Train Makers (Horwich Works, 1981)

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The glories of BREL - British Rail Engineering Limited - are celebrated in this promotional film looking at two of the company's 13 workshops, at Horwich in Lancashire and Crewe, in which locomotives and carriages are built for British Rail and companies overseas. This film is aimed at recruiting graduates to join as engineers, and follows a group of trainees, including one young woman - or "girl", as she's tellingly referred to.
This film was produced by British Transport Films, a prolific film unit which won many awards, including an Oscar. It made films for internal training and external promotion, chiefly for British Rail.
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This video isn't made by me, this description was taken from this.. there's much more of this footage, but this is the only part that contains the works.
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@chorlton4 5 месяцев назад

Watching this, You realise how much this country's engineering has gone down the pan ; globalisation and privatisation will be seen like a great plague for future generations.

@stevewilson1600 5 месяцев назад

I went to Rolls Royce Motors Ltd Diesel division 1976, Apprenticeship, Qualified in 1980, redundant in 1983, factory closed a few years ago. What a waste of talent our Thatcher great leader wasted.

@williamstephens9945 5 месяцев назад

It was nationalisation in the 70's and the trade unions that started the decline.

@stevewilson1600 5 месяцев назад

@@williamstephens9945 trade unions were going long before the 1970’s Thatcher was convinced to buy from abroad which is why most of our industry collapsed That’s why I was made redundant Thatcher was always after the cheap option at the expense of our own people

@22pcirish 5 месяцев назад

Privatisation has caused the Railfreight sector to boom! I should know as a freight driver. And our imported American locos are head and shoulders over all the old BR type 5’s.

@levelcrossing150 5 месяцев назад

I grew up watching my father run a Precision Engineering business during the 60's and it breaks my heart to see what has happened to manufacturing in our country now. Building trains for abroad eh, we cant even build our own now, how sad is that?

@johnclarke2997 Год назад

At 1 pm on Friday, 23 December 1983 Horwich Works closed after 97 years.

@mt5144 5 месяцев назад

Sadly in the UK all these Engineering skills are no longer with us, In the British Rail Days we had Horwich Works, Swindon Works, Crewe Works, St Rollox Works in Glasgow, Ashford Works, Doncaster Works, & Shildon Works the latter for Wagons, All which have sadly closed Down, Part of Doncaster works was purchased by a private railway company & lucky we still have the Very High Quality Eastleigh Works, Derby & Wolverton, Sadly most of the 80's Locos have gone with them.

@cedarcam 5 месяцев назад

At school they always said BR was one of the best places to get good training. To see BREL works on open days quite something, Upholstery, carpentry, electrical, fabrication and foundry work to name a few. It is so sad to see how we now import our trains rather than us building and exporting them. The skills this country has lost over the years have cost us dearly and made us so dependant on imports that often seem to be sub standard.

@userscott 4 месяца назад

People voted for the loss, let them have it.

@cedarcam 4 месяца назад

@@userscott They did, and in schools it was also Elf n Safety put an end to teaching skills like welding using acid pickle baths and foundry casting, all of which were taught in my school. When I went back years later to an open evening I found all the lathes milling machines and grinding machines were gone, my old teacher was there and said they no longer taught anything like in my day, now the focus is on robotics programming and the nearest they got to making anything was a key ring fob from Perspex. By doing that is has made school leavers look for jobs other than in heavy engineering.

@johndonaldson3619 5 месяцев назад

I was at BREL Glasgow in '81 with 3500 others .....it was all gone by 86 - I went to Australia...never went back

@user-qb8wb5wx5w 5 месяцев назад

Probably The Best Move U Ever Made,,👍

@MrDodgedollar 5 месяцев назад

Great era to learn Engineering

@royfontaine5526 5 месяцев назад

My, we really have gone down the toilet over the last few decades. So much forward thinking, way back then. Look at us now. 😢

@robd2184 6 месяцев назад

I love the lady holding her own !

@NetExperienceChannel 5 месяцев назад

That's Ann Durrant, I was part of the intake with her (Huw Rees) and I recognize all the other guys too. Yes, Ann could definitely "hold her own" and then some!

@Iron_Lion_Of_Zion 5 месяцев назад

I have been at BREL for 52 years now. Man, & boy.

@stephenbagwell8275 5 месяцев назад

I visited Horwich Works and there was a Bury line Class 504 unit in as well as those from Southern Region

@user-uc8kr1pl6b 5 месяцев назад

I used to love going to Horwich works open days, sadly gone. Now, like nearly all sites like this, its a housing estate.

@keithammleter3824 5 месяцев назад

Drawing office looks pretty old-fashioned. the company I worked for in 1981 had fully changed to computer aided design, and had spent a lot of money digitising old pen-and-paper drawings. There was not a single drafting table in the whole place - only UNIX workstations.

@conradknightsocksknight1590 5 месяцев назад

0:43 arc eye

@stewartellinson8846 5 месяцев назад

A very sad film, looking at an organisation on the verge of decimation. People going into something that they didn't know would be dismantled and closed within two decades. A worldwide reputation wasted by a government that knew the price of everything and the value of nothing.

@johnathanryan2117 5 месяцев назад

A whacking great housing estate at the back of a football ground and retail park is pretty much whats there now at Horwich.

@31144 5 месяцев назад

These trades have all but disappeared, we've nothing left, literally.... try getting a decent centre lathe turner or a welder fabricator, no one is coming through and haven't been for decades, our heavy industrial engineering industry is no existent and soon we won't even be able to make our own steel .... and why ? Because everything has been sold and privatised, our core industries should NEVER have been sold, it's an utter disgrace

@stokes8762 5 месяцев назад

Our industry has been 'suicided'

@mandywithell 5 месяцев назад

Sad thing is critical industries destroyed or in the hands of foreign companies that have, or will have in future, us by the short and c.............

@TheBez1965 5 месяцев назад

It’s being turned into a massive housing estate

@macky4074 5 месяцев назад

Don't worry, we now have really good barista's!

@31144 5 месяцев назад

No jobs but great coffee Macky 🤣🤣

@QuoPaperPlane 5 месяцев назад

That voice over is very familiar and I can't remember where I've heard him before. No doubt a regular through the 70s and before.

@nkt1 5 месяцев назад

Sounds like Gary Watson.

@QuoPaperPlane 5 месяцев назад

@@nkt1 I've looked up Gary Watson as I have some old recordings with him in Public Eye and Callan and it's not his voice. Whoever it is did some voice overs for TV commercials and public informational broadcasts but I can't recollect which ones. It's really nagging me now you've mentioned it.

@nkt1 5 месяцев назад

@@QuoPaperPlane He sounds similar, although not identical, to the narration on the Class 43 rescue/coupling film, which I'm fairly sure is Watson.

@superbracey 5 месяцев назад

I think it's the voice behind Bill & Ben, The Daleks and the original Zippy in Rainbow - Peter Hawkins.

@QuoPaperPlane 5 месяцев назад

@@superbracey Did Peter Hawkins do the introduction voice over to Super Ted because that's the voice. I'll do a search but if you beat me to it, can you let me know?

@jamesbeckwith3639 Год назад

This seemed to be more about Horwich and BREL in general than Swindon

@jupieterr Год назад

That's what I've been thinking recently too, thank you, I'll change the title lol

@Richard-pe4cx 4 месяца назад

these were jobs with skills you could use throughout your working life jobs that would have enabled to raise a family and buy your own home every one of those jobs supported many other firms who supplied stuff not just the local shops so sad to think we can only offer such a limited future to are youngsters

@anthonycrompton6922 5 месяцев назад

0.36 Crewe Works

@DOCTORDROTT 5 месяцев назад

He worked for MacDonalds as a chip frier, then decided to become a manager on the railways .

@stevenweasel2678 5 месяцев назад

@user-qb8wb5wx5w 5 месяцев назад

What Went Wrong,,,,,SOLD DOWN THE RIVER,,,,,,,,,ENGLAND SINKING🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

@stewartellinson8846 5 месяцев назад

don't vote tory. Simple

@keithammleter3824 5 месяцев назад

What went wrong? Three things:- # a government that meddles in industry, taking over and forcing mergers; # rotten British quality; # unions with a them-and-us conflict attitude.

@paulbarber1960 5 месяцев назад

6th richest nation, we've just changed to a more service country. We've allowed other countries to take over the dirty dangerous jobs that the british public won't do anymore.

@malthusXIII-fo3ep 5 месяцев назад

@@stewartellinson8846 Blair and New Labour wrecked the UK with diversity...which we never voted for.

@stewartellinson8846 5 месяцев назад

@@malthusXIII-fo3ep pillock. Diversity is an inherent fact of human existence.

@fatwalletboy2 Год назад

Wonder how those students faired? Are they all still on the railway?

@valentaman Год назад

A quick search shows Chris Shepperd ended up as a Director at what is now Bombardier. So not bad I'd say.

@Tenagor 5 месяцев назад

All did well, few stayed in Rail for long. This was an unusual year - probably an over-reach away from the engineer stereotype. An inquiry was held!

@howismadbuilersincinhugedebt. 5 месяцев назад

The greatest animal on the planet was Captain Sulzer and his exceedingly good diesel engines Napier's had a very small weight for their huge power output Rudyard Hull and his DMU😂😂😂

@Noahgamingguyandsonichero2194 5 месяцев назад

Any American Railfanners here?

@boxcatgames537 5 месяцев назад

>:( *steam lover anger build* LOOK AT THIS THIFEL THIS OILY WORKSERS LOOK AT THEM THEY REPLACED STEAM KIND AND THEY SAID IT WOULD BE THE FUTRUE

@mrglide7078 5 месяцев назад

In English please

@malthusXIII-fo3ep 5 месяцев назад

Why not just scrap these rot boxes and buy or build newer, better,..more reliable?

@bobtudbury8505 5 месяцев назад

and joining the eu killed all this

@teddansonLA 5 месяцев назад

Don't be silly. Horwich closed in 1983, the EU didn't exist until 1993.

@levelcrossing150 5 месяцев назад

@@teddansonLA But Ted Heath signed us up for the EEC in 1972 which became the EU in 1993.

@teddansonLA 5 месяцев назад

@@levelcrossing150 And so we both agree the original poster is confused. Of course the original poster wouldn't be able to explain how joining the EEC destroyed UK industry, because at some point he'd have to recognise the transformation of the UK from 1979 which mirrored what what happening in the USA under Reagan. So his point would still be silly.

@bobtudbury8505 5 месяцев назад

??? how abour the eec same beast different name , like the 1st division etc. joining the eu / eec whatever yawn killed all our industry as per policy @@teddansonLA

@stewartellinson8846 5 месяцев назад

No, the tories killed this. Even as this film was being made, BR was being chopped up into bits that could be sold off - by the Major government - to their mates. then they decided it was cheaper elsewhere. The EU has never had any impact on the UK's engineering but the tories destroyed it.