Why are you regurgitating this comment? Do you know what you're implying? If you met Neil in real life, you wouldn't say these rude things. We need to start realizing that there is no difference between real life and the internet anymore. What you say on here, has effects in the real world. A lot of famous talented people don't even read comments anymore because of the guaranteed negativity. It drives some of them into depression.
His vax argument only holds water if it prevents transmission, which it didn’t. Really surprised Pat basically completely left that out. If you have it, and you’re protected because of that, and all of us spread it among each other regardless of shot status, then forcing it is a moot point.
That's not actually, let's discard all the other things vaccine did but, the vaccine stoped transmission to some point, and as Tyson said, lets said it stopped 47‰ of transmissions, you just have to wight in the benefit/cost of the injection
@@comic2526 Dude, what's wrong with your English and spelling skills? That might be something to work on if your gonna try to act smart and share information... Not really a good look
PBD loves moving the goal post by asking someone a question and then not letting the person answer it, by constantly interrupting them with other tangential questions. A true sign of someone who can't defend their position.
A “social contract” what about the social contract to respect everyone’s medical decisions, what about the social contract to not ruin peoples lively hood on purpose
@TRAVELER there was, and still is no proof it keeps it from spreading. So the fck should anyone put themselves at risk for dying or having permanent health problems, WHICH IT DOES.
@TRAVELER just like Neil said, you repeat something long enough and get enough weak minded people to repeat it in hope that it becomes true. There is no social contract, it’s called tyranny and a violation of individuals rights.
I agree, he has a message by the establishment and he's a puppet who must follow his orders. he's the biggest FRAUD! a scientist that once said "DONT QUESTION SCIENCE" is a pseudoscientist ! that what he is !
He's talking about formal debates. Not answering some questions during an interview. Debates have a confined format that inhibits their ability to be objective. Is about who can argue about a topic on a more effective manner, not about who can prove their argument based purely on objective facts. They both made that pretty clear.
This will 100% be the LAST NDT interview I ever watch. I only watched it because it's PBD Podcast, but in this episode, this dude exposed himself for being the most pretentious, know-it-all, "scientist" who never lets anyone speak because he just loves the sound of his own voice too much. His justification of vaccine mandates was the last straw for me. Absolutely shameful. This dude is NOT YOUR FRIEND. I really cannot stand this individual, and it's a shame, because as a young black boy wanting to pursue STEM, I used to look up to him. Not anymore. P.S. Did you know that he spoke at the WEF? All of the above makes perfect sense now.
Well this wasn't a debate you speaker of division. This was a meeting of the minds having a discussion of topics you wish you could expand on with such importance. Sit down short round.
My problem about this vaccine debate is that Neil seems to believe that all scientific studies and articles are uncorrupt and that all scientists are honest.
And that only the experts he listens to that say what he wants are correct and infallable, but studies and outcomes from other countries and other epidemioligists who say different just don't exist.
Studies are peered reviewed by the global community. It would be in chinas or Russias best interest to show we lied in out studies to destroy our country. No one has done this. Why?
@@bcbw07 why would it be in their interest when they also enforced extreme covid measures, to the point of mass protests, and also pushed vaccines to show that they overreacted and were wrong as well?
He’s a failed actor who lies about science. Unfortunately people are becoming more aware and his lies aren’t working anymore. Now he lives on defense and sounds like a petty leftist hanging on to a fully gutted point of view.
@@Gshockgutta He hasn't done research in 30 years. And he gets so much basic stuff embarrassingly wrong. Like did you know JWST is parked in earth's shadow? Or that rocket propellent goes exponentially with payload mass? He's too busy with his hair and wardrobe to actually study the things he talks about. Columbia should be embarrassed they gave this guy a doctorate.
I am scientifically literate! Get the vaccine right away! What is in the vaccine? Oh the ingredients haven't been released yet, however get it anyway. So part of statistical data for me is knowing what I am putting into my body. This is why I read ingredients when I purchase food items. I think the term science is skewed here. Wouldn't the ingredients be one of the most important factors?
@leoneilbacon9152 too bad he wasn't smart enough to understand what they were pointing out about inadequate testing of the vax, and it surprised me that distrustful acts of big pharma were never mentioned. It is like choosing a known pedo be your babysitter. So called smart people can be pretty dumb like this sometimes when they think they got it "figured out". In general, it is better to have smart people talking, but when we see all the terrible gross stuff coming out of the dead people since the vax started is terrifying and any one aware of the corruption and fraud (biggest case in US history) in the medical industry was. It is insane no one is talking about the morticians right now. It is sad he actually has this much trust in this corrupt system that has been allowing terrible things to happen for as long as the country has existed. Funny he says he hates debate but spent the whole time debating. They told NDT about the stuff growing in the veins and arteries of the vaxed.
I knew that then, NDT knew that then. The vaccine only (or mostly) prevented bad consequences from COVID, like hospitalization or death. Public data is available that verifies this.
That's right...first all ( white house- fascinating the media) all said it stopped transmission...total exposed by that - I believe Danish journalist in Europe to Pfizer...and she laughed like it was silly question...crazy time
It's a surface level point the point of debate teams is to practice debate not validate your beliefs. That's why they randomly assign sides. The fact neil would use this to discredit debate in general is just dumb.
@@jeff2209 He was using it to discredit congress because members of a party are told what to say in a debate and they must argue that point regardless of what they truly believe. Congress debates are 0% reflection and just hammering your point better than the opposition. There is no judge in congress debates, only someone to moderate and maintain order. Even if you persuade someone to change their beliefs, their credibility and reputation depends on them winning the argument and not being swayed.
His reaction to PBD criticizing the vaccine testing period(or lack thereof) - is that how a scientist should respond to fair criticism? Tyson didn't even give pause, just immediately got almost hysterical. And that "one thing" that Tyson refers to is death. That's a big one for a lot of folks.
Did he not react to it fairly though? Was it not tested enough? Fair point, but under the urgent conditions of the time a choice needed to be made when it would be good enough. Since the covid deaths went down dramatically after the vaccinations, it seems to clearly have done the job. And to the next point of worrying about unknown potential side effects: Same reasoning as before. Sure there could be something less harmful then death or long term covid, but it's really not a contest what is the rational choice.
@@shandelebroyles1099 You're not making a point. May I remind you that the same vaccine has been used in variations worldwide? You want to tell me all the meida in all countries are part of the same conspiracy to...do what exactly? Vaccinate people during a pandemic? The horror!
The other issue that people like Neil cant seem to wrap there heads around is that the risks vs rewards vary greatly from person to person. It might be a good idea for someone and not for another. This idea that youre putting other people at risk by not taking it is simply a lie. Why should anyone lose there job for not taking the vaccine? What if we took the opposite position and said, youre putting others at risk by getting a treatment we don't know the effects of? You cant drive for uber because we dont know if youll have a heart attack, a seizure, etc. I think Neil has exposed bis biases lately. Hes owned.
The reason he responded in such manner because Patrick was claiming false assumptions. He had to let him know that what he thinks happened is not really what actually happened.
That quote is in reference to the state of Pennsylvania having the freedom to govern and tax the Penn family who were essentially corrupt oligarchs, versus the “safety” of the Penn family funding frontier defense during the French and Indian war. It’s freedom of the state to govern effectively, not freedom of you not to participate in public health measures.
The coldest part is Neil is not looking or accounting for the update statistics and findings that are posted everywhere including the CDC. Which is the side effects that are known as of today. You have to wonder how much is being paid in hush money.
I believe that example was an attempt to get Neil to understand people were still choosing to head to Florida even though the experts all said it was one of the worst places to be. Neil is leaning very heavily on his "stats" and "data" (the accuracy of which is up for debate depending on where those numbers came from). So his point being, if the stats and data all reflect how helpful the vaccine was, then why are some of the most powerful and rich deciding to go there? It's not meant to be "proof" of anything, it's simply meant to try and get Neil to think about where he's getting his information from. It just was executed poorly imo.
If god is the explanation for the universe then what is the explanation for god? If god does not require an explanation, why not? And why can't that be the universe? The irony is your comment is so glib... 🙄
The idea that a vaccine needs to be 100% effective and completely prevent any infection is a misconception. Vaccines train your body to deal with diseases and significantly reduce your likelihood of infection or severe symptoms from a disease. It's a good thing to get vaccinated.
That in itself isnt necessarily problematic. Without knowing what the change was in the US definition, I know it's independently considered a vaccine in all of Europe and the rest of the world.
What are you talking about? The vaccine did prevent death and was exactly the point Neil was making which you can see if you watch deaths before and after vaccine was introduced. You're just too dumb to understand how stats work
Can you elaborate as to how the vaccine didn't reduce the risk of serious injury? Feel free to link where you saw this information. Unless you've just parroted it from right-wing talking heads.
As someone who works with long term clients and has worked in sales in short transactions. If you disdain the people you are in a relationship with (transactional or personal) the problem is all but certain to not get better but worse, unless someone is cleaning up after you or you have a change of attitude. I’ve had clients mad at me for things I was and wasn’t the cause of. Treated them like they were garbage didn’t seem like the way.
Teachers are like nurses and other people who work for the government. Arrogant, liars, can’t take accountability, low brow govt propaganda positions for weak minded people
@@griffisjmstatistically very much so . Your case is called anecdotal which does not matter vs actual stats . Something I learned in public education and a standard in statistic measuring for over a century.
Guys you dropped the ball here in pushing back on his points... I'm going crazy listening to this... so an athlete dying from heart disease have the same risk as an 70 yr old overweight person? That was never factored in his equation... or why does his immune compromised nephew has more rights than me? Why can't his nephew stay in the cabin or go to the beach? So frustrating to watch. I feel you guys took the wrong angle when pushing back
Exactly, healthy individuals that had a mind of their own were put down, outcast and made feel like second rate citizens while being ridiculed and coerced, while media and governments put unhealthy people first, most of whom are in the unhealthy state that they are in from their own poor health choices. It makes zero sense. Also not once was lifestyle change recommended. It was simply: Take this experimental chemical concoction or be removed from society. It makes no sense to say that I should have to risk side effects in order to put someone I don't even know before myself. That is totally absurd. it would be fine if that was my selfless decision, but when it is forced it is not okay and a violation of basic human rights.
@TRAVELER one doesn't need a storied career in medicine to know how major of a failure our government's response was to COVID. Also, I don't need a phD in biology to understand how ineffective COVID was for those who were/are of the at-risk population versus those who were not/are not of the at-risk population.
I enjoyed Pat's line of questioning on covid vaccines. NDT represents everything wrong with the "rationale scientific" mode of looking at the world. Arrogant is the word that comes to mind.
Yup they ALWAYS operate and argue their side from the luxury of an absolute ASSUMPTION. all the SMART PEOPLE know it is NOT REALISTIC. While people like Neil ignorantly argue "data" as FACT and do not consider the possibility for manipulation or incentive to lie about said data. It's SO DAMN SCARY that these are the people that the government takes orders from (assuming they even care).
Neil give people more credit, yes we get excited about leaving school but you find after a few years most of us further our education as adults by going back to college or university, learn new hobbies, watch science podcast etc and learn as we go. Academia is great but its not for everyone. Einstein said when he was alive some of the smartest people he knew worked on farms and are were not interested in the pursuit of academia and knowledge. I call that living :)
@@cutndry4165 "A divorce? Let's not debate, but let's look at the data behind our relationship. Let's look at the science behind divorce. Did you know that in 1845, the most common reason for divorce was women's underwear?" *goes on three week long rant*
The Truth / Facts are tough to swallow. That's why you find it hard and painful to listen to Neil.. Truth / Facts don't care about your feelings sweetheart.. lol
Now its all about statistics.. Life can't be measured.. When Mr Neil die his last words will be.. Statistics, data and then die.. How our race became soo selfish egos??
Neil is the only guy that interrupts constantly and nobody cares because you know whatever he's gonna say is so much better than anything you could say 😂
Very true, scientists hate debating anything when it cant be backed up with data and research, their whole profession is based on it. They have no time for people who have no idea what they are talking about, and thats a HUGE problem because 99.99% of the public don't spend their lives in labs gathering and analyzing data for a living like they do. They have to become better at talking to the public, or science denialism will only continue to grow. Great comment. So glad someone finally brought that up
"“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." C.S.Lewis sums up Neil perfectly
I was looking for this comment, this is something I think about daily. Because kids are a resource to a country, any country can be great in a couple of generations if they do something good with their education system.
@@kalebfields1281 because you disagree w him doesn’t mean he went off the rails. Learn to disagree. He has phd’s and you have hours of RU-vid research. The same at the end of the day.
Here's a summary of the highlights I appreciated. Neil was talking about taking the Faxxine but instead he used the word Firus 3 different times in a row. At 8:24 Neal said "your decision point is, I'm not going to take the Firus because 5 years 10 years I don't know what effect it will have". 8:36 Neil said "I don't want to take the Firus because five or 10 years from now there could be a side effect that we don't see". 8:50 Neil said "I don't want to take the Firus because it hasn't been tested for 5 years and there could be some long-term side effect that worries me." Neal repeatedly said the magic Faxxine was tested at these times, 0:12, 0:15, 0:22, 0:45. However, Neil left out the fact that Fhizer CEO Albert Bourla tweeted in April 2021 that the vaccine was “100% effective in preventing COVID cases in South Africa, and later in October 2022 the Fhizer executive Janine Small admitted to the European Parliament that Fhizer never tested the Faxxine to see if it would stop transmission. So there was never any test done to prove it reduced transmission. At 2:35 Neil said "If you do not get Faxxinated you will put other people in this organization at risk and this organization And that organization does not want to take that risk so you do not have a job anymore." At 10:30 Neil said "you don't have the right to contaminate someone else". So if the Faxxines weren't tested to see if they would stop transmission then how would it stop transmission to other people working in an organization? At 11:32 thru 11:48 Neil said " I take the vaccine and accept the risk that I will grow a third arm. It seems that Neil knows something we don't know. I already have a third arm, I was born with it. I don't need to take a Faxxine to grow a third arm. Seems like Neil has third arm envy, no wonder he took the Faxxine.
I had many of the same thoguhts, wish PBD would have prepped for this topic, worthless debating a faxx clergyman unless you can point to all the things they did get wrong, times they lied, and current outcomes in many countries showing the faxx is not what they said it was when they destroyed the economy through mass printing of money, kids educations, peoples mental health, and small businesses by going full on authoritarian.
@@erisgh0sted961 So you missed this important caveat that exposes either ignorance or malice, your choice, on the part of NDT. "Neal repeatedly said the magic Faxxine was tested at these times.." to prevent transmission, and this justifies madates for the "collective." In fact, he said, shaking, that there was "data"..."whole systems set up" to test vaccines. But... "in October 2022 the Fhizer executive Janine Small admitted to the European Parliament that Fhizer never tested the Faxxine to see if it would stop transmission. So there was never any test done to prove it reduced transmission." So yeah. Try harder. Did you still go along like a cultist? Seems like a whole lotta denial to justify being a f*cking tyrant. Or do you just _know better_ than a Fhizer Exec? 🤡
@@konstantinpalkin2177 I was waiting for him to bring that up. I think Neil was totally misinformed here and ideologically biased on that one. I thought the rest of the podcast was amazing though.
Do y’all hate data on all the people who were supposedly hurt by the vaccine more than Covid or for the next 10-20-40 years, you’re gonna claim that the Covid related diseases are about to appear in mass any day soon?
The fact that Neil hadn't even heard of the documentary Died Suddenly goes to show he lives in an echoe chamber where he is only allowed to see and hear what he is "supposed" to hear and see.
His argument that he is a scientist and no one else can disseminate information is frustrating. He disregarded any arguments that would challenge the position of the government. I wonder if he actually took money from the government to back the jab....
I know 4 unvaccinated people who have died from complications related to Covid, I don't know anybody who has has been vaccinated that has died from Covid. Even my 88 year old, sickly Uncle got covid and got over it in a week (he was fully vaccinated and boosted). But who knows maybe my personal anecdotes are just incidental.
@@auditoryproductions1831 yeah the jury is still out on the effects, but the problem most people have, me included, was the heavy effort used to "other" those who chose not to take it
@@soniahtrinette You have multiple friends, multiple co-workers and 2 family members all under 60 died after taking a vaccine? So like 6-10 people in your life under 50 have all dropped dead in the last couple years after taking the vaccine? That sounds an awful lot like a lie and/or radical distortion.
@@projectstoicism People wouldn't care whether you took the vaccine if you didn't clog up the hospitals by taking up breathing machines when a preemptive vaccine was available to you for free at rite aid. It's the strain on the healthcare system that people care about, it isn't whether you or anybody else personally is vaccinated or even whether your lungs stop. Nobody cares, it's the burden to society that taking care of you that pisses those of us off that took that vaccine and are perfectly fine.
@@auditoryproductions1831 if that's the argument then how do you feel about obese people? Did you know they cost the US healthcare system $173 billion per year? did you know they are also most at risk for severe symptoms from covid? Are you angry with them?
What Neil Tyson does in a debate is purposely get off subject on a point and then try to make debatable statements on that point so that you want to then question that lesser important subject matter instead, or get you off track if you have him cornered. Then on top of it when he's going off track he tries to commandeer the convo and slows way down and stumbles on a word or someone's name that is already 3 degrees away from the main subject in hopes that the person debating him gets lost in thought, so he can then try to summarize by gas lighting the debate
@@morenitomoreno1282 He just doesn't regurgitate the data that most people have seen. He has looked at the data and possibly like the rest of us can't remember the exact data, and might feel it would irresponsible to attempt to spout off data if not exactly correct, even if in the ballpark because of how people on the internet will have a hissy fit, but like many of us when we seen the data it was enough to make up our minds, so we didn't need to memorize exact numbers. It becomes much easier to visualize anecdotal evidence, and is much more interesting for a podcast imo
@@latebluebird He feels he is smarter but he is not smarter than anyone . He is smarter in his field but when it comes to infectious diseases, vaccine... He is not smarter than Dr Robert Malone. Let him debate against Dr Malone or Dr Dr Vanden Bossche, the best Drs when it comes to virus and vaccines. They both are against mRNA vaccine. Specially what Dr Camden predicted is happening today. They both were censured from the social medias.
@@dantag5195 how many people do you know have graduated from harvard and have Ph. Ds and are scientists? like i said, he is usually the smartest person in the room. now as for COVID, i never said he was smarter than those doctors or scientists who specialize in those fields. but out of curiosity, since you seem reasonable and kind enough to educate me on a few things. please tell me exactly what he said you think is incorrect. i say this because i found myself disagreeing with the host on several things and agreeing with neil.
@@latebluebird everything he said about mass vaccination is wrong. Many studies have proven natural immunity is much better than that experimental vaccine. Nothing that he said about the vaccine was right. Have you heard about Great Barrington Declaration? It is signed by close to a million (Total Signatures 936,033 Concerned Citizens 872,576 Medical & Public Health Scientists 16,027 Medical practitioners 47,428 Tyson is just like those vaccine pushers we been watching on CNN during COVID.
@Freedom_Finder LMAOOO "trustworthy" my a** , the guy has been riding the clown gravy train grift for years. Marks like you are a neverending golden goose.
@@sterlingw3611 He's become a beacon for the "agenda" and I occasionally listen to him to know what is the exact opposite thing that I should be doing.
no respect for this guy after vaccine talk. i already knew he was a dud when he quoted Einstein in a commercial but didnt give credit and went on as if he came up with it. The quote is " most people are smart enough to know its true but aren't smart enough to know that its not"
No, he's fascinated with science. Science - the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. He bases his opinions on the REAL WORLD, the TRUTH. There's no arguing with science, the vaccine is working and there's no question about it, you cant debate it.
Not sure how a guy who talks over people, gets angry and raises his voice when challenged, and generally speaks with a pompous affectation, can be said to have a 'nice personality'. He used to be a nicer guy AND wasnt out there showing his whole a$$ as the mindless leftist tribalist that he appears to be. Now he offers absolutely nothing.
Hey Team, FYI, the VOD has a technical issue at 01:20:50 Thank you as always the the great 2+ hours. Hopefully one day I'll have the pleasure to meet you and specially Patrick in person. Thy, N.
I stumbled across PBD podcast this weekend and have watched a few of his interviews. I disagree with the majority of what I hear from PBD but I appreciate how he engaged in this interview with Neil. It’s the truly the first time I saw him seem really open to learning from his guest.
The virus conversation is a perfect example of scientism and this gentleman being one of its high clergymen. “There is a system and thus the [jab] worked…it [had to]…are you missing some data?”
I'm 42 years old. I went to work for one hour. I had a conversation with an employee who was double Moderna shots. My company contact traced me. I watch Kerry mullis, creator of the PCR test, I was positive. I had mild covid. My coworker was gone for 3 weeks and almost died. He just had a heart attack at work. I am not vaccinated and I'm fine. I lost sense of smell and taste. The same employee who gave me.the virus gave it to 10 others. The data is showing the lies about the gene therapy.
@@lloydgush yes, it only lasted for 5 days. I had cold chills one night and a headache for 3 days. I took Tylenol 500 MG and they went away. I did my research and knew the coworker would be worse. I tested my theory on myself.
One of my anti-vax co-workers got it, he wasn't that bad but he 'presumably' gave it to his dad who ended up dieing from covid. My dad (vaxed) got covid (not from me) but got over it in about a week. I know 4 unvaccinated people who have died from complications related to Covid, I don't know anybody who has has been vaccinated that has died from Covid. Even my 88 year old, sickly Uncle got covid and got over it in a week (he was fully vaccinated and boosted). But who knows maybe my personal anecdotes are just incidental.
@@Maxi_carz Also I got covid after johnson vax and pfizer boost. Felt sorta shitty for a day. No loss of taste or smell, felt fine next day. To be fair though I am a healthy 36 year old male.
Because the strong should protect the weak.Or we change that rule and just kill the weak at birth or when they get sick. :| We are not perfect and we have a long way to go... Btw I don't agree with forced vax and I didn't get it myself.
@@sorin862000 u just said "because the strong should protect the weak" but then followed that by saying you didn't get the jab? Do u not consider yourself one of the "strong" ones who should protect the weak? Or does that only apply to "everyone else" and not you? Truly confused 🤯
Neil’s argument on the “social contract” is irrelevant. He’s preaching how well the covid vaccines work yet saying those who choose not to take it, endanger those who took the vaccine .
Indeed, and after hearing his "belief" about covid, you can put the word "ass" in between. I still think he is funny though,, and very good source of info regarding the "universe" but lost a bit respect for him defending the covid narrative. Saying shit like the hospitals were so full etc etc.
He wouldn’t even let PBD try. Any time he got any resistance he got more loud and emotional. If he knew how to listen, PBD could have destroyed his bs.
@@Ashantia35 And NDT wasn't? He didn't even know what he was going to say each time he rudely interrupted the beginning of a good point. Just started making shit up for the sake of interrupting. NDT's entire argument is nullified by the fact that the vaccines never prevented transmission. Phizer has publicly admitted this, yet he still defends mandatory vaccines. It really shows how ignorant / bought and paid for he is.
@@ghostofakina8747 Seatbelt in a car doesn't prevent injury completely but you are still required to wear it. Reason is, it will reduce your chance or harm or even dying Same argument for the vaccine
PATRICK, next time you have Neil on as a guest (great interview btw) perhaps get into the stats on prisoners during lockdown. How is it that all those people in cages were fine, without masks or injections ? Or go into the stats on why people in hospitals died, in other words the influence of ventilators etc ? And why, up until recently, post-mortems were not allowed ?
You don’t think it’s ironic that prisoners who are on lockdown for most of the day had better outcomes?? Surely then you were in favour of the lockdown that happened in some states. I doubt it though.
@@TheWallethead dude prisonners have poor hygiene, they are overcrowded as fk. Tons of jails have more than 1 person in a cell that is supposed to contain one. I know a guy who had to sleep on the floor no joke. They werent in lockdown from each other by any means.
@@Jim-km1xt not really it was him repeating leftist stupidity because it wasn't a medical debate it was a political debate and from my experience i don't want sleepy joe have any power on my body.
I don't know why anyone thinks he is intelligent. Degrees prove you can memorize and accomplish tasks but it doesn't teach you to think, knowledge puffs up.
Neil is part of the Hive mind. He cannot think on his own. He is saying the exact same BS that was given to him by Klaus Schwab in Covid 19-The Great Reset book.
@@WorldwideJamal Pat is smart, you can tell. Tyson may be very knowledgeable or an expert in his field but outside of it I see no evidence he has a brain in head.
I don't how hard an astrophysicist has to work, but he's never spent a day on an actual job site if he thinks COVID is the worst risk you pose to your coworkers.
@@joebidet3606 Actually not buddy, unless you can tell me how to put the power, plumbing, fire alarm, access control, or burglar alarm systems inside those buildings that allow you to work there. These trades are becoming more niche because there are not many if any young people to replace the sixty year olds ready to retire. Imagine where society goes with no electrical or water grid.
1:21:00 Neil pauses after this, and contemplates how to smoothly change the subject from “giving others Covid” to “saving hospital beds.” I know Neil and Bill Nye. They’re best buddies. Bill used to do this to me and I couldn’t figure by out how he was so smooth changing the subject slightly.. it would take me a minute to realize.. but by then we were far from the original point.
