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For a long time, the SR-15 has got to be one of the most appealing rifle to my eyes. If I bought one I wouldn't really be flexing on the poors, because then I'd be living off ramen noodles and rainwater for the next 8 months...
DD is nice, light, and easily recognized. I was at a gun show and every time I saw that DD stock and grips, I'd stop to look at it. DD all day every day
Also, I saw one of the FDE KAC SR-15 E3 MOD 2's at my LGS some time back.. and tbh, the 'cerakote' they use seems to be absolute crap. It just looked cheaply done (the cerakote/paint job). Some areas the paint was actually appeared to be flaking away, like around the takedown pins, and trigger pins. Just doesn't seem right for a rifle that is going to cost $3.5k.. new. They come from KAC this way.. They also had a Taupe SR-15 that was properly cerakoted. Only the receivers and handguard had the taupe cerakote, unlike the FDE which had overspray everywhere. On the Taupe SR-15, the hardware/parts were still the black anodized color, etc.. Kinda weird.
I own both…V7 Pro, MK18, and 14.5 KAC. I can’t say much about the Cerakote since mine KAC is black, but my DD V7 Pro Rattlecan Cerakote is pristine. As far as functionality, I’ll take the KAC Recce setup 100% of the time. The gas system is flawless running suppressed and unsuppressed. Both are great, but one is the clear winner.
I’m afraid I would go with the DD just because of parts interchangeability, while the internal parts of the KAC might last a little longer than what the internal parts of the DD will that is just the whole problem all of the parts on the KAC are completely proprietary, the barrel on the DD should be good for roughly around 40,000 rounds so I would say your barrel life on the DD would probably slightly outlast the KAC because the barrel life on the KAC should be good for about 25,000 ish rounds but a lot of people have said that the bolt carrier on the KAC is good for around 20,000 rounds. You won’t get nowhere near that from the bolt carrier with the DD but you can always just slap another mil spec bolt carrier in the DD unfortunately you can’t just up and do that with the KAC because it’s completely proprietary and these are the reasons why I would go with the DD over the KAC, sorry I didn’t mean to write a book, lol, just wanted to give a good explanation why I chose the DD over the KAC
Hey man, some times you gotta write a book. Seriously though, good explanation. There are parts of each rifle that have their benefits, but the DD has more longterm benefits at $1,000 less. That KAC is such a smooth shooter tho.
Just the answers I was looking for! Thank you very much for your book, much appreciated! It’s interesting how they clearly try to serve different type of markets and philosophy. I do hate how some companies try to lock in their products to just work in their “ecosystem” Apple! So in this case a brand to have and follow will be DD.
@@d0uble_O it’s not an ar-15 that’s the reason its propriety because everything works together in harmony. I don’t have one but that’s the reason I want one. Plus look at the logo it’s so cool looking. Lol I made the mistake not to get one at my local rifle gear when they had them in stock and I got the lwrc instead and I have regretted it for years now. Lol
I don't understand why someone wants too pay that much for a paint job that looks like it was done in the garage. Cheap furniture proprietary parts etc. I would take that DD and use the extra money to buy spare parts, upgrade the trigger and such. If you know your way around a rifle you don't need such an over priced hyped up brand of a rifle.
For some reason I think the ddm4v7 is the best because I seen it get run over by a car, I've seen it, get shot with the 12 gauge and still work. I also Saw it get left in mud for a day once and somehow it still worked.
I own an m4v7, and I've shot my buddies kac and it is definitely heads and shoulders better in recoil impulse and overall shooting feel. The gas system is tuned way better.
Well said sir. I'm gonna get in touch with their customer service and go down that rabbit hole. For what they charge, the cerakote is very disappointing.
I have an addiction. I buy a lot of rifles. I have battle rifles in 556 from KAC, LMT, HK, BGD, ADM, POF, BCM, DD, LWRCI, SCAR, and Radian. If I could chose only one it’s KAC BABY…all day, every day, and twice on Sunday! The KAC is one of the softest shooting rifles on the market with a precisely gassed castle nut system. The E3 bolt is a major advancement for longevity with rounded lugs, a thinner cam pin with thicker bolt web, and a lobster tailed two spring extractor. All are common failure points on bolts and represent areas of significant advancement. The KAC stands for creamy mama jama smooth butter sweetness.
In my opinion the dd just looks much better let alone the stock it looks very unique with the rubber pattern on it and not to mention this badass brownish bronze color finish.
I bought a KAC Mod 2 14.5. I will say it is the best rifle Ive ever shot. I did put a Vltor A5 - H2 Buffer with it and it just goes. After machine gunning the trigger and it stayed on target I was blown away. Very soft shooting and a nail driver with 75gr 5.56. At this point Im not really looking to buy another rifle for now.
I own a DDM4 V7 and it has been an amazing rifle for me, personally. Although I have been thinking about replacing the charging handle. Would love to hear opinions on a better one.
This must be an Emperor's new clothes type of situation? There is NOTHING sexy about that SR15; even after your upgrades. And that Cerakote job is TRASH, inside and out. I can't think of a top tier AR that looks worse than the SR15; but when the Emperor drops that kind of coin to impress people, it's hard to convince him that he is butt naked. I would take Daniel Defense, an LMT, an LWRC, an H&K, a Radian Model 1 or a Barrett over the Knight's, any day.
I really bought it the second fed ex dropped it off st the gun shop and bought it without looking it over too much, cuz it's a Knights. I was underwhelmed when u started looking it over. It's still the sweetest shooting rifle in the safe, it's just not the prettiest. Lol
I'm blown away at that cerakote job by kac. If you can't even do that right....I dunno but my Ddm4 in mil spec + looks just as crisp as yours. DD takes pride in every step of the process. I guess KAC not so much.....
Yeah.. that cerakote job is kinda shoddy. LGS that I frequent here locally has the taupe SR-15 and it looks just like the one shown in this vid. There were spots where the cerakote was cracked and flaking off as well. If you pay that much for a KAC, you would expect much better.. I guess they take the rifle being a 'tool' a little too literally.
Yup. I'm of the opinion that if Daniel Defense do a bang up job of cerakoting their rifle for 2k, then KAC should be able to do it for 3k. Somewhat disappointing.
the DD looks a lot better no over spray just bad paint quality on the knights armament if i am going to paying that much i want it to be perfect DD for me
KAC has a cool past what with having Eugene Stoner do some of his last work and all but having proprietary parts on an AR platform should be a thing you get tied to a pole and lashed for. Proprietary tools to remove the muzzle device, barrel and upper? Tied and burned, absolutely sickening. Their SR-25 seems cool though being a sniper grade battle rifle and all. Also their QC could use some serious work for a 2gucci4u weapon in terms of what you pay
The biggest complaint about KAC that I see people make is that “tHeIr pArTS aRe pRopRiEtARy”, this is most likely a coping mechanism for the price of the rifle. If the price of the rifle hurts you then there is no way you are gonna put 20,000 rounds through a rifle anyways! So what do you have to worry about! Even let’s say you put 20,000 rounds through it, you see some accuracy changes, you send it back to KAC and they will take care of you. And if you are worried about that not being an option for some reason….buy one to moth ball. KAC is king. period.
DD All day and twice on Sundays! The cerakote job on the Knights is absolute garbage. It looks to me as the Cerakote job was an afterthought compared to the Daniel Defense. Also I happen to like the furniture on the DD! Now a better comparison would be my new DD4 RIII compared to the Knights since they are both fully Ambi.
Bought Daniel defense complete upper from Primary Arms for 1000 bucks. Put an arrow precision lower and changed out the pistol grip to a B5 got about 1300 into the rifle.
I know right?!? I got it from the gun shop I work at occasionally and the shipping address on the box was from Knights factory, it was brand new. Pretty unacceptable, and I still bought It cuz of how rare they are.
Aaaand here’s the inevitable “just as good” comment lol. Go shoot higher tier guns and the difference is pretty clear. I own both. I’m not about to sell any of my over-$2000 guns to buy two $1000 guns. And there’s a reason why.
@@slowmo7500 I agree that the higher tier AR15s look, feel, and are overall put together better and the differences are noticeable. However, 90% of shooters will be just fine with low tier models. You could argue "would you want to depend your life on a budget Rifle?" but for some, that's their budget. Some people aren't heavy into firearms and simply want something that functions and works with no frills needed. I believe the original comment was just stating the M&P Sport 2 does everything he needs and doesn't see the need the spend more on a KAC or DD. I don't think he was saying his M&P was "just as good" but merely saying it was good enough for him.
No contest, kac all day everyday, Daniel makes a nice gun and all but it’s a common brand for the most part especially the dd m4 (v) series they are big box store guns I wouldn’t even consider them a ultra premium gun.Not to mention their garbage boot licking stance on our rights. Knights is just better, just the history of the brand alone is legendary shit. They are the best of the best the only brand even remotely close is noveske. Also I’m almost positive knights is still duracoating the taupe guns and only the certain things are cerakoted,they are ment to be run and run hard if you need aesthicly perfect get a radian, knights are ment to be unstoppable.
Agreed. There's a definite difference in Knights coating, so I'm pretty sure it's duracoat. Luckily , the anesthetics are secondary, cuz that mofo shoots like a DREAM!
I just feel like if you don’t know what a KAC is you won’t really be flexing cus they tend to just look like a normal AR. Everyone recognizes the DD especially the poor lol but I have both and my favorite Daniel is the mk18 and their m4a1 RIS 2 rail cus that mf is indestructible. I have over 5,000 rounds suppressed and about 19000 rounds total. No parts replaced. Accuracy is still MOA no longer sub MOA like when I first bought it. But just gone the distance. And I’ve ran it with a full auto colt lower and it runs AMAZING. So does my KAC MOD 2 but idk. Something about the Daniel I just no matter what I run even steel case that fucker going to spit them out with no issues. My KAC can’t run steel case. (I only bought it because it was an accident I never run steel case) but the Daniel can run steel with no hiccups.
I have the M4 V7. So-I do not want to be biased here. I am astonished by the utter, absolute quality of both rifles. Knights is well... Knights. I can't really think of much better. I think, personally you cannot go wrong with either of these. They are beautiful, extremely high quality and most importantly-reliable firearms.. I just like DD's customer service & lifetime guarantee. I could go on and on but, alas-my opinion is either one is going to simply fuck.
Geissele makes the best sub $1,000 complete upper imo if you're looking to flex on some poors on a budget. $500 for a well equipped lower and pop on a higher tier upper and you're good. Honestly, I've tried and own a lot of decent uppers/complete ARs like ADM, PWS, DD, Geissele, Radian, Cobalt, Type A, and Triarc and they're typically pretty good but expensive. ADM, Geissele and Type A are probably my favorites for the price... back when when you could get a Type A contractor for $1,800
If you judge a battle rifle by its looks, furniture and overspray of its paint job or even have to consider between the two you’ll better off buying an airsoft rifle you’ll get the same response from your girlfriends when showing it off. Better yet stick with playing COD you’re an asset to community. SR15/16 is a tool for professionals that gets the job done reliably with no room for failure, nothing else matters especially BS opinions
Wow... it's like you know my soul. We should be friends. If I spend 3k on a rifle, I have the right to expect the cerakote (or in this case duracoat) to not be total shit. It can be a top tier tool, and also exhibit quality craftsmanship simultaneously.
DD M4 V7 all day long, I have 2 of these and they are very sweet shooters! The cerakote job on the KAC looks like some kid rattle canned it, looks like. VERY BAD spray paint job. For the money they want it should be top tier and its not
All these GUCCI guns and stupidly unnecessary upgrades are going to give you ZERO edge over someone with a $1000 rig and proper training. Would it matter to ANYONE that whilst in the Army in 1987-1995 I was making headshots in the 3D "Ivan" pop up targets at 300 yards with nothing more than a ragged out Vietnam era M-16, iron sights and cheap GI ball ammo? Can you bring yourselves for one moment to see the ridiculousness in these expenditures when you should be stockpiling ammo??? The average, AVERAGE being the operative word in this conversation, AR owner and enthusiast should be spending no more than $1300 for an entire battle ready rig. Every day I am growing increasingly more convinced that these guntubers pushing the Gucci shit are getting kickbacks from these after market parts manufacturers.
Bro, I have 8000 subscribers..... I'm not getting shit kicked back to me. I just like high end guns. I stockpile ammo as well. The judgement without knowing me feels a tad unnecessary friend. 😕
Flex on the poors...LOL. I guess i'm somewhere in the middle of the road .... Yeah, I have a few nicer rifle like the V7's, but do appreciate a nice shooting, well built rifle in a less expensive price range, Like a S&W, Ruger, Windham, RRA, Savage etc... I have to laugh a little knowing some of these youtube-social media dipshits will frown upon owning such lowly brands like I mentioned above, but many of them wouldn't know a good rifle if it jumped up and smacked them in the sack. Great video, keep em coming.
Love it man. I'm a bit of a gun snob, no doubt, but my favorite rig is my Ruger AR556. I'm glad to know that the fact I was kidding came through in the video.
