Native Titan X 12.5 VS Hobie Pro Angler 14 

Really good side-by-side walkthrough. (Only two statements I thought were off were the length and weight capacities - but anyone buying would look up the mfr's specs). Again, well done!

The rudder issue shouldn't be a problem once you get wheels on it. I'll take the instant reverse titan all day.

Thanks man for the comparison.. native titan x.. let's gooooo....now I just need the $$$

Hobie Pro Angler 14 holds 600lbs not what you stated 360 ....

Great review! Wouldn’t you want a kayak trailer instead of throwing it in the back of the truck?

Hobie tough tire ai. Mariner sails has the wheels . I would put those on a groovy or boonedox.

Jeez where's the stereo and speakers. Putting a boat like that on the ocean would be dangerous, Or the simple fact you have tons of tackle and you would be digging in the box is all the time and not paying attention to the swells, I don't believe kayaks are meant to be floating stores.

Two things to consider. The Hobie fin drive is far superior to the propeller drive and with the Native, you can expect to have two inches of water in your cockpit at all times.

Both great yaks, not even an owner of either but the hobie seems to have so much more deck space if that’s what someone wants.

Native titan has to have a motor on it because it paddles like a barge.

Everybody has tons of gear, poles, batteries, tackle boxes ,tackle, very unnecessary, never a fish box, tank wells are always full of bags and boxes. Never a gaff holder. The most important thing on a kayak is open space. To move around. Stability. Place to put your fish. And a fat rudder so you can steer when you're on the water.

Good input. Very thoughtful comments. The propriety H rails were one of the things that moved me toward the Native. I just visited Rock town last week to look at the 12.5.

Xi3 on the hobie is front-end heavy. I came from pa14. Once you experience it on the X. It is much more stable with the Xi3. Put the scuffer in halfway when you have the Xi3. I 100% like it more than the pa14. Wouldn't of thought that, but it's a great yak the X is.

Crank down the pedal arms really hard. Put more lithium grease in drive. On the inside put goop on rudder line. I have natives for years and great kayaks. When I worked in a kayak shop at a.c.k I saw hobie in our emergency room all the time for cracks and drive etc issues. You can go on yak squad and see where the ideas me and woody Callaway came up with .

Nice video. I’m a Pro Angler guy and came from a Native Titan. When i saw the X it was intriguing but the hobie drive itself for me beats the titan. The storage inside the hull is a much bigger deal for me than i thought. Some things on the X like the battery storage would be nice but my biggest complaint i had with my Titan was the thru hull rudder. Just wasn’t a fan of it. If someone could combine the two together it would be the perfect fishing kayak. 😂

I own the PA 14 and love it. A buddy of mine has the titan and it always has water in it. I also prefer the drive system. Also, most of us run a motor in the back and there are mounts and foot steering that make it super sweet.

The rudder thing is not the best. I put the sidekicks on it. Helps 100%. It's worth the money.

Came from a PA 12 360 to a titan x 12.5. Hobie is great but there's really no comparison. Never like the H-rails. Too high and you have to buy lots of extras just to mount stuff. Stability is night and day better on the Native.

Pretty soon fishing yaks will be so big they'll call them bass boats.

Native took a lot of ideas from nucanoe unlimited. Great kayak

Sidekick is junk....roll pins bend. Just look around and you will see sidekicks with one wheel lower than the other. A cart with 2 inch center pvc bunks at 8 inch on center is a superior solution.

Just got my native Titan X 12.5 last week and I think my only complaint so far, is just the rudder handle, I mean it works and sure you can buy a Burley pro metal handle but for a kayak that was almost $4,000 out the door, that stock rudder handle is so cheap feeling compared to everything else on the boat.

Would the native titan be good on saltwater

The drive is pretty important.

Lol reast in peace hobie.

How much for da hobie

Prepare to be disappointed

I've been kayaking for a very long time and I have learned less is better. You roll over in the water you wanna be able to get back in. And if you drag your fish over the side of the boat expect to see sharks. Not kidding

Ordered the Titan X 12.5 in the grey color. When will you have a on the water video up?