Necrons vs Death Guard Warhammer 40k 10th Edition Battle Report Ep 21 

The new Res Protocol and Orb rules are what got me most excited for this edition

They'll be doing points updates every 3 months, so expect it within 3 months.

@@christopherclayton5500 feel like they need more than points changes but it'll help. Just feels like nothing in the army does anything particularly well.

@@Blight02 Good news from the future, there is going to be a balance/points pass next week so might get lucky.

Really hope that GW do an emergency rebalance on 10e as a whole. It's really obvious that they shoved an unfinished ruleset out the door before testing it to meet a deadline.

@Blight02 I think it will take more than points to be enjoyable, but not more than points to be balanced, if that makes sense?

Hey Ryan, I totally understand your point of view however... This DG list isn't competitive at all. I'm still running DG but I've changed my list. I'm running at least 2 X Crawlers, 2 X blightlord terminators and 2 X death shroud terminators. Keep with DG just shake it up a little!

My issue isn’t with the list but rather the functionality and synergy of the army. An optimised mono-DG list is severely outclassed by a competitive Eldar or GSC list. Personally, I’m going to play DG because I like the lore and aesthetic. I just disagree with the choices GW made on how they are represented on the tabletop for this new edition.

Ell he is from Iowa and the winters there suck glad I moved south couple years ago

I have an old lost and the damned army. I decided now was the time to turn it into a proper Death Guard army. I want to see if they're really that hard to play.

They are a great introductory army for new players to play AGAINST!

As a death guard player I can say that we are, at the very least, determined

You might even call them mentally ill (it's a joke I swear) I'm sure gw will at least try and figure out how to balance them and give them something good or at least fun and unique because apparently they aren't allowed to be durable anymore

Pro-tip: some of your plague marines might find employment in a CSM army, where Nurgle marked Legionnaires and Chosen and terminators have their upsides. You could be closer to a CSM army than you think, which has better Nurgle rules than straight up Nurgle marines (because Gdubs is durrrr).

Amen, quite a bit could use a drop. PBC, Helbrute, PMs, Poxxys.

My DG army got like 300-400 points cheaper with 10th edition. Have not played it yet though.

I'd have been using pox walkers, I think I'd have left the terminators at the house, and probably said bye to the tallyman and maybe used a squad or two of cultists. Maybe left mortarion at home for a couple more squads of marines.

My DG haven't changed much, points dropped almost exactly enough for an extra unit of Terminators

The points aren't so much the issue, IMO, as the datasheets we're paying for. I dont wanna run heaps of models, I dont want to run super killy units or models. I want to be hard to kill and just wear the enemy down. And we currently do... neither of those things haha.

I mean... u can also bring some demons.

@@Mastercio well been thinking about that for my army, though without the warhound :D

Or a few Brigands IF you can find any....

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Especially with those sus rolls from Luka 😂

@@D-Z321 - just the Luka the dice!

I think the tip is when learning DG: Don't bother

A bit of 8th sneaking back in.

@@stevens9625 no you had to do that in 8th as well, that's just a rules oversight in general.

Doesn't it have an invul?

Nope that was the doomstalker that got it. Boo. My some wiped mine turn two last night anyway... I got over eager and wanted his shots to badly.

How do you mean +1 from the RP Stratagem?

Even better, for 1CP you can get full re-roll to wound

@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 If you have a charakter with the enhancement for leading, then when using the undying legion strat you gain D3+1 "Reanimation Protocols and reanimates D3 wounds. When doing so, if a Necrons Character is leading your unit, your unit reanimates D3+1 wounds instead."

@@Dewoy1 Ah, I see nice.

​@@Dewoy1 what leader can take this? Because I don't see any of the leaders having this as an option

ikr the 4+ invulns he gives out is so good + once per game he just goes beast mode and likely wipes a unit from the table

​@@josephvaccariello4181That would be Orikan.

Dude I’m literally painting my szeras right now

if he didnt use the cp the land raider would prob be dead from the death beams hitting it

I feel your pain, I just started playing at the end of 9th and picked Death Guard.

@@Doylepointsminis dont worry i have faith in GW we WILL get a buff i mean look at the deathwatch combo they solved that junk in 24 hours XD

@@MARStheFORSAKEN I have faith! 😬

Don't worry plague brother! In casual/low-end competitive we fele pretty solid. Defintiely in need of a buff but you will have fun this edition!

I think the warriors and immortals are pretty close in their effectiveness me personally I use the warriors as cannon fodder at front of the battle while my overlord leads my immortals a little farther back just casually throwing 10 shots into other frontline units

Thin your paint too. The paint coats are so thick that it’s obscuring some of the model details. Just add a little water to thin… 😢

And didn't make Flayed ones take Battleshock after Plagueburster shot at them. Doh! We all do it mate, it's not the end of the world.

@@D-Z321 Sadly I didn't like an old paint scheme so most of these models are stripped and repainted and lost some details in the stripping process

You made the critical error or thinking that a DG stratagem could be good without some bizarre conditions on it :P

You're right, they have the "ignores cover" rule

He used it quite well this game

Not as big of an issue against Death Guard instead of infinite Dark Lance spam

Very much so

You're right, this is a mistake on their end. When you select a unit to fight, they must pile in, and they must end in base to base contact if possible. The lychguard were supposed to pile in fully

No, the rule says you can move each model that is not already in base contact, not that you must. If you do move a model, it must end closer to the closest enemy and in base contact if possible, but you can move as many or as few models in a unit as you choose.

Oh I found the answer. They fucked up and used the named character overlord datasheet from Combat Patrol that has leadership 4+. This poor DG player doesn't need the necrons to have even stronger rules than they already do.

I have a similar story to you. Decided to get back into Warhammer recently and chose DG as my army. Didn't buy 4,000 points worth, but did shell out a pretty penny for the OOP Forgeworld plague marine kits from eBay so that I could pad numbers of my squads out a bit (I don't want repeat models in my army list). The 10th edition has scuppered my plans. I could spend time and effort converting the models and painting them, but then again, I don't want to risk having all my work wasted if anything changes with DG in the future, like, for instance, if their weapon upgrades no longer become free. The project has been put on hold, despite me spending a, quite frankly, unnecessary amount of money on DG shite. Looks like I'm starting a Seraphon army until GW pulls their finger out.

Hey man, don't despair! I started in the previous edition and I chose Necrons. We weren't hot at all but I still enjoyed my games and most importantly my models. Thing is, most of the time you gonna play with friends and chill people (at least you should!) so whatever the hyper-competitive people tell you on the internet doesn't matter. You can also play with homebrew rules if you feel like it. Most people want to have fun and if DG really is bad they'll let you bring extra units to counter balance or give you some sort of advantage (unified FNP6 for everyone or similar). Don't let the meta and people on the internet ruin your fun. I truly believe that metachasing is highway to regret. And even then, the meta changes all the time. Maybe Dg gets a glow up in their codex. Maybe they drop their points soon. I hope you find your enjoyment in the game and in your dudes. DG is pretty cool. I have a second army with AdMech so I'm in a similar situation than you. And I have zero problem with this. I still think AdMech looks cool. I'm still gonna have fun by painting them. I hope you have a nice day! PS: and don't forget that a lot of people will sell their minis. Here's a prime time to get cheap models you love!

By the time you finish painting them, DG should get buffed. Don’t distress. You can always compensate with custom house rules as another commenter said

I really wanted too

IMO it's just the D3 / D3+1 from the Stratagem plus additional D3 from the Reanimator if nearby. D6/D3+3 only in command phases

Towering units can see and be seen through ruins now

You are right in principle, BUT... the Monolith has the "Towering" keyword. Aircraft and towering models use true line of sight even if there's terrain feature between them. That goes for both sides, so in turn itself can also be seen behind terrain if there is line of sight

Also oddly enough if a model is partially within a ruin they can't see through it but can be see in it. The worst option. Never do this unless you absolutely have to.

Thanks for clarification ya'll :)

It mentions going back into reserves before you put them back on the table for the purpose of the enemy being able to use the Overwatch Stratagem against anything coming out of the Monolith!

​@@lukapavicevic335 Thanks Luka, that makes sense mate!