Yeah, and just like regular people, Neil has an opinion on it and is discussing it with someone who wants to hear it. He didn't even say it was a bad movie, he was just saying that the logic that moved the plot forward doesn't make all that much when you take certain factors into consideration. Everyone knows that Neil is the type of person that thinks further into things than a lot of people do and will see things from a more scientific perspective yet for some reason everyone seems to continually be surprised by Neil's takes on things or that he tries to educate people.
@@1stNinjaM Just like some people like to project.. Insinuating what they want to out of someone else's response to a statement. It's great that he has you in this cruel cold world to help defend his responses though. 🤣
@@StrangeMuzikFan Yeah, I am defending him. You tell me which part of my comment was incorrect? You specifically said, "A movie had to be made Neil," which assumes he somehow didn't know or understand that movies need convenience to move the plot forward. I'm pretty sure he knew that but was talking from a realistic perspective hence his comments. Its not hard to come to this conclusion if you took 5 seconds to think about it. Mind you this is a clip of a conversation he is having with someone else and you're also somehow unaware of the fact that when people are talking to others about a movie they saw, they will often talk about things that don't make sense to them or speculate what it would be like if the movie's events were to happen in real life.
@@jem2886I doubt that. We won’t structurally destroy the planet, and whatever life form exists on the planet in the next few billion years will not be human, even if they are our descendants. We won’t need a new planet. The planet will make a new us. Funny that we think we could even ruin this place if we tried.
@Kelvinry If you haven’t being paying attention to physics it is not making any progress, it’s broken and stopped evolving. I can provide you with many videos of profs and Doctors in physics saying this.
and even there was crap with love trancending space, too much time extension on that ploanet, the guy surviving a blackhole , x dimensional comunication and many other bulshit including that stupid useless robot
That’s the point, the whole premise of the movie is kinda dumb. They could’ve found a better existential threat to leave earth, like abnormal solar activity, volcanic activity, asteroids, etc.
@@RaNc0R yeah actually they were trying to create a blight resistant crop but they had no time cause the blight consumed all of the nitrogen in the atmosphere. At the same time the astrophysics was well matured so they chose to just vacate earth. On the other hand what more life threatening scenario can we suggest? It has to be like a slow deterioration of earth not like an asteroid, so.. it gives drama to the screenplay of a hardworking man trying to keep things under control for his family and eventually motivated enough to go on a possible suicide mission for the family and also the slow damage give time for other drama of all the theoretical physics work been done and the eurika movement. There are some things that we should assume to make a movie interesting. I always think of scenarios that could have possibly caused this plot kind of like making my own prequel movie in my mind instead of finding holes in the plot this method gives more satisfaction.
Tbf, biologists today haven't exactly "cured" the common cold either. Blight is a symptom of a number of plant diseases, much like a cold is for humans. It's feasible the underlying cause for the blight was some drug-resistant superbug that couldn't be cured in time for the global food supply lines to not collapse.
@@RaNc0RThat's a fair criticism. And if the biologists of that universe are so bad how the hell do they hope to grow food on another planet? It's still in my top 5. 😂
There were more fundamental flaws than just the blight. Neil himself, in another interview, mentioned how the 1st world, located in the orbit of the black hole was a ridiculous (I'm paraphrasing) choice for a new home. No one would ever consider such a world, even if it had perfect biology, perfect gravity, with prebuilt cities and perfect landmass distribution. It would never be a viable choice even if it was safe from the black hole for centuries.
One fact to be considered, the locust from the movie breathes N2 instead of O2. It was mutating at a faster rate, faster than biologists to end them. Its like every time you find a poison, it mutates and becomes immune. Hence they found it easier with their present technology to move from the planet than to fixing the unknown. In our world, we still can't get rid of mosquito even though their contribution to the food web is negligible.
Everybody thinks that but yeah its so great that we can discuss abt actual physics with it so its a debate of how realistic it was which we all know its not its just hypothetical representation of black hole, 5th dimension, wormhole we are yet to discover these things except bh..... And the most loved thing i like in the film that its representation of bh we didn't even had picture of one in 2015 and movie representation was so well that in 2019 first image of bh turned out to be just like it
They were never really going to ship a billion or any large amount of people to an exoplanet (which was referred to as Plan A). It was a facade to convince Cooper and team to take the mission. The plan was always to repopulate the exoplanet with a “Population Bomb” by shipping a large quantity of fertilised human eggs (known as Plan B). However with that being said, it is true, biologists figuring out the crop issue would have been a lot easier. Still a great movie.
They actually explained that in the movie, governments were practically collapsing just because of starvation, and this was soo bad that no country even wanted a war. They didn't really give that big of a hint as to how many people there are on Earth but someone estimated that it's at a maximum of 600M, so best case scenario it's 700M, most of which are farmers, physicists, and some of whom are biologists and chemists.
@@peterlohnes1basically their biologists failed as they couldn't come up with a crop variant that is immune to the disease they are stalling for time and quickly running out of options
@@ParrotPentester Because you simply just don't have nothing to eat. Direct nutrient injection, artificial food, or even artifical nutrient paste work just fine in these situation. It won't be tasting good but you won't need to literally abaddon the planet. Algae and and water base stuff also work just fine as replacement. We have enough of those cultivated inside laboratory to simply ignore any and all plant diseases happened outside.
To understand the difficulty in moving people into space, Lawrence Krauss did some math that its about 1000 times more difficult to live on mars than it is to live on the top of mount everest.
Plants were dying because of a combination of different issues. In particular, there were no polinizers. Only corn can polinite by itself using air. This is happening now. A lot of bees and other flying insects are dying because of fertilizers' quimical components.
@@T2MARA The planet has a shelf life so we have to learn how to get out of here. It also makes more sense to mine certain things in space rather than excavate and pollute earth. Learning about space IS fixing it.
I JUST watched this film for the first time and it was such an incredible piece of cinema..from the story telling to the visuals down to the acting it was spectacular 💯
Was a Hunger Games die-hard my whole life. About 1-2 years ago now, I saw interstellar for the first time. That IMMEDIATELY blew hunger games out of first place, making Interstellar my now favorite movie
@@nandansho dude, I am literally in university for astrophysics💀 I know my stuff too. What do you do? Complain all day and eat potato chips and ice cream while you cry about your regrets? Grow up and mind your own business
@@nandansho LOL you make me laugh bro. Your breathe stinks from all the sh*t you talk lol, you're videos are from 10 years ago LMAO. I can bet anything in the world you can't do what you "did" back then you "world champion". If you're such a world champion how come I can't find your name on the web or anything, you never succeeded you big failure LMAO You don't even know what I do so how about you stop judging and assuming all I do is play videogames. I dare you to come spend a day in my life and see if you can keep up ;)
Not really a mistake its explained more in the book, the ranger uses future engine tech it was always capable of leaving earth, so for me the question is why go throuigh the trouble of building a booster when you already have a reusable launch vehicle?
@@Human87563 No idea but they knew it would be the last launch, the mission was to restart the human race on another planet not to come back, no need to worry about space junk if everyone on earth is dead.
I think they did pursue the interstellar travel because the wormhole appeared on the movie on a perfect time. If the wormhole did not appear there in the first place, there wouldn’t have been Lazarus mission and they would send spaceships there. But any scientist that was faced with a sudden appearance of a wormhole would travel into it one way or another. Especially during a time when extinction is imminent on earth and humans are desperate to survive. I am Sure the blight thing is still being solved during that time but i remember they also said that corn and other crops will soon die down. So it is just scientific to not look for one option and put effort in a single basket. You have to look for other solutions and if youre faced with a magical appearance of a wormhole, you’ll grab that chance as well
Sure, but what could be worse than a plot hanging on a totall random deus ex machina event? Why not invent other fantasy elements, too... like 5D Tesserakts, "love" as the central power of the universe, ...
It wasn't the plants that were dying because of plants there was an environmental change which caused a lot of problems the least being that plants were dying. The change in atmosphere caused increasing amounts of heat to accumulate which allowed the deserts to encroach further which caused dust storms to ravage other areas. It was some kind of atmospheric disturbance which cascaded into them not having a choice but to find somewhere else to call home.
@@varminthevermin8371 because in the movie all of the scientists everywhere could not figure out what was causing all of the damage and after a few years of not being able to determine this and only having so much time left they decided to find somewhere else because they already had more knowledge on how to terraform another planet because they had been working on that technology already so they just had to make a ship which could carry the last of humanity
@@varminthevermin8371 the problem probably the sun, which you cannot fix it. so their last option is to move to another planet that within the goldilocks zone.
It wasn’t just about the blight, the atmosphere had changed to where the biologists were constantly fighting blight that was affecting all plant life. Pay attention Neil
I agree with neil. The problem with teraforming as is with discovering uncharted territory is the unkown danger. Especially the geographical and environmental attritubtes to the location.
They just got done fighting a war, it’s pretty clear that government incompetence was rampant because whoever won wasn’t the smartest. It’s conceivable that the blight had been engineered and the creators lost to the war. Fun fact the American chestnut tree was whipped out by blight. It’s an amazing tree look it up.
This movie was not so much about the crops dying but the love between a father and daughter has for each other across universe. You know the 5th element in science that most people says don't belong. 😅
The blight, as they describe it, seemed to be of extra-terrestrial origin. It arrived on a meteor if I'm not mistaken. It worked different from all other fungal and microbial life on earth as it utilized the gaseous nitrogen in the atmosphere directly. That is one of the problems that made it hard to deal with. There were no normal metabolic pathways to exploit with fungicides that would keep it in check.
Glad Neil acknowledged the movie is like the best space movie ever.I love that movie in a crazy way. It's still my best movie ever. Every music, tone, act, story, fiction in the movie is just perfect. The black hole part is satisfyingly satisfying. No one has ever been in a black hole but no scientist has been able to describe it better than the movie.
Obviously they have tried everything to stop the blight but they can’t that’s why they HAD to build the ship and leave. They didn’t leave instead of fixing it.
That’s his whole point. If they’re smart enough to travel across the universe and terraform another planet, fixing the blight on their planet should have been comparatively incredibly cheaper and easier.
@@NS-ie2ld They werent smart enough to do any of that though, they launched a rocket into space and just hoped, (aliens?) transported them across the universe and they never terraformed anything, its like saying US went to the moon but cant cure cancer 60 years later so its obviously fake because biology is soooo much easier.
You're the one that chose to watch Neil in the first place. If you didn't want to hear his opinion, you can just scroll away, or is that too difficult for your small mind to comprehend?
It's not a blight in the crops, it's a bacteria, harmless to humans, which has evolved in a way as a waste product it creates compounds that alter the atmospheres composition, that is what's causing the dust. So it's a bit more complicated than that
Neil got it wrong here, the wormhole was created by the advanced cilvilation and it would be suprising if human could not detect it by a telescope. Shipping a billion people was not challenging because the quantum data from the black hole helped them to go to the space against the gravity. So, its no wonder that the biologist couldnt stop the crops dying . 😊
I thought the whole story was just a dream of the main character while he was uncouncious when the plain crashed in the verry first scene. That is why he is in a long tunnel with bright light in the final scene and not in a space ship. His daughter is making the same dream, but on earth, she is just going crazy. You can actually see that she was imaginating the whole thing because everybody around her comfort her like you comfort a child. Telling her that everything will be all right and that she will save the world while being more depressed than ever because they know the truth : humanity is doomed and there is no worm hole and no way to save it. PS : It is actually my mother's theory, so she deserves all the credits😅.
In a recent episode of Star Talk they said that the strength of the planet's time dilation effect means the planet is so close to the black hole, it would never have a stable orbit.
i think the measure issue was the land of earth which was dying and hence were so many sand storms so if no land no crops , politely speaking if i am wrong please let me know
Yeah, you're not wrong. The sand storms were a big reason that crops wouldn't grow anymore. Biologists couldn't have done anything about the weather and climate...
The biologists in that movie probably believed men could be women so any further scientific endeavors after that class were just highly misunderstood and misleading.
I once saw a series about terraforming Mars. One of the conclusions was "to understand how to terraform another planet, we first need to figure out how that stuff works on Earth"
I think interstellar clarified it. The farmers were lot scarce. 1. insane efforts were required to even maintain the farm. The crops can die any time. 2. Blight’s main issue was not crops, it was that it affected and ruined all the major forests including the Amazons. 3. This is same issue as wildfire after a certain point can’t be stopped. 4. In this case Earth was loosing the oxygen faster than it can make. 5. It’s actually easier to make a rocket than figuring out how to make more Oxygen/ instant forests on a dying planet.
4. is total BS. Cyano-Bacteria needed some billion years to oxidize all available iron, and then add 20% of free oxygen to the atmosphere. It is impossible to use up all the free oxygen in a few years. And it would be much easier to reduce the iron oxide to iron and oxygen, than all that shit happening in interstellar. Interstallar makes only sense if you twist real physics to some fantasy "new frontier" flic, where the future is a reactionary concrete station orbiting saturn, where corn is farmed like in the 50s, and so is the mindset. The whole movie is a horror show of failed film making.
Yes thats a valid point also one more point was that they knew out of 3 only 1 can support life but still they chose the planet with gravity dilation as their first choice they should have kept it for last And technically life around star which is continuously eaten by Black hole is impossible Dont know what they thought before going there
Wasn’t the wormhole sort of an anomaly that just luckily presented itself at the right time? It was convenient to do that because they’ve been studying that for years already. Fixing the crops problem would take more time.
There was a promising biologist, a botanist to be precise, his name Mark Watney AKA Mann, he had the fortune of getting trapped on planets. First he was trapped on Mars and was rescued. Again was stranded by cryostasis on a frigid cold planet. That man could have saved the crop disease if he's kept on the earth.
