Neil deGrasse Tyson Claps Back at Terrence Howard for Intellectual Attack 

Nobody would even know about what Neil commented on Howard's nonsense, if Howard didnt complain about it on JRE years later. What someone tells you in private about specific ideas you actually gave him to read, could never be an attack. You could even argue, that deGrasse Tyson tried to Howard a favor: Dont publish this any further, it's proven absurdity, you're making a fool of yourself. Of course, someone like Howard cant see this as a friend looking out for him, but rather a friend being a traitor holding him down.

Peer Reviews are notoriously vicious for even regular scientists. Terrance wasn't ready.😭

Ish being a flat earth guy makes so much sense

NDGT responded with maturity and intelligence, Terrance is a dumb persons smart person

*he only sounded smart to dumb ninjas*

Thank you Neil for shutting that goofy ass $hit down.

Someone tell Ish stop arguing for flat earth. It’s nonsense, tried to use government officials to compare to how stupid the flat earth theory is.

That was actually the least condescending I’ve ever seen Neil Shit was true class

You guys really need NDT on that show because one third of you need to learn how to think

Flat earth is one of the silliest things a person can believe, and all they ever say is “I’m just asking questions”. You better come with some convincing answers too if you want me to throw out hundreds of years of science (thousands really)

The problem, and this is helping globally, is that there is a pseudo-intellectual movement happening. Everyone wants to be the smartest person in the room and speak on subjects they have a vague understanding of to people that don't have an understanding at all. I don't know shit about quantum physics but I know enough to make someone say "wow, you must be smart" while in reality I don't know shit??

Ish....Flat Earth??? Drake???? It all lines up perfectly smh

Dude saying he hate facts is crazy 😂 Ppl wanna live in Disney land

Terrence Howard is clearly wrong and Neil was kind about it If 1x1 wasn't 1 your car ,phone, ac ,planes, games systems, or whatever wouldn't work because the rules of math make them possible. If the earth was flat, you'd instantly notice the lack of a horizon in the distance and flying from japan to cali would be very different.

Ish just be saying stuff … no one can or is indicting Fauci … I try to watch this podcast but the misinformation and arrogance makes it hard

I got dumber listening to them

A scientific theory is not a hypothesis, a theory in science have so much “facts” supporting it, gone through so many reviews, people trying to debunk it like crazy etc. It’s like saying the theory of gravity is just a guess that’s gonna get debunked one day.

Anti-intellectuals conversation about science gives you: Hypothesis/Theory... same thing. No, a guess based on limited evidence is not the same as all evidence points to this explanation. Theories change all the time. Nope! Name one in your lifetime?!? Lastly, a panel of adult men are choosing to be ignorant when the answers to most of the scientific questions are accessible through their phones. Smh!

Ish, flat earth, REALLY guy?!?

Ish, got " ishues".

They're conflating the scientific process, scientific theories, and hypotheses, which are all related but distinct concepts. And scientific theories aren't typically completely disproven; instead, they evolve and become more refined with new evidence. So, suggesting that this process is flawed or backward reflects a misunderstanding of how science progresses. Additionally, comparing what we know about the Earth (learned over centuries) to what we know about COVID-19 (studied for a few years) isn't reasonable because we've had much more time to study the Earth in detail.

If you have experts in a field that is THEIR field of study they've done the research they know the facts. If you disagree with an expert in that field you don't have to listen to them at all, study the field for yourself and do your own research. It's really that simple. It's okay to disagree and hold opinions, we just need to hold each other accountable about what is FACTUAL and what is a belief or a theory. When having a belief or theory leads us to the fact in the first place. If you can't get Neil on the podcast I would recommend Chuck. Or both. Chuck honestly is like the hood translator. He understands Neil and can explain it in a way that we would comprehend.

Peer reviews are law in science, no conjecture, opinion, belief, just facts.

I explained this to my 2nd grader.....with Legos. Multiplication is just a way to condensed addition into a more manageable form. So 3+3 is the same as 2x3. 12x12 is easier to write than 12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12+12. It's just mathematical shorthand and doesn't have any special properties inherent to itself. 1x1 (or times any other number) is just another way of communicating that you only have ONE of something. It's equal to saying 1+0. It's not magic, it just a quirk in the system because in this instance (1 times another number) writing it out IS longer than just writing the singular number. Now finish your homework and go watch the Backyardigans or something.

It's now on Terrence Howard to prove that he's right in what he believes through unbiased evidence.

1×1=2 was hilarious. This was great and started the first real conversation folks have had in awhile. Facts might come back in style.

The fact that people was seriously entertaining Terrance is scary to me… we didn’t create math we discovered it

PLEASE get NDT on the pod to talk to Ish about the earth

His peer review is apart of science! It helps to critically think!

Flat Ish 😂😂😂

I'm with Neil on that astrology shit. I be so fucking disappointed when I find out someone I know believes that bullshit

I don’t ever remember Terrence saying flat earth is a thing…. I think he’s mentioned there is no such thing as a straight line and everything is circles… like the flower of life

Stuff like this is why I’m anti public education. It’s a MASSIVE waste of time and resources to try to teach stupid people anything more than basic reading and writing. There should be a public daycare for you to send your kids, but unless you can afford to pay for school, or you test into it, you shouldn’t be allowed to waste taxpayer money.

Ppl still be thinking that this planet is flat good luck with that

The scientific method essentially begins with a hypothesis, followed by experimentation to gather evidence. If this hypothesis is supported by evidence, undergoes peer review, and withstands scrutiny, it evolves into a working theory. When people say science is constantly proving itself wrong, I believe they misunderstand the process. Science doesn’t overturn its established theories; rather, it refines them and disproves other hypotheses. For example, Isaac Newton's theory of gravity was based on fundamental evidence that remains unchanged. Even when Einstein refined the theory to accommodate very large scales, he didn't discard Newton's ideas; he identified where they fell short and built upon them. We still use Newton's equations to get to the moon, which shows their lasting relevance. Therefore, I don't fully agree with the notion that science continually disproves past science, as mentioned at 5:20. Instead, we disprove hypotheses that fail to withstand peer-reviewed scrutiny and never become theories in the first place. The key distinction between a hypothesis and a theory is that a theory is backed by robust evidence from multiple experiments, whereas a hypothesis is not.

alchemy is much more consistent than chemistry. And once you understand it, you get to work directly with the divine creative source to help it create. Its scary, but its fine because you know you not alone as you can see the evidence of the divine swelling around you.

6:15 If the earth is flat then how the hell do you explain solar and lunar eclipses? You can't. It's literally physically impossible for those celestial events to happen the way that they happen if we're living on a flat earth. Also we have hours of video footage and photos of earth from space and yeah it's round.... just like the sun the moon and every other planet out there. Surprise

Scientists work out theories once a theory is presented it has to be repeatable

Neil told him he out his rabid ass mind in a nice way

Love hearing y'all talk about science! Bring more engineers on!

I remember the day I was born as well …what does that say about me then lol the taste of waffles and butter from in the womb created my obsession 😒😂

Terence Howard makes the head hurt 😓

Stay with black news that's how we people repress the truth by laughing at it 💯

Terrence "1x1=2" Howard

Ish a a flat earther… and this guy is supposed to be smart??? For real?

They’re PODDING right here!!

Terrence Howard never said the Earth was flat, he said our math comes from a time period when people believed the Earth was flat .

Ish was looking so awkward lmao

Damn. I think this is the first time I’ve seen the camera turn on the white dude when he is talking. It seems like he’s off camera 99% of the time but I’ve never watched a full episode. Only these segment episodes

disproving things in the past is actually not true, they have also confirmed theories dating back to the 60s. They have confirmed findings from 1800's. So that statement is not factual.

I'm just happy people are talking about science and self studying.

Neil says people are made up of the same things the stars are made up of. So why wouldn't planets affect our behavior if they affect the behavior of each other? Astrology is definitely science just not what Neil is used to.

I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand because this 1*1 = 2 is not a new thing, and by the way, Terrance is right on this, 1 * 1 should be 2 because we are doing Multiplication, if not the name multiplication has to be changed to how many ones are in one then 1*1 = 1 will be correct but in our case, multiplication means to increase a lot in number, to make something do this or when you add a number to itself a certain number of times and we did add one to itself and the calculation came out wrong because the answer was 1. When a man and a woman have a child, they will no longer be in the same state and will have multiple

Pleaee bring Neil on the show. PLEASE

I like how people are saying Neil is attacking him. We used to do this in middle school: writing essays, having them on the projector, fixing grammar mistakes, and checking facts. It's common stuff. People who are praising Howard are the same kids who didn't pay attention in school.

Get ya mans Mel 😂 he think the earth is flat 😂

Believe Neil if you want he's with those that keeping you out of the real box

Neil DeGrasse came back with the diss track 😂

Hold up... a theory has never been disproven. They are only expanded upon... newtons theory of gravity was not disproven by Einsteins... E=MC² can be simplified into F=MA

Ay yo, where is flip?!?!

Buddy fr said i hate facts

Yall really came up here and said I hate facts, stop trying to figure shit out.

Terrence Howard is the truth... give it time you'll see Watch this

The online thing that legitimizes flat earth is how the tide is explained.

3:55 love me some Terence Howard😏 😎

Don't come to this podcast for anything intellectual. Joe can even give the man due respect and pronounce his name correctly.

Theory must be based on facts. Facts are based on observation and experience. Before one can have a theory, one should develop a hypothesis. Theory is when we test hypotheses over and over and achieve the same results.

All due respect there was a lot of ignorance displayed in this conversation from the flat earth guy. He has the wrong idea about science and education. In science we do experiments to verify results and apply theories, it’s not just something taught from one to another and accepted as gospel. Also former theories aren’t exactly proven wrong much of the time. For example it’s not like Einstein replaced newtons physics and somehow Newton was wrong about everything. Or quantum physics somehow completely negates relativity. That’s not how it works. Anyway I hope you guys talk to more scientists in person and be more open minded instead of hard headed and stubborn which will keep you ignorant.

The comparison of COVID and the Earth being round or not is just terrible @Ish. Covid was new so the scientist were still learning in real time. With earth being round this isn't knew. We actually can go up high enough in planes and see the curvature of the earth. There are satellites that can circle the earth.

Not all kind of free thinking is good, misinformed and ignorant thinking is not beneficial to anyone. Everyone tryna be the smartest person in the room when they just not.

If science is all theory how can 1 be wrong

YASSSSSSSS more brain beefs please 🙏🏻, the enginnerd in me is so cheeeesed 🧠 🥩 🐄 🐮

BRING NEIL ON THE POD PLEASE !!!

If ya'll think Tysons criticism of Howard was raw, ya'll should watch "Professor Dave debunks Terrence Howard". Thats a really cold diss.

I expected more from yall

Love Neil... Very wise

Comparing Covid that came out in 2020 to the knowledge of millions of scientists have about the earth being flat is wild for centuries lol people can convince themselves of anything.

Ish has mastered the art of being confidently wrong about almost everything...

Neil was all about the 💉 💉 💉

Get him on the podcast

“He didn’t use no weird words”. 😂. It’s great your on a mic talking to people. Are you 7?

Neil ruined star wars for me when he said that little ball robot wouldnt get traction in sand

It wasn't a clap back.

Terrance howard sounds like a 20 year old kid who ate 1 too many tabs of L and is strolling around the festival grounds spewing jibberish.

It makes so much sense why he’s a Drake fan if he even believes a little bit into flat earth

Science being wrong and giving info with bad intent is different. What side is faucci being put In and why. Science can be wrong. That’s expected.

The rap community has scholars like Immortal technique and Vinnie Paz telling you how it is but ya'll want to believe the education system is legit come on.

The 🌎 & literally every other celestial object minus astroids & meteors are spherical in nature because of gravity is working on all sides of the said object pushing towards the center of the object. Nada mas nada menos... Ignorance is bliss I tell you...

How can scientists tell you something is so many light years away

I dont think neil knows everything there's always new information to learn the more you learn .... so I think its cap because they don't wanna look into it

Neil a agent but glad he humbled Terrence

Joe sounded smart for a moment there and then he went off trying to justify his belief in sky daddy

This podcast is hipster until you start talking about astrology and “scientists can’t tell me what’s is after death”

these guys have no idea how science works

NDTyson is closed anyway

Dawg…. Ish man

Why is logic being attacked? People should be better than this

Science vs conspiracy?

You cannot equate 3yrs to centuries of established knowledge, that has received a steady flow of reaffirmation so much so that a rule. Going spiritual, even the bible references to the earth as being round or spherical with in its pages.

Everyone in this chat does know the earth isnt a globe shape but more of an egg shape. The fact the earth isnt what we all think leaves not the door but the window cracked to question what else isnt exactly what is taught. So anyone saying its straight up craz doesn't know astronomy. Just saying