Theresia Adinda this is random but i just realised that ‘thank you’ in korean is ‘kamsahamida’ & ‘thank you’ in hokkien (a chinese dialect from the fujian province & is used in taiwan too) is ‘kamsia’. both start off similarly. what a coincidence.
@@rosetyong haha that's true. my family was in japan & my parents said that the kanji words used have more similarity to cantonese than mandarin. i wouldn't have know this because i only know english & mandarin.
Honestly loads of people in the comments are saying that Lucas sounds like he isn’t fluent in Cantonese, but actually it’s really hard for people to switch from Mandarin to Cantonese. Cantonese has so many more tones for each letter and Mandarin only has four. He’s also been living in Korea for a long time and his Cantonese is pretty rusty since he hasn’t used it a lot. As a person who was born and raised in Hong Kong, I know exactly how hard it is to be trilingual. So don’t blame Lucas for not being 100% fluent in Cantonese. He’s getting a lot better now anyways. uwu stream ridin’
Ajxks this tbh ^^^ when I think I think in all three languages lmao, canto is technically my first language and i was born and raised in Canada - language switching even at home i a WHOLE MESS let alone lucas who is surrounded by koreans
Tbh after listening to his accent and how he talks with Hendery it's pretty obvious that he's most fluent/comfortable in Canto, he definitely just can't language switch to save his life haha plus he's probably nervous speaking front of a bunch of people so that doesn't help. I can relate though lmao, I'm most comfortable in Canto too but my brain will just sometimes malfunction switching between Canto and Mandarin; poor boy has to juggle those two + korean so it's probably even worse for him
I kind of feel you as I am also multi lingual( English, chinese, sichuanese, Japanese, soon to be Malay) I always have a hard time during Japanese lessons as I only speak Japanese during lessons.
@@milkyway6021 the thing is I only learning it cos of sch and will never use ur other than in lessons. The only exposure I have to Malay is my national anthem oop
I'm still amazed waahhh.. Jackson and Lucas is in the same neighborhood in fact Jackson probably can walk from his place to Lucas place within a minute and they just knew it when they're talking to each other in keep running😂
Shatin is the district they’re both from. (I’m also from Shatin) I live in a government housing while 5 minutes away, there’s a residential building that is quite expensive and only wealthier people live in
@SomeDays Jackson’s parents aren’t rich. People always think Jackson’s family was rich because his parents are Olympic athletes, but Jackson actually said on a show that his mom would work multiple jobs to get enough money to pay Jackson’s tuition and to buy food.
People don’t realize that in these settings he’s not just “switching” from one language to the other, there’s usually ppl talking in a bunch of different languages/dialects, he’s probably reading in different languages while answering questions and trying to come up with thoughtful answers. The brain can only process so much at the same time, add to that being emotional/nervous. If you’re just listening and not participating understanding is a lot easier than being in that situation actively speaking
I’m really happy that Lucas has Hendery (and Xiaojun, although Xiaojun is more used to Mandarin) with him I’m WayV, because he’s able to speak Canto with them. If Hendery wasn’t there, Lucas may lose his Cantonese even more
it seems to me that since he reverts to canto when he talks to hendery that he's still most comfortable in canto.. there's no way he went to intl school bc his english is really bad lmao mayb he just struggles which is ok sometimes it b like that. it's possible that his canto got a little less natural sounding bc when he left hk and started training at sm there wasn't anyone to talk to for a while until hendery joined a few years later
Lmao same, but I related so much since my mother tongue is both filipino AND english so it's hard speaking only one language at command, especially in front of many people. It's more common than you think outside of english speaking countries lol.
I think lucas is fluent in canto, like im also from hong kong and the way he speaks to hendery really shows how fluent he actually is, its just that when he's nervous (especially when he was newly debuted) or he was speaking another language but has to suddenly switch to canto, he gets confused, it happens to his other languages too haha. but now i think he kinda got the balance so he speaks better canto now (i can relate lol when im speaking english and speak canto again ill use cantoglish hahahahahha
I can fully relate to the language switching part. It happens to me all the time. Sometimes the brain doesn't click and even if I'm pretty fluent in my mother tongue I kinda mix it up with a similar dialect that's generally spoken by people, from the place I belong or find it really tough to switch suddenly.
As a trilingual Cantonese-English-Mandarin speaker... I can’t agree more it’s such an easy language to be lost in....... Btw it’s funny he is using some Mandarin words that nobody uses in Cantonese, it still makes sense but it’s kinda weird XD
@@niojji brooo I can speak english and canto but like it's pretty easy to learn mando if you're already fluent in canto, lots of similar words :') hope you get to learn someday. I'm also abc!
asldfkdjfd same! except i'm definitely not as fluent as you,,,,would you mind giving an example of words that he used improperly in cantonese? i could understand his cantonese but i'm not sure which ones nobody actually uses ALSDFKLDK bc he sounds like how i speak cantonese rn
as a cantonese speaker, you all do not understnad how hard cantonese is. There are so much more tones and depending on dialect, the way you speak can make it all sound flat. Canto is really really hard
Yuta making fun of Lucas’s “Can you speak English? Dae” is honestly me every time Lucas speaks because he’s only 30% less confused in Cantonese than he is in any other language and it shows
@@audoldends6799 sorry for my misunderstanding. But I found many comments said his Cantonese is not good but those people don’t know Cantonese. Actually Lucas Cantonese accents and pronunciation is better than Jackson. So sad people always said sth like that.
Its adorable when Kun was trying to say beef in Canto and Lucas was trying to teach him. Im Canto and tbh sometimes it's difficult to say that word bc you kinda gotta use the back of your throat to say it
As someone who speaks English, Mandarin, Cantonese and Filipino (along with Rinconada and Bicol-Naga dialect), IT REALLY IS HARD to switch from one language to another. It's like a switch that sometimes, it only lets you continue speaking one language and for you to speak a whole other language, you have to switch the previous off and it takes moments to do so. Other problems for multilingual person is you know how to say one word in one language but completely forget how to say the same word in another language. It's hard. 😭😭😭
As someone who only speaks English and German I’m so impressed with how you can know and speak all these languages and I imagine switching in between them must be insanely hard !!
people who move overseas often have a really scary time period where they forget their native tongue faster than they learn their new language.. i feel really bad for lucas ;-; hope he's holding up
Jay Park mentioned this in an interview years ago, and thought he was exaggerating. Then saw Jackson struggle to remember a word for a certain dumpling...and it blew my mind. A person really can forget words in their native language after staying in a foreign country for awhile.
I grew up speaking Cantonese as my 2nd language and I still fluently speak it with my family on a daily basis, but if I were asked to speak formally and publicly, it is actually very difficult. I think this is Lucas’ struggle in that the bare practice he gets is only conversational and not on a formal level. That why in the first clip he struggles to speak smoothly
i love it when idols speak cantonese because i was born and raised in Hong Kong , and also i relate to lucas , because when i’m home i have to speak a different language, when i’m in school i have to speak a different language, and it’s hard to speak so many languages at a time .
He sounds like me when I speak Cantonese. I was born with Cantonese parents but went to school that speaks English (I was born and raised in Australia) so originally my parents only knew Cantonese so then my first language was Cantonese. I was able to speak it until I was about 6/7/8 years old. But then my parents also tried to get me to learn Mandarin. So basically I was tackling three languages. But eventually since I go to school and speak English, now I am fluent in English and trash in both Mandarin and Cantonese lol. Now I can only speak basic Cantonese and my accent and tones are all off. Lol.
Everyone saying that Lucas isn’t fluent in any language. That’s completely not true, he’s a native mandarin speaker. He just isn’t good at switching between the languages And he’s nervous
I think a lot of Lucas’ 2018/19 language problems mostly stemmed from nerves. Now that he’s done more variety promotion and there have been more WayV reality programs and lives, you can tell how good his Mandarin has gotten but you also get to see how Cantonese really is his mother tongue from how easily he slips into speaking it with Hendery and Xiaojun. I don’t know why his accent is the way it is but there’s no doubt he feels most comfortable with Cantonese.
i’m from singapore & this is my language dilemma: my parents use cantonese when they don’t want my sister & i to know what they’re saying...my sister & i only know english & mandarin. it’s normal in our country for the younger generation not to know dialect. it’s because dialect got banned in our country. (more of discouraged so that the various dialect groups would have a common language & stop fighting..?) i’m not the best at explaining this. my father isn’t even cantonese. his dialect group is teochew. he learnt cantonese because back in his era; hong kong movies were really popular. the dialect ban also didn’t start until the 70s (correct me but i could be wrong) edit: it kickstarted the ‘speak mandarin’ campaign to encourage the chinese to speak mandarin instead of dialects. from what i know, hokkien was used among the chinese & malay was used with other races. apparently, other races picked up hokkien from their chinese friends. anyway, the campaign is still around today but with a new purpose. although the government has successfully gotten rid of dialects in 1 generation, the new problem is that we use english instead of mandarin. i mean, what did they expect? they made english the medium of instruction in school, aka our 1st language. anyway, my father also knows hokkien since the majority of singaporeans are hokkien. my family started off as businessmen & learning dialect helped back in the day. i call myself teochew-cantonese, making me the minority in the majority. i get left out when people make random hokkien jokes but that’s a whole other story. the moment when your parents are linguistically better than you...my parents know both english and mandarin too. edit: i hope i don’t come off as being proud of my inability to speak teochew or cantonese. believe it or not, there was a period of time where speaking mandarin was seen as being of a lower socioeconomic status. that in turn caused the number of english speaking households to increase exponentially. also, our founding father once famously said that dialects were hindering the progress of our country.
this video explains my country’s history way better than i do: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yRTbElMMocc.html it also mentions the speech i mentioned in my original comment. this is why singapore is known for being so westernised as compared to other asian countries- edit: in singapore, we have something called singlish (pretty self-explanatory name. it’s singapore english, so it’s english with the sentence structure of mandarin along with hokkien, malay and even tamil words in it! there are also new words that were created because of singlish. unsurprisingly, the government discourages singlish. we’re taught standard english in school & we spell in british english since we were once a british colony. for example: i remember back in primary 1 or 2, it was normal for us to spell ‘colour’ as ‘color’ & our teachers kept emphasising on it. i myself made that mistake once because i only watched american cartoons and shows & that was where i learnt my spelling from. proud to say that there a numerous words i know both the british & american spellings of & i won’t mix them up. anyway, there’s also the speak english campaign in singapore. it’s to encourage the use of standard english so that we’ll be understood overseas... does the government realise that there’s this thing called code-switching? singlish is still thriving so far & i hope it never fades away! ironic coming from someone who doesn’t really use singlish & learnt half the singlish slang from school & social media... thanks for coming to my ted talk.
hey fellow singaporean!! HAHAHA my mums family speaks cantonese (i think) and my dads family speaks hokkien. and sadly i know one of it, only english and chinese. whenever i go back malaysia for cny, my cousins and relatives always speak cantonese and i know nothing about what they’re talking about or when they are making jokes and i’m just there like what’s happening :>? but i find it really sad that not a lot of teenagers know how to speak dialect and i think dialects are very special, it’s another form of chinese and i feel like it should be treated as tradition to be passed down generations by generations. and also, since when was singlish discouraged in singapore?? i’m not very sure since when was it discouraged but i agree that i hope our singlish won’t die off and it’s a very unique feature of singapore!
ayyyyyy I am brought up in Singapore, lived near where Lucas and Jackson lived in HK( so I know cantonese as well as mandarin) and now live in the uk lol... talk about my language dilemma when you family from hk want you to keep up your cantonese but mandarin is better for you future but then English is your main priority because you have to seek a English lit and language gcse... eeeek
i am also teo-chew cantonese!! i barely know any teo-chew except the common phrases. my mom also learned cantonese from watching tvb dramas. my parents speak cantonese, i can understand it pretty well but my speaking skills are terrible. i grew up in the u.s. so english was prioritized. i regret not taking language learning seriously when i was younger :( now i just have broken canto & mando. also, thanks for sharing some really interesting background about singapore! i knew that singaporeans all speak english but i never understood why.
kimbap kidding hello fellow 🇸🇬! i totally understand how you feel! for mine, my mom's side uses a mix of indonesian and colloquial malay since she is of indonesian descent whereas on my dad's side, though we are of hockchew descent, we speak mainly mandarin. my paternal grandmother speaks fluent cantonese and hokkien and switches in a blink (because apparently, some of my extended family members speak hokkien and some in cantonese 😂) and so does my father and uncles😂 that moment where they think you don't understand the juicy gossip since you don't speak the dialect, but you actually do 😂 polyglots can totally understand the confusion when it comes to speaking😂 i picked up korean on the side and am starting to learn cantonese, and the "lucas" effect is definitely rubbing off me😂
I like every time Lucas speak in Cantonese, feel like more relate to me , Hong Konger let’s work hard , and how the fxxk ppl will think he isn’t fluent in Cantonese? He sounds so fine to me stop making him like he can’t speak any language! His English has been improved a lot if you follow him in super m . Relax ppl
I don’t know Cantonese, so I have no idea how bad his mistakes are, but in his defense it is actually quite normal to start making mistakes in your mother tongue when you are learning 3 other languages and leaving abroad. Saying this from personal experience with 6+ languages.
I don't think his Cantonese is at native level. It sounds more like the Cantonese of someone who went to an international school in Hong Kong. That's the vibe I'm getting.
i dont think she speaks any language at native level cause of how hes constantly switching languages over long periods. you have to take in the fact that he probably havent studied cantonese since he left for sm and has only studied mandarin and korean aswell
If you don't use a language often, you do start to forget it, even if you're fluent. I spoke Cantonese from a young age with my family but it deteriorated a lot when I moved out
0:31 I think Lucas is thinking in Korean here, just from what he was trying to say. I think he was going to say 많이 기대해주세요but you have to put something behind 期待in Cantonese so he was flustered. I occasionally have similar problems as him so I think I know what he is thinking about😂😂
“你識唔識講英文” 😂😂 Thank u for making this video I really appreciate it ... now I have a video where I understand without subtitles 😅 and this is also y I should learn mandarin 😓 감사합니다 多謝 Thank u!
I get so excited whenever he speaks Cantonese since it's actually my first language😂 My grandma only understands Cantonese so she really likes Lucas as well haha
My mother tongue is Cantonese and sometimes my brain can't cooperate with my mouth to speak 😂😂 I can understand but can't speak, probably can if I really tried. I feel like every time I figure out what to say in my head beforehand next second it goes somewhere else. But then I feel like if I was fluent in all Cantonese and Mandarin I would have trouble switching. I was born speaking Cantonese but I'm not really sure if I had trouble transitioning from Cantonese to English I don't remember anything from early elementary school days. As I get older I wish I knew how to speak Cantonese, Mandarin and English without malfunction in the brain.
im cantonese but im not from hongkong so i dont really know how to speak it or understand it and my dad blames me for it... but after watching lucas, hendery, xiaojun and other kpop idols speak cantonese, i started understanding alot more ehe and thats on kpop
He's so cutee and precious to me❤️❤️and no one can change my mind:') and if you must know, it was he who made me want to finally learn mandarin or cantonese, even though i know it was hard enough, he's trully the love of my life:''💖💖
@@fullsunlee06 i agree, im fluent in english and canto but I'm terrible at switching too. Part of it is also when you're put on the spot and your mind just blank out, I feel like its the same for him. A lot of times interviewers ask them to say smth in a language and there really isnt much to say other than "hello thank you for your support we love you" It's not that they don't know how to say smth but rather they don't know WHAT to say.
Lol he’s very fluent but as a Cantonese child it is funny to see your fav k-pop group teaching each other the language and TrUsTfRaTeD But overall he does speak really good
Imagine if he can also speak Thai and English fluently that's gonna be 🔥🔥....but 2 language is already hard you know, so I'm proud on how he studied so hard and practicing to improve it.
I speak canto and there are so many words I still do not know. I don't blame Lucas for having bad Cantonese because when saying a sentence or something, sometimes you can't find the right word and stuff like that.
Translate for 4:47 to 5:12 4:47 "Can you turn the sound to be a little louder please, like just turn the knob." 4:49 "You put it down first, put down and search it on RU-vid., like find it" 4:54 "Your turn, like record yourself first and i'll look." 4:59 "You hold this first." 5:02 was kinda like a swear so no ty :> 5:11 "I think so." Translate for 5:12 to 5:29 5:12 "Like you can buy the ice something." 5:19 Like you know there's this thingy on top of their heads which are like 4 words, it's "ShaTin Big bro" for Jackson and "ShaTin Little bro" for Lucas. 5:22 to 5:29 is like a popular ad in HK then turns into a meme Translate for 5:32 to 5:59 5:32 "You sit here." "Huh?" "You sit here ah." "Oh, wait a min then, gotta bring some food over here." 5:40 "Wah, the shrimp is so yummy." "You don't eat the shell?" "Oh I don't." "Yeah, I don't eat the shell." "I eat it tho." 5:47 "Oh wah, it's too yummy. You want it?" "Wait wait, it's burned. It's burned, it's burned." "Oh yea, I burned it a little." 5:57 "I like to play Beatbox-" "You eat la." "It's a little spicy."
when I speak to my people I switch between mandarin, english and canto- it just happens so naturally, every time I try to stick to one language my brain needs to process how to say the word in that language so I'm most comfortable with switching xD downside is, no one can understand everything I'm saying except for my fellow trilingual friends at school ;-;
Jay Park mentioned this in an interview years ago, and thought he was exaggerating. Then saw Jackson struggle to remember a word for a certain dumpling...and it blew my mind. A person really can forget words in their native language after staying in a foreign country for awhile.
