He's one of those guys you start talking to at a party, and an hour later you've hardly gotten a word in and you have no idea why you're talking about Mongolians.
@@noahcalderon7751 No more odd than reality tv being popular. NDT toes the line, the MSM likes him, and he can dumb things down enough for children to not be overwhelmed. You only find it odd that he's popular because he's not for people with critical thinking skills. He's for people without them. Kind of like how no actual nerds watch Big Bang Theory.
Joe: '' 4 airmen have reportedly seen the same thing according to Navy pilot David Fravor...'' Neil: '' When was their last eyesight exam? When were the cockpits last cleaned? It might've been just a smudge on the lens''
Joe: 4 pilots saw it Neil: Was their eyesight checked? Joe: Yes Neil: Was their sanity checked? Joe: Yes Neil: Were pilots dads' instruments checked and calibrated when they were making the pilots? Joe: gives up...
well yo be fair between the late Roman Caesars and the Roman Catholic Church updating and realigning the calendar to remove a month and adjudicating a leap year and Benjamin Franklin adding in daylight savings, your birthday calendarically is quite likely several days off from where it truly is by the time your 50 years old. Not much different than Jesus’ birthday likely not actually being on December 25 but rather sometime in April
I’m a former Navy firefighter, and I’m at least very familiar with Naval maintenance on equipment, and aviation equipment is held to an INSANE standard. You should see how aviation maintenance is conducted. When planes are being worked on, EVERY.SINGLE. wire, screw, bolt, clamp, circuit…EVERY single solitary piece of the aircraft, AND the equipment/tools used to work on them, is inspected, calibrated, inventoried, logged, and reassembled to minuscule tolerances. If a single piece of something is leftover or fails a test, after it’s reassembled, every single part of the maintenance starts over again. The maintenance and pre-flight checks is ridiculously stringent and tedious. Every time. It HAS to be. That’s how they catch all these defects or faulty parts. There’s absolutely no room for laziness. They’re calibrated and checked and double-checked constantly. These are our primary lines of defense for the United States. Now, is it possible that these pre-flight checks were gundecked? Sure, but that’s a big “if”, and this was caught by MULTIPLE POINTS planes on MULTIPLE occasions. This argument simply doesn’t hold water.
yeah but even with all that the alien story by fraver is still bs. Not a single respectable scientist has come forward to even investigate his claims cos it's that dumb.
There's a very healthy lesson in NDT's skepticism; if more people questioned, sourced and better analyzed the things they see and read online and in life in general, there'd be much less stupidity and division in this world.
Hard to do that when you have a massive corporate media apparatus, with a political agenda, not only unwilling to provide unbiased facts, but actually guilty of distorting the facts. Whether it be for a political of financial reason. Example... Pretty hard to get the facts on the COVID vaccine, when the news is brought to you by Pfizer, and if the news organization is staffed with the spouses and former political staff, of an administration, they're not going to give you information that would hurt their own friends, and family. (That happens to be the case with most of the corporate media) You'll get one spouse working for the DOJ, and the other for CNN, etc.
Interview with one of the RADAR operators in the Nimitz fleet: After spotting these anomalies, we checked the calibration of the system and even rebooted it and the anomalies were still there. Also, they appeared on different RADARs.
@@sgtcaco Ok they forgot recalibrate, but from what i have seen interviews that objects are there over days and months, even years. So i think its pretty certain somone recalibrated the system in that time. So your story is moot for the whole thing.
I think he just have a really great attention span compared to other hosts of podcasts and shows. I noticed he really listens because he easily recalls what his previous guests said with details.
Haha yeah 30 over is probably not debatable no matter how badly calibrated the speed gun is but still, maybe worth arguing if it was close. They should be able to prove the gun was calibrated.
@@OhNoMrKoolaidMan I’m pretty sure the Navy calibrated their instruments when they are spending enormous amounts of money on a training exercise involving 7 or more ships with the accompanying aircraft too!
@@indigosunset70 crazy thing is, it's expanding even MORE exponentially than the universe! So if it isn't stopped soon, who knows what will happen? He needs some shrooms or something
If I was an alien and I wanted people to stop poking around.. Neil is the guy I would have talk the way he’s talking right now. He’s definitely in on it
@@GrizzlyTank actually it can, as a former EMT when we wrote reports we had to be very specific of what we say, we can’t say “the patient was drunk” because in court the patients lawyer could argue if “were experts in drinking or drunks”, so instead we have to put something like “the patient smelled or alcohol” or “the patient seemed intoxicated” but even then they can argue how could you tell without proper tests.
@@asmodeus1738 That's what blood tests and breathalyzers are for. Same with a radar gun. All of which are sensors to determine if someone is over the limit or not. My point is that if there is hard data to back up a claim, it would be very difficult to get out of that ticket unless you can prove that the sensors are faulty. Which actually did come in handy for me once I got a lawyer to argue that the machine has 10% room for error which ultimately got me a lower fine, but I still had to pay the ticket and got a strike on my record.
Lol this is so true. It’s the most common way a lawyer will get you out of a speeding ticket is to find out when the last time the cops sensor gun was calibrated.
@KLEOS If you're book is good, people will buy it and tell others to buy it. You should focus your time and energy on real writing instead of low-return RU-vid posting.
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 Science has demonstrated quite well if the frequencies are kept at the lower spectrums of the allowed bandwidth they are safe with lower wattages doe the close ones. I truly hope that strong standards ar mad for them to be SAFE
One thing that scientists like Tyson always ignore is this: if there are intelligent beings that are visiting us, they have figured out interstellar travel. It still, to this day, takes us HOURS to travel across our own planet. If they are here, they figured out interstellar travel, which means our "laws of physics" or whatever, don't even begin to apply anymore. It's not even Columbus vs Indians. It's ants vs Humans, only we are the ants. Have you ever tried to talk to an ant?? But we still study them.
One problem with Neil's argument: When Navy pilots encounter these objects through their sensors, it's more than one person sometimes. Multiple pilots flying near each other are witnessing the same anomaly. All their sensors can't be malfunctioning or picking up nothing. The one spotted over Lake Huron a few months back following the shooting down of the Chinese spy balloon, according to one pilot, had strings dangling from the bottom and wasn't shaped like a weather balloon. These pilots can easily differentiate between a weather balloon or even a spy balloon, and something completely unknown. The other problem is that the footage of these sightings by pilots are mostly confidential still. The three shot down following the Chinese spy balloon are still classified. If they're anomalies or balloons, they should be declassified for us.
@@Lumumba_00AFAIK a lot of RAF bases here in the UK have had encounters, though I have yet to see anything via aircraft. Our military seem to stay quiet about nearly everything. My grandad used to work at what was “Grove airfield” based in south Oxfordshire, apparently he (and 200 other people) witnessed strange lights in the sky back in the 1950’s. I’ve always maintained my grandad is full of shit, but this story is known by quite a few people, yet I can’t find a single record of it anywhere.
what makes you think it should be declassified? militaries and governments dont want you to know lots of things, ignorance is bliss, it could literally be anything
Sadly he fell off lol I liked Tyson once. but you know he most definitely begged his publicist to get him back on the JRE. He was hot for a quick minute. Like two years. Now he's just another alcoholic phisist. ;) He demises joe. Clearly. He thinks he's hot shit and his podcast should be more popular than it is but it fucking sucks.
I appreciate that Neil is worried that some of the details are lost in translation. I can understand that sensors can give weird results at times, but a group of trained pilots all seeing the same thing? The radar as well as other sensors are all saying the same thing by multiple sources. It at least warrants investigation. This is not the only incident there are many incidents and people have been taking pictures just not good ones. The pilot testimony is credible because they are trained observers were as regular people are not taken seriously which is a problem.
It's just funny seeing someone who's actually smart like Neil can easily win an argument with common sense and joe Rogan goes off like a rambling buffoon trying to use the longest words he can remember just to go nowhere and prove nothing cuz he knows he's wrong and doesn't want to look as stupid as he feels lol perfect example of this happening 5.07 after Neil finishes telling him off about aliens living in the ocean hahahahah
I am still on the fence now, because Thunderf00t debunked it all.. it's just people with bad cellphones and filters on their cameras that make things look different than in reality. Legit he proves it well.
I would love to play D&D with Neil. It would either be the best game ever or it would totally suck. I think that he would be able to keep player knowledge and character knowledge separate.
This understanding of data and research and analysis of information should be taught every year in school and then repeated as adult trainings for a person's entire life.
For some reason I feel like this would be like trying teach a horse algebra. I think this a little too 'wrinkly' for some of the minds that would stand to benefit most from this.
You can’t reason with stupid. You try and explain in the most simple terms which might involve using another trail of thought that worked previously with a previous imbecile.
Does Niel Degrasse Tyson know how precise those pieces of military equipment are? Any little "glitch" could make the aircraft just fall from the sky. Those engineers in the military wouldn't just overlook some faulty equipment.
Just commenting here now in 2023 where we have confirmed that we have a program that deals with recovering crashed ufos and ets. I knew this wouldn’t age well for Neil, hopefully he has a change of heart now instead of narcissistically doubling down lmao
Tyson’s rant about proof is like saying “I scooped water out of the ocean, there were no fish in the water I scooped, therefore there are no fish in the seas since there was no proof.”
Well I imagine your making a joke to make fun of him, but that sentence is exaclty the opposite of what he would say... following his way of thinking, he'd say : ...therefore there are no fish in the water I scooped.
I honestly don’t understand in what way this is funny. Is it because Neil is leading the conversation and explaining all the topics? Maybe because he’s the astrophysicist
So about 4/5 years ago, in Wyoming I was with my friends and my dog outside at night walking over to another shop around the corner. One friend inside while another with me helping me carry car parts into the other shop along with my dog. I'm walking along and happen to look up at the night sky. It's generally pretty enjoyable to look at. It was at that same instant that I looked directly above me and saw an Isoscles Trianglar shaped craft above us. To be more descriptive about it. The front was pointed but all I could see was the under side and the back side. Most of it was so dark it created a silhouette against the night sky and the backside of the craft was more diamond like shape. I saw blue flames burning off the back and nothing of lights underneath,but what really caught my attention was it was dead silent as it passed by. I've been in planes around planes and know what they are capable of generally speaking, jets as well. The size, while I couldn't consider this craft to be of 100 feet in length. I would compare it to more modern jets if not somewhat larger to maybe 50 feet. The trajectory. I can still remember it as if I were standing right there when I saw it. This craft was moving very fast. To gauge it would be hard but if you were to look directly up and bring your vision to the skyline as fast as possible with a clear sight for let's say 10 miles then thats about what it felt like. I would guess 400mph+ but that would be really hard to fathom from a ground perspective. It would be like chasing a faint meteor but much closer. It flew in 1 straight direction as far as I could see. Also this craft was really low overhead. It felt like it could have almost knocked off the telephone pole tops as it passed by. I know in actuality that it was higher due to how close we were to town but not alot, just enough to clear low objects. That being said nothing felt disturbed as it passed by that I could recall either, completely silent. It still baffles me to this day what I saw even though it happened so fast. I remember looking at my friend right after amazed and asking him, "Did you see that?" His reply was, " what was that?"
Nice one. Class, that. One thing I notice apart from quoting Aesops fables like he wrote it, is how obtuse these people can be in the face of overwhelming evidence . What are they then Neil? Him & Shostak & Shermer are the posterboys for 'stupidity'. Everyone, over the entire history of ufo phenomenon is wrong. Sensors wrong, highly trained pilots, wrong. Pointless having them really.
Einstein when considering to hire a scientist would first take that scientist out to dinner. He would see if the scientist put salt and pepper on his food before tasting it. If he did, he wouldn't hire him. Tyson would not be hired by Einstein.
Aliens with exotic propulsion technology sure do get busted a lot. If their goal was to watch us without being seen they aren't very good at us. We spy on each other from space but they need to buzz aircraft carriers to get busted over and over? Did they travel light years with exotic technology just for us to find out they are stupid?
@@RJT80 you've got a point. I think, whatever it is, most definitely has the intention of being seen. Perhaps they are just baiting us and testing our capabilities, and how we react to them. I'm for certain that there is a truth out there, extraordinary or not. So far it leans more towards the extraordinary in my opinion.
@@EvasGamingASMR Please, I implore you to check out ''thunderf00t'' on RU-vid, he did real tests and debunked every single so called ''UFO'' video being pushed by Jeremy Corbell and the media. It wasn't difficult for him either, once you see it you'll understand that this whole thing is a farce and should never have been pushed.
The incident with pilot David Fravor referred to here is incorrect. They were told to intercept the object, upon arrival to the area they visually saw a tic tac shape craft hovering above the water and a larger object just beneath the waves. David descended to get a closer look at which time the craft suddenly went up to 12000 feet and then instantly accelerated out of view and off their sensors. The other pilot in a separate plane reported the same object and behavior and she was at a higher altitude. Again, they visually saw this object behave this way by looking outside, not at their sensors inside the cockpit. Whether this was a secret advanced military design from Earth or truly extraterrestrial is up for debate.
Yeah but he failed to take into account that it was two planes and the full sensors from a Navy warship. Seems like a big leap to think all the sensors are off.
A SENSOR read that, yeah no shit. I wonder if the same thing to scientists when they tell you the temperature of something. “No no, that sensor says the outside temperature is 98 degrees. That’s what it’s reading not what you know.” Come the fuck on.
The pentagon report just disproves Neil’s entire point. The report said out of the 144 incidences investigated, 143 involved actual “objects” and not mistaken sensor readings. Read the report.
Love how he explained how much more advanced an alien would be just %5 more evolved then us but can't comprehend them being able to decide what we do and don't see of them. Also the craft was actually visibly witnessed not solely on screen by the pilot the at times defining physics.
Just because you can't understand astrophysics doesn't mean someone is incomprehensible. What you're seeing is the difference between a scientist and a man who has repeatedly been kicked in the head.
@@markmurphy558 yo dude, Neil is not a scientist, he's physicist and educator but not a scientist. He's intelligent human being, no doubt about this, he's great story teller, but also preety arrogant and defensive in conversations.
It’s frightening how idiotically anti-intellectual the general public is becoming. Criticizing science is becoming the norm. We are, as the men of science say: “fucked”.
Licensed psychologist here. I always get flabbergasted by how these "science celebs" are experts in everything. Neil, all of a sudden, became a expert in biology and psychology. I thought he was an astrophycisist...
After my best friend from school started studying physics, he also became an expert of everything via his new religion. was amazing, I studied communication and media and he would explain how all that worked to my little peanut brain..never seen him have those kinds of traits before 😂 NDG Tyson, although I think his points here are quite reasonable could never, or better his 'scientist' ego could never accept anything that doesn't jive with the current gospel. so no surprise he blocks anything that goes against it
I've never heard such a close minded person in a field that involves keeping an open mind lol There's some "scientists" that just keep so close to their beliefs it's almost the same as a close-minded religious person.
Indeed. He's shown himself to be quite blind to very compelling evidence, en masse, over the decades - but especially now. His dismissal of logic and scientific principle on this is blatantly obtuse and astoundingly 'religious.' Extremely disappointing.
Neil was making a point while Joe was repeating anecdotal evidence we've all heard. Joe was presenting these flawed yet popular ideas to Neil so that Neil could talk about them the way he was. And there's a reason why when Neil starts talking, Joe shuts up
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I been roasting his unoriginal pompous ass for 20 years. I love deep thinkers and scientists. He is neither. This guy should not be speaking in public. He wastes time and space that could be used on someone who has a clue.
He's an intellectual yet idiot (IYI). "The IYI pathologies others for doing things he doesn't understand without every realizing it is his understanding that may be limited." Nothing to do with UFOs either. It's about his inability to listen to anyone, while thinking he's blowing everyone's mind with every word he says. It's a worn out act. He's probably a nice neighbor though.
Yep. Shit, I used to be interested in hearing this guy. Now I'm ashamed I ever felt that way. He has zero conversational etiquette. He actually comes across now similar to someone who doesn't have any answers, so instead of answering, he just manipulates and bullies the convo to steer it into a disguising direction in which you can't call him out because you can't get a word in while he pacifies hosts and audiences with the regurgitation of his own previous statements and thoughts from years back, as well as quoting others.
Spielberg made a point more than 30 years ago about his ever-decreasing faith in the UFO phenomenon based on the point that everyone has a camera and yet these purported extraterrestrial UFO videos have never ever increased in quality beyond blurry, insufficient artifacts on a screen. It's 2023 and even with 1080p video cameras and livestreaming on so many people's mobile phones, it still has never changed since the photographs or videos from 80 years ago. The logical reason is the only reason we think something is an alien craft is only because it's so blurry, far away, and unable to discern what it is, and when we do discern it, it's often the most mundane explanation.
