda after his death. Not the 5 years before
He didn't know what caused it, and had no way of doing anything about it. Exposing his kingdom when it just lost half it's population did not strike him as a good idea
Namor and his people were certainly active, just don’t know wtf specifically they were doing. They were mentioned in endgame, and I think infinity war as well? Regardless, endgame is the only context that matters here. No matter what, we know Namor and his people were active since there were so many reports about really scary and obscure activity going on in the sea. So Namor certainly felt the affects of half of the universe blipping and for him, well, the whole sea had to have his senses going bonkers since he can speak with other sea life. I love these small little details and things to pick up on. While we might not have a concrete answer, part of what makes worlds and mythos so fun is being able to take bits of information and interpolate and expand.
I feel like half of his ppl did disappear and he didn’t know why so he did come up to the surface and observed that it wasn’t just his ppl and didn’t want the risk of being exposed so he decided to ride it out and protect the rest that remained he goes to great lengths to hide his existence showing up to fight would have exposed him im guessing he decided to let the avengers fight it out and hed come out if theyd fail id have done the same lol i can imagine him just sitting down there waiting lol
The Blip is still affecting the MCU, they named dropped Thanos and the event on literally every film and show since endgame but Namor not mentioning anything about the snap or Thanos had me a lil disappointed, imean it was a universal event, how could they have him him mention something about the Blip in any capacity like “well surface dwellers deserved to be snapped, I’m not surprised “ something to that effect
If his people didn't want it he would not want it. Namor is a leader by consequence unlike Wakandan kings. Namor doesn't have the same values as a king.
i believe Endgame had some allusions to Namor taking some action with Okoye telling Nat she would investigate an underwater disturbances. But ultimately this is the inherent problem with trying to keep a natrative through line with an entire cinematic universe
Because they didn't have the rights to Namor. They just threw him in wakanda Forever. So they don't include those things you're talkin about but hopefully they do on future movies.
Possibly, he didn't do any investigating in fear that he would lose the rest of his people. Plus, the five years waited, and he made sure that his surviving peoples did get dusted. That Namor tripled the security on the home land. Then, when the rest returned, he was preparing for a war with the surface world to take revenge for the lost comrades, but when they came back, he was more concerned with their well-being than revenge. He became more paranoid on keeping his people safe. 🌊 🧜♂️ 🧜♀️ 🧜♂️ 🧜♀️ that my guess
I think he was definitely dusted and that's why he's so quick to act in WF. His leadership is not as secure as always. He was dusted, came back and has to work to get back what he had. He is their god and he wasn't able to save them from that.
Its possible none if his people dusted. The blip was random. Not exactly half of every group was dusted. The High Evolutionary's experiments didnt seem to dust or anyone from Ta-Lo or anybod the skrulls?
“It doesn’t seem likely he was dusted” well how can you say that? I mean we simply do not know what happened, but also how can we be certain that if Namor did emphatically survived, that he did not do anything? If he did survive it’s reasonable based off of his character that he would’ve done a very small crew investigation on the surface world or possibly done so himself. The Avengers came out to the public explaining what happened so it’s no figure that he would’ve eventually figured out what happened and then at that point it’s like what can you do? Lol
Quit using double negatives Why didn't Naymor do anything Or Why did Naymor not do anything "Why didn't Naymor not do anything" Is implying Naymor did do something
@@theh3romma They think Namor is a god. If he suddenly vanished and then REAPPEARED, you don't think Attuma would willingly relinquish the throne back to his god?
