Cheers for this, I been tryin to find out about "does astrology work for marriage" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Peyoraan Aristocratic Preponderance - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now )? It is a good one off guide for discovering how to find out your lucky day to win big in life using this astrology based system minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got excellent success with it.
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Lip given we know little to nothing about consciousness I wouldn’t say science can claim that the gravitational field of different astrological bodies don’t have an impact on someone’s personality. I’m not all bought in, I very much believe that our experiences shape us more than other, but I do believe it’s possible that astrology leaves a footprint of a framework for how you organize your experiences
That's stupid. Astrologers are not psychics, if you want your deeper personality/characteristics "read" an astrologer would need to know your exact date of birth and where you were born. His comment only illustrates he hasn't even bothered looking into what an astrologer does, and how. or what astrology is for that matter.
@@rustneversleeps85 alright first of all I saw many student that went to study astrology most of them enjoy looking at it online but later they got interested in it soo they decided to studied it but after 4 months they abandoned the subject because it doesn’t even make any sense confuse as shit.Those are my bff they’re all female why tf did you even tell us this ? It already had been proven false many times and you astrologer retreat and said astrology is not science anymore but first you argue that astrology is science don’t make me laugh what a pity idiot you are
I love how he probably hates such non-scientific bs, yet explains everything with detailed answers, while also including the listening party and making them an active part of the conversation. This is truly inspiring. I assume he likes and respects every individual by default
@@aleksandrosofficial You don't have to believe it. It's not a religion with a preset dogma. It is a system with which you can or cannot relate depending upon your personal desires.
@@mamarama5174 His explanation was completely logical, you two just aren't smart enough to understand what he's saying. That humans are egocentric and sometimes see patterns that aren't existent, like the arrangement of stars in the sky having any impact on a person, because we think we're special and the universe is all about us when the truth is we're just another species on Earth and the universe will carry on fine as it did, since the beginning of time, even if we went extinct.
@@slothmanjay5029 Just the opposite of astrology in believing that "we're special" and the "universe is all abt us". It shows that we are all inter-connected to everything around us. There is a "fixed" place for ALL the planets and stars and its never-ending. So you are just not smart enough to understand astrology and thats why you have a problem with it. Science cant explain anything about how it all began with proof, just their OPINION. Besides that what does whether we became extinct (or how many species there are) have to do with ANYTHING?
EVERY TIME!!!! I’ve gotten my natal chart read 4 different times and it’s something different each time. There’s no cohesiveness or consistency with the reading. One person tells you that this means this while the other person tells you that this means that and this person over here tells you something completely different from the other two ppl-a pseudoscientific madness
how do u know you getting read by an actual astrologer? and astrology and numerology is way bigger than predicting how your gonna be feeling next tuesday and personality trait. its god's divine plan
I like the way Tyson approached this. Scientists are given a bad name because stereotypically they’re patronising and act like they know everything, steamrolling over other’s beliefs without any thought or feeling, but the way Tyson gently explained why astrology is false according to science is the way these debates should be carried out, rather than extreme condescension and condemnation of the opposition.
Most scientists build ego and structured limitations therefore disallowing them to tap into the true knowledge of time. This video is cringe due to the fact we are all the center of our own universe in the sense it's all just a reflection of your internal state and process. No coincidences or luck or randomness or narcissism. They are an impossibility. Astrology is not just real it's fundamental to the diverse range of consciousness necessary to strive forward in creation. This garbage is perpetuated to build the barriers in people's mind and keep perception at a ruined state of function. It will all be known soon tho. ✌
@andres barriga. go read my comment on your reply to me. Exactly what do you think alchemy is? if chemist are putting two or more substances together to see what kind of reaction they give or what 3rd or more substance comes of this is Alchemy duh?!?! All chemistry is alchemy and alchemy is not just a physical thing. you do alchemy everyday between your thoughts and your feelings to produce. How about having a baby with someone. Sex is alchemy because tow bodies come together to create a third. what do you think a fetus is doing in the womb? LOSTNESS. everybody lost because you have been put in a magic square by those that actually know the truth. Astrology is real and they use it everyday to brain wash you. otherwise why do we have holidays at certain astrological dates i.e Xmas. Easter. Why do the Jews celebrate passover the 1st full moon once the sun goes 1 degree over the equator. i.e Spring? the sun passing over the equator (Passover) they give meaning and rituals to this i.e Astrology.
@Animesucks cum what a silly comment. Yes physical sex doesn't always end up with a pregnancy but there are many forms of sex: mental, emotional, and physical. Sex is the joining of 2 energies to create a 3rd. You have an idea and you mix it with someone else's idea and you both create a 3rd. Throwing insults doesn't change it and if you look at the animal kingdom animals have sex to procreate because we don't doesn't mean that's not the primary reason for it. Dumbass
@Animesucks cum you obviously don't know much about life or alchemy. Best to sit this one out. Are we not energetic beings. Find me someone alive who has no energy.
@Animesucks cum okay so now you're lost in Language, Logic, Linguistics, L's. I never said sex always creates a third person, even though it does otherwise how else did you get here? when two energies come together they create a third. it's that simple don't get lost in all them L's. that's basic alchemy that's basic chemistry. don't get lost in google definitions. that just shows you have no mind of your own. seriously having to google what Sex is???? and by energies i mean energy i never mentioned people. again sex is not just a physical thing. I broke down the esoteric meaning of sex two energies coming together to make a third. what you are trying to do is take what i am saying spiritually and basing it purely on the physical. I mentioned alchemy and life because i was responding to the post which mentions alchemy and chemistry. Why the fuck you commenting for if not about that? You say Astrology is not real yet you clearly know nothing about it so where are you basing this off of? oh yh that's right, someone else's interpretation of astrology and their conclusions as to why it's fake. if that ain't being lost and a dumbass then what is. Do you use your own mind or is google and others opinion your mind? the world is lost. even your handle is dumb, what are you 12 years old? Learn astrology then come back and say it's fake otherwise shut the fuck up and stay in your lane.
Modern science is defined by its refusal to explore certain things, including astrology. Please note, astrologers have been predicting that 2020 would be monumental, for years.
@@ssppaarrkkyy what make you think that ? 😂 and second smart people don’t call themselves smart and third smart people will never believe in this kind of shit called astrology
Isn't it possible that astrology is based on gravitational forces? The moon drags the oceans. We're made mostly of water. Is it not possible that gravitational forces affect us, both at birth and throughout our lives? When I was at UC Berkeley in 1970, I was friends with a young guy who wanted to become a professional astrologer. We did an experiment for him to practice . I was going home for Christmas and arranged for a get together. All those attending gave me the date, the time of day and the city/state of their birth. He said that was all he needed to do a basic natal chart. He explained that a natal chart would describe with accuracy the personality of the subject. There were 8 of us going to be there. We all knew each other. The 8 charts did not have names, nor any of the date/time/location identifiers. I handed them out at random. As people read the chart, they started saying "Oh, I got yours". Each of the 8 persons correctly handed the chart they were reading to the person it belonged to. Were there incorrect assertions and other errors? Of course. But there was no denying the identity of each persons chart. I've never been a New Age kind of guy, and have never used astrology to guide my life. But I do not dismiss it entirely. I think you'd go broke trying to go full Nancy Regan, and base investments or public policy on the stars. But in very general terms I think it's useful. For example, my 3 ex-wives all agreed that even though I was born in late September, I was born under the sign of Feces.
If it was real it would’ve been empirically proven. Instead, it’s been disproven thousands of times with a thousand different methods. So your once in a lifetime coincidental experience is not science.
When I was young I was naive, innocent did not know how to question, as I get older and a parent, I realise allot of our personality our traits don't come from the stars, universe, God or whatever it comes from our childhoods how we were raised our environments (tv, pop culture, Home) our caregivers, how we were treated the trick is to unlearn what wasnt helpful and embrace the parts that helps or evolve them and learn new things, easier said than done the process is always tougher than awareness As Neil said it best our egos think Mars cares about us, that should say it all. Love this guy.
And yet a natal chart can tell you what your childhood would play out. Mars does not care what it does to us. That does not mean we cannot feel its effect.
Most scientists build ego and structured limitations therefore disallowing them to tap into the true knowledge of time. This video is cringe due to the fact we are all the center of our own universe in the sense it's all just a reflection of your internal state and process. No coincidences or luck or randomness or narcissism. They are an impossibility. Astrology is not just real it's fundamental to the diverse range of consciousness necessary to strive forward in creation. This garbage is perpetuated to build the barriers in people's mind and keep perception at a ruined state of function. It will all be known soon tho. ✌
The Lex Apollo whats mathematical about what some people saw a couple hundred years ago when they looked at stars and formed lines in between them. Whats mathematical about forcing an earthly object to appear in stars cause you want it to so badly. Trillions of stars in trillions of directions makes it kinda easy to draw anything you want in between doesnt it. Its been navigation but besides that youd have to prove to me how stars hundreds of lightyears away from us have anything to do with math
You all are lost. The minute you go outside and look up and see the sun, you looking at astrology. If you look at watch and tell the time, you looking at astrology, if you say summer, winter, Spring, and fall, you looking at astrology, if you celebrate Easter, Xmas etc you looking at astrology, Neil Degreasse Tyson is talking shit. The bible is pure astrology.
@@fizzabatool2490 lol you call pseudoscience but I can go outside and show you what I'm talking about. It's easy to call astrology pseudoscience when you don't understand it or you listen to those talk about it that obvs don't understand it or want too. You think the ancients who were much smarter than us (see pyramids) where that dumb to just look at the stars and build monuments to them for No reason. Science today is never right it's all theory and NDT opinion is just that. Opinion. Learn astrology and you'll see. Remember science once said the earth was flat. Also said the sun revolved around the earth. The scientific method? What makes you think that it is correct?
Believing in Astrology also keeps people's minds off the fact that there really is a much more immediate, organized systemic oppression all around us--it's not the stars that draw your fate, it's the people who had a huge head start in life due to inherited wealth, who understood political & power structures long before your immigrant / impoverished self could lift your head out of water to figure it out.
The same people who do not want you to study astrology/make you think it's a fortune telling tool astrology is a tool to help you understand your purpose and your soul
I love this guy. He's absolutely astonishing explananing science and helping me to understand stuff that otherwise I wouldn't. The thing is: any conversation I hear from him regarding anything else than science makes me believe that he knows nothing outside of it.
Everything in western culture has to end with being connected to a person, hence Mr. Tyson thinks astrology was for fulfilling ego. Interesting how he assumed this premise and his depth of understanding is proven very shallow
I can’t believe I used to think he was a brilliant man. He has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. He acts like everything he knows didn’t come from astrologers. Astrologers, astronomers, mathematicians, philosophers, and a lot of the time doctors. were all one field at one time. And he acts like humans went from ignorant to what we have now. There isn’t a single person alive today that could do what Ptolemy did. With all our gadgets and technology they still knew more than we do so to say they were ignorant enough to make seasonal correlations about health is f-being ridiculous.
Gadgets have made us dumber as a whole. We've been desensitized. People can't even remember numbers anymore because we don't have to remember phone numbers. People can't navigate without GPS. It's well researched that the more you depend on external tech, the less function we have internally.
Extremism is the same all over... be it science or religion or whatever... They don't know what they don't know... One day science will prove much of what is considering "meta-physics"...
Christofred Garcia-Estrada I think it's a good oportunity, a lot of people still believes that those are the same field and that astrology has scientific bases
My take on this is that there is surely much that isn’t yet known on the effects of planets, orbits, etc… because we might not have the correct tools or approach or ressources put in to understanding this but when you look at « real » astrology which takes into account time and location of birth, it shows that everyone has a unique astrological setup. Taking into account planets and cosmic bodies that take centuries to orbit the sun, others that orbit multiple times a year, their interaction between each other, etc… you can imagine that this much have at least some impact, whether in terms of energy or gravitation or something else (I’m definitely not an astronomist or astrophysicist). But it is interesting when you take « pro software » and see every transit taking effect at one given moment, and see that there are general trends during pretty precise periods and when I look at this for people around me it seems to be pretty on par on those « nothing is going right regardless of my efforts » periods and « somehow everything is just clicking ». It won’t tell you your future but it seems to describe your current « atmosphere » surrounding you. There are long phases that are super challenging and that you have to survive through with brief « positive » transits that let you breathe and the opposite at other moments. I’d really like there to be a sort of scientific explanation one day on this « ancient art ». But people relying on « Daily horoscopes » based on just a star sign is definitely not reliable and it doesn’t serve the « art » 😅
@RainbowFarmer if Neil studied astrology and still thinks it's nonsense then i would respect him , and the same with u too but unfortunately that's not the scenario ,so no point in wasting time
We do have a scientific explanation, astrology is bs, simple as that. What you've described is cognitive bias, where people cherry-pick evidence. Yes planets do have an effect on us gravitationally, however in physics we can use formulas to calculate the strength of forces acting on an object, the forces planets have on us are so insignificant compared to the house that you live in that it is absurd to suggest they influence us in any way.
Right so the moon doesn’t control the tides nor the liquid in my brain ? And like he said himself depending on the time of the month, I could be different from someone else health wise.. I could’ve swore mental and psychological issues would be the result of those differences.
the comment section displays that anything said by a man is scientific and always true (yes I know he is a scientist but absolutely nothing of what is said in this video is scientific or factual)
I don't know what to believe but I know that zodiac and astrology would explain a Creator's diagram or a creators guide on like what controls the madness and keeps parameters and that way there is a way to organize things or a system of laws to keep creating the same basic flow of your creation if there is a creator... Anyone who can elaborate or add to my sleep deprived explaining or way of it making Sense.. theorized not saying it's true just how it could be
All people who have these anti- astrology ideas most likely have never studied it. And it probably is suggested in their charts. 😁 It is what it is. We know there has to be this balance or else there would be no mysteries. Jus Sayin'
Let's take his words - seasons, corresponding nutrition, are a plausible reason to assert the astrological findings. It is incorrect to say it has nothing to do with positions of the planets. Seasons are literally based on the position of our planet relative to the sun. Boom astrology
@@mazaltawab9360 You don't really need an equation. Just an explanation of how one affects the other. I feel like saying space and time is too broad to give any merit.
My wife and I recently saw him give a talk in Oakland....brilliant and very engaging man with a great sense of humor. Of course, he spent some time in his youth with the great Carl Sagan, so I wouldn't expect anything less.
All I know is I'm a Pisces and I'm a dreamer and extremely creative and artistic and want to fix everyone and my husband is a virgo and wants to fix everything and is very neat and critical. We fit our signs to a T. Yes, some of the traits can fit everyone but not everyone is artistic and creative. And not everyone is a neat freak and critical. We tick of all the boxes for our signs. I just find it odd. I don't think it totally defines you or you should live your life by it... But it is interesting Science tells us everything is connected and gravity effects us, we knows that. We also know plants and the sun and moon effect the earth. We are beings of the earth so why isn't it possible somewhere in our cells that make us those bodies had an affect. Just something to think about.
Your signs are literally not your signs. The earth has shifted in axis so where the sun was when you were born was based on something 2000 years ago. Please continue your cognitive dissonance.
It might...newborn children are sensitive...if you get a disease since when you were a newborn or a few months child you're likely to have that disease for a long ass time
I respect the science and how much data we have recorded and how we use that data as tools to navigate life. But I do find it hard to believe that planets bend matter and pull things into orbit around them and have effects on our earth and that the universe is riddle with patterns but we think we aren’t affected at all by that when everything around us is. I would say that’s egocentric. However it could be that since they navigated using the stars, when characteristic patterns were recognized in people they projected that to the stars as a way of mapping it out. Either way it’s pretty cool
Its late but i still reply to this : The planets and stars can bend matter and pull things in their orbits because they are literaally huge their gravity is unimaginable times bigger than that of every single human being on our planet . They effect because of their gravity and we dont because of the same reason .
From a gravitational perspective everything does not influence you because of course stars dont revolve around you and also their effect on life on earth is near to zero (apart from the moon and sun). So i get where neil comes from, but, thats not the case of light. Light does ‘revolve’ around us from this perspective as if we were the center, and light doeas affect life, more that that, life was created because of the light and from it. Now going further from whats proven by science, what causes such complexity of evolution must not be the intensity of light but the information it carries at a quantum level, wich is a nature of light that cant yet be decoded (we just know wavelenghts and interpret the chemical source with an spectroscope). So doesnt matter how far away a planet is, it can have an effect on life here; by its very dim but whole light. I think its very possible.
As far as predicting your future, I think they really base it on the time you were born, the place you were born and your gender and they base it on the culture you grew up in and a list of probabilities. It's the zodiac accuracy of your personality that I want to understand.
It's a cold read and confirmation bias Usually the personality traits that are associated with your zodiac are extremely vague and kind so they do tend to be true and you can attribute them to yourself
There is actually some scientific correlation between your date of birth and temperament/personality traits. It isn't based on planets or stars but on the season in which you are born. Different temperatures and climate effects can affect us biologically, which makes much more sense on an empirical evidence level.
@@crassiewassie8354 I used to wonder about that but whenever I made a mistake and read the wrong aspect thinking it was about me I would feel off and wonder why it didn’t correspond to anything I know about myself. As soon as I correct it and read the right one it would resonate completely. Threw confirmation bias out the window for me after a few of those errors.
Here's science debunking its debunking while trying to debunk: The skeptics have already proven that astrology is real in a widely published, peer reviewed study. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6MQJWHR9USQ.html I'd love to see how Mr. DeGrasse Tyson deals with this revelation.
You can be interesting into that stuff but I don't think t's egocentric... The universe is not in any way 'about' us but it doesn't mean we can't utilize it to help us understand some stuff..?
Just because he calls Ms. Clarkson out on it, Mr. Tyson was born (if the internet is correct) on October 5, 1958, nine years later than the baseball and crime writer Bill James.
Astrology was used for mundane events before it became related to the natal interpretations. Also, the Universe "out there" is just a projection of your inner one. Read Jung, Gauquelin, Cristoff, then give your opinion.
I don't think astrology or numerology or palm reading,necessary has any significance.I want someone to leave something I believe that up to them, it's sort of like freedom of speech...I think people could say things that aren't true but I but I reserve the right for people to say what they want to sayper se ,or speak their mind.I also think that a book like the Bible or the Quran,is very different from something like astrology or palmistry....I don't put it in the same group...I guess what I'm trying to say is if someone believes in God they have the right to believe in God...and they may have their own reasons to believe in God...and it's not science...I mean not believing in kourend per se.but I think that people should have the right to believe in it...I may not worship a cow but people have a right to worship a cow...a religion is a lot different to me than say astrology...each religion is different anyway...spiritual stores have their own meaning,I do have a right to believe then however it may influence them or affect themor Inspire them...it's something that's not supposed to be science that's why it's faith.can have its own depth and that is up to individual not to scientists...there is it in between or scientist don't know anyways...
Believing in God and astrology do not have to be separate. Astrologers may want to separate themselves from Christianity's God and call God by another name, but it doesn't mean they don't believe in God.
There is no zodiac or astronomy without the sun so lets set this straight off jump. MAGNETISM is the energy that rules our universe and this dimension of material, time and space as we know it. Even down to the atom and molecular level, magnetism is the energy that allows each atom to spin and bind with other atoms to form solid structures though two atoms colliding together will naturally repell from one another creating heat as a by-product which is the law of friction and represents why we can't walk through walls or other solid structures because the wall would repell us from passing through it just as two ends of a magnet will naturally repell each other and cannot touch under natural causes. The sun or light is the life force of what we know as energy on every level and can't exist without magnetism. When you heat up a pot of cool water you will see the water begin to spin and boil. This is a great example of how magnetism works on a larger scale and on a smaller scale. As above so below. As the water boils in response to being in contact with heat so does the atom spin when in contact with heat or light. For example we know that magnetism or the gravity of the moons spin has a great influence on the ocean and its currents with colder water being more dense than the warmer waters which causes them to separate and the same is true for the wind currents and the density of air, the higher you go the thinner air becomes and the lower you go the more dense the air becomes. So in the same way the moon and sun has an influence on our bodies since we are 70% made of water. During birth our brain is very maluable and is influenced by the magnetism of the moon and sun which does have a influence on the child's personality and personal interests to some degree based on the spin position of each embryo's brain development in accordance to the spin position of the sun, moon and stars that pull on us and influence the nerve network of our brain structure and the spin patterns of our spinal fluids in our early development and becomes more prominent when the brain becomes more solid as the child ages. The nature of magnetism is to find a path of least resistance which is why planets are always round in shape including the planets orbit. In science we call this the fiboncci sequence but our ancestors knew this sequence thousands of years ago well before our time. Through out history wise men got together and maped out the heavens and converted there knowledge into stories to pass down to their kids from generation to generation which is how we got the zodiac stories but the science behind the zodiac has been almost lost but this is the truth. Eany leading scientist will agree with what I've written here.
Astrology is an ancient science! Planetary bodies does possess certain vibrations, which can have effects on Humans, according to Indian mythology stars , planets paths are predefined and there path of existence at a certain point of time can be determined, if a seed is drawn at a certain point of time then its upcoming timeline can be determined!
She is so annoying. She couldn’t wait to interrupt him over and over. He could have said a lot more interesting things; instead you hear her babble and repeat herself. I respect and honor this man greatly.
@@clyde1072 she's saying it's like asking an atheist about god or religion. Scientists will always mock astrology just like how religion prohibits their people from practicing it. This is the very why I'm very interested in astrology. It's not for everyone, some people do have some kind of special frequency to connect to other people through astrology. Astrology is not science but maybe that's a wrong way to say about it.
I would love him to have a conversation with certain Indian Gurus.. He's a brilliant scientist but has no idea what he is talking about when he talks about ego or astrology
“The Universe is not about you” …. and yet it created one of the most incredibly complex, adaptable, variable and resilient structures of nested systems ever perceived in all of the universe just for us to walk around and ask ourselves whether the Stars have any impact upon our lives 😆
The irony of this is how religious people tries to find a scientific argument of how astrology isn't real, and how scientists just calls it another religious belief.
@@oscarcampos3069 because back in those days the astrologers (not the name they went by) were studying natures before studying the stars. They were working out the elements, fire, water, air, earth and how they correspond to the body espterically. It was then that they started realising as above so below and studied the stars. all language, maths, and science was born out of studying the stars and the elements. If you learn about the monad and the 360 we live in and how the planets move, then you can make signs and siduals out of them. This is how we derived language and math and science. Even terms we use today are born out of this. But they did this on a spiritual level. Then western man started doing this on a physical level hence astronomy. What Neil is describing in this video is lostness 100. Not interested in names and titles, he knows astrology isn't fake because this world is run via astrology otherwise we wouldn't have a calender or tell time the way we do. We base our calender on a year. The year it takes the sun to do a rotation. That's astronomy, but before that we were studying the nature of the sun that's astrology. Why do we feel a certain way in summer then in winter etc. We took the macro. The 12 houses and how the planets transits through them then we didt that on a micro level with time. The hour clock is the sun and the minute hand is the moon. Hour - Horus (sun god) minute - moon. Even numbers are derived from astrology
In other words, science hasn’t figured it out yet. But seriously he doesn’t even believe in God. so, I would have been surprised if he said he believed in astrology. 😂
He literally proved it is real. We're born in a specific time and it changes our circumstances. It's not just nutrition. It's society and the flow of nature in general. Most people just don't understand the intricacies
You can't say no until you fully analyse your birth chart. Not just your zodiac sign. That's call ignorance. Do not talk about what you don't know about.🤚
Cringe. Ive been a christian then an atheist now im agnostic. Im 39, and im a pisces and when i look back at some of the instrumental people in my life one of the only things most have in common is Pisces and more specifically feb 25-mar 1. I cant explain it, i dont study it, i just believe there is something to it. Also ive had people try to guess my sign, by people that take astronomy seriously, and id say 60%ish have guessed pisces. So I respect it.
we are more than just our sun signs tho. you'd be surprised how deep astrology actually is, especially when you learn its origins and use vedic astrology, learn about all the planets, houses and degrees. it's way too deep for the average human to be able to grasp.
Neil is somewhat wrong about one thing, in per civic children exclusively born in summer most of the time this was because people knew they could have lower amount of food in the winter
Not claiming the veracity of the subject, but this man clearly has never studied how ancient cultures actually studied or understood these things whatsoever. To say it is an ego-centric stance is absolutely absurd. I think he is talking about himself here.
Isaac newton died about 300 years ago when we didn't know anywhere near as much about the universe. Astrology is some bullshit make believe and it's illogical to even propose otherwise
Because back then astrology was considered science, its a while ago, things change. A while ago we thought the milky way was our whole universe. We dont still defend that now cause theres proof for it that its not
It's odd that even Neil deGrasse is oddly closed off to science when it suits his biases. Moons affect tides... humans are composed of water... to say it wouldn't affect us as well, being part of the universe and essentially universes of our own... would be a bit closed-minded, no? Dismissing Mars/retrograde is similar. Now. Using that as a prop to dwindle and say your life is a mess is a whole 'nudder thing.
The moon affect tides yes, but it doesn’t affect to that great extent the structure of your brain, your neurons and chemicals reactions that form your personality. What you eat, your genetics, the people who you talk to, the weather, the traumas, all of that have direct contribution to your personality. But the moon? How the hell do you prove it has connection scientifically? Even if you prove, how the hell do you know if it makes you ambitious, determined, pragmatic or whatever the horoscope says? None of that makes sense
No. The moon affects tides because of gravity, not because of water. Humans are composed of water, but they're also composed of other things like bone, which are also victim to the same gravity. He isn't closed off to 'suit his bias'. The scientific literature says there is no effect. This is science we are talking about. It's not about closed and open-mindedness. It's about falsifiable ideas, of which astrology is one.
@@JoeyTurVic everything you said also affects the person & IS included in astrology. The problem is that scammers & pseudo astrologers are way too many that it gets difficult to find really good astrologers. A truly good astrologer would mention all the factors you said, while giving explanations. And no, pRediCtiNg eXacT sTuFf isn't what happens. Good astrologers will tell you that your birth chart is just a blue print, there's still lot of choices & uncertainty within that blue print... That's where freewill comes. Do not blame the subject because of the people who overcrowd it.
This is a simple matter of definition, astrology is not a science in the way we chose to define the word since the claims being made are not testable! The leaps in logic are just too big. You can say that the stars send magnetic fields down to earth and that everything influences everything else through gravity, and this is the science of physics. These observations have lead to theories which represent our current, and most probable explanation of phenomenon. The leap to it influencing our personalities in predictable ways is untestable and unscientific, at least with our current tools and understanding. If astrologists really wanted to help their own cause, they would study something like astrophysics, in an attempt to bridge this gap. Unfortunately, those who try to prove their arguments using a series of disparate facts taken out of context likely also have little to no clue about how actual scientific research looks. We are supposed to be living in an enlightened world at this point, and the advent of modern science was supposed to wipe out all ideas of religion, yet people clung to it because of their ego. We live in a very exciting time when we may soon travel to other planets, synthesize new forms of life. Actual science takes time, it is difficult to learn, we often get it wrong, science is willing to admit that, but astrologists are not? Proper science is not a system of beliefs. A scientist must always be willing to alter their current understanding if a better explanation presents itself, unfortunately even in science ego might get in the way, and we do not do a perfect job. But the intention still stands.
That's hilarious. 😅 Astrology is very real. The moon literally affects our ocean tides & life on this earth. The sun literally affects our crops & life in general on this earth. Both literally affect the human mood, proven by science. So tell me wise guy, why wouldn't our star (the sun) & so forth play a role in human life & influence? Think critically people & expand your minds!
i fully expected to watch this video and be convinced astrology is not real. instead I got random assertions of inaccurate history and egoism by a man who did not at all explain that scientifically and then defended men buying cars
This is not how it works. Please understand your birth chart is the key with astrology. This video does not scratch the surface of astrology or use any terminology. One sided, uneducated argument. Sad to see Neil carry an incomplete argument. Dang Neil, I used to like you, but it is clear you speak empty words.
They play their parts humbly. I applaud their human performances. He is a Libra and she is a Taurus. Both are ruled by the planet Venus which represents harmony in relationships.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson deserves respect for his knowledge of astrophysics. That is where his expertise lies. Not in astrology. His opinion about astrology, then, is just that. An opinion. How much value would you put on a Classical musician's opinion on Jazz? Not much.
Lmao. Experiments don't care. Do a personality and/or psychological test of all 25 year-olds born under the same astrological sign in Japan and do the same for all 25 year-olds born in india, then China, then the US. That will break any and all predictions and assumptions in astrology. You don't have to do all, even 10% of each group mentioned would break it. Easily. Then do all other groups in their 20s. Lol. Nothing in astrology stands up to any real scientific scrutiny or tests. It's not replicable
@@JeanPierre7788 and any astrologer worth his salt will say that sun sign astrology is pop astrology. Using that to opine on the entire field of astrology is just plain lazy. Astrology uses not only the position of the sun in the sky, but also 9 other Astral bodies such as moon, mercury and hypothetical positions such as nodes and ascendant to calculate a birth chart. There are so many permutations and combinations from these variables that it is safe to say that no 2 people share the same natal chart, let alone 1/12th of the world population. * sigh*...its clear you have no idea what you are talking about when you talk about astrology....and yet, you will talk about it. Just like DeGrasse Tyson.
from the little I understand, it is NOT about making the stars fitting our ego, it has to do with where the stars were positioned in the sky at the time of your birth so in fact it is the other way around. this video is pure fail
kevin sutavee Great, you just proved astrology wrong. Because the positioning of the stars and planets is never the same, therefore monthly basis patterns like the ones from an horoscope cannot exist
Joel Vicente thank you! You just got put in your place my friend. Also theres billions of stars and planets so how is a position of a star or planet even relevant to the birth of a creature that is lightyears away from it. Astrology is hippy bullshit.
It’s a fail if you listen to it with an ear that’s turned away towards what you want to hear and not towards questioning your own believes. Nothing will make sense to you if you close your mind to other perspectives
She's trying so hard to make the question seem less ridiculous and more plausible... Kelly, you knew the answer before asking. What a waste of a question...
WILLIAM : Ay, sir, I have a pretty wit. TOUCHSTONE : Why, thou sayst well. I do now remember a saying: “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” The heathen philosopher, when he had a desire to eat a grape, would open his lips when he put it into his mouth, meaning thereby that grapes were made to eat and lips to open.
“You think mars gives a rats ass about YOU!” Lmao! That cracked me up. I’ve never believed in any of that crap and I’ve lived a pretty good life so far lol
For anyone who's interested. This is not a correct way to correlate this two areas. Astrology is based in milenar observation. Psycology is still in its dawn and the nature of reality and consciousness is still a mystery. How can a scientist for sure explain why astrology is fake? We desregard ancient knowledge because we see it with the eyes of today, and not from the actual prism of understanding of the time. Astrology evolved also, and people are using it mainly in the poorest way, thinking planets influence our actions, when the reality is much more complex then that. I hope that with the evolution of statistical analysis and AI data processing that in the future there are evidences that can clear up this misunderstanding. Anyway, i love astronomy, astrology, science and and mystical knowledge, and don't understand why this need to segregate when both have its value in our life. And can bring valuable benefits in the understanding of reality, when seen from its place of work.
Neil’s explanations are shoddy on this one tbh. He’s probably gotten tired of astrology questions as a science communicator and gotten rusty on the actual breadth of the scientific method’s applications.
Neil clearly owns a sports car 😅 ...He should of mentioned how the Earth's precession makes their entire chart innacurate anyway, but they didn't know that at the time this nonsense was created