Your trademarked slogan should be "Want to get More Dumber, Faster". The above Tyson video is completely addled and wrong. Halley's question on orbits is very famous and well documented. It is the question that prompted Newton to write Principia. The fool Tyson gets the question wrong. More importantly his date is off by about 15 years. Halley asked Newton about orbits when Newton was in his early 40s. It is thought Newton worked out his contributions to calculus when in his early to mid twenties. But obviously it wasn't Halley's question that prompted Newton to think about calculus. Let Victoria Brown and Peter Hopkins become known for their poor scholarship and dishonesty.
@digital subliminal messages I like that suggestion. Big Think's trademarked slogan should be "Want to get More Dumberer, More Faster™?" Victoria Brown and Peter Hopkins seem to be okay with Tyson's claim that Halley asked his famous question before Newton turned 26. They have made zero effort to correct the misinformation they've helped spread.
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Oh....and one more think to add to Newton's list of accolades: He wrote the Principia, which 300 years later is still widely regarded as the greatest work of science ever written. Simply put, Newton was the man.
He also invented the reflective telescope. All practical telescopes including Hubble uses the concept of reflective telescope. The observable universe is thanks to Newton. Newton was god's gift to science and humanity that only comes around once during mankind.
and also he was devoured christian too but denounce the trinity stating it's a later edition .and the book was a "historical accounts of 2 notable corruptions in the scriptures " a letter to John Locke in 1657
More like we got a bad historian over here. Tyson's wrong on several different counts. Tyson's maybe good for making memes. But his shallow pop science is pretty inaccurate. He's the "astrophysicist" for Katie Perry fans that want to call themselves nerds.
I think you're right about him being high. The whole history is wrong. It's straight outa Tyson's bong. thonyc.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/why-doesnt-he-just-shut-up/
@@obsetube1725 "Hollister David Your an asshole." Do Tyson's defenders cite evidence? Generally not. Ad Hominem, Appeal to Authority, and Straw Man arguments are much more popular with this crowd. I contend Tyson is stripping us of our critical thinking skills and making us dumber than fuck. Thank you Obsetube for adding to my growing body of evidence.
@age restricted Newton was in a completely different league and...completed his works. DaVinci was neither an engineer, scientist nor mathematician. He was a Renaissance man who excelled in most areas. He struggled with focus, He didn't complete, The Last Supper, Gran Cavallo Sculpture, he left the monastery without completing the Adoration of Magi (which he'd been commissioned), the background of the Mona Lisa is amateurish, according to biographer and expert painter, Vasari. Mathematics, he didn't write and record, one simple equation, he put forth potentials, he made no advancement or notable contribution to mathematics.. As for science, there is/are zero notable contributions to science, that Da Vinci can claim. A brilliant man, but specialist, absolutely not.
And later in life, he ran the English (later the British) mint, and reworked their coinage. He did such a good job that the standards remained in place for over 100 years, until the "Great Recoinage" of 1816. It's like finding out that Beethoven, Van Gogh, and Babe Ruth were all the same person.
The calculus part of the story is actually somewhat inaccurate. When Edmond Halley (Halley's comet) asked Newton how he would describe the curve of planetary orbit, Newton responded it was an ellipse. When Halley asked how he knew, Newton replied that he had already done the mathematical proof. In fact Newton had invented and been using calculus in his own work for quite some time before anyone else even heard of it. But Newton could not produce the written proof to show Halley because it had been written some time before, and he had misplaced it. So, he rewrote the proof and had it delivered to Halley a few months later. In other words, like Newton's revolutionary telescope as well as so many other things, Newton would solve the mysteries of the universe for his own private amusement (while everyone else struggled) and then grow bored and move on to something else without even telling anyone. It was all mere child's play to him. Tyson is right.....spooky.....making the hair on the back of my neck stand up just thinking about it.
Yeah, and apparently he spent the large majority of his time on fallacies such as alchemy and trying to decode the bible. If only he lived after the time they realised that was all BS, imagine what else he could've discovered had he devoted his entire time to science.
Newton was no follower. He forged his own beliefs based on his own reasoning which were not entirely inline with the church of his day. No, he would most certainly never come to "realize" anything new. He gave positive arguments in favor of the necessity of a creator and would almost certainly believe such things today.
We are having this discussion right now, on the smartest man in history. I was leaning towards Einstein but the fact that Newton did so much before he was 30 years old might just end that discussion.
Its hard to tell who was the smartest. He or she probably existed before we had invented writing and books, and then its hard to be a badass nerd... Think if any of us were placed on this planet 20000 years ago. How long would it take before we could make a modern civilization with proper tools etc?
Loving the hand motions at 1:36. Makes me think how the conversation must have gone: "I bet you can't explain why planets' orbits are elliptical!" "Guess what, I can do not only that but also invent the most powerful tool in the history of mathematics at the same time!" "Woah, watch out, we got a badass over here."
@@BillTrowbridge As with other people, he put his faith in Jesus Christ the Son of the living God who died for his sins, without whose forgiveness you will perish for eternity.
Newton was somewhat similar to Rick in the Rick and Morty show. He would solve the mysteries of the universe for his own private amusement (while everyone else struggled) and then grow bored and move on to something else without even telling anyone. It was all mere child's play to him.
Euclid I think the universe has a strong correlation with cytology(study of biological cells), I view the the universe as one big cosmic cell that is active and organic. Everything within this Cosmic Cell are just organelles of this Cell; stars, nebulas, blackholes, gas, plasma, dark energy, dark matter, Life; All have the same purpose of maintaing the life/health of this universe. I also think there was no Big Bang but a BIG DIVIDE of one cosmic cell into 2, and that we are not forever expanding but in the midst of dividing again. If you do some research on this you will see a very strong correlation I promise you.
He spazzes out after dishing out complete bull shit. Newton was 41 when Halley asked him about elliptical orbits. And more than 99% are upvoting this steaming pile. Truly the populace is growing dumber than fuck.
@@HopDavid but didn’t he begin the work on it when he was in his twenties and that’s why he knew the answer already when he was asked, but he had lost the work so spent a couple months rewriting it.
@@fredbarker9201 Newton had worked on calculus in his 20s (over a three year period, not two months). And he didn't do it all by himself (as Tyson has claimed). Tyson built on the work of Barrow, Fermat, Cavalieri, Descartes and others. When he did his stuff on elliptical orbits isn't clear, I believe in his late 30s. But yes, he had done the calculuations prior to Halley's question. So Tyson got the reply wrong. "I don't know -- I'll get back to you" is falsifying Newton's reply to Halley. Tyson also got Halley's question wrong. And it didn't take Halley a couple of months to redo his calculations. He got back to Halley 18 months later. And this didn't all happen before Newton turned 26. I wouldn't mind that Tyson wildly exaggerates Newton's accomplishments if he didn't use these falsehoods to push his narrative. Tyson will claim that Newton could have easily done Laplace's n-body mechanics in an afternoon. But he had God on the brain. The idiot seems unaware that Newton invested a great deal of time and effort on 3-body models. Newton spent years trying to model the motion of the earth, moon and sun. After Newton, Euler tried. Does this poser Tyson even know who Leonhard Euler is? Many think Euler is the greatest mathematician that ever lived. Laplace held that opinion. After Euler tried Lagrange worked on it. Maybe you've heard of the Lagrange points? They should be called the Euler Lagrange points since Euler found L1 through L3. Lagrange discovered the points trailing or leading the orbiting body by 60º. Laplace built on the efforts of Newton, Euler and Lagrange. To say Newton could have Laplace's work in an afternoon is stunningly stupid. Tyson likes to brag that Newton is his man. The fat, pompous fool doesn't know shit about Newton.
@@HopDavid I’ve been creating a list on the greatest creative minds to ever come out of England/Britain and I simply cannot pick between Newton and Shakespeare for that first spot
@@fredbarker9201 I don't know that much about Shakespeare but am interested in Newton. I think Newton is a contender for that title. But please don't use Tyson as a resource in your research. So much of his material is confused and addled.
Novitatis Veritatis no that was his key to complete genius , not succes people have and continue to succeed with all that, to call his accomplishments simply "success" is not very good
Inventing calculus certainly wasn't a single handed effort (as Tyson makes it seem) Barrow, Fermat, Descartes, Cavalieri, Kepler and others had laid the foundations of modern calculus in the generation before Newton and Leibniz. Barrow was Newton's older colleague at Cambridge. The timeline Neil gives is addled and wrong. It was Edmund Halley who asked the famous question about planetary orbits that prompted Newton to write Principia. Halley asked the question in 1684 when Newton was in his 40s, almost two decades after Newton did his calculus work. Newton made his breakthrough in 1677 when he mathematically demonstrated inverse square gravity implies Kepler's laws. Newton was in his mid 30s at the time. He had been working on gravity and his laws of motion since 1665. So it took him 12 years. And he didn't do it on Halley's "dare" which came 7 years later.
people fight through college to learn calculus because learning calculus is actually a person trying to force their brain to think like newtons brain. You are literally overriding everything you have learned and everything that makes you you in order to become newton. At least for the period in which you might need to simplify some incredibly complex math problem.
kaga13 Not literally changing who you are but changing how you think. Changing how you would perceive a problem and how you would tackle it.. adopting the teachers thought methods. and actually education can change people. Take a child from the ghetto and teach him philosophy and literature for 4 years and he wont be the same ghetto kid anymore.He is different.
I'm at university, i'm no expert at calculus but i wouldn't say i've had to force my brain to think like his. The way i see it, how could it be any other way? I definitely wouldn't have have invented something like this obviousbly, but no more than i wouldn't have invented the internal combustion engine. But now they have been invented/discovered, their genius is clear to my mind and i can understand them to a certain degree without any real strain on my brain. Remember that every learning process requires a re-wiring of the brain, so in the sense we are indeed perhaps forcing our brains to think like Newtons when learning calculus, but then you could also say i force my brain to think like Shakespeare when understanding and making sense of his texts.
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The reason for having people in college struggling with differential calculus is not that they can't figure it out. It's the teachers who will try to explain it in the hardest and most annoying way they can. In fact a good teacher will need no more then 15 minutes to explain the basics of differential calculus to a high school student.
Neil's thing is over simplified pop science that's often wrong. And his bad history is often outright fiction. For example, Halley asked Newton about elliptical orbits when Newton was 41. Most of the above video is a steaming pile of horse shit. Shame on Big Think for spreading misinformation.
I was at an American Association of Physics Teachers conference a few years back. Neil deGrasse Tyson was the guest speaker. He was so awesome that they delayed the entire conference for an hour just to let him speak longer. I don't know of any human alive that is doing more to promote science, curiosity and rational thinking. Thank you Neil... our children and grandchildren will live in a better world because of you.
hmmm I disagree. He even goes so far as to make fun of people who are interested in luner eclipses. He also apparently gets information wrong about Newton and spews' it out. Neil is a Kardashian "astrophysicist". Great at making viral tweets and scoring screen time. But he hasn't done research or even studied physics in decades. Most of the stuff he says about Newton is wrong, by the way. For example it was Edmund Halley that asked Newton about planetary orbits. Halley asked his famous question in 1684 when Newton was in his 40s (not before he turned 26). Newton didn't reply "I don't know". He told Halley that planets would follow elliptical orbits if the sun's gravity fell of with inverse square of distance, that he had calculated it. And so he had. Newton made his break trhough in 1677 after he had been working on the problem for 12 years. Newton didn't do it two months nor did he do it before he turned 26. It is very infuriating this man drops utter bull shit with such a strong, confident voice.
And the vid is wrong. Halley asked Newton about elliptical orbits when Newton was 41. And Fermat, Gregory, Barrow, Cavalieri and others had laid the foundation for differential and integral calculus in the generation before Newton and Leibniz. Shame on your teacher for steering you to bull shit.
Heh, genius level IQ. I'm no genius and I got straight 10/10 from all calculus courses. And I didn't even much read the books just listened in class. But still inventing a whole new field of mathematics is a feat of immense magnitude.
No disputing Newton was immensely brilliant and hard working, but like many other famous people in history, he’s also a beneficiary of being the right person in the right place at the right time. If John Von Neumann had been in such a position at that point in history and stage of scientific discovery, I don’t discount the possibility that his monstrous intellect would have brought similar enlightenment to the world, and we’d be singing his praises as the greatest scientist that ever walked the earth instead of Newton. A lot of life and the position we go down in history as is due to sheer luck. People don’t want to admit it because it’s scary to think so much is up to aspects outside of our control, but it’s true.
3 reasons I had to watch this video. 1. I was forced to by my professor.2. Neil deGrasse Tyson is sorta like the second Bill Nye.3. 1:35 and after... it says it all.
You would spaz out too if you had just pinched off a 50 lb loaf of bull shit. The vid is addled bad history from start to finish. thonyc.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/why-doesnt-he-just-shut-up/
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bubonic chronic Mexico is America, Canada is America, whose to say the tribes weren't Americans under their own government. North and South America are continents. Not to be confused with a single country, the USA.
Funny how Neil doesn't mention the Leibniz controversy and automatically assumes Newton invented Calculus first. No one really knows if Newton invented it first, and its disingenuous to state so and to not give credit to BOTH Leibniz and Newton as they both invented it independently at the same time and Leibniz published Calculus first and his version was used to advance mathematics because Newtons was simply unusable; Britain made no advancement in Mathematics until 1820 when they swallowed their national pride and officially began using Leibniz' version of Calculus. It's important to give the full story, especially when you're a Pop-Science icon and millions will take your word for it.
+Wilhelm Bèthvéder To be fair to NDGT, the calculus story would have detracted from the immediacy of the salient point about Newton. But I am a fan of Leibniz, whose intellect seemed as broad as Newton's was deep.
+Wilhelm Bèthvéder Newton most likely created it before leibniz as he claims. it's said he had it long before anyone even heard of it. He had to have been using calculus to do some of the work that he was doing in the first place which he included in his other proofs.. Newton tended to hold on to his ideas instead of releasing to the public. It's also speculated that leibniz probably saw some of newtons work and got influenced by it, but still props to leibniz for making a more comprehensive version, and even being able to make it in the first place, along with other things. Both were geniuses in their own right, but i truly believe newton was on another level.
There are some, like Rupert Sheldrake, that believe one partial discovery in the world can lead to other partial discoveries about the same principle. One feeds on the other. I believe this is what happened between Newton and Leibnitz.
The foundations for integral and differential calculus were laid in the generation before Newton and Leibniz. By men like Fermat, Cavalieri, Barrow and Gregory. Building this branch of mathematics was the collaborative effort of many people over many many years. It is straight up idiocy to say one person invented it in two months. Also, Halley asked Newton about elliptical orbits when Newton was 41. In this vid Tyson squeezes out one steaming pile after another.
"are you disliking because hes wrong?" Yup. For one thing Halley asked Newton the question about elliptical orbits when Newton was 41 years old. For another the foundations of calculus has been laid in the generation before Newton and Leibniz. Building this branch of mathematics was the collaborative effort of many people over many years. It is straight up idiocy to suggest a single inventor developed it in two months.
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All you guys, claiming that Einstein was better in physics than Newton: HE WAS NOT!!! Yes Einstein inserted Quantum Mechanics and the relativity of space and time, but rlike Tyson said: Newton invented nearly all basics we have today in physics. If we wouldn´t have had Newton, we eventually would not have the physics we have today. Well we can claim that we would deal with another physics, but would it be as enduring as the physics we have today? Dont forget: our physics is already over 300 years old and Newtons laws still work!!! So I am defenitly with Neil deGrasse Tyson and say that Newton was THE physicist!!!
No, Newton didn't invent all the stuff Tyson says he did. The vid's bull shit from start to finish. thonyc.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/why-doesnt-he-just-shut-up/
You too fucking stupid to use Google? Halley's question about elliptic orbits was quite famous and well documented. Tyson's video is straight up bull shit.
"Newton invented nearly all basics we have today in physics." Calculus had been around for almost a generation by the time Newton and Leibniz came along. Ditto the inverse square law and much of the stuff attributed to Newton. Newton compiled them in a neat way and used geometry to demonstrate inverse square implies elliptical orbits. But Tyson greatly exaggerates Newton's accomplishments. See thonyc.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/why-doesnt-he-just-shut-up/ and hopsblog-hop.blogspot.com/2016/01/fact-checking-neil-degrasse-tyson.html#Newton If you want fucked up bad history, Tyson is your guy.
Students are still taught Newtonian physics in school today hundreds of years after the Principia was published. Without the help of modern technology, he managed to decipher secrets of nature by using the only computer that is available to him. His brain. Imagine what he could do if he were alive today.
So much of the information in the above video is wrong. The friend who asked about planetary orbits? That would be Edmund Halley. Halley asked his famous question in the summer of 1684. Newton was in his 40s. When it comes to calculus Newton spent 3 years building on the efforts of Fermat, Cavalieri, Descartes, Kepler, Wallis, Barrow and others. Tyson takes decades of collaborative efforts and makes it sound like Newton did it all in two months on a lark.
Interesting Newton belived on God and even did many studies about the bible. I am pretty sure Newton was smarter and he said: "He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.” “Sir Isaac Newton was asked how he discovered the law of gravity. He replied, "By thinking about it all the time.” “Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy."
It's also where a lot of bad history comes from. Halley asked the question about planetary orbits in 1864 when Newton was in his 40s. Just about everything Tyson says about Newton is addled and confused. That hand motion Neil does... That his spasm after pinching off a huge loaf.
Yes, but Issac Newton also lived during the 17th and 18th centuries. A time where being non-religious was no where near as common as it is today within the scientific community, and especially outside it.
I'm sure out of all the 5.3K comments, this has been pointed out--but does anyone else find it funny that Neil doesn't realize that he actually *does* have hair on the back of his neck?
