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Nautitech 46 Open review after one week test sail in Croatia 

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Is this our boat for our Circumnavigation in 2 years?
We sailed the Nautitech 46 Open for one week in Croatia in different conditions and found much light but also lots of shadows (and water).
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Does anyone have a Outremer 49/51 or Neel 51 available for one or two weeks of tests for me? Or do you have any other recommendations for a fast family cruiser to sail around the world?
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26 авг 2024

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@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
Other obsevations, not mentioned in the video: -aft cleats are installed vertical, which makes line handling more challenging -cleats could be one size bigger at least -in-built handrails in the coachroof can be used to catch rain water -line handling through many blocks increases friction, so we hoisted the main sail from the mast -Chart plotters from B&G got extremely hot (charter manager said, this only happens, when 2 repeaters to the nain unit are used) -no password for the B&G, so I could not connect my other NMEA-2000 devices for more testing -dinghy was great, could carry the whole crew of 9 easily -cockpit has enclosures, which even extends saloon -saloon windows are sloped, so they are really confortable to lean at, when sitting on foredeck (which again makes them dirty and decreases visibility from the helm) -engine compartments are huge and well accessible -aft cabins have bigger beds then stern cabins, but stern cabins have much more cabinets available. -Reportedly the matraces were really confortable (i slept in cockpit) -cabin and head doors can fall into lock position, so there is a risk to lock you out. (But can re-enter through the walk-through-shower -my wife got less sea sick than on the Neel, but on the Neel we also had much more wind and waves. -when engins idle and engaged, they already have substantial thrust, so be careful in the marina -tacking was surprisingly easy. Just Autopilot in wind control +/-90° and wait. Boat went through the wind really well. Then re-tune to ca. 38° wind angle which makes ca. 45° effective. When tacking against the wind in tight areas, we left traveller in middle position, self tacking jib also helped. -single handed sailing is easy, even docking, especially sidewise from starboard -sail preparations are really easy on the huge and flat coachroof and with the boom on or even below waist hight -reefing was really easy with single reefing lines to the cockpit. Reefed under sails without engine smoothly -everywhee more than enough headroom for myself (1.79m, 5'11) -winch positions are great and offer multi-usage e.g. for lifting dinghi, pulling shore lines, etc. Only main halyard winch is powered, but anyhow we always operate manual. (I want to feel the resistance in order not to break anything and after all, sailing is a sport) -cockpit protection is just great, always slept there, even in rain and wind. -gas bottles are below cockpit bench and hard to reach to cut off gas supply after cooking -2nd hand yachts available for between €550k and €900k -Pitter Yachting did a great job, happy with especially their staff at site (may I tell your name here?) -Coratia seems to be a big rip off to me: mooring at national parks €85+ per night, many small national parks next to each other, so a 3 day ticket was only valid in a small area. Also almost no sea-life or land life, for what I would call it a national park. Marinas are freakingly expensive, as I investigated €190 for one night in an ACI Marina for our Yacht, although not much infrastructure. Limited anchorages, mainly expensive moorings. Also we had to pay tourist tax, etc. Biggest pros: lots of space and visibility from everywhere (but the helm) Biggest cons: poor visibility from helm, speed below expectations, quality below expectations (sealings, aft bulkhead, wall and ceiling panels comming off) Verdict: We keep on searching! 😜
@navalgazingatcampdavid
@navalgazingatcampdavid Год назад
Fantastic! Thanks for the feedback!
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
@@navalgazingatcampdavid i think you would be mostly interested in the Neel 45 review that I made one year ago! I really love that boat! This year we will be monohull sailing but also a Catana Bali 4.6 (i know no performance yacht, but we are 12 people this time and the Neel 52 is not available yet! ;-)
@mattclark6482
@mattclark6482 6 месяцев назад
@@janwantstosail I did watch that one, another excellent video. I agree I need to consider the Neel as well.
@manfredgrobel2068
@manfredgrobel2068 2 месяца назад
I sticked a Z-Profile over the little aft window and no more water came in from above unless rain came from behind in the harbor.
@navalgazingatcampdavid
@navalgazingatcampdavid Год назад
Fantastic channel Jan! Love it!
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
Thanks a lot! Great to connect! Curious about your future videos and also about your choice!
@navalgazingatcampdavid
@navalgazingatcampdavid Год назад
@@janwantstosail Honestly, I’m still learning so much and my choice seems to change monthly. The audience teaches me so much. I have the benefit of so many deeply experienced sailors, many of whom have differing opinions. As a result I get a well rounded perspective…but it shifts. Lol.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
@@navalgazingatcampdavid well, I charter yachts every year, also I sometimes work as sailing instructor for the german coastal skipper license. My thoughts also often change. Important is to know, what your NoGos are and also what you really need. From the yachts that you presented in the Neel 52 video, all are a good choice in my eyes, every one with pros and cons though, but none would be a dealbreaker fo me. It always is a compromise. And do never listen to people, who have never sailed on those yachts! Every time before charter, I read and watch every review, but real life is different. Sail yourself for a few days, if possible!
@kirk9671
@kirk9671 Год назад
When I crossed the atlantic in an open 46 - I only sat at the helm for fun.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
And how was it? Could you recommend the Nautitech 46? Any issues? We had some, as discussed in the video: leakages through sealant at the windows, broken bulkhead stb aft,..
@kirk9671
@kirk9671 Год назад
@@janwantstosail Mine is new and has a stiffer hull and different salon layout. I don't have those leaks. I had two batches reseated under warranty. I have one more leak in am looking for. I still have another year of warranty. Sadly, I think finding install errors is normal for all boats.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
@Kirk, thanks a lot for the quick reply! Install errors is normal, the broken sealants also were no showstoppers. Only the bulkhead was a red flag. During the whole trip I kindof felt that something was odd and not right. We reefed early and I did not feel so good, but couldnt name it until we saw the broken bulkhead back in the marina. I wish and hope that you will be fine with your yacht though. The Nautitech has many pros though! Which layout did you have? Pantry to the aft on port?
@kirk9671
@kirk9671 Год назад
@@janwantstosail They redesigned the bulkheads on the newer version. I got mine from horizon yacht charters in bvi. I picked it up in France.
@manfredgrobel2068
@manfredgrobel2068 2 месяца назад
Strange, same boat both engines 2500 RpM give me 10+ kt. Might depend on the centent of the water and fuel tank.
@mattclark6482
@mattclark6482 6 месяцев назад
Hey Jan, one of my favorite catamarans is the Catana 50 footers (not Bali), but like this Nautitech they also have the exposed exterior dual helms which kinda kills the whole boat for me. Questions 1) One of my biggest problems is fear of someone being on a night watch and falling off the boat from the helm in those precarious positions. Do you think that's a realistic fear or am I making a mountain out of a mole hill? 2) Do you perceive any way to build durable Bimini that might make the helms more bearable? It seems like the potential for interference with sheets is pretty high unless you keep it simple (as in this Nautitech). Thanks
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 6 месяцев назад
Hey Matt, Thanks for your comment! To your questions: 1.) I totally share your fear and this is actually also one downside of those aft helms. (No, you don't make a mountain out of a mole hill in my eyes) I would feel much more comfortable with more boat behind me and a more protective backrest/structure, not with flimsy reiling lines, which even cover quite some distance. You feel safe towards the front, but don't look back, when big waves are rolling in! ;-) Also the movements at the aft tip of the boat are more intense then e.g. on a central helm. When discussing this topic with Excess dealers (They also have aft helms), they stated: "It is just like on normal monohulls" . May be true, but for ocean crossings on a mono, I also would prefer a center cockpit over those aft helms. The main advantage with aft helms is in my eyes, that you can see the whole crew at any time as long as they are not down in the hulls and docking can't be any easier. Yes, can see sails better and you have a better feel for the rudder, but therefore part of the view is blocked by the superstructure. 2.) Well, when sailing long distances, the autohelm does 95% of the steering (in normal situations). so you can be out of the elements in "normal" conditions anyhow. In the rain I sometimes steered from inside with the remote control. The aft helms are far apart, so you just sit on the side, where you get the shadow from the Main or from the roof. Against rain, there is no much protection with those tiny umbrellas and I don't see, how you could properly enclosure them without sacrificing boat handling. I would not want to be there in a storm, when big waves are running in though. I am still puzzled, which yacht we shall go for. Time is ticking,..
@mattclark6482
@mattclark6482 6 месяцев назад
@@janwantstosail Thank Jan, I really appreciate your thoughts, The only boat that checks all my boxes is the Catana 50 OC. It's a performance boat with a more interior helm and yet relatively comfortable. The problem is there are only like 5 of those in existence and so you're pretty much buying one new and I would rather not be the guy absorbing the steep initial depreciation of a new boat. I will probably end up settling for a less performance based boat. Thanks Again
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 6 месяцев назад
Hey@@mattclark6482 You are welcome! The Catana OC 50, you mean the new one (with garage door and half elevated helm) or the older one with the helm aft? For me it is the Neel 51 ticks all boxes, but she is currently out of my range 😞. The runner up for me is the Outremer 49, which could get into my budget range, but currently noone is for sale (If anyone wants to sell an Outremer 49, please contact me!!!. ) For pure sailing sensation, the Neel 45 was the best so far, but my wife doesn't like it and I agree, it is quite mimimalistic,... Either way, a yacht is always a compromise. I always wanted to check a Catana 47, but also here I had the concerns with the helm aft. Also with remaining budget constraints, the boats also get less performance based for me.
@mattclark6482
@mattclark6482 6 месяцев назад
@@janwantstosail Sorry, I'm responding in the wrong place. I was referring to the Catana 50 OC (Ocean class). I don't think it has a garage door (more of a big sliding door), but yes it has a more Outremer like interior helm. Outremer is certainly the boat that everyone wants, they just seem cramped to me. I think your Neel review was excellent and I agree I need to give that more thought.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 6 месяцев назад
@@mattclark6482 please wait with offers until I got the go-/no-Go from my wife! ;-) We want to buy a yacht within the next 5 months. If you wait till May 2026, you could buy our boat then!
@marcbachman5574
@marcbachman5574 Год назад
Your sailing performance was lacking because you needed the code zero, Genoa, or screacher. The main and self tacking Jib is only good in 20 knots of wind.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
You are right. I always ask for more sails, but usually my requests get refused, although I offer to pay for them.
@ExAfricaNovi
@ExAfricaNovi Год назад
Thanks a lot for the objective an valuable assessment! One thing I keep wondering with regards to catamarans is the size of the holding tank. I cant imagine voiding them in an anchor bay but I also would think it would make sense to be able to stay for a few days at the same place before leaving for the sole purpose of voiding the black water tank. So my question would be, how large are the holding tanks on this boat, how many grown ups and children were there and how long did they last until they were full?
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
Hey Steffen, we were out on the open sea every day, so we could not check that. But I think, the tanks have a reasonable size. Can look up the sheets and compare them to other known yachts too. Anyhow, where we plan to go, the holding tank will not be critical. In the Baltic sea, this is a serious topic though.
@ExAfricaNovi
@ExAfricaNovi Год назад
@@janwantstosail Thanks! Do you have an estimate, though, how much holding tank volume per person per day is required?
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
@@ExAfricaNovi uh, nope, sorry. I also was never in the situation, that the holding tank was full. If I would have to guess, I would say, ca 2-4 liters per person per day. I just checked, The Neel 45 has 50l so with 2 people it should be fine for a week. With 10 people and lots of good food and drinks, one day would be the limit, but as said, I never experienced that.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
Ah, the Nautitech 46 has 2*60l=120l. Should last some time then.
@ExAfricaNovi
@ExAfricaNovi Год назад
Thank you!!
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 2 года назад
Feel free to comment and please subscribe for more boat tests! Does anyone have a Neel 51, Outremer 49/51 or other fast cruising cats/tris available which we could charter for tests? We are searching for a cruising cat to sail around the world starting in November 2024. If possible between 3 and 10 years old, 4 double cabins, 44 to 55 feet, bluewater capable. Also sorry for not putting in engine bay videos, I unfortunately hat the phone on picture settings when getting in and did not start the video recording. More videos to come with other yachts, so subscribe to stay tuned
@Winbasis-Sail
@Winbasis-Sail 2 года назад
Dear Jan, I have appreciated the test of this cat and more of this the Neel 45 (I wouldl like to buy a N45 if available at a good price).From what I see in your video you have reach, roughly speaking, half the speed of real wind in term of GPS speed of Nautitech 46 Open; it is correct? Is this spoeed level get with code-0 or a gennaker or only with white sails? Thanks in advance for your reply!
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 2 года назад
@@Winbasis-Sail thanks a lot for the feedback! We only had both boats with the white and previously rigged sails. I opted for the Code-0 for the Neel but they refused to give it to me. Generally I feel, the Neel picked up speed with much more ease, so I also would feel more confident to sail the Neel with a Code 0 or Gennaker, since increasing wind speeds transform into boat speed immediately and I felt less pulling on the rig therefore. The Neel sailed with 90% wind speed where the Nautitech had ca. 50% wind speed. So the Neel was almost twice as fast. But also th Neel had two head sails, which also made adjustments easier. One side-note: i was not allowed to adjust the daggerboard, which was in a middle position with thr Neel so we did not reach full tagging or downwind performance. I would love to test much more! For sailing, the Neel is the absolute highlight, for space thr Nautitech offers much more.
@Winbasis-Sail
@Winbasis-Sail Год назад
@@janwantstosail Thanks! I suppose it was like that! In my cat after more than a year of tuning, I have reach a speed (SOG) of 70% of TWS and I was satisfy with that. But the impressive performance of Neel 45 takes my heart away! Particularly for the Neel kind of sailing, tha should be very smooth. Do you think that owner of Mizar will in next future want to sell his tri? I would like to make an offer to him. And moreover and most important, after a week with Mizar, you would buy it for yourself if it would be possible? I mean in your opinion is Mizar a good Neel 45? for what you have test and touch during your test?
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
Hey @WINDEX, you have a FP Lipari 41? 70% of TWS is really good then! I have no idea, if the Mizar owner wants to sell, but I think ca. 50 Neel 45 were produced, so there always should be some on the market available. The Neel 45 (also Mizar) would be a great option for me, only my wife opposes there. She wants more space and nicer woodwork. My favourite still is the Neel 51, only it might blow our budget. I may take a second view on the Neel 47 next year and then make an in depth video again. Is there a way with RU-vid to send direct messages? I could forward the contact to the Mizar owner then.
@Winbasis-Sail
@Winbasis-Sail Год назад
@@janwantstosail Hello and thanks. it should be great if you can let me in touch with the owner of that Neel 45 Mizar... half a world is to sell and the other is to buy, may be it should be a dial for each other! from Michele - ITALY (I try to give you my contact but it seems impossible here....)
@manfredgrobel2068
@manfredgrobel2068 2 месяца назад
Something wrong. I habe the same boat and with 2 engines at 2500 RpM. I make 9 kt. One engine 2300 gives 6,5 kt. Brige deck is much higher than most of the other catamarans.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 2 месяца назад
Hey Manfred, vielen Dank für den Kommentar! Is this yacht not available with different engine options and different props? I should have chhecked the setup on this yacht. And you are probably right, I did not encounter any bridge deck slapping, but we also didnt face high seas. Usually had caln waters.
@manfredgrobel2068
@manfredgrobel2068 2 месяца назад
@@janwantstosail I have 50 hp and folding prop.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 2 месяца назад
@@manfredgrobel2068 we were quite loaded with 10 people and most time had full water tanks and full fuel tanks, but I cant imagine, this is the reason. The hull was ok (not really clean, but also no barnackles),.. good question,..
@manfredgrobel2068
@manfredgrobel2068 2 месяца назад
@@janwantstosail OK, I am just with my wife on board and I do not carry more water or fuel as necessary. So weight explains nearly all.
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail 2 месяца назад
Yes, makes sense. How is your overall satisfaction with the yacht? You agree to my observations? How is the build quality of your yacht? Cheers and thanks a lot!
@davidwebber6956
@davidwebber6956 Год назад
TERRIBLE BUILD QUALITY. !! very expensive boats as well and leaking after 4 years and broken bulk heads !!!
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
At the BOOT 2023 in Düsseldorf I had a discussion with the sales representative for Nautitech and I was not the only one reporting the leakages. Hope, they find a sustainable solution for it. The bulkhead issue was unique (and desastrous) though. We need more reviews and comments to push the manufacturers to deliver a good quality. Attention helps for sure! Also he was happy to hear my other thoughts and the potential for improvement. The concept is not bad though in my eyes.
@davidwebber6956
@davidwebber6956 Год назад
The leaking roof seems just the start ! After the fuel tank joke you wonder what else is wrong . I was going to but a new 44 but it seems either save some money and get the new leopard 42 or go big and look at a Balance or MC .
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
@@davidwebber6956 if money was no option, the choice would be much easier I would say. With our budget we still have to compromise unfortunately. As a kid I was sailing boat races and I simply dont like condomarans, which limits the choice even further. But I am an engineer myself, so there are many things I can fix or rebuild myself. So the boat must have a solid structure/good design and I can do lots of customization then. With unlimited budget I probably would go for an HH 55 or a Balance 526 ot maybe an Outremer 55. With a little more budget probably a Balance 482 or Seawind 1470. Only I still feel intreagued by the Neels, which still offer lots of bang for the buck.
@davidwebber6956
@davidwebber6956 Год назад
Jan. I'm on a very limited budget so will probably land up with a 40 foot FP and enjoy the extra time sailing !
@janwantstosail
@janwantstosail Год назад
@@davidwebber6956 We may charter an FP 45 this year to check that yacht out. Many of them are on sale for more or less affordable prices. Our budget is not finally fixed yet, but the boat must safely carry 4-8 people around the world (and offer some sailing fun). Either way, the target is to start sailing and we still have 18 months to find the right boat for us! :⁠-⁠)
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