Natural Gas Generator Hook Up People Should Stop!!!

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In this video I show a example of a bad DIY mod people are still doing today that is extremely dangerous. This could severely harm you and your neighbors if you are not paying attention or don’t know what you are doing. Please use the proper items when messing with propane and NG. Use yellow gas tape or pipe dope as well as a regulator when dealing with NG or LPG. #Dangerous #generator #diy #stop
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@jamesalles139 Год назад

It is more than a regulator. It is a *safety valve* that is held open by the slight vacuum being pulled by the carburetor while the engine is running. The pressure differential is why the diaphragm is so large. But you are absolutely correct, the device is needed - even for connection to a 20-pound propane tank!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yup by the correct stuff. 👍🏼

@BryanTorok Год назад

Thank you for the explanation. I was wondering how a regulator would solve the problem. All a regulator would do is reduce the pressure. It would not stop the flow. So, how does this type of regulator control the flow of gas based on the load on the generator?

@johnnysweekends Год назад

The vacuum of the engine will open the diaphragm as needed. The load control block up top will control the mixture which you need to pre adjust. Once set then good to go.

@cwilks5592 Год назад

So my generator that is manufactured to be dual fuel isn't safe? And if it is can that same hose with attached regulator be also used on the natural gas line. I don't see the difference between a natural gas supply and a propane supply. My generator doesn't leak propane when it's not running. Thanks

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Your unit is fine and has a shut off built with in the unit. I have a video coming out soon showing what is and isn’t compatible for Ng

@guyztruth4593 Год назад

I have never seen or heard of anyone doing this, worst yet you probably gave people some ideas lol Still enjoy your videos!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Maybe but hopefully not. You can’t stop stupid. But there are videos showing how to do this thinking it’s a good idea.

@shanew7361 Год назад

Overeducated idiots are everywhere unfortunately.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

They are among us…😂

@coreybabcock2023 Год назад

@@johnnysweekends so much more so than 10 years ago

@johnnysweekends Год назад

You’re welcome 👍🏼😀

@Jon_Flys_RC Год назад

If you want a propane or dual fuel generator, get that kind of generator. All generators have a governor to maintain frequency in response to load, the fuel supply should never be throttled to the engine.

@vincentrobinette1507 Месяц назад

That's the problem with this make-shift setup. The governor varies the throttle valve in the carburetor, but the fuel flow remains constant. If it throttles back, the engine runs extremely rich. If the engine is loaded, it opens, and can run too lean. The gas MUST be throttled proportionately to the air, to maintain proper fuel/air mixture. (Why you need the right regulator)

@michael_house Год назад

Man - I didn't have the mental capacity to even realize I could use my propane generator with natural gas. Thanks for the video. I'll go ahead and binge watch the rest of your videos now. Appreciate it!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Lol no problem. Let me know if you have questions 😁👍🏼

@losttribe1993 Год назад

Same here😂

@ACommenterOnYouTube 5 дней назад

You can't ..... at least it wont run properly. Natural Gas burns different than propane. This is why they make TRI-FUEL generators.

@dunckeroo1987 Год назад

I believe the proper conversion kit comes with a negative pressure regulator : Vacuum has to be present in intake manifold for gas to flow. And someone also mentioned an electric cut-off solenoid for fail-safe redundancy. It would be simple if you have a quick connect for your barbecue, but if your power has failed you might want to use your barbecue if your electric oven has no juice.

@ysidroavila6454 Год назад

I have seen this all over recently with the power outages and lack of supplies for people to run their generators. This should be shared widely. I appreciate you sharing this video

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Thank you. Tell people to buy a appropriate setup. I’ll have a video out soon showing what could work with a existing dual fuel unit. Probably sunday

@ysidroavila6454 Год назад

I will definitely share and tell them. I used to be a fire brigadier at an oil refinery, specifically a gas plant with 300psi natural gas and 400 psi propane lines. A vapor cloud is bad news and can create a vapor explosion from a simple spark from an non intrinsically safe device.

@tracyjohnson737 Год назад

Holy smokes! Good thing you posted this. Most people have no idea what you're doing or how dangerous it is. You probably saved some lives..thanks for posting this video

@peterking2794 Год назад

This would be highly illegal in the UK. Nobody is allowed to do any work on or make any modifications to a gas service unless they are trained and registered 'Gas-safe' engineers

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yea all countries are different.

@daveonezero6258 Год назад

Yeah well this is America we have some more freedom for a lot of reasons. Many people have their own tanks on their land and no one else owns or controls it.

@max7768 Год назад

@@daveonezero6258 But I'm sure it's taxed one way or another

@gm08351 Год назад

lol

@johnnysweekends Год назад

You still wanna use the proper equipment though…👍🏼

@rupe53 Год назад

The internal regulator some are talking about here is not a regulator at all. It's a load block, and that's how you adjust the mixture difference between NG and propane, plus fine tuning for load variations and sometimes BTU availability of the fuel itself. (will vary by region) It's got a set screw and a lock nut... and once set you leave it alone. Regulators all have a diaphragm inside and most UL approved gaseous sets also have a gas solenoid as an extra safety feature. Matter of fact, I believe UL approval requires both the solenoid and a demand regulator. If you are not set up properly and have an issue your insurance company might have a field day!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

You are correct, a load block it’s for adjusting and this century unit is a all in one. A shut off, a regulator that’s manually adjusted with the adjustment nut so you can run NG or LPG. Then from there it depends what you are trying to run will determine other things like line size and more.

@tristanschaper281 Год назад

VERY, VERY good advice! You are totally correct. On a positive note, all of these dual fuel Genmax gens are really neat. They seem to be very innovative and ahead of the market with their dual fuel, 120/240 on larger units, and other great features. They have totally filled a gap in the market that nobody else has. I’m wondering what else they have planned for future units.

@rob21 Год назад

I've read some bad reviews regarding the construction quality of Genmax gens. I hope they're wrong because this particular model is very interesting!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

They are definitely filling gaps for sure. And being a new company customer service takes a while to get going. But they do better then most off brands at the moment. If not Honda or Yamaha then champion then Genmax. And stay tuned for updates on new models..😀😉

@johnnysweekends Год назад

I have as well but that goes for every manufacturer. Also owner has to be considered. So after a while I have to toss some reviews and see which are legit from several different resources of reviews. I hope they continue to bring different models and make sure quality goes up. Or they will dissolve slowly.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Exactly, just do it right. 👍🏼

@REALBanannaman Год назад

Genmax is just a brand, they don't make them.

@night_bot3798 Год назад

Thanks for the great idea! I’m gonna be the guy who does the $3 dollar install with used fittings out of the miscellaneous fittings bucket in my shop

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Lol gezzz I hope not. You would be as bad as the video I found this from lol

@946towguy2 Год назад

It is a HUGE code violation for a customer to connect to the test port of the outlet tee. The customer connections must only be connected to the back side of that tee, such as replacing that bronze 90 by the wall with a tee.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Mine is already replaced with the original plug after making a couple videos that day. Mainly to show people this bad diy that is going around. I would have gone on the back side but I would have had to reconfigure the whole thing. Verses the 45 second switch.

@vincentrobinette1507 Месяц назад

If you did this in my state, your service would be "red-tagged" and the gas would be shut off.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 5 дней назад

My parents had the gas company put in a connector specifically for the generator.

@Native_love Год назад

Unrelated story time: My friend is a fire Chief who told me once of a large fire that they put out in a shed. They found out afterwards that a huge (250-500lbs???) filled propane tank was in the shack and was just about to blow up when they started spraying it with warer point blank. The owner didn't tell them that tank was in there!They got lucky!

@JackThelRipper Год назад

Those tanks won’t normally blow, they will BLEVE from a valve, look it up neat stuff…

@American-Motors-Corporation Год назад

@@JackThelRipper lol bliung off gas during a fire through the "relief valve would have been bad followed by big boom! Look it up it's really neat stuff!

@Bryan-Hensley Год назад

I was a firefighter for years, you'll know it if a propane tank is about to rupture. The safety blow off valve will look like a huge blow torch blowing a stream of fire 15 to 30 feet long. They don't blow up, they split from the internal gas pressure due to the heat.

@Bryan-Hensley Год назад

@@American-Motors-Corporation not necessarily. Depends on how hot the fire got the tank. They don't blow up, they rupture from the liquid turning into a vapor inside the tank creating extreme pressure. The relief valve will handle most house fire temperatures without letting the tank rupture.

@American-Motors-Corporation Год назад

@@Bryan-Hensley lol right, fire in building all around the tank, then being ejected from tank via the "relief valve" is the gas, you at the very least have a huge blow torch. Yes ot most likely would explode!

@slidewaze Год назад

Thanks for the link to the gas detector. Just used the link and got mine for $17. Nice find. I've been working around propane lately for work so this is a nice, simple tool to have on board. Thanks again. And REALLY? People do this NG hack? Scary!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Dude great buy on the pen!! I thought $23 ish was the cheapest but who knows lol. And yes there are a couple RU-vid video showing how to do just that. And have even had people comment which I delete those.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 5 дней назад

If you cant smell propane or NG you have a bigger problem ....

@MJF40 Год назад

Wow ! I know some people are clueless, but this is crazy on another level. 😮

@johnnysweekends Год назад

It is, yet people still do it. Stupid!

@ericschepers9317 Год назад

@@johnnysweekends mhm. There should ever be a valve even on the output of the meter...

@fryloc359 Год назад

Its a good video, other than making it sound like propane and natural gas are interchangeable.

@vincentrobinette1507 Месяц назад

They are, with the right metering jets for the fuel you're using.

@i2rtw 29 дней назад

@@vincentrobinette1507 also note that energy density is as follows: Diesel > gasoline > propane > methane (natural gas) Using natural gas in your dual fuel generator will work, if properly set up, but will de-rate the generator’s capacity even lower than propane.

@Defianthuman 21 день назад

But it’s so much more readily available that it makes sense to use.

@slatsgrobneck7515 11 дней назад

@@vincentrobinette1507 Yes, and those aren't inexpensive in my experience. Plus the time spent ordering the jets from the manufacturer and installing them once they arrive. I planned ahead and have the jets for both fuels, glad i have them.

@alanmolox2095 Год назад

Kudos to you for this video. I know these well-made videos take a LOT of time, you sacrificed your time and maybe saved a whole lot of lives for this, thank you!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Thank you, it’s just to make people aware of a couple bad videos 😀👍🏼

@sfranklin9073 Год назад

Do not use propane on natural gas or vise versa. The proper orifices along with the proper regulator is a must. Both need to be utilized with the correct water column pressure designed for the appliance, whatever that appliance is. Go by manufacturer specs. Living for a new day.

@unmountablebootvolume 22 дня назад

Yep, one of the first things they tell you when becoming a plumber in Germany, they usually even tell it to those without a gas certificate, just in case.

@42luke93 Год назад

This is brilliant! Usually gas works during outages since it’s underground the pipes. Never knew such a generator existed.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

This is what not to do..!!! Please don’t!

@42luke93 Год назад

@@johnnysweekends I mean I didn't know Natural Gas generators exist. Do it properly with that $100 regulator piece and it is a good idea right?

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yes that is the correct way and making sure your feed from the gas is legal. I have installed a few kits not. Gas generators turning them to tri fuel units

@john-marcedwards9221 Год назад

My mind is literally blown right now In a current estimated week long power outage in Oklahoma. I was evening of having a gas line installed in my backyard but had no idea this was even a thing!! New sub here!!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Oh yea, even worse a RU-vidr promoting it. Just stick a open line in your generator and hope for the best 🙄

@christopherleubner6633 Год назад

You need a proportional demand regulator. The ones used for propane powered forklifts are nice and come with several safety features too.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yesss!! Correct, verses other videos showing a straight hose! 🙄

@LFTRnow Год назад

When I first saw this I thought it was a good idea for a backup generator. The explanation is to the point and clear. Nice to have a 3-minute video to show exactly what people do, why not to do it, how it goes wrong, and how (comparatively) cheap it is to fix with a regulator. Very well done! About the only thing I might add (maybe a part 2 vid) show the right way with the regulator. I wouldn't have thought a regulator would prevent leaks, but I'm guessing it has some kind of auto shutoff somehow?

@johnnysweekends Год назад

I should probably do another… showing what’s needed

@Krankie_V Год назад

That regular is sometimes called a "demand regulator" and it outputs gas based on engine vacuum. So if the engine stops, it produces no vacuum, and the regulator stops the flow. 👍

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Correct..!👍🏼😀

@UKsystems Месяц назад

You could potentially get a solenoid valve and a power supply plugged into the generator if you start it off another fuel such that when the power stops the gas is disconnected. I have done that in addition to connecting it properly.

@kevinlauzon7665 Год назад

Great video. I never knew anyone was doing this and NOT using a regulator. Wow! Thanks for sharing.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yup, you can find the those videos on this same platform. 🤦🏼‍♂️

@AnonymousGameWarden Год назад

A lot of people are doing this. And guess why it works... when the generator turns off, the entire house loses power. That's a better warning than any regulator will ever give you.

@JAM-zb2vh 18 дней назад

Thank you for teaching people how to fix it correctly and not blow my home up with my nabors. God bless

@ACommenterOnYouTube 5 дней назад

Thats not going to happen.

@evictioncarpentry2628 Год назад

The only thing you need to do is put a conversion kit on it which has a different size jet. Nothing wrong with it at all, if you do it as above and ditch the ball valve as a regulator. Its obviously not "approved" but it works.

@vincentrobinette1507 Месяц назад

I don't mind a ball valve as a cut-off so the generator can be disconnected from the hose, but, it should be capped when not in use. It just takes a neighborhood kid to come and turn the valve on, releasing natural gas into the air. What ever you do, it needs to be tamper-resistant, when not in use.

@100vg Год назад

Thanks! I would have installed a regulator anyway, to adjust and set flow for correct 3600 rpm and an accurate 120 VAC at 60 Hz precisely or very close, but now I know why it is necessary.

@Gruntled2001 Год назад

And while you’re at it, please do not backfeed your dryer outlet from your generator 😊

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yes, please stop that as well. 🤔😁👍🏼

@mikeconley8111 Год назад

A guy up the street from was doing this. One night sounded like a bomb going off. He lost his garage, 2 cars, a truck, and part of his roof. He was lucky.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

And that’s why I’m here lol. Do it right people!! 😂👍🏼

@Dat_Sun Год назад

My Cummins 12kw auto switching system has a leaky gas solenoid. Aside from a impressive backfire on startup it has never been a problem. It's on the list of things to fix.

@rob21 Год назад

I don't know anyone that does what you specify in this video. No NG or tri-fuel conversion kit companies recommend this either. But it's good you posted this for people who might.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Well there are a couple RU-vid videos going around showing people exactly this. Hence why I made the video…! Very dangerous

@jregamey Год назад

You could add a 12v valve so when gen shuts off the valve shuts too....

@microdesigns2000 Год назад

The other day while driving from our home in Minnesota to Illinois, my wife and I were discussing generators for the house. I had an idea to connect our small generator to natural gas and use a small transfer switch to move the furnace circuit to the generator. Electrically this is pretty easy for me (I do controls for a living). I had not thought through the gas circuit and how to keep it safe. Well a couple of days later, lo and behold, what comes up in my feed but this video. Google is always listening to everything we are saying. Now, about this video; A regulator will make the operation of the generator stable under variable load. But how will the regulator shut off the gas supply if the generator fails?

@johnnysweekends Год назад

The regulator just puts out correct pressure but a regulator with stop pin and load adjustment does it all. When vacuum is stopped diaphragm closes and pin closes off from pipe pressure. When gen fires vacuum opens up or pulls open diaphragm and allows gas to flow and the load or demand regulator controls amount of flow per what the gen needs based on rpm. The correct components will let you switch any gas gen or even some dual fuel models which I will have a video out in a few days on that.

@Well_I_am_just_saying Год назад

@@johnnysweekends I want to convert my 8000 watt Generac gas generator to propane. Do you know the best place to get a conversion kit? Would I need to go directly to Generac?

@REALBanannaman Год назад

@@Well_I_am_just_saying Motor Snorkel makes a generic kit for most generators

@johnnysweekends Год назад

There are a couple places like US Carburetor is one you can see if they have a kit or check eBay with you generatorname. Several kits fit different models

@Teh_Random_Canadian Год назад

Put in a 120v solenoid value. Manually hold it open to start the generator and when it is running it will work like a start stop circuit. Generator fails, solenoid closes.

@nicolassanchez8318 25 дней назад

This is a great idea. Hooking up my generator now. Forget gasoline and diesel.

@dipstick5869 Год назад

Very important safety information Johnny, Thank You!🙂

@kennethwallace4338 Год назад

Almost thought this was going be about people using this on the inlet feed ( bootleg). Been in a house once where someone did that to run their gas pipe to pipe no meter, only gas appliance still working after that was their Dearborn heater, pressure tore the other controls up. Pretty sure something like that would destroy one of those generators straight piped. Excellent video.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

If not enough gas it couldn’t definitely be to lean and slowly burn the engine down. To much will cause a rich condition and probably shut it off then letting the gas continue to flow since people don’t want to pay for the correct set up

@robertmerrill4326 День назад

I've converted dozens gas logs, fireplace and bbqs between the 2 fuels. There always was an orfice change and an air shutter adjustment. Also a pilot orfice if one exists. If they run lp on ng the btus where higher because of the greater pressure and there would be excessive sooting becuase the air shutter isnt fully opened. Ive never seen but would imagine running ng on an lp appliance would be less power and a lean mixture which might make it run hotter. Check your spark plug after a good run might tell you something. Good luck.

@mtmadigan82 Год назад

This is why I plumbed mine in before the meter. Free gas!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

😂👍🏼

@dmax1234 Год назад

Disregard the garden hose hooked to my neighbors meter 👍. I double clamped both ends.

@mtmadigan82 Год назад

@@dmax1234 🤣

@johnnysweekends Год назад

😂

@jeffhuntzinger2898 Год назад

That tee you are tying into is not there for a consumer hookup. It is there so the utility company can change the meter without the customer being home. A new tee needs to be installed downstream, or ask utility company to install one for you.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Mine is for demonstration only. Switches in about 45 seconds

@julianbrelsford Год назад

Multiple selfish reasons not to be that guy: 1.For safety, gas company might cut your gas service temporarily if there's leaked gas around and they find out. 2. You pay money for the gas you leak out into the air, and it does nothing for you 3. it sucks to get hurt or killed by natural gas or the fire it could cause

@2009dudeman Год назад

Additionally, around here at least if the gas company sees you doing this, they WILL shut off your service and refuse to start it back up again until the entire thing is properly inspected. They will probably also fine you pretty heavily.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

All depends on your municiple facilities policy. Hence have it inspected.

@946towguy2 Год назад

@@johnnysweekends Pulling out PG&E's plug from the test port and hooking up an illegal ball valve will get you shut off for sure.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Already swapped back…👍🏼 only needed for two vids. My NG outlet is plumbed on the opposite side of the house. For a bbq or whatever. And a reconfiguration for something I don’t use is not worth it.

@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 Год назад

Natural gas and propane differ in characteristics, and even short of other dangers, this could harm your propane powered generator. There are whole house generators that are designed to be plumbed into natural gas, and these are fine.

@Capt-Intrepid Месяц назад

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin

@scotts4437 Месяц назад

Also propane and natural gas regulators regulate at different pressures. Installer must make sure the regulator is set to correct setting for either fuel. Orifice sizes are different for propane and natural gas.

@jeffpiatt3879 Год назад

Great info! As America's power grid becomes more unstable due to solar and wind, folks need to know that there are still options to run off of natural gas.

@Michael-Joseph123 Месяц назад

The power grid is not becoming unstable because solar and wind, get a clue, most outages are caused by down transmission lines and transformer failures.

@Threedog1963 7 месяцев назад

I like that detector. Am shopping out an inverter generator that is dual fuel.. gasoline/propane. The tri-fuel generators don't have the capacity I'd like. So, thanks for this video and the links.

@johnnysweekends 7 месяцев назад

I’ll be doing a video on this soon. It has gotten very popular and is consistently getting 4.3-4.6 stars..amzn.to/48DmOwx

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Please If you see people doing this have them stop. The life you save could be your own…👍🏼 A proper Kit can make this possible to run NG with your gas generator. This will include a regulator and proper demand/load regulator as well. Never Run a straight hose!! HAVE A QUESTION AND NEED A FAST RESPONSE…asqme.com/@johnnysweekends If you feel that I helped you maybe consider buying me a drink 👍🏼🙌🏼👊🏼😀 www.buymeacoffee.com/johnny5120J TOPTES GAS Detector Pen: www.amazon.com/dp/B0B62LBZPC?

@carmichaelmoritz8662 Год назад

That regulator you show in the video must be magic lol. most regulators I ever seen only regulate the flow , they do not stop the flow completely no matter what. So even with a regulator when the motor would stop the flow would still continue.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yes a correct regulator like the one shown has a stop in it. Pressure closes it and vacuum from the engine opens it. Then the load block up top acts as a fuel screw.

@carmichaelmoritz8662 Год назад

@@johnnysweekends 👍🤟👌

@matthewgibbs6886 Год назад

if i see someone doing this im going to back away and go get marshmallows

@carmichaelmoritz8662 Год назад

@@matthewgibbs6886 before doing that could you please advise them that what they are doing will void their house insurance if they have any insurance at all.

@LAMB53087 Год назад

These are probably the same people that think they have it "all figured out" and use a generator to back-feed into an outlet to power a house. Using a double male cord.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Lol yup suicide cords are dangerous.

@Glocktard Год назад

I installed a Hutchmountain kit on my Honda EU2200i. It works well on propane and I even ordered the natural gas quick connect fitting. Their kit includes a demand regulator too. All the firings seem of the highest quality, I’ve run the generator for hours now and all is good. Only down fall is it takes more time to hook up and a few more pulls to get it to start.

@Nonplused Год назад

My tri-fuel conversion from US Carburetor came with a big regulator like the one you show so I think I am good. To run it I end up with two regulators, one on the tank like a bbq would have, and then the big one which I assume is low pressure and regulates the fuel to match demand on the generator itself. If I were to hook it to my natural gas, I don't need the tank regulator obviously but would still have the big one on the generator. With this system I don't need to adjust the fuel to match the load it runs wide open and the regulator maintains the correct fuel/air ratio. The fuel also gets inserted into the throttle body, not the air box. There is an insert between the carburetor and the intake which provides the correct Venturi effect.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Correct you have done it right and have the correct kit. I have installed a couple kits now. Well 3. But yes no regulator as that kit acts as the regulator and demand or load regulator. And that kit was originally from US carb…👍🏼

@macthemec 10 месяцев назад

Gas fitter here, the natural gas leak while very unsafe probably isn’t your biggest safety concern but running a propane generator on natural gas is likeley to cause the generator to malfunction and possibly catch fire, NG is 1000BTU/sqft and propane is 2500btu, so the generator is likeley in a run lean condition. If you changed the pressure and orafice in the propane generator to accommodate the natural gas and hooked it up with a bbq box and approved line it should be the same as the propane tank but thats going to cost you more than just running it off a big propane tank.

@johnnysweekends 10 месяцев назад

The load regulator serves that purpose for adjusting the flow. When properly adjusted it should run as normal. You always set rich then lean off a little till it runs correct.

@mumrah73 Год назад

Thank you, first video I actually watched that is undoing this internet hack that is dangerous.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

You’re welcome and yes the other couple vid’s should be taken down. 👍🏼

@vinceparker2888 Год назад

That's why you buy the propane version and change out the orifice for natural gas and keep all the safety features

@vJofsy Год назад

As a distribution side Natural gas worker the best way to test for natural gas leaks not only the monitor/sensit but some good old fashioned soapy water in a spray bottle will find any leak

@johnnysweekends Год назад

I always have a bottle hangin on the ready. Haven’t used it lately with the new pen. It’s cool!

@prestonhanson501 Год назад

I really like the duel fuel generators. Gives you options. Options is what you need when things go to hell

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Exactly, dual fuel always and if ya can tri fuel as well. But once dual fuel the conversion over is easy if you know what you are doing 👍🏼

@kordta Год назад

It's called electric gas valve that cuts the gas flow when generator stops. It can be supplied by the generator outlet voltage circuit. A bypass can be applied just for starting with a spring valve for safety reasons.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

They also have a positive stop type. Positive pressure closed it. And vacuum opens it. That’s the kit you see in the video. Easy

@raitchison Год назад

Interesting, never seen anything like this before. Never really considered running a generator off of natural gas because I live in Southern California and the event that's most likely to lead to an extended power outage is an earthquake, which will of course also interrupt the natural gas supply. In our last major earthquake (1994 "Northridge" earthquake) we lost both power and gas but we got our power back a full day before the gas was working again.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

It’s a bad idea people are doing from another video. But yes using NG for generators is just another source of fuel. Sure here in CA we have several disasters, fires, earthquakes and sure even floods and a tornado that’s small once in a while. It’s just another piece that’s available. 1994 was crazy, same with the Bay Area quake in 1989. We are due…..🫣

@techlord5573 Год назад

I have gas and did not know you can do that if I lost power lol.

@DSNUTS304 Год назад

Spent around 8k with installation for a 16kw generac. Best investment ever 👌.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

On demand unit is nice..👍🏼

@bonehead-lg8dl Год назад

That's my understanding the generator supposed to run off liquid propane. Where you would have a primary regulator say an upside-down grill tank. The generator should have the secondary regulator. Now I may have just learnt something. I didn't know they could run off of natural gas in it's vapor state.

@jed-henrywitkowski6470 Год назад

Thank you! I don't have this type of genny, however I am sure this advice shall be useful later on.

@ocsrc Год назад

I have the regulator off the propane tanks and then a separate regulator on the generator that regulates the flow in and shuts down the flow in the event the engine stops. That's what you need both of those

@johnbelwell2461 Год назад

You can get a dual fuel carburetor for these dirt cheap so if you plan on doing it a lot it doesn't worth the hassle and not the danger, as the engine will work as it should. This works just fine if you are in a real emergency and have it outdoors but you can't regulate the fuel in real time so varrying the load can lead to release unburnt gas and if it backfires it can cause an explosion, the problem is that when you do this it needs supervising and people are turning on things and like to forget about them, just like if a plain and safe propane heater is left out of sight if for whatever reason it loses the flame and has propane filling the room it can lead to an explosion.

@dwmcever Год назад

Natural Gas pretty much powers the Grid. If the Grid goes down Natural Gas soon follows. Same for gasoline and Diesel. The only power not controlled by the Grid is Solar and Wind. A month ago Natural gas pressure in Central Texas cropped dangerously low and the grid nearly failed once again. IT was GREED that caused this not equipment failure.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yea it would depend where the outage is and if it effects the NG company as they normally have back power as well. But all depends, but correct solar and wind are not controlled but even those have limits as well. Especially in the in the winter.

@trxtech3010 Год назад

Good video. I have always wonder that too that if the generator stalls then ghe gass just keeps flowing. Some people lack common sense.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yup that’s why you need regulators.

@UQRXD Год назад

Propane and natural gas. Each fuel requires a different size orifice to work correctly for the carburetor. Same goes for duel fuel heaters and hot water heaters, stoves as well.

@LivingWaterEternal Год назад

Also, it is illegal by code to tap the gas meter on that tee, city inspectors if around will have a cow tapping the plug tee. Great tip and appreciated the video for being safe!!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Mine is already switched back with the plug as it’s a 1 min swap. Now after the meter at the T you are supposed to tap in from the back side of the T, which would require a whole redo of that side. I was only making 3 quick videos and I was done. If I need to use NG I can swap back there for emergency or plug into my NG bbq line but that’s around the other wall. Remember there are homeless people dumping crap in the river and chemicals and more. Me being on one side of the T or the other in a emergency for power, well let’s say I’m sure some understanding could be had. But check your local codes for proper hook up 👍🏼

@billmcmeekin7909 Год назад

A ball valve regulator. What could go wrong, lol. Remember it's only an explosive fuel that will only lift houses of their basements. Tip = Soapy water dribbled over connections will determine leaks by visible bubbles, for leak check.

@Atlanticsoutheasthillbilly Год назад

You need a regulator if incoming pressure is high pressure(2 psi) if not and at low pressure (.5ish psi) if the genny can be used on ng.

@chriswarren5986 Год назад

When it comes to gas or electricity hire a pro always

@gsolo328 Год назад

I've always been told you cannot connect a propane generator using natural gas unless you have a different regulator all together.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Some you can depends on the model. They will come with a external regulator and external load regulator.

@fauxque5057 Год назад

My TriFuel Winco generator has two gas regulators.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

As it should 👍🏼

@j-davis7290 Год назад

As a natural gas utility locator... please do not tap into your natural gas service for a stupid generator, I've seen too many houses explode because of stupid shit like this

@johnnysweekends Год назад

And yet people do it …. No load regulator no nothing.

@jptrade8575 Месяц назад

Yes there are people who will do this. One lives three houses down from me. I told him it's a bad ideal. And he said it works fine.

Год назад

Thing is that generators with a factory fitting for pressurized gaseous fuels should have the regulator built-in and take the whole 4-6bar lpg vapour. Any other improvisation is dangerous but it could save lives equally to taking them.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Some have them built in and some have them on the external hose

@rossbryan6102 Год назад

PINCHING OFF THE FUEL, THEN GETTING A HEAVIER ELECTRIC LOAD, CAN CAUSE A LEAN BURN CONDITION, AND COMBUSTION CHAMBER OVERHEATING AND DETONATION.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

No body likes deto..!

@miekbell162 Год назад

thank you so much ive been doing that for years and never new it was doing that ur truly a hero

@ericwilliams952 Год назад

Never seen anybody hooking up like that either. Nice gas test pin have one order. Thank you.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yea I didn’t either till I saw a couple videos

@gilberthurtado1984 Год назад

When the plumber installed my gas line for generator. He said it's overkill but the city does require it. So I said explain the it's purpose than I was like wow . Installed NOW. Your video just explain why and people should listen.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Proper equipment should be used and not the , it will be fine method.

@maxtheax4615 Год назад

This would be a code violation. The first "TEE" after the gas meter belongs to the gas company for connecting test equipment, and installing a lockout plug in the line. This is not a convinience "tee" to connect appliances. etc.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yea mine was switched for about day while I made a couple vids. And it’s also back with the OE plug.

@CarveLife Месяц назад

I prefer to put my quick connection before the meter.

@johnnysweekends Месяц назад

Yess! 😂

@D_and_L Год назад

People that hook up to the NG or LP like this are the same ones back feeding the generator into the power grid!

@raitshots Год назад

The idea was there a long time ago. But you still have to consider the gas pressure. A minor mistake is dangerous with a gas leak. One more thing. The gas is dry. Lubrication must be ensured in the engine during the combustion process. Otherwise, from the dry gas engine, the compression rings in the block will quickly be damaged and the rolling part bearings will be deformed at a higher temperature. Gasoline or Diesel is a bit more gentle on engines than solvent gases.

@jackgriebel1492 Год назад

What are you talking about? That's only true in a 2 stroke gas engine. All lube is internal on 4 strokes. about half of the forklifts of the world run on LP and there isn't any added lube in those. If anything an LP engine should last longer since there is no risk of cylinder wash from the fuel.

@nevadaxelizabeth Год назад

this video popped up on my feed and to this day i had no idea a gas generator existed. it makes sense because NG and Propane are fuels but never crossed my mind such thing existed, and to think about it...its even better than having a gasoline one because the gasoline goes bad on storage but gas gets supplied to your house. i added one to my list of things i need to buy just in case.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Of buying a generator but a dual fuel unit. When the carb has issues more then likely the propane will still work no problem

@dankdreamz Год назад

What a great suggestion from RU-vid's algorithm. Hopefully it promotes it two more people

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Awesome glad you liked 😁👍🏼

@Skunked68 Год назад

Hello. I’ve never been sure what all a “regulator” does. At prior place, had propane furnace, heater in garage and a fireplace, basically there were regulators everywhere. I surmise those regulated the gas pressure to a rather constant level as time and gas level in tank and temperatures vary. So, if one is installed on a generator and generator stops, the regulator ALSO automatically shuts off gas flow ?? If you wish to give tutorial on regulators, I’d certainly enjoy learning more on that topic. Will budget in a DC inverter sometime before much longer, just for the necessary few things as emergency backup. Maybe I’ll just stick with propane and try to find bigger than 15 lb tanks. 20 maybe is around somewhere. We are not RV-ers to know more on propane tank sizes, refilling, etc. I do know where to just swap out the gas grill sized tanks, as is common. Realistically right here, the amount of time power is off is very little, swapping out 15 lb sized tanks for a day or two while off isn’t a terribly big hassle. 8+ hours power off is pretty rare. Just several 15 lb tanks should handle 99% of the time needed. But car gas, nope, no more, did that 20 years country life. Hassle. It’s kind of fun hearing a generator hum away when needed, tho, and enjoy the few things on truly necessary. I also will prioritize an enclosed unit for quiet as it runs in backyard. Not only for the one neighbor, but no sense advertising further away for a potential thief to get an idea of easy pickings.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

I could go over some basics on regulators and dual fuel generators soon. 👍🏼

@CajunCoding Год назад

Nice tip on that Gas Pen... I've never seen one of those before, but it's in my Amazon cart now!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Thank you, It’s goes everywhere in the Rv! 😀👍🏼

@cyrilharris Месяц назад

Thanks well presented and safety is most important

@jackjumperx4441 Год назад

There are replacement carburetors with the regulator for most gas engines

@Mr_Meowingtons Год назад

Yeah I put together a regulator with a kill solenoid so if it dies. It will lose the 12v and the solenoid will deenergize and cut the flow of gas. It even works if it stalls out on the propane.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Well that’s cool. Now that I think about I would imagine that’s a pretty easy setup..👍🏼

@Mr_Meowingtons Год назад

@JOHNNY'S WEEKENDS You do have to prime the system with a button as you start it. So you do need a working 12v starter battery. "2 blocking diodes and a normally open push button," and it was working. Need the diods so 12v battery and charging would not back feed.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Ahh, nice. Well good job on that set up

@jonathangallant-mills6434 Год назад

First time I hear of anything like gas generators, etc but I will not ever be that guy. I promise.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Good maybe those other videos will go away that are promoting it. Lol

@RhythmGamer 25 дней назад

I had no clue people are doing this, this is so insane

@SaabAholic Год назад

Boy howdy! I love propane and propane accessories! 🤠👍. Good heads up!

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Propane Bobby…😂

@tangledline Год назад

I saw a "don't ever do this" video where this guy was putting a digital device up to a gas leak....LOLOL. Just busting balls...

@Stormin505 Год назад

I have this same Generator getting ready to hookup to LPG, I didn't know this so I will order a Regulator.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

It doesn’t need one for lpg only NG. It already comes with the correct set up for Lpg

@clydeusa6596 Год назад

Hope everyone watches this. People do stupid things and hurt themselves and others. Good video.

@j.smithakagenericguy8510 Год назад

I have worked for Honeywell/American Meter which produces residential and commercial gas meters and regulators. And let me say that you are %100 without a doubt correct. People if you are doing this without a proper regulator you are creating any number of horrible outcomes from and instant minor explosion in an outside space catching leaves and debris on fire to enough gas build up exploding a garage, basement, house to grenading the generator with backed up gas. Every now and then at work we get to see possible product failure videos and let me tell you the outcome is NOT pretty. Total loss of property. And if your utility company say like Pacific Gas and Electric catches you doing this I'm going to throw out there that they will not be happy. One way valves and proper regulators are of the utmost importance.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Exactly, I can’t believe there are still a couple videos where people are doing this dangerous diy. Thanks for stopping by and commenting your experience 😀👍🏼

@mikeprice1816 Год назад

If it was me I would run a line into the house were I would put the throttle on the arm of my recliner and control it from there . Lmao

@johnnysweekends Год назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@medwardl Год назад

I always will buy a conversion kit to run it on NG

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Nice !!

@ericschepers9317 Год назад

It's also a small amount of pressure in that ng line...7 to 14w.c. aka 1/4 to 1/8th psi

@phenry5083 Год назад

yeah...no. I've never seen of heard of anyone doing it this way.

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Yea you should see the couple videos promoting it….😕

@markcollins457 Год назад

This video prays on scare tactics. You are correct this installation is dead wrong. But when you buy a generator you can usually purchase a Natural or propane regulator kit or components .

@johnnysweekends Год назад

Correct there are correct kits to buy and which you should! But there are a couple vids out there showing people sticking a hose in the airbox and that’s it!! But the correct stuff and be done with it.