Navy’s Biggest Mistake - Cancelling The Martin P6M SeaMaster

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In the 1950s, the United States Navy built a strategic bomber flying boat, with some pretty incredible features.
The Martin P6M SeaMaster was primarily touted as a high speed mine-layer. Critically, it was also to serve as a strategic nuclear weapon delivery system for the Navy, at a time when the Soviet Union and its aviation projects were freaking out the U.S. more than ever.
Yet the Martin P6M SeaMaster, which was six months from entering service, never actually did.
Why is that? Why was such a highly-touted flying boat plane finally axed by the Pentagon in August of 1959?
After all, this was hardly a project stuck in its design phase or development hell. It had test runs, and even a fleet of 12 were built.
Were the test runs perhaps part of the problem?
This is the lost legacy of the last true flying boat, the Martin P6M SeaMaster
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By the early 1950s, the U.S. Navy was decidedly annoyed and a little alarmed at how the U.S. Air Force had stolen the march in post-war aircraft development and production.
It especially lagged the Air Force in terms of strategic bombing duties in the event of long-range strikes on the Soviet Union.
And so the Navy devised a plan to strike back at the Air Force’s dominance in bomber aviation with what the Navy dubbed its Seaplane Striking Force or SSF:
This force was to comprise jet-powered flying boats capable of long-range strategic nuclear attacks, as well as conventional bombing, mine-laying and reconnaissance flights.
The Navy was convinced that the use of large seaplanes would be excellent for strategic bombing missions,
given that they would free up U.S. forces from airfields that had fixed runways that could be easily targeted by enemy strikes.
Also, it was believed that offshore SeaMasters would be capable of flying far enough to strike virtually every important target within the entire Soviet Union, although many analysts dismissed these claims as wishful thinking.
The Martin P6M SeaMaster was to be built by the Glenn L. Martin Company, the predecessor to what is today Lockheed Martin.
The Martin design was chosen over the prototype submitted by Convair as a centrepiece of the Navy’s big, bold plan.
The Navy was especially optimistic of the plane’s capabilities to lay mines from the air, with much excitement about how the plane could lay scores of mines in the Black Sea, right on the doorstep of the Soviet Union.
The Navy touted the Seamaster as being an integral part of its new-fangled “anti-submarine warfare system”.
This is what they came up with.

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@FoundAndExplained 2 года назад

@Catofbaskerville 2 года назад

Love the new animations just epic

@bennylofgren3208 2 года назад

Hello mr Found And Explained. I have a few bits of hopefully constructive criticism for you, to ponder for future videos: - When talking about "Probe and drogue" aerial refueling, the word drogue is not pronounced like "rouge" but rather like "vogue". - When talking about the various types of ordnance with the "Mk" designation, for example the Mk 80 series general purpose free fall bombs, the abbreviation "Mk" stands for "Mark". So, the Mk 82 for example is always *pronounced* "Mark 82". Also, the designation is written "Mk", not "MK". - When doing unit conversion (which is good practice btw, thank you!), try to round off the converted number. For example, 1000 miles corresponds to about 1609 km, but don't say or write that - round it down to 1600 km. That is what we would say in practice, and you can bet that the 1000 miles figure in itself is also a nicely rounded number to begin with. - Finally, I note that you are using some footage with blurred-out logos that belong to other channels. I recognize some of the footage as coming originally from the TV documentary series Great Planes, but they have surely obtained it in original from Martin or Lockheed. You could probably do that too, either at no cost or with a small handling fee. I think most large manufacturers have a historical archive section that can serve the needs of press and documentary makers. Other than these really minor observations, I just want to thank you for your great work digging up and presenting unusual and unknown aircraft from history!

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@ccllvn 2 года назад

@@bennylofgren3208 I hope he sees this, I agree on the part with the blurred out watermarks

@hitvids920 2 года назад

You can remove this now

@MrBrucetho 2 года назад

In 1955 I graduated from UCONN School of Engineering and joined the Glenn L Martin company. My first assignment at GLM was the power plant engineering group on the P6M. I participated in the redesign of the engines to correct the problem of excessive temperature on the hull of the ship.

@seansky2721 2 года назад

Those must have been fascinating days to be in aviation. As a much younger child, I imagined the surprise felt by our opponents when a formation of SeaMasters arrived over their high value assets, escorted by a flock of Seadart fighters. "GAFHO!"

@bradhaughton6698 2 года назад

What if we built a same aircraft today would it be any better with current technology

@fdangleshadang-a-lang7149 2 года назад

That’s so awesome. My dream job!

@puzz8930 2 года назад

Respect

@Sacred_l0g1x 2 года назад

Commie has this sort of type tho it didn't really fly high do you know it sir the ground effect kaspian sea monster -master- 😂

@Nafeels 2 года назад

Meanwhile in the Soviet Union the Russians were testing similar concepts of flying boats with wing-mounted turbojets, which was handled by the Beriev bureau design. Imagine my shock a few years ago when I found out that there wasn't a single surviving P6M being displayed in an aviation museum, but the Beriev ones not only did but also flew regularly to this day in air shows and fire extinguishing missions. Today I found out that the P6M actually entered production as opposed to a shitton of other experimental post-war and cold war aircrafts, which makes it even sadder. This was, after all meant to be the Navy's B-52. Overall, thanks for providing yet another documentary of this fantastic aircraft!

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@josmit2945 2 года назад

Look up the Ekranoplan.

@Nafeels 2 года назад

@@josmit2945 I’m aware of its existence. However, the ekranoplan operated on a completely different aerodynamic concept called the ground effect. While something like the Caspian Sea Monster is a force to be reckoned with, I’m more attracted to the 60’s batshit ideas of amphibious aircraft design like the Sea Dart, the ONLY supersonic seaplane ever built. The Cold War was just two rich and powerful countries having a dick-measuring contest, and I love following every single development that came from it.

@deanmurphy1240 2 года назад

I think the p6m predates all the Beriev aircraft

@10gamer64 2 года назад

Though most designs built by beriev around the time of the P6M also do not survive, such as the Бе-10

@kstricl 2 года назад

Such a shame that this didn't succeed. These would have been great for long range SAR missions, and would have been easy to modify for fire fighting. I could even see these being used for jobs such as hurricane relief around coastal areas.

@robertharper3754 2 года назад

There are many possibilities with sea planes, resupply small outposts on small islands, resupply a modern version of a PT boat, mine laying, sub hunting, medivacs, ect. Along with many civil uses. It's a shame that there are so many closed minded people in the pentagon.

@gelinrefira 2 года назад

@@robertharper3754 That is all true but they are all niche applications that does not have the numbers to justify a full production. Most of the applications are done by modified versions of existing platforms, or other types of vehicles, that have been built and sold in large numbers. I can totally see this as a sub hunter too, but even the USN's P-8 is a modified version of the 737. Fire-fighting is usually modified version of civilian jetliners. Mine warfare and patrolling still done by existing small ships, medivacs by helos, etc etc. It is a shame we don't see flying boats used in large numbers anymore but it is just that everything they can do, something else has already done so either cheaper or simply existing first.

@VuLamDang 2 года назад

the more you think about it the more sea planes and ekranoplanes make sense. 3/4 of the world is covered in water, and half of its population located near a coast. A port can serve many different type of vehicle with wide range of speed (ships - slow, hydroplane - pretty fast, ekranoplanes - really fast, this beast - superfast) while an airport is costly and serve only airplanes. Furthermore as climate changing and sea level rising, infrastructure is gonna be crumbling down, and seaplanes don't need too much of that. Dig a canal 50m wide by 1000m long and you got yourself a landing strip for something more versatile than airplane and more efficient than helicopter

@williamt.sherman9841 2 года назад

Its extremally important in a major war against a modern nation. Any major Country has thousands of Cruise missiles and Short Range Ballistic missiles that can destroy or put out of action Airforce bases. Sea planes allow you to still move supplies and troops without using airfields.

@JoeyD_NYC 2 года назад

it didnt get built because the US military woke up and realized maybe its not a good idea to fly around a nuclear reactor that at any point can crash into the water and irradiate an entire ocean or state...

@adisura9904 2 года назад

Some books have such amazing concepts. I don't quite remember the year of publicity bit id guess they came out in 70s, such big plans people had for aviation.

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@luckystranger4312 2 года назад

And now we have the technology to actually make some of them work.

@RedWolf777SG 2 года назад

The SeaMaster has got to be one of the most good looking seaplanes, that never went into mass production in US aviation history.

@marsaustralis6881 2 года назад

Personally, revisiting this concept would be ideal for Japan, the US Navy, and the US Marine Corp, using modern technologies to improve upon it further. The JSDF and USN/USMC could easily use it for rapid redeployment across various island chains at low altitude in a transport role, and also quite useful as a sea-variant of the P-8 and theoretical bomber-fied versions of the P-8, deploying mines, drones, and bombs/torps. For Japan specifically, a modern version would be a more powerful successor to their ShinMaywa US-2 and a complement to their P-1. In the civilian role, it would make a great, modern fire-fighting and disaster relief aircraft as long as water was nearby.

@WAL_DC-6B 2 года назад

That "versatility" of the SeaMaster disappeared in heavy seas. As good looking as the P6M was, the U.S. Navy's Poseidon submarines were military funds better spent for the ability to deliver nuclear weapons (missiles).

@billstrossman1134 2 года назад

Yes[ open sea landings can be tricky.

@stefanguels 2 года назад

On the other hand the example of the B-52 shows that a bomber that was originally envisioned as a nuclear delivery system is a valuable addition to the capabilities even *50* years after the nuclear mission was cancelled . That's quite some return on investment. Look at the P6M as a seagoing B-52, independent of land air bases or aircraft carriers. It would have been quite useful in the Gulf Wars and probably still today would serve very well in an ASW role with some technology updates.

@Gustav_Kuriga 2 года назад

@@stefanguels The B-52 is only able to do so in environments that have zero enemy air capability.

@nick4506 2 года назад

@@stefanguels b52 stuck around because it's big, it's known as a "dumptruck" for bombs. this p6m is tiny in comparison, too small for maritime patrol. and imagine trying to load that thing up while it's bobbing in the waves. thing is useless.

@rexringtail471 2 года назад

@@nick4506 Not really. Even assuming it was never re-engineed it could still lay 15 2k class Captor or Quickstrike mines during a 600 kt attack run at very, very low altitude. That's a capability the B-52 can't even come close to matching and is extremely relevant in any kind of naval conflict. It's not a maritime patrol aircraft-- it's a maritime strike aircraft and in a real peer conflict would be much more survivable than the B-52 due to it's low-level, high speed attack profile. As for it being useless in high seas, I think it would be a useless pilot who did not check the WX reports on his landing area, and alternate landing area before he took off, making that extremely easily avoidable.

@DarqeDestroyer 2 года назад

1:13 *Found And Explained:* "The last true flying boat, the Martin P6M Seamaster." *Beriev Be-200:* "Am I a joke to you?"

@robertalaverdov8147 2 года назад

Pfft, America is on a different planet. Don't you know that?

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@racketman2u 2 года назад

@@irasingh2498 and you can piss off with your caps lock.

@suzukirider9030 2 года назад

I'm not sure how the U.S. Navy would feel about putting Beriev Be-200 into service though...

@alonespirit9923 2 года назад

Beriev's own website says the Be-200 is an amphibian with built-in wheels, "Be-200 amphibious aircraft designing is based on FAR-25 requirements that will allow to facilitate the certification in compliance with FAA and JAA requirements. On December 27, 2000 the Be-200 amphibious aircraft obtained the tpye noise certificate № СШ 118-Бе-200." & my understanding of the Seamaster is that it did not have its own wheels & relied on beaching gear. So, I expect what the narrator means with, "01:12 this is the lost legacy of the last true flying boat the martin p6m seamaster", is that Seamaster was the last "true boat" airplane where you either operated from water or you didn't operate.

@deanmurphy1240 2 года назад

My father Cmdr William L. Murphy ,USNTPS class 20, was an assigned flight test pilot on this project. He did write an article for Naval Aviation News about his experience. Offhand I don't remember which issue( mid/late 1980s) regardless I love this plane always have , I grew up with one of the factory gift scale models given out ! Funny note : while I'd play with that my uncle would regale me with stories of the Convair ' Sea Dart' and how truly stunning that was just to see on the bay! Video on that one next,right?

@CaesarInVa 2 года назад

Such a beautiful airplane. Sleek, fast, maneuverable and technologically innovative, the Seamaster was a beautiful plane. My father was a career naval aviator who started his aviation career in '42. In the early 50's, Dad was assigned to the Navy's Bureau of Aeronautics (now NavAir) and seconded to the P6M program. In appreciation for his work on the project, the Martin engineers gave my dad a souvenir that everyone working on the program wore: a tie-clasp of a P6M in silhouette. Next to his Annapolis class-ring, I think it fair to say that the tie-clasp was my father's next-most dearest position. On December 7, 1955, the first prototype crashed in the Chessie Bay (Martin's facilities were on the Bay just outside of Baltimore). Dad was supposed to be on that flight but was bumped by someone more senior. Now, the curious thing is, on December 7th, 1941, my Dad was serving as a gunnery officer on a light cruiser (the Phoenix, CL-46), which was moored at buoy C-5....in Pearl Harbor...about 1000 yards astern of the Arizona. Depending on how you look at it, that's two close calls my Dad had on two different December 7ths. Talk about leading a charmed life. Anyway, back to the tie-tack...I inherited it from my father when he died and now it sits with his sword, wings and flight jacket on display in my den.

@alanfitzgeraldsr2201 Год назад

My father worked at Martin's until the project was canceled. I lived in middle River for years and could walk down the ramp they launched the seaplanes from . Dark head cove,even swam there. It froze over one winter so thick that I drove my 67 Belvedere on it and years later took my children to walk on the ice.

@georgemacdonell2341 Месяц назад

Service guy's of that time were heroes. Unfortunately the Phoenix wasn't a lucky ship in the Falklands.

@Abdullah-mn6sw 2 года назад

That animation is really satisfying, I could watch that aircraft fly in the rain for hours.

@FoundAndExplained 2 года назад

you aint seen nothing yet! wait till my project this week !

@jeanbonnefoy1377 2 года назад

The more I watch your channel, the more I long for collection of those planes as 1/72 or 1/200 scale models (or even better, model kits) as most of them are really amazing pieces of work - like e.g. this awesome Martin seaplane. Have you entertained that idea? After all, all those CGI reproductions are top-notch and might be used as templates for 3d reproductions, wouldn't they?🤔In which case, definitely count me in as a prospective buyer/collector👍

@FoundAndExplained 2 года назад

I’ll reach out to some people

@tomt373 2 года назад

What about the Atlantis Models re-release of the old Revell kit in 1/136 scale? They have it in stock for sale right now.

@sw-wk5rd 2 года назад

Definitely agree, being an avid modeler and stuff I'd be totally keen

@BuzzLOLOL Год назад

CollectPanda33 below has a model of this plane!

@velchuck 2 года назад

A absolutely beautiful airplane. As a kid, I saw them flying all the time. My scout master was part of the test team. It’s so sad.

@nong333 2 года назад

A shame this plane was never brought into service. But it's understandable in retrospect when compared to ICBM carrying nuclear powered submarines

@Sacto1654 2 года назад

Despite what you think about Admiral Hyman Rickover, he was right that the best way (at the time) to deliver nuclear weapons from seaborne platforms was the submarine launched ballistic missile. Especially once the Poseidon C-3 became available, which allowed nuclear submarines to launch missiles well way from the Soviet Union shoreline.

@zolikoff 2 года назад

@@Sacto1654 The only reason I don't like Rickover was his later life quote that he believes nuclear power is inherently too dangerous to be in civil hands and should not be used, and nuclear powered submarines were just a "necessary evil". Though I find it hard to believe that someone with his experience could hold such a dumb idea, perhaps he was being used as a figurehead by one interest or another.

@altoclan21 2 года назад

@Fremen yeah... No. Dedicated recon fly higher (u2, sr71), for bomb truck there's f18 then f35. Useful in iraq/ afgan? You kidding? Useful for what? Personel transport, there's ship and helo, osprey can drop people too, and stuff too if they are desperate. Seaplane is niche stuff, it's pricey, and from what i heard, high maintenance too.

@micfail2 2 года назад

@Onii San great point about maintenance costs, Navy aircraft are heavier and more durable then Air Force aircraft (and therefore are generally far more expensive then their non navalized aircraft counterparts) because they need to be able to put up with the harsh conditions of being on a carrier deck. I can only imagine how much more wear and tear a seaplane would experience compared to an aircraft parked on the flight deck of a carrier.

@patrickweaver1105 2 года назад

@@zolikoff He was right. Time and again it's been proven civilian companies will cut costs even at the expense of safety and governments are incapable of regulating them. If they would allow safe reactor technologies things would have been different. Uranium fueled pressurized water reactors reactors are dirty and dangerous things.

@joeraderblackrockcentralrr 2 года назад

I live about 10 miles from the old Martin plant and remember seeing this plane fly on several occasions. Wish I had taken photos back then. The Martin Museum has a tail section which is the only part left

@captain_commenter8796 2 года назад

Sea Master: I’m gonna make it into service! Aircraft costs: *Im about to ruin this man’s whole career*

@katherineberger6329 2 года назад

@Ian Wilson SLBMs made its nuclear mission obsolete, helicopters are better for SAR, and supercarriers have better range and can deliver more conventional armament.

@OffGridInvestor 2 года назад

You could say that about MANY aircraft.

@OffGridInvestor 2 года назад

@Ian Wilson NOOOO.... it's what happens when the damn thing blows out to like 8 TIMES the original cost. You seem to think money is LIMITLESS for stuff that will never BE USED in ACTUAL war.... like that stupid joint strike fighter thing that Canada, Australia and like a total of 7 countries were involved in. The project was SEVERAL TIMES the original cost and 7 years late BEFORE A PROTOTYPE was built. I think it turned out 12 years late or we may have even given up. There's a point where it's PEOPLE WASTING MONEY and the project CAN'T DELIVER what they promised. Just like the joint strike fighter that couldn't meet a WHOLE BUNCH of things it was originally claimed it would be able to do.

@Gunni1972 2 года назад

Thanks for the metrics, and another one of the forgotten steps on the Aircraft development ladder. it is amazing, what engineers are able to ignore just out of passion. Water and Jet turbines in close proximity to each other for example. A nice-weather plane. so the radars who watch them, have clear line of sight. And then make it BIG. I love those "engineering Dreams". And i like, how Lockheed Martin still thinks, develops, and gets paid this way. Ordering 18, then 8, and at the end 3, reminds me a bit of the F-35 procurement.

@sthede1000 2 года назад

You mentioned a maximum altitude of 20,000 feet, according to Wikipedia, the max ceiling is 50,000 feet, the same as the B-52. 20,000 would be super low, comparatively. For reference, a modern Airbus A380 can fly at 45,000 feet.

@_Mercurial 2 года назад

Can't blame them, probably lots of script errors

@collectpanda3350 2 года назад

Incredible video. I can’t believe you made a video on this vehicle, my great grand father was one of its engineers. I still have a model of this air craft he gave me for my birthday years and years ago

@alonespirit9923 2 года назад

Hey, that is cool!

@Yuki_Ika7 2 года назад

Flying boats and float planes have a very special place in my heart, my great-grandfather was one of (if not the) first to divebomb in a pby 5 catalina, my first war thunder squadren was =FLOAT=, one that used primarily flying boats and floatplanes, i love them very much!

@Pathfinders_Ascend 2 года назад

Never in a million years would I imagine the B-52 concept and seaplanes merging into one design. The cold war was truly WILD!

@uingaeoc3905 2 года назад

In terms of aircraft after WW2 Martin did not produce a 'winner' except for the licence production of the B57 EE Canberra. The Rocket division at Marietta was a different matter - and merged with Lockheed. Even if the P6M entered service the Polaris project would have replaced it. However, there were major flaws in the structural design not mentioned here. During testing the pre-prods wings flexed so far that they could be said to 'clap under the belly' and then on another flight they flexed in the opposite direction 'clap above the head' these were absolute failures of design. As for a civilain version - this inhabited the make believe world that the UK SARO Princess and Duchess inhabited. Concrete runways are cheaper than boating arrangements and more convenient.

@neniAAinen 2 года назад

To be fair - while sea mines were sort of coverage for nuclear strike - they were implemented 100% seriously. And this very concept (preemptive mining from the air) is fully viable even now.

@Elios0000 2 года назад

this on top the wing issues it had control issues and engine issues from sea water ingestion. the whole project was mess from the start

@RapideWombaticus 2 года назад

This is an amazing looking thing - love the design and shape of this airframe. I have a book named: 'World's Worst Aircraft' - not necessarily bad aircraft throughout (although it does feature stuff like the Christmas Bullet) and I remember reading about this cancelled project. Thank you for presenting this in such a slick fashion - great upload mate

@YamahaR12015 2 года назад

Definitely makes sense why it was canceled but good lord this plane would almost certainly still be in service today for a variety of tasks... what a piece of engineering and a damn shame it wasn't preserved

@alanrogers7090 2 года назад

I loved this plane. When I was a kid, (Born 1950), I had two models of this, and of course, many other jets of that time period. It always seemed to offer so much. I was crushed when it was cancelled, (and again when the Avro Arrow was cancelled).

@randalmontgomery4595 2 года назад

Ditto!

@tomt373 2 года назад

I found its resemblance to the Handley Page Victor interesting. Basically looking like a sea-going Victor, with the negative dihedral and the horizontal stabilizers mounted on top of the rudders.

@red66malibu 2 года назад

I remember as a kid riding in the backseat of dads car seeing Seamaster’s dismantled behind Glenn L Martin’s building. I thought why would they take apart such a beautiful plane as this?

@justsomebloke6784 2 года назад

Your production values are great: none of that pesky jump-cutting going on. I like to look at an image and get time to take it in and you give just that as well as an awesomely fact-laden voiceover. Every video is a pleasure, thank you.

@michealoflaherty1265 2 года назад

Great video. The Seamaster was such a beautiful concept. The logical follow up video would be its fighter escort the Convair sea dart. 😊

@raymondclark1785 2 года назад

The Navy should have made a quick reaction force to hold and area until the fleet arrived. Made up of Seamasters, Marines in Tradewinds and fighter support with Darts. There could even have been an AWACs version that could have just floated and not needed to always been airborne

@gravelydon7072 2 года назад

@@raymondclark1785 The Tradewinds would have been able to do that job as an AWACs plane.

@JFrazer4303 2 года назад

Besides the Sea Dart there were numerous designs from Convair, Boeing, and Lock-Mart and others for seaplane fighters and tactical planes. Everyone writes as if these single prototype run attempts mined the idea out thoroughly and there's nothing else that ever could have worked.

@kennethmartin1300 2 года назад

This magnificent aircraft, along with the Army's cancelled AH-56 'Cheyenne' helicopter fell victim to the Air Force and inter-service rivalry. The U.S. Air force is responsible for lots of cancelled programs. They apparently came out swinging when they branched off on their own (I think it was '47) and they fought every other branch continuously over everything.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 года назад

That is not true. Both Army and USAF chiefs of staff agreed to not step on each others' toes. The Cheyenne was plagued with problems that caused delays and eventually had Lockheed chasing a mechanical solution for a problem that was being solved with digital controls.

@demanischaffer 2 года назад

The P6M was killed because the Navy didn't need a nuclear bomber when it has SLBMs which relegated the bomber to a minelayer

@gravelydon7072 2 года назад

@@demanischaffer Not true as proven by the A3J Vigilante. Which came after the Sea Masters. And the story about it just being needed as a minelayer was due to the USAF not wanting the Navy to have a nuke bomber.

@demanischaffer 2 года назад

@@gravelydon7072 You mean the Vigilante which spent most of its life as the RA-5? a recon aircraft after the Navy stopped procurement of the A3J/A5 around only 2 years after adopting it and then went on to convert the majority of the existing fleet to pure recon aircraft?

@gravelydon7072 2 года назад

@@demanischaffer Yep, but it was a nuclear attack bomber first.

@ernestpaul2484 2 года назад

Beautiful looking aircraft. I have always had a thing about flying boats. The PBY started my fascination with them. Maybe I should have gone in the Navy instead of the Army.

@Vespyr_ 2 года назад

Yeah I regret not going the Navy route myself tbh.

@ryanpayne7707 2 года назад

If anyone's ever in Baltimore, there's a Martin museum open at Martin State Airport that has both an indoor museum space and several aircraft out on the ramp. I don't think any of them are still airworthy, but its a pretty neat little museum.

@chrismartin3197 2 года назад

Just a shame there a so few Martin aircraft left (not just because we have the same name): A few B-26s 1 or 2 B-10s 1 PBM 1 Marlin 1 Maryland wreck, 0 Baltimores…

@Arthion 2 года назад

Whilst it might have lost its main job as a strategic bomber, it still seems like it showed a ton of potential as a utility-plane. Shame they canned it entirely

@DavidFMayerPhD 2 года назад

I was also saddened by the demise of the flying boats in general. They had proven their abilities during the "Clipper Ship" era and during WW2. They had enormous flexibility. I thought that they would make ideal long range patrol aircraft for naval warfare. They needed no airports, only floating tender ships to resupply fuel and consumables. From a civilian point of view, they could go where no other aircraft could operate: rivers, lakes, estuaries, islands. I am sorry that no permanent niches were found for them.

@vandelayofficial492 2 года назад

great piece of Martin engineering, built right in Baltimore. Wish there was one still around.

@jamesbecker5423 2 года назад

I remember building a model of this plane when I was eight years old. Little did I know that fifteen years later I would be working for Lockheed later to become Lockheed Martin.

@baggins4354 2 года назад

I had the plastic model of this as a kid. Dad (former air force) said it just wasn't needed by the time it would have entered service and the different branches of the military were always fighting for a bigger share of the "pie."

@JFrazer4303 2 года назад

"Wasn't needed" by services that had their hands deeply in the pockets of industrialists building ships, subs and seaplanes.

@waynethomas1726 2 года назад

That was a really great story! I have to wonder why any company would do business with any branch of the military after all the stories like this we hear about where perfectly viable programs, in this case, one that was actually used and could have just been implemented, were canceled. Cancellations like this have been the death of many companies. I think of all the people who were feeding their families by working for one of these companies who's whole future was dependent on the whims of the higher ups at a branch of the military or in government.

@bobdylan7120 2 года назад

The Royal Navy's Buccaneer aircraft (that first flew in 1958) successfully used a rotating bomb bay.

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 2 года назад

They also used it on some of the Cambarras I think.. The advantage is it strengthens the fuselage and as it doesnt have opening bombay doors they dont generate the same drag and trim changes when open. On a flyingboat hull it meant the bombay could be water tight . Re Arming could be from the top or below on land on its floating ground handling cradle. If this could have been built like the Be Albatross ie as an amphibian .... It could have made a powerful strike aircraft or ASW /ASR or special forces rapid insertion Delivery aircraft or rapid recon. It always reminds me of my UK favourite the HP Victor, transonic V bomber. These days composites could be used for a corrosion damage resistant cellular water hull form and wing construction.. The hull lacks the depth and volume of a bulk transport ..but the Be 200 and A42 give good ideas of what is possible in terms of loads and sea states...convergent evolution would have probably moved the engines higher and intakes more aft ... Swing outer wings ..? They were thinking out of the box then... These days as long as a hull is Air smooth and bouyant retracting foils or fins like used on the Lisa Akoya might be used and supersonic figures obtained. As well as a lower radar signature. Nearest Equivalent the B1/2 in strike role.

@artthurman3446 2 года назад

Nice documentary. Bob Turner was the pilot/Captain of the second P6M that began to break-apart. I recall a story about the crew bailout.

@triftiduda7636 2 года назад

Thank you for also stating the metric units!

@TeChM4NuAloJuNkiE 2 года назад

"for those people that deal in metric" ENTIRE WORLD except Americans: Are we joke to you ???

@TheRyujinLP 2 года назад

Yes :P

@TeChM4NuAloJuNkiE 2 года назад

@@TheRyujinLP :P

@solargreg1 2 года назад

I wish we could switch to Metric, but I understand that the US is stuck with non-metric, actually it sucks for us living here, however there is zero chance that we will switch any time soon...we have so many other political problems, Metric isnt even on the radar. But really, its a mistake to put BOTH metric and English in the same video. So many numbers just kills the flow of the narrative. I end up skipping past all the parts where numbers and specs are recited endlessly, in two different systems, my ears experiencing something the equivalent of going crosseyed. All computer platforms need to implement a feature that translates between Metric and English, according to a user's preference. Dont try to tell me that computers cant do that...calculating numbers automatically is exactly what computers are good at. Dear RU-vid programmers: get on with it.

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@solidlift 2 года назад

Most people here in the US that I know, use both. Perhaps depends on which induatry you work in.

@brotherjim3051 2 года назад

We need to bring seaplanes back into vogue.

@sirius4k 2 года назад

Why?

@musewolfman 2 года назад

@@sirius4k 'cause they're cool!

@FBISHOJI 2 года назад

It's a lot safer this way, you can try and crash land in water if you have the balls 😉 to do it. If a regular plane crashes into the water it sinks

@robertharper3754 2 года назад

@@sirius4k, are you serious? They could be great sub hunters, as well as anti shipping options with the right load of missiles. They could resupply small outposts on small islands, they would make naval medivacs soooo much easier, extended search and rescue capabilities, or the really cool thing, these combined with a fleet of modern PT style boats would really boost combat capability in the Pacific. Not to mention the civil uses for disaster relief.

@sirius4k 2 года назад

@@musewolfman Do you have enough money to build expensive-ass shit no one really needs because it's cool? That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works.

@Achromania 2 года назад

I've always wondered why navies moved away from the "flying boat' concept. I'm sure there are/were very practical reasons for this but from my perspective they could be incredibly useful today. Whether for bombing, cargo, refueling, reconnaissance, or even special operations - they appear to be very versatile platforms, allowing for enormous strategic flexibility. They don't need runways, they can be refueled or resupplied just about anywhere via submarines. Maybe not very useful or cost effective within the context of the large armored conflicts that were anticipated in Europe between NATO and the USSR during the Cold War, but now, with the rise of Chinese beligernce and the SCS becoming a possible focal point for conflict in the near future they could be incredibly useful. Perfect for a region filled with archipelagos and small island chains. Feels like wasted potential.

@spiritzweispirit1st638 2 года назад

Thank You! Beautifully Made and Narrated Video and Such a Beautiful Aircraft!✈🌎🌍🌏🇺🇸

@Axgoodofdunemaul 2 года назад

Interesting, and I remember reading about the P6M as a kid in the Fifties. Also saw the plastic model in the stores. When I asked my father why it wasn't being produced, he said, "A seaplane base is just as vulnerable as an airfield on land; the B-52 can perform all of the P6M's missions; the whole project is a political boondoggle." So I didn't buy the kit.

@gravelydon7072 2 года назад

Except a B-52 can't land if its base is bombed while it is very hard to blow up water.

@JFrazer4303 2 года назад

That was a vapid thing to say about it. How is a seaplane with thousands of miles of shoreline to meet supply and support, as easy to blow up as a few very precisely located (by the enemy) military bases?

@robertlaw4073 2 года назад

This story sounds remarkably similar to what happened with the Navy's "next gen" destroyer program. I.e., they project buying dozens and dozens at a very low per unit cost, and then when the vessel is developed, they cancel so many order that the per unit cost becomes prohibitive... like the weapons systems on the destroyers that they can't afford to fire because the munitions are too expensive and they only have a few of them. Kinda sad that this is from the supposedly worlds most advanced / powerful Navy.

@jerbrew701 2 года назад

Really excellent graphics and narrative. Interesting story. Thank you.

@zeketeccnc1207 2 года назад

Fascinating aircraft and great vid on it. I also learned of the Martin aviation museum which is local to me that I didn't know of. Will make sure to check that out in the near future.

@edhikurniawan 2 года назад

When i saw the 3D model of the 1st prototype, i instantly think. The hull will be OK right? Heat resistant right? It will not bake the interior right? Until you say, it scorched the hull. Aaaaah, undertandable. The 2nd prototype with 5° degree angle, i can see it will introduce spin. Balancing 2 pairs of engines are difficult, unless with computer aid. I mean the engine itself has already seemingly slanted downward looking how it sat on the sea. Then you add an extra 5° sideways. Nevertheless it was a gorgeous looking seaplane. Kinda looks like the Crusader.

@mechizawa 2 года назад

You made a mistake at @7:32 saying "Reconnisance range at 283 miles" instead of 2,083 miles

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@alanclarke3228 2 года назад

The Seamaster had the beauty of a British or Russian bomber aircraft. I'm glad I still have my Revell Seamaster models as a nice memory!

@andreasplosky8516 2 года назад

Never heard of this plane. A very interesting concept. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

@FoundAndExplained 2 года назад

No worries!

@mtssman 2 года назад

I play WoWS since its very beginning, and still do now. Trust me, considering how much genuine effort you have poured into the videos, it will never ever put your channel to shame.

@oxcart4172 2 года назад

Such a beautiful aircraft. Really looking forward to this!

@JustARandomHuman 2 года назад

Forward to this- But it failed*

@oxcart4172 2 года назад

@@JustARandomHuman I don't think it did. It just wasn't ordered into production!,

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@oxcart4172 2 года назад

@@irasingh2498 thank u!

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

@@oxcart4172 bro serch Aditya Rathore he is very good journalist

@winglessviper 2 года назад

Such a lovely bird. I really love the yellow & red paint scheme.

@bearray57 2 года назад

I have read many articles in the aviation press regards these aircraft. I enjoyed your presentation!

@captain_commenter8796 2 года назад

Such an awesome piece of engineering lost to the tales of time 😢😢

@enviable1259 2 года назад

If this thing is built it would change everything

@Justanotherconsumer 2 года назад

Nah. Sitting duck for SAMs.

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 2 года назад

The Martin B57 was a development of the Cambera 🇬🇧 bomber... both were famous for their flight characteristics, weapons loads and ability to loiter ... The other RFAA aircraft with the rotary bombay was the Blackburn Buccaneer a strike attack aircraft which was also nuclear capable.

@rgerber 2 года назад

This guy is just as good as Mustard. Gonna binge watch all his videos. So cool!

@ThePadi94 2 года назад

"for those that deal in metric" So 99% of the world...

@robertharper3754 2 года назад

The ones who haven't been to the moon! :P

@ThePadi94 2 года назад

Robert Harper the moon was technically reached in metric...

@robertharper3754 2 года назад

@@ThePadi94, technically......

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@ThePadi94 2 года назад

Robert Harper yeah the spacecraft calculated in metric and converted it for the screens...

@robertheinrich2994 2 года назад

7:30 wow, it can fly 283 miles...as a reconnaissance distance... that's a bit underwhelming.

@ericmcconnaughey2782 2 года назад

If you look at the graphic, it's supposed to be two _thousand_ and eighty-three miles. Whoever did the narration kinda goofed.

@rexringtail471 2 года назад

Honestly could still be useful. I've written the undersec of defense for acquisition and my senators about it-- with distributed lethality and a high likelihood that the next war will be fought in the pacific littoral or as a distant maritime intervention campaign, a fast, utilitarian amphibious bomber that could lay mines, carry ASCMs, serve as AEW for independent destroyer squadrons, and refuel at both marine expeditionary bases and even off of surface escorts would be tremendously valuable

@samedwards6683 2 года назад

Thank you for another great, informative, interesting and entertaining video. More!

@holeshotshane6344 2 года назад

Id imagine that if given enough development time, they couldve gotten it to become super sonic capable

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@suzukirider9030 2 года назад

Very hard to do with the shape of the hull they had. Supersonic and seaplane hull design requirements clash a lot. I don't think there was ever a single supersonic seaplane made?

@suzukirider9030 2 года назад

Well, apparently there was, ONE, supersonic sea plane PROTOTYPE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F2Y_Sea_Dart

@holeshotshane6344 2 года назад

@@suzukirider9030 lol i was wondering if curiousity would get you on that. Yeah the Sea Dart was a fighter/interceptor and was basically a Delta Dagger made to land on water... not sure how they got around the whole ocean spray in the low mounted engine intakes though.

@archiedentone5950 2 года назад

@@holeshotshane6344 they didn’t

@vaishnavkala3752 2 года назад

the most stuning animation on this channel

@YDDES Год назад

In the -50’s There was a cartoon strip called “Buzz Sawyer”. Buzz was a test pilot in the NAVY and a CIA agent. In one part of the cartoon, he test flew a “Seamaster” powered by nuclear fission engines. He also flew a “scaled down” version of the Convair “Seadart”, called “Midjet”, that never existed in reality.

@ralfhtg1056 2 года назад

Thanbk you for including metric numbers!

@thomasdunn496 2 года назад

It might have made a great firefighting tanker.

@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@FangsInMyLeg 2 года назад

time to stay up til 5 am to watch bote plane

@colinbarnard6512 Год назад

Gaaaads!!!!!! An entire vid from this gentleman without one utterance of 'TERRIFYING'!!!! We have a kinder, gentler Aussie Yootoober here! This flying boat looks remarkably like the Soviet Ekranoplan. I'll have to surf a bit to see which came first. I'll speculate the Martin did, but I may be transferring my Ukraine Invasion Ire here. A jet-powered Martin flying boat airliner. Just like the Clippers of yore, tooling around the Pacific bcause of the dearth of land-based airports. Sounds good to me. When one thinks of the hideous amount of land and infrastructure that has to be built in order to support that land airport, modern flying boats may be a retro version of progress. You don't even have to have natural harbours, as they can be built anywhere, with room to spare. Transitioning to a non-carbon combustale fuel would make them even more realizable. Truth be told, though, I'd rather spend three days on a solar cell covered dirigible flying Toronto to London, than 3 hours on a Concord. The reason: rest and relaxation, and civilized accommodations. If I wanted to squeeze foetal position into an airplane seat, I'd practice first by sleeping in a coffin. Beautiful plane. Informative vid. And no naked terror. Cheers with Foster's.

@watchthe1369 2 года назад

initial cold war era efforts that were throwing darts at the wall. The Navy got the Boomer Subs instead which were far more effective. Especially after we had to pull back from Turkey as part of the deal for the Cuban Missiles crisis resolution.

@joquino73 2 года назад

Beautiful design. A real true strange airplane.

@enviable1259 2 года назад

I would call it a masterpiece

@danielkennedy1524 2 года назад

Excellent video! A true jet ahead of its time(sort of)

@johndavis6119 2 года назад

I guarded the Glen L Martin airport in the late 70s we snuck into the test bunkers for the nuclear propulsion component of this project. I snuck off with some of the reports. Binders full of them. But they got lost in the several moves I made. I wish I still had them.

@Vearph 2 года назад

I already had world of warships when this video was uploaded d:

@atmos1013 2 года назад

Best video yet! Keep up the outstanding work!

@UnitZER0 2 года назад

Is there a version of the CG model used in this video that can be 3d printed? The only model kits currently available are of the prototype version, so a model of the M-2 would be nice.

@jamesricker3997 2 года назад

There were problems with the jet exhaust being to close to the fuselage It would have required a major redesign and a few years to fix. Polaris was on the drawing board given the choice of flying boats or nuclear ballistic submarines, and Navy chose the submarines

@gravelydon7072 2 года назад

The exhaust problem had already been fixed when the program was scrapped. Only the first two aircraft had that problem.

@Invalidar 2 года назад

It's sad there isn't a complete airframe to be found for this plane.

@JustARandomHuman 2 года назад

GAIJIN PLSSSS

@matttrafton2725 Год назад

I always thought the P6M should have been built. I once fused two Seamaster models into a twinned Super Seamaster with fifth cruising turbine atop the middle wing.

@rschaffer8 2 года назад

A good book on this subject is “Attack from the Sea” by William F. Trimble, published by the Naval Institute Press.

@joeviking61 2 года назад

Since I was a Boy, I have always been enthralled with Flying Boats. I still don’t understand their demise. Remember the Flying Sub, from Voyage to the bottom of the Sea .

@wheels-n-tires1846 2 года назад

My fav show as a kid!!!

@K-Effect 2 года назад

At 7:30 You said 283 miles? Are you sure about that?

@risk0systemsuk171 2 года назад

Yes. Heard that too.

@alanguest1979 2 года назад

Quite like the SeaMaster, just wondering if it could had been used for maritime patrol and naval warfare roles?

@kurosumomo 2 года назад

ShinMaywa US-2 exists, introduced in 2007, so the thing about "the last flying boat" doesn't quite check out and that's one minute into the video.

@danb2234 2 года назад

Aircraft number 69 Nice

@eyesofstatic9641 2 года назад

Nice

@FBISHOJI 2 года назад

Flying 420HRS with flight experience lol

@wilberator9608 2 года назад

This is what immediately though of when I first heard about nuclear-powered aircraft!

@7thsealord888 2 года назад

Seaplanes have their own maintenance problems, but have certain advantages over more conventional land-based aircraft. In a different reality. the Seamaster and its kind may be taken for granted - and we're all looking at videos about things like Polaris subs and/or supercarriers thinking "Holy crap! They wanted to build THAT?!?!"

@GERntleMAN 2 года назад

"The people that deal in metric." Well, yes. The world. Even engineers in the US, who want to do something proper. Like in aeronautics, space agencies or any scientific institution.

@willv2746 2 года назад

Why do you care so much to complain. This doesn’t really matter

@GERntleMAN 2 года назад

@@willv2746 True

@C4Cole05 2 года назад

I wish this wasn't sponsored by World Of Warships so I could like this video, but the need to boycott that mess of a game and its god awful treatment of its content creators outweighs the need to like a really good video

@FromWitchSide 2 года назад

By the time P6M was cancelled both US and SU had intercontinental ballistic missiles in service (as well as mach 2 fighters). That is 3 years after works on Polaris started, 2 years after Sputnik 1 launched, 1 year after the first nuclear warhead SAM.

@Elios0000 2 года назад

So i had family that worked on the Sea Master.... it was a mess sea water and jets just dont mix. and there was need for it with larger carriers and subs. the era of the flying boat was over after WWII. it had major control issues as well more then one was lost during testing as well. they never fixed the sea spray in the engines. and the high take off and landing speeds meant it couldnt take off or land in bad weather or any thing more then light winds.

@FoundAndExplained 2 года назад

always good to know the real truth!

@JFrazer4303 2 года назад

As if a single trial of a single design, thoroughly mines out the entire type. Beriev sees your comments about sea water and jets not working, and says "See ya!". They continued operating seaplanes all through the cold war. Many other nations have them for sea control and SAR. Yet somehow the biggest nation with great amounts of coastline and interests at sea all around the world thinks a $2 billion CVN or SSBN is easier to spot and use than a seaplane. Any commentary that it wasn't needed because of subs and large carriers is just tail chasing Circular argument that demands its own conclusion while it's trying to explain the path to the conclusion. It wasn't desired by a service that had their hands deeply in the pockets of contractors who they planned to retire to work for.

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@irasingh2498 2 года назад

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@animal9432 2 года назад

My Dad was going through Naval Flight School in 1955 and went Maritime/Seaplane pipeline because he wanted to fly the P6-M. Didn't work out; he ended up flying the P2V and the P3A, B, and C.