as a 23 year old man I water my eyes at least 2-3 times during that movie. My favourite movie, I fcking love it probably gonna weatch it very soon again
@l p the only issue with that planet is that it orbits a black hole, but g forces on the planet are acceptable, so with the right conditions a.k.a. less water way more land organics etc. it kinda could
I always thought that Cooper completely disregarding his son, who arguably was the one character who missed him the most and kept sending him videos even when Murph stopped caring, was a really messed up thing to do.
Chris urquhart Have you never met Asians? I’m only half joking. In my culture, there’s at least a belief that both parents love and value the sons more. But I don’t think we should generalize. As a girl, I’m my mom’s favorite because she clashes with my brother. It’s different for every family.
Maybe that's part of the mystery of love too. You can't tell someone how or who to love. There are no discernible rules for feeling. However harsh or sentimental a bond or lack thereof is...
This was the last movie I watched with my daughter before she passed. We had lost her mother a year earlier so this is a very special and melochloly and sadness. To Melissa daughter andvlisa mother and wife I love you both and my life has been forever changed since I lost y’all. I love you both always and forever! 💜🌹💚☮️☮️☮️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹☮️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹☮️🌹y’all are missed and loved. Thank you for loving me. Love ALWAYS Brad
i pray for you so badly and am so so so sorry. All i wish is for your peace and happiness and know that they have theirs, together, and are watching over you and with you everyday. your love for them was felt and they’d want your love to carry you through all of it, to be given to the world as it was received; as they’re with you and within you through everything you do. i just lost my dad, my best friend,and my hero, to a 5 month battle of Stage 4 lung cancer, with 5 years of turmoil that my family never fully came to peace with. Yet that grief that’s felt so heavy feels as though it’s nothing compared to the bravery and strength you’ve had to continue to believe and follow a path after such a fucked up tragedy. You’ll be in my prayers Brad. Know that youre carried by the love of your angels and your strength is limitless
Jim Cameron I bought the movie the same year my wife and I were married. I lost mine in 77 and got married 97 and lost here 2017. I’m sorry about your mom. She will always be with you. Stay strong and well! MAY PE💜CE B WITH U.
@@bradrainwater8056 Greetings from Germany i am very sorry for your lost too, she died few days after Lady Diana and 2017 died my Dad too, stay at home (i you can) and be strong.
I always cry during these scenes: 1. Murph trying to convince her father to STAY. 2. Coop watching 23 years of video messages. 3. Coop screaming "don't let me leave, Murph" in the tesseract. 4. Old Murph saying "Because my dad promised me". I cry a lot apparently.
I just saw it, I was thinking that watching videos to discover 23 years' worth of your family's life is a terrible idea Obviously the files were available and I understand Cooper's need to know, but it's no wonder it destroys him psychologically to watch his son's life on fast forward
@@thaddeus3931 But it was something he needed to do. His whole plan was to find a habitable planet to save the people already living on Earth, especially his family. So you could imagine that after losing 23 years, the first thing he wanted to know was if his children were alright. The terribleness of seeing his children grow into adulthood outweighed the torture of not knowing what happened to them.
@@kik0le my thought was that the best thing to do if this was a real situation would have been not to watch them all in one go, these events take years to process in real-time for a parent
TARS is interesting. I cant remember any AI in movies that handled emotions so rationally as TARS. Seems like he understood them better than the rest of the puppets in the movie.
Zooq Pose apparently it was written based on Nolan saying it was about a parent-child relationship. They had no idea it was in space etc.... absolutely brilliant composing.
I actually felt that the son deserved some acknowledgement at the end because he was a good son all the way. I, too, almost teared up when his Cooper saw the son all grown up after waking up.
I understand his character as cattle. People that will follow orders without questioning if they even make sense, like in these days people praise politicians for making dumb decisions and stand by them even in the verge of chaos. The most recent example of this is the EU bullshit about clean energy that ultimately led to them being out of energy and having a risk of dying of cold in the winter because of ESG bullcrap. If the son was a person these days, he'd be the one following blindly the bad decisions instead of questioning and seeking for better answers, like the daughter did.
@Peter Lustig well, that's just your opinion, man. Your inability to really appreciate the concept of exploration and the symbolism behind it and the idea of the unknown doesn't really make it stupid.
@@Gogglesofkrome the love thing is extremely dumb though. It's not that people just aren't "appreciating the concept of exploration," it's that the sacrifice and efforts that the movie wants to make you appreciate are completely undercut by "love transcends logic" bs. The film acts like love is some kind of magical force (instead of just hormones and etc. for the purpose of social cohesion as Matthew McConaughey's character posits) and basically says "fuck you actual science, the power of love will save us!" Everything was good up until that point and I literally cringed from how dumb that scene is. I'm a huge Nolan brothers fan and I think they are some of the best filmmakers ever, but that plot point pretty much ruins everything else in the movie. Imagine if in "The Martian" instead of using ingenuity, science, and the combined efforts of all mankind, Mark Watney manages to survive on Mars because he learns to use the force and uses his magic space powers to get off the planet. That'd be dumb, and it's just as dumb in Interstellar.
@@GeneralTaco155555a they didn't say that it transcended logic; they were just vague with it, and definitely didn't need to include that soap box scene with it. I'm sure it sounded wholesome in the drawing room, but the implementation of that particular idea didn't really turn out too well. I personally interpreted it as it meaning that 'love was a powerful emotion, to the point that it influenced their actions and lives even from beyond countless light years away through a wormhole,' which made more sense due to the context that relativity, and spacetime overall had on the film. Thankfully, I didn't come to the movie looking for a love story, so it wasn't really much of a take-away for me.
It was mind blowing the first time. I went in surprised it wasn't filmed in 3d., but was glad it wasn't once I'd watched it. I very much kept myself from reading anything about it and went in cold, and absolutely loved it. Swore when it came out on blu ray I'd buy it the first day and I did. But I made the mistake of watching it on mushrooms. The whole thing fell apart, you can see the actors waiting for their queues all throughout. So I tried it on acid and it was...tepid. I can't even watch it sober now. The first time in the theatre I remember the kid coughing and saying "it's the dust" and thinking how out of place it was, how cheesy but the rest of the film got me. Now the thin veil, having been lifted, feels thick and impossibly heavy. While I wanted to go back initially I'm unable to return even owning the film.
I think there's an element we're missing in the "love" aspect of the story. There are two scenes where the crew of the _Endurence_ are trying to decide which planet to explore. Both times one member of the crew has an emotional reason for their position - Coop doesn't want to go to Miller's planet first because just visiting it will cost them so much time, and he wants to save his family as quickly as possible, and then Brand wants to go to Wolfe's planet because she was in love with Wolfe. Both times they end up going against the emotional one, specifically _because_ the emotional one has an emotional reason for their choice, and both times it ends in disaster. The message I got wasn't "We can quantify and use love", it was that we shouldn't try to exclude our emotions entirely from our decisions. In attempting to make an 'objective' decision, the team actually ended up making their own emotional decisions, and they were the _wrong_ decisions. Science is our tool for understanding the universe, but we're still _humans._
Excellent. I took the same message home when i saw this movie. And this is the prime reason that i love this movie so much. No other science movie has caught the essense of "Love" and its power as this one.
Without those disasters Coop would have never fallen into the black hole and Murph would have had no ghost. Though even with that aspect covered, the entire movie is an irreconcilable paradox.
The emotional pull of that sacrifice made me realize why people believe in the whole Jesus thing. Fucking hell the moment anne realized what he was upto got me good.
@@johnp.smithasimpleman7281 Small black holes (around the size of 5 solar masses) can spaghettify objects the size of humans. This is because their strong tidal force is much "shorter", meaning that objects slightly closer to small back holes will experience a dramatic increase of gravitational pull compared to objects that are slightly further away, so, if say you're falling feet first into a small black hole your feet experience greater acceleration than your head, essentially stretching you, thus spaghettification. This effect is greatly exaggerated when closer to the singularity. For small black holes, spaghettification often happens before entering the event horizon. Supermassive black holes (around the size of 100 million solar masses) also have strong tidal forces but only near the singularity. Unlike the event horizon, the singularity doesn't increase in spatial size when adding more mass to it. So the extreme tidal forces remain very close to the singularity, allowing us to safely cross the enlarged event horizon and still be far away from its singularity. Realistically speaking Cooper could've died in many more different ways. Like the accretion disk, for example, which judging by its size was probably very hot (hotter than the sun) and producing a lot of deadly radiation. Another way could've been the ridiculous velocities at which they were traveling. More speed (in the vacuum of space) means more radiation, which originates from the cosmic microwave background. With increased speed this cosmic microwave background can be blue-shifted into x-ray like radiation and the rise in velocity means you collect more of it in a shorter period of time within your own perspective. Also we don't know what's inside the event horizon of a black hole, we only have guesses. It is commonly said that conventional physics breakdown inside the event horizon so we are unsure as to whether it's impossible to experience what Cooper did on his journey. Maybe one day we'll know for sure, who knows.
I think that the "love transcendents everything" line is way too often misunderstood. Nolan wanted to show us that emotionality is not a weakpoint of ourselfes if we embrace it and that even the most rational people (scientists) can't deny that they have that emotional side in them. The film was a lot about rational vs emotional decisions (fly to doctor mans planet or to edmunds) and showed that to make the right decisions you need to balance out those two sides. When she said the line that was her being completely irrational and we all knew including the characters that what she said was dumb. That is what Nolan wanted us to think about. She didn't balance the two sides. The fact that Edmunds planet was the right one in the end has nothing to do with her being in love and was completely random and it would have been completely irresponsible of them to follow her cue to listen blindly to her emotions. Another example about this conflict is the decision Dr. Mann has to make. Note how he is literaly called man (in german). We judge him for putting his emotionality (choosing not to die but endangering humankind) over his rationality(dying and thus saving humankind) so it is not embraced by the movie to blindly put emotionality over rationality. And that is one of the big points of the movie in my opinion.
This is such a well written explanation. When I saw that scene, I doubted that Nolan wouldn’t see the clunkiness in that dialogue about love, but this explains it well.
I got a D in 10th grade on a subjective written paper. No explanation, just one missed comma and the D were the only two things written on the paper. I guess he didnt like my story? :P Same teacher, last test of the year was objective with right/wrong answers. Nailed it and scored close to 100%
^ I think what they were trying to say was that it’s mostly deep, but the love part might’ve been a dumb move. That’s the most definitive answer they have.
“Interstellar” genuinely blew my mind and opened up my eyes upon first viewing, it’s one of my top 5 favorite movies and I hope they make more like it because space movies are one of my favorite genres!
It sort of mirrors 2001 Space Odessy in a way. The future beings are humans that have evolved so far ahead and are leading someone towards that and saving them. Has anyone else made that connection? Just a random thought
The "love transcends time and space" was pretty cringey, but it was just one character's opinion. It happened to lead to the right choice, but that doesnt mean anything - it was 50%-50%. Characters are allowed to have flawed opinions in movies. Nothing was proven. Now if they had PROVED that love transcends time and space, that would have been awful :P
I agree. Cooper clearly didn’t believe in it until the end, at which point it was quite plausibly explained. The movie probably should have communicated better that it was but a broken heart’s wild theory until the end. Just like thanos should have been portrayed crazier than he is shown to be in avengers. The killing half the universe was so dumb that the movie should have really dwelled on the fact that thanos really was crazy instead keep telling us he actually kinda had a point. Interstellar made the same mistake. I think both are forgivable considering the rest of the film.
THANK YOU. That is the only statement that should be used to end this stupid arguing about the love thing. It was clearly said that it was only a suggestion that we could not explain even if it was correct. Also, the fact that in the end it seems like love can actually link people trough space and time, still does not prove anything, because there is no cause-effect explanation given. Love bringing together people through space and time is only an act of faith, an attempt to make sense about something nobody can understand.
@@kevinforney5311 Love is natural because we evolved as social animals. This makes it unlikely that mental states like love can be outside of our own mind. Science would certainly have found out if people could communicate telepathically with love.
I think you have Murphy's Law wrong. It isn't a pessimistic outlook on life. What it means is that if it is possible for something to go wrong, given enough time, something will go wrong. Murphy's Law is stating that if you do something enough times and it is possible for that thing to go wrong, then it eventually will go wrong. Coop's representation of Murphy's Law is more accurate to what it actually means that the layman understanding of Murphy's Law. Murphy's Law isn't about pessimism, it is a factual statement about how every possibility will happen given enough iterations.
That is actually very clever of the film to state. I always thought of Murphys Law to mean a pessimistic outlook on the potential outcomes of an action. Thanks.
I can’t believe it took me 5 years to finally see this movie. I just saw it last night, and I was absolutely awestruck. Definitely one of my favorite movies
you are a fucking dipshit ,and garbage human........interstellar is dumb and infantile , the sci and fi part together equals a fuckin zero in this movie
When you’re a father to a special little girl you watch this movie from a different perspective My daughter and I watch this all the time It’s our favourite movie
My oldest daughter had seen every Chris Nolan films except this one because she said the previews didn't look good till I rented after family dinner and she was in tears through the whole movie!
My daughter is 22 months old in 5 days. I will watch this with her when she is ready, regardless of the fact it will be nearly 10-15 years old. It is Nolan's greatest work (imho) and I believe it will stand the test of time.
I watched this movie before and after I had a child in with very different opinions about it in my head. The very simple (because it happens all the time) act of having a child changes what this movie means for a lot of people.
The future humans in the tesseract needed Cooper's love for Murph to show them the right moment in time to send her messages that would enable her to solve the gravity equation, like the video says. The gravity equation, in turn, made it possible to lift many (perhaps all) surviving humans into space colonies (I have always assumed that the one we see at the end of the film is NOT the only one. When you have one, you can use it to build another, and then use those to build two more, and so on. The intervening decades would have been time enough to build a LOT of colonies in the solar system, and anti-gravity technology would make it simple to lift the needed materials off Earth, Ceres, or wherever). But WHY did the future humans need the emotional connection? I figure it's because they needed to use a high-quality memory of the time and place, stored in the patterns of Coop's brain. He and the robot, having fallen into a very large black hole, would exist as patterns of information on the surface of the event horizon, and it is this information that the future humans worked with. The tesseract is simply how HE experienced it. His memories, combined with the needed data about gravity, enabled the sending of a crude message in the dimension we call time, and it may have failed many times (if we subscribe to many-worlds theories of quantum physics) but the survivors would experience the timeline where the message succeeded and future humans existed to send it.
He died when he went into the blackhole...everything that happened...happened in Coopers death dream...what was real? That Dr. Brand never planned for them to save the people of earth and THEY NEVER DO...the people of earth died and Amelia starts the human race on Edmunds planet...Cooper Died...everything you see on earth is Coopers death dream...all of it.
Ok, there is something you ignored when making the video. Matthew Mcconaughey' caracter, Joseph Cooper (JC), as you said, is an anallogy to Jesus Christ (JC); Do you remember what Jesus said about love?: “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Don't you think that if we really loved one another, leaving evil, envy and selfishness aside, we would advance more as humanity? Don't you think that if we recognize ourselves within a group, that of being human, and truly love ourselves, without distinctions of races or flags, we will be able to survive in spite of everything? Maybe Cooper is being guided by the love of his daughter and Amelia is being guided by the love of her lover, but Romilly, Doyle and the other astronauts, who have no family or ties, are being guided by another type of love: love for humanity. So, Christopher Nolan is making us a statement of the importance of love in the advancement and survival of humanity, an idea that departs from religion. But on the other hand, it clearly shows us another atheistic / agnostic reasoning: Humanity does not need that a God come to solve our problems and save us but that it is we, humanity, who are going to save ourselves. In conclusion, Christopher Nolan is using religious and non-religious discourses to explain the path that humanity must follow to achieve survival throughout eternity. So yes, I believe that Interstellar is a masterpiece, that it does not have an inch of foolishness and that in fact it is one of the deepest films that have been made.
OK that's the exact opposite of the moral of that whole movie, which was that humanity is it's own god. That there are no higher beings. Humans are both deified and reduced to tools to further the species. This was the result of some man's unchecked ego. Every line of it is pretentious, overexplained, contradictory, and nausiating. And plan B made no sense. Why even create more humans to populate another earth? If you're a godless scientist, saving humanity would be saving it's memories, not it's genetics. It is literally one of the most antichristian films I've seen. Full of self actualizing, self worshiping, self idolizing nonsense that wasn't even consistent or well thought out. If it sounded cool, they said it like it was biblical, even if it contradicted their message. Not a single character had a personality or acted consistently through the whole film. You could fill the voids that were their personalities, explain away their actions with guesses at their motives, but that's just you making up your own story. They asked a question in this movie, it was dressed up in sad relationships and cool space crap, but the question was: is there a higher power? And their answer was: we are the higher power.
Maybe when a movie like Interstellar is controversial, I believe it's because it's themes appeal a lot to the individual in a personal level. Our previous experiences count a lot. Also, the docking scene was thrilling!
I love this movie. The first time I saw it I hated it, but the second time I fell in love. It's not perfect, but man it renews my hope in humanity every time.
Interstellar is underrated the whole concept and whole blackhole and using relativity theory was genius something different. MASTERPIECE. more i grow i appreciate this movie more pretentious movie critic had criticism because it was mainstream but now this movie is something special
It isn't. It wants to be and that is something to admire, because most movies just want to get asses on cinema seats, but it misses the mark by some distance. It's not as thought provoking or as much fun as Inception, for example. It came close, maybe, but Nolan was going to make a dud eventually. I am not his greatest fan, I admit. I love The Prestige and I will always have time for Batman Begins and Inception (I enjoyed Dunkirk too), but Interstellar, nah, it did nothing for me. Great looking, no doubt about it, but it tried far too hard to be 'the next this or the next that'. A little bit 2001, a little 'the Black Hole'. Perhaps Nolan needed a bit of a let down. It must of worked because Dunkirk was enjoyable.
Gunbuster did it first. Sure, it's an anime for diehard weebs but the concept of time relativity being a factor to space travel was a major plot point and it came out in the 80's.
David Lean i think everyone perceives the “marvel” of space to a different degree. For me, the movie made me think of time, my humble insignificance within this unbelievably huge universe, and the beauty and magnificence of the black hole. It was an experience I never felt before except for maybe Carl Sagans documentaries. I feel like some people feel this strongly and some don’t, and this is a large part of the reason the audience is so split on interstellar
Err, time dilation had already been done in the first Planet of the Apes movie in the 60s and people flying into black holes was done in 2001 Space Odyssey (sort of) and the movie Black Hole. Hans Zimmer's Ost was special, yes, the rest is hust the usual Hollywood recycling ideas and blending them with themes for the casual audience.
I’ll tell you what went wrong. No character development before important moments. If Dany would’ve had 2 or 3 more episodes to go crazy, then people would’ve accepted it and not seen it as forced. The character development that was already there (Jaime’s arc) and the traits of the characters (Tyrion has always been strategic and smart) are ignored completely. The pseudo realism that was there is completely ignored (Dany taking out all of the scorpions in 5 minutes). Basically if the show had two full final seasons all of these problems could’ve been avoided by allowing characters to finalize their stories and plot lines. Instead we got rushed endings
G.R.R. Martin writes in outlines, broad strokes before meandering through them in depth. So when they hit the end of written material Martin was only able to give them the bones of the ending. So they shot for that ending and events as straight as possible, ignoring character development and expansion to the plot. So it feels rushed and shallow.
I wouldn't say it's dumb, but I also wouldn't go so far as to say it was a masterpiece. It has its moments, but as you've pointed out there are some conceptual flaws
Leonardo Datore Objectively I think they’re about the same, but love although dumb at first glance in Interstellar it really gave insight into what is truly not understood, in a universe where we can survive great odds using our imaginations. Whereas implanting an idea is more of a logical attempt at manipulating ones world to change their perceptions of others around them to study in a second dream, and navigate that plane to bring them in Deeper and essentially use that changed perception to have one formulate an idea on their own. Interstellar is still better though because is shows out humanity not our intelligence and influence over others through our ingenuity
I agree. I like it well enough, but it's long runtime felt bloated and just an excuse for more action scenes; Interstellar actually needed to be that long.
I thought the opposite. Interstellar seems a bit unfocused to me, or maybe restrained, as if it was meant to be twice it's run time but had to be smashed in a little box. Inception, on the other way, does everything it proposes to because it's a more simple and grounded story. It bites as much as it can chew.
I agree. Memento is a brilliant film esp. when you get to the end. Guy Pearce was phenomenal in his role. I'd place Memento far ahead of this movie IMO.
@Blue .Barrymore Please stop comparing this movie, or people's expressions of feelings it created, to 9/11. Apples and oranges are a more appropriate comparison than yours.
I remember it was snowing the night this movie came out. My friends and I saw the very last showing of the day. After it finished I stood outside and saw how bright the stars were that winter as we wandered alone in the quiet parking lot. How white the snow was, yet unfettered by the muck from the cars we'd created. Each flake was a kiss from the stars, so small. So insignificant, unique but easily lost, endless but limited, so quick to melt, fade, and be forgotten. I held my hand out to touch these kisses, and realized we were one in the same. I was a giant holding a spark of light. So tiny, fragile, and precious. As we looked at each other, I wondered as I saw my reflection in it's fading puddle if it had ever asked these questions too. We were alone together. Just us... The kiss from the stars and I. The movie definitely did its job.
@@seribelz beer and writing/media serve two very different pragmatic functions though. However if you're using either for entertainment, then yeah, if you can get drunk off of the beer it WOULD be good. Depends on what you're using the item for. It's all subjective.
Cooper obviously had some knowledge of science but he wasn't a physicist, he was a pilot. He may have understood the concepts while missing the deeper nuances.
@@infinitypilot That's what I have to tell myself to keep from spoiling an otherwise brilliant movie. When I first heard that dialogue, I was got this image in my head of a meeting between the studio and Nolan "You need to tell the audience what a black hole is." "I think anybody interested in the movie already knows." "OK, but put in an explanation any way if you want funding." Thus really obvious exposition was created.
@@infinitypilot It wasn't for him, the exposition was for the audience. Nolan seemed to go through a phase of that. There's a lot of smart little pictograms on show so the audience gets the info needed to understand the story arc.
I think it's a film the swung for the fences and struck out in a few places, but I still love the originality and the ideas Nolan tries to convey. Also the docking scene after Mann blows the airlock is an incredible sequence. I get if people didn't like it, but I love it personally.
Nolan's films come across as intellectually superficial, where as Kubrick's films tend toward emotional superficiality. In my opinion, their styles are diametrically opposed
The thing is they're right to a degree. I love sci-fi and all the space travel stuff, but we would be extinct before we could make it more difficult to rehab earth than it would be to relocate or terraform another planet. A lot of sci-fi seems to be very escapist as opposed to solution oriented. We can't just all blast off to a new home, there isn't one in our solar system and if there is one outside our solar system the best we could (in quite a few decades of technological advances) hope to send is a small colonist ship to start a fledgling population, which does no good for everyone left behind.
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Love was simbolized by the watch, it made the connection between Cooper and his daughter tangible and accessible. It's pretty obvious and simple really. He doesn't have to search for the exact moment, just for the watch to send the data. Love made he give the watch to her (trying to appeal to her scientific curiosity to ease her pain). And even hating what her father did, she would keep and observe it closely because it was her father's parting gift. So I disagree about the "love is not defined as well as other things" in the movie. Love was just the way for Cooper to find a way to send the message against impossible odds. That's what the "aliens" used in their equation to save humanity. It may be somewhat corny but it works beautifully in the story. But yeah, as with any other movie or story, it's as deep or dumb as your own expectations and experiences make it to be. For me the movie is just brilliant, on so many levels that everytime I rewatch it I notice a new little thing. The last one was that their ship, Endurance, is shaped like a clock face.
Thank you! this needed to be said. people are getting way too hung up on the clunky writing of the Anne Hathaway love monologue and totally missing the bigger picture. Sure, they could've articulated that better, but FFS can we appreciate how unbelievably ambitious this film was in every way?
If a director builds a scene around a concept or theory, that's great. It contributes to the depth of the work. But exposing it out in the open is a way of mistreating the audience and turning a movie into a scientific paper (even in an sci article you shouldn't deviate that much by explaining concepts that you are referring to). For example, if the whole Quantified Love thing weren't spat out by Anne Hathaway, it would have been a lot more satisfying to realize its meaning through the movie, and it would be also a more fitting way to talk about such an ambiguous topic. So yeah, not dumb but could have easily been a lot deeper.
You see Kubrick was cold & objective, seemingly suggesting that humanity will never change their violent ways. Though he presents just a bit a hope with the Starchild, more or less saying that humanity must transcend their ways. These themes are present in most of his filmography. Nolan on the other hand went for something more emotional & soulful, spiritual almost. Rather than just telling us to evolve, he offers a clear pathway. He makes it clear that humanity will transcend eventually anyway, plan A or B, humanity would still survive. But how and/or why, because of Love. In a way Interstellar is a response to 2001 & Kubrick.
@@thewriterforge Not to troll you, but calling yourself 'the writer's society' and then failing to use punctuation and spelling correcly is a bit dumb. Not a troll, just an observation.
I'd agree with most of what you said about Kubrick. However, it'd be unjust to leave out what 2001 gets you to begin thinking about. Will man get past violence? What will man evolve into? Can man rely on technology? And more. Interstellar does make me feel more because of the human relationships, and that is definitely important. If I can criticize Interstellar, it does come off more "Hollywoody", with its more usual ending. Both are incredible movies that I'm so happy exist.
Isn't it fascinating how often American directors like to **RUIN THEIR MOVIES** in the last fifteen minutes with dripping, stilted and dragged out sentimentality...
My favorite part about this movie is the whole time/relatively aspect and Black holes have always interested me. The fact that you can age only a few hours, when someone who’s further away from the singularity will age years and years just completely blows my mind and it’s even crazier to think that shit like that is realistic! Such a good movie
maybe true but the best part in the movie for me was when Cooper was stuck in that crazy looking dimension between his daughter's book shelf. I almost thought he might jump out of there and land directly in front of Jessica Chastain for some funny reason. that really made me crack a smile. like some old-school cartoon show. Looney Tunes.
yeah but how about we leave it when it's naturally unhabitable because of the sun's radiation instead of 100 years from now because we made it unhabitable
@@UnitZER0 Don't get me wrong I'm not against space exploration but that doesn't mean that we should abandon the idea of maintaining our planet. The earth is pretty saveable and will probably cost way less than inhabiting mars or trying to develop technologies for interstellar travel
@@alexiskaraf231 The propaganda of earth somehow magically becoming 'uninhabitable by GlObAl WaRmInG/ClImAtE ChAnGe/etc in x Years' has been going on for decades. People have been saying since the 70's that the world would end by the 2000's due to it, and yet here we are, chugging along. Our planet has never actually held a stable climate throughout it's life, as seen through the evidence that we have of our planet being at one point completely covered in ice, and in another with there being not a single ice cap on the entire planet, at around roughly the time of the dinosaurs. Regardless of whether or not humans have held a direct impact on the change of the planet's temperature, we've already reached a point where it's too late to stop it. There is nothing that we can do to fix it unless massive swaths of the population ceased to exist, since they're the one thing that's driving for the demand of so many pollutants across the world, and that will only happen when someone's psychopathic enough to actually try it, and I'm not exactly excited at the prospect of some centralized extragovernmental entity picking and choosing who gets to die. As such I figure that the only solution would have to be to colonize space with the goal of providing ourselves more living space that we can use to spare ourselves the trouble of living on earth, or better yet, to help prevent the destruction of it.
I did not really understand why this video is titled deep or dump, when all you are doing is justifying why this is a good movie. The love thing in the movie is just as confusing as in real life. That was the whole point.Nolan probably never really attempted to find an answer to it. It was just a "food for thought " stuff. Just a commentary on a very weird idea.
Vinay Sharma I think the whole point is that the future humans have access to infinite time and space bug they couldn’t find the right time or place to communicate with murph - they needed cooper to do because only he knew murph well enough to be able to transmit to her at the right time and place - coding the watch. The reason is that their love meant she would always go back to their home for his Hamilton 👍
@@the_bottomfragger They're both movies about humanity in the grander scheme of the cosmos given perspective through the smaller story of individuals, with time shenanigans that end up centering around the theme of love.
Agreed…Interstellar is a mediocre film with a big budget..a few things: a. Humor is juvenile b. Story telling is done by characters telling the audience consistently what is going on scientifically c. The “dust bowl” earth was not believable d. Mathew’s acting and lines were histrionic and pedantic e. The robot was completely impractical..a prop yes, but a functioning useful piece of tech absolutely not This was an OK movie with a big budget, however poor writers…
The film is great, but stumbles when it comes to the love stuff... instead of that monologue from Hathaway's character, it should have been more subtle.
With the possible exception of the whole love thing, I think interstellar has the best/most accurate depiction of the 5th dimension in any popular media I'm familiar with
J_ J I think Nolan considered it but ultimately omitted coop asking about him because his son had moved on and the doctor telling him that his daughter was on her way implied that he was no longer alive. It may just me justifying to myself why he didn’t ask about him.
@Justin Pelsy If he lacks creativity? Absolutely not. I think he's done some of the most engenius films of the past 20 years with great concepts. I just think he has a major handicap in dialogue, you can see it in the Dark Knight where they are always speaking with speeches. His brother, Jonathan, has a much better handle of it in stuff like Westworld, but can't convey complex topics as well as Nolan. I think.
@@afonsolucas2219 you are so right he always talk about something and not showing it second he fool it self by pretend deep see movies like inception after all talks about run to world dream the movie really about usual action prestige all the movie is about man seek revenge until the end and then boom the movie about how far can man go hunting it dream he didn't tell the brothers story he tell the husband story and nothing will change that
all that "whats the point in loving dead people?" is an absurd question, evolution does not have a purpose or design, adaptative traits are just that, she sounds a bit creacionist
I loved it. But roll my eyes at some people's interpretations it lent itself to. Very basically, I'm all for the celebration of human emotion and love, but when it comes to the scientific solutions we need to sustain our civilization... LOVE, in fact, is not all you need. but try telling that to my mom
@@ohhimark3691 I have no disagreement with your first sentence. it's true, there are a great many different things that people do because they love someone or something or an ideas. every day people make extremely bold to extremely passive choices to act in ways which I may judge as very altruistically noble or very selfish or irrationally harmful, because of the the passionate affinity they feel for a nation or a god, or for a lover or for children, or for a pet or property or a landmark or natural ecosystem, or love of an ideology or humanity, or love of being alive, etc. As for the question which I guess is meant rhetorically, I'd need to understand better what you're referring to if I'm to give a response or get your meaning. for instance, when you ask "if *it isn't for love..." What does "it" refer to? Also, in which sense are you questioning what we are ? Objectively we can say we are eukaryotic living organisms, and we are mammals, and we are apes, and humans, and we are mostly male or female individuals... if you mean something like what we should value about who we are, or what we ought to be, I could offer an opinion like we should be morally principled, and we should base our morality on a hierarchy of objective including survival and maximal fulfilling prosperity for as many as possible. And to serve a fundamental morality in line with this, it helps if we can act compassionately, and fostering love of others is one emotional state that can help with that. Logical thinking and rational diplomacy are other key assets for pursuing our moral goals. But what did You mean that ?
I think love should be included as part of the religious imagery. Love is essential to systematic theology, to christian imagery and to relational ontology of the trinity. Wouldn’t not have a seperate third about it, it just seems like an oversight.
Love is not a christian exclusive concept, it was not linked to the religious imagery in the movie, and the rule of three is usually the best way to break down ideas without saying too little or too much.
@@cabrondemente1 Of course! Bend time, revive people, whatever your bad plot needs. I hated it in the Matrix and i hate it here. Love is the new Deus Ex Machina...
I first watched this movie massively overtired starting at like 3 AM, so it was deep AF for me. Also has an amazing soundtrack that helps with the deepness feeling
@@bdale5231 And yet they act like an entire mission into space by experts is being led by nobody and crewed by a team that doesn't know how science works in their respective fields. And the excuse is, "so the audience can understand." What a storytelling cop out.
This movie is really deep and has a lot of heartbreaking moments. Probs one of the only movies ever that make the characters show and feel more emotions
One interesting look into the love subject may be provided by Jung's psychological theory. Love is the "primordial force", that drives the psyche through life. Jung places love in opposition to fear. Love is the psychological experience that drives a person towards anything in the world, that might be an object, a person or an idea; and fear acts the opposite, driving a person away from something/someone. If we look at the "unknown" as a symbolic representation of the unconscious, love is what lead us to explore it, getting to know what we really are, as a person and as a species. If we fear the unknown, we fear the uncounscious, thus driving us away from getting to know ourselves and remain perceiving reality not as it is, but as our own fantasy.
I have a _Deep or Dumb_ request: Under the Silver Lake. STEEPED in symbolism, a surrealist neo-noir film that has an extremely polarizing effect. I'm curious as to your take. (It went direct to VOD on amazon because the studio didn't know what to do with it, if you're not sure where to watch).
There was a theory that after Cooper was out of the black hole, what happened after, is nothing more then what Dr Mann said :" when you die you see your children", the fact that Cooper didn't look for his son, and the family of Murph didn't even talk to him. suggest that it's all a dream ? I don't know, then again, Christopher Nolan did say that he knows what it means for him, and he doesn't want his views , getting in the way of what us viewers experience and understood form it.
16:37 It’s not him literally communicating with love, it’s him knowing what will get her attention, as he knows her. Also, I think the reason he realizes that humanity did this in the future is, that Murph telling the story of her room forward would mean future humanity knowing the significance of it. The ”love transcends time and space” scene was always pretty clear to me. From everything they know, Mann’s planet seems to be the safer option. Brand knows this, and her monologue is just an attempt to rationalize seeing a loved one again. It’s disregarded by the other characters as it is disregarded by the audience. Adding to this scene, it’s mentioned that the reason Edmund stopped sending messages could be a broken transmitter, but since that seems unlikely, they go to Mann who’s still transmitting. I like how they don’t spell out in the end that Brand either fixed the transmitter or had a new one, which is why Murph knows of Brand’s situation and why humanity is seemingly going to that planet. Anyway, I feel like everything in this film adds up, it’s emotional, it’s interesting and the visuals are breathtaking. My favorite from Nolan, Memento is just behind.
All I can say about the notion of love being nebulous is that psychology and sociology are complex af and like a matroyshka (probably spelled that wrong) doll. The more you dig in, the more you find. Most of medical psychology and psychiatry work by guessing solutions based off what we know and think we know. TLDR; Humans are weird because brains are weird.
The film also inforced coopers original approach to love as a form of social utility. This was done in the scene with Mann on the inhabitable planet, when he told Coop that the last thing we see before death is our kids, and this force of love pushes us to survive. By saying this Mann describes love as a form of survival. You can say that this theory was proven correct when Coop eventually survived Mann's attempt to kill him through his urge to survive, his urge to love, so in the film we see both varients of love: one as a form of utility and the other as a something we can't percieve. Everything that can happen will happen.
