Well... Gyo does not allow you to see through pure Zetsu, but through In, a particular application of Zetsu that conceals Nen-Created substances and conjurations. So its probably the first one. Unless you imply Liam is a Nen Beast?
Nen is so complex, so vast, so vague. You have infinite development potential with Nen as the base of your story. I’d love to learn more lore of the HxHverse
Nen like Liam said is aura practice like a martial art. The thing is through the series different aura practices are confused with nen. Essentially aura practice is used throughout anime. Curse energy, Ki and Chakra all use the difference concepts of aura.
Nen in Heavens Arena: it's like any shounen power ever, use your spirit energy to perform superhuman feats Nen in Dark Continent: I can look 10 seconds in the future, but only if these 2468874 conditions are met on 11:13 am on a Friday while both of my magical beasts are summoned.
If I can help clarify the applications centralize around a word. Using real words. For example Zetsu means to hide or withdraw. Ren means release or produce Hatsu means to act. Gyo is to focus. Ten means to cover and En is to surround. These are loose interpation. So Gyo focus aura into hand. Zetsu Withdraw it until it is condense. Release the condense energy I believe leads to Ko. Just think what could one do with energy. Hope this helps even a little
@@MADpsionics Thanks for trying to explain. I'm sure it would be less confusing for a Japanese speaker since like you said all of the names describe what you're doing but without that knowledge it can be kind of confusing.
@@lucystarlight8887 Yeah I recommend hunter x hunter to people and many didn't like the power systems they had. So I got into explaining power systems in anime or at least my interpations so it can be more enjoyable.
@@MADpsionics I talked about Nen with published Authors and also Writing-Advice-RU-vidrs. They agree with me that all Writers that wanna use any Magic-System should study Nen.
@@spiritual9574 I talked about Nen with published Authors and also Writing-Advice-RU-vidrs. They agree with me that all Writers that wanna use any Magic-System should study Nen.
Manipulation of life energy can be done without practicing formal nen, so whether by accident or a as a natural ability (like with magical beasts) a nen like ability can be achieved despite training.
Those people are called “geniuses” But being a genius doesn’t correlate with raw power or potential Like Komugi is more talented than many veteran hunters but her talent and potential is only for Gunji, nothing else
I mean wasn't it stated in heavens arena how Gon was particularly good at zetsu due to being acostumed to hide his presence from animals and the whole ordeal with stealing Hizoka's button?
@@Carlos-ne3zf Wild animals can even naturally use Zetsu So a human with high potential and talent in Aura and that has grown up surrounded by nature and animals, its not weird Gon did Zetsu naturally when his life depended on it, just like wild animals use it to hide from their predator or stalk their prey
@@aceclover758 exactly, I think something that makes Nen feel more real is preciselly that some of its techniques can be learned naturally by the characters surroundings and upbringing despite not having formal training
i’m a proud hxh fan to say everything in this video about nen was what i thought, but it was still worth watching to see liams face for the first time lol made my night
Face reveal!!!!! That’s a nice face. So, I feel like I understood the explanation of Nen completely because they did it so well but let’s see what you got.
His wife literally calls herself GrandLineWaify in her series about watching HxH for the first time lmao But I guess sometimes we're just oblivious to something when it's right there in front of our noses 😂
Could be but the thing we still haven't seen Nen's full potential yet. Considering how much Togashi has already added to it in the SW arc, he still have more ideas.
us: so, how exactly does nen work? like a simple few sentences. togashi: well- and- and then- so, thats why- yeah. us: ...hah? how does that make sense? togashi: yeah. us: thats not an answer togashi: yeah.
Well I've studied hunter x hunter during my time in high school. As such I think I can answer some confusing questions. Though this is solely a theory. Nen is the application of aura. Aura is one life force created from mental physical and spiritual energies. Know mental energy determines the fluid application of aura. How easy is it for one to manipulate. The greater your knowledge and wisdom the more efficient and malleable your aura. Physical deals with the capacity and generation of your aura. Greater ones physique the more aura their body can hold. The healthier one is the easier it is to generate aura. Spiritual energy comes from experiences. How one interprets experiences sets the charge of your aura. It is also aids in refinement. I believe clear aura is neutral charge. Once one gains a color it is similar to chakra. I mean the real world application of chakra colors. Red is physical, yellow is emotional, orange is energy, green is health, light blue is expression, dark blue is clarity and purple is actualization. The hue depends on your potential out look. Ok that's just aura I promise from here it will get easier to understand. So the greatest misconception of NEN is that as you said it is an art form. All martial arts use the body in different ways. However how it is used is what makes that martial art special. The Hunter Association lead by Netero uses his principal of aura practice. Namely this is to control the development and knowledge of aura practice. If everyone realized that anyone could be as strong as Netero the world would be chaotic. Throughout the story we are seeing different applications of aura practice. Yet it is all believed to be NEN. Which isn't the case. Using complex formulas or personal hatsu isn't NEN. Rather it is one Interpretation of aura practice. That's like saying anyone who can punch is a boxer. Boxing itself is an art form centralized around punching. As for the affinity it is the Hunter Association way of categorize the plethora of abilities. Their purposely shoving NEN into society to limit the amount of abilities that can awaken. Cause chimera ants use their aura in more biological or personal sense. This is why Parisian the golden rat had taken them. Now for Bisky her transformation isnt that hard to understand. She transmutes her bodies cells. By using Zetsu she is essentially reverting her cells to her youth. But this is solely Temporary. As long as she doesn't generate too much aura her cells will remain youthful. Killua claws is the result of aura inheritance. I'm guessing a member of Zoldyck was a powerful enhancer capable of body transmutation. So perhaps Killua could have some lycanthrope genetics. How awesome if he became a electric werewolf but that's my thing. As for echo rhythm it is simple aura practice. By releasing your aura delayed when you walk. Those not aware of aura brains wouldn't process it. It is like the doppel effect. When you move a pencil real fast it looks like it bend. That's because our brains interpret that motion as fluid like. Leave comments cause it aids in me honing my theories.
Not sure about the werewolf thing since he's often shown with feline qualities. I think Werecat is probably closer but I don't like the idea of Killua being a furry.
can understand the kingdom hearts games at least basically enough to recommend to newcomers what games to play or skip or tell them what happens in a nutshell(honestly most of the handhelds and even then would say nen is more fun to look up and easier to get into as that series really needs to dial it down.)but yeah definitely had that with blazblue(just gave up on it's story with how much the characters got kicked around which was my biggest problem with kh's narrative even basically.) & fate(is it wrong outside some series i got more into spinoff's like carnival phantasm & the shirou cooking shorts more than the main series at times?).
Since I am just rewatchinig HxH. I am pretty sure, that Chrollo does explain his conditions in the anime, but you're definitely right about the anime not explaining Nen in a proper pace.
I've rewatched HxH(2011) over 5 times, seen countless reactions, Chrollo nor the narrator explains the conditions of Chrollo's main Hatsu ability... at least not in the (2011) version.
No I like JUST finished the yorknew arc I swear he explains it. He has to ask them a question about their ability and they have to answer it, they have to put their hand on the book, and he has to see their ability in action and this has to happen all within an hour. I might be wrong about the hand on the book its been a couple days but I've never read the manga and I know they explain it
@@caleb_widogast_fan Their names are more distinct That and I remember that gyo is aura vision, zetsu is the off switch, hatsu is the superpower, and ko is all of the above (though it took me awhile to remember what gyo and ko are)
Many dont understand Nen. I mean, many dont even noticed that Double-Conjuring and therefore also doing the same with some other Types is totally possible. 'Adding Steps to make it more difficult to you, so your Nen gets Stronger' is so fundamental throughout the Art of Nen, it’s clear it’s possible to conjure a Dog that conjures Gold and poops it out.
That would be too weak or cannot manifest at all because how inefficient his nen on both categories, considering how his transmutation and emitter ability are far too weak on output than his enhancement.. one thing to remember even if he born as enhancer his nen affinity isn't on 100% right away, he need to train hard to reach that 100% that also applied on other type of hatsu, his hatsu for manipulation and conjuring are probably close to 0% during CA
Protagonist chrollo is a dream. He uses the powers of his allies with permission. Can't kill his target. And really he is not evil. Just broke. And ambitious.
And for all we know the genocide was a necessity. He could have an itachi-esque back story. We already know he protects and cares about his allies and hometown. I've seen anime with mc destroying races to protect one person. Evil is subjective and a necessity in the real world. I think it makes his character better.
Hxh tries really hard NOT to justify chrollos actions, because they are unjustifiable. Do not try to justify genocide lmao It sucked in Naruto and it would suck here
I've never watched the anime and I personally do love the info dumps made by Togashi but i understand why the directors of the anime decided to gloss over some of the explanations They had to balance between clearness of the concept of nen and the flow of the episodes
Nen is pretty instinctive to understand if you think like a game, things like A.P.R. are easy to understand if you see Nen like an rpg mana bar. But even with that, there's a lot of details on Nen, it's easy to miss some small thing.
When nen was being explained I rewatched all the scenes like 3-5 times to really nail it into my head. I just did a little rewind and kept replaying until I understood. So I guess I never had this issue as an anime watcher.
I would love to have a big Discussion in some Discord about what the Ability of the arguably most complex Character in History-of-Fiction would be: The Doctor, from Doctor Who. He's gentle and cruel. His ability must be smart and big-brain-move, but also fascinatingly simple. What would it be? I think one could have a massive Discussion about this.
His hatsu is broadcasting memories to another parallel versions of him. And here's the kicker, some of his parallel versions also have the same ability. Turning him from 4th dimensional maestro into 5th dimensional juggernaut.
@@chaospudding Wow, dude. Thanks for trying to stop the discussion mid-track by proposing the most blant Idea: His ability would be what his ability already is, hohoho.
7:19 the way i would explain it is that it’s preferred to focus on the category that a character falls into since it makes the ability stronger and if a character were to change it to something they prefer it wouldn’t be as strong and be harder to learn but still can
I’ve only seen the 2011 anime nothing else. I just watched it for the first time over the last 2 months. This video made me quite happy as I actually followed along closely with all the explanations in the show! So I guess that means I’m one of the few that already understood Nen
It's about everything. Razor and Morel make good use of everything too. Netero needs a lot of aura to create the statue and it is emission because it appears behind him or his opponents. People overstate how much Conjuration it involves forgetting it only exists for microseconds inbetween strikes. A conjured statue would stay out and probably fight independently from Netero like Kastro's double.
In case anyone didn't know, the answer was B because manipulation techniques are on a 1st come 1st serve basis with no means of countering one that's already being manipulated
Since I watched both HxH and JoJo it's easy to understand Nen, since Nen was inspired by Stand, an ability that manifest from user's soul, mental, personality, goal and strength.
Yeah... no, the amount of details, rules, categories and sup categories blow every other power system out of the water including Stands and Alchemy, I love both of them but they are way more simplistic which Nen is far from, stop the cap. The idea of summoning an entity to fight for you has been around since forever Jojo fans need to chill.
@@Comicbroe405 yeah sorry about that, but man some fans are just relentless, I see Jojo fans everywhere saying the same shit whilst everyone nods and it makes no sense they're as similar as any other shonen magic systems, acting like the Stands power system is some kind of paragon of originality, it's just summoning monsters with special powers, they're just shonen style OP Pokimon 😂.
Nen of the Flame was never an explanation of the Nen we know of. It was a guide used to improve usage of the Four Basic Principles, and something to throw Gon and Killua off the concept of aura.
It was cool to get to see the face behind the voice. I enjoyed that. Also I've always loved your voice but don't think I realized how much until I saw you speaking. Thx
The most difficult to understand thing about Nen is why it's a secret to most people. It shouldn't be that hard to notice that all of the world's most powerful people have superpowers. Also, unlike many power systems, Nen is available to EVERYONE. In the Manga Leorio actually discovers Nen accidentally without it being taught. So, it shouldn't be a secret.
Yeah I've always taken issue with the fact that nobody in Heaven's Arena bats an eye while they watch everything happen, and it's recorded for future viewing. Conspiracists would be losing their minds.
bisky's ability could easily be done through conjuration you conjure an extradimentional space for your real body to reside in and conjure a new nody that you control through manipulation to use, you dont need specialist the problem is that bisky is the furthest from a conjurer lol and AI's ability is not nen, she is a dark continent being with magical powers
to be fair the "mystery points" are very true to life with martial arts in general. its very difficult to gauge your opponents strength vs your own before actually fighting, and even when your opponent is clearly more physically fit than you a certain amount of technique can still give you the win, but trying to quantify exactly how much technique you will need to regain the advantage is something that you can only hope to ballpark estimate. even in a simple exchange of deflecting and opponents punch, too little force behind your block wont be effective, but too much force and you're just wasting energy and possibly throwing off your own balance and flow. you cant exactly do an instant mental calculation of exactly how many newtons of force to apply so you can only estimate and hope you're right, and those estimations can only become more accurate with hands on experience. also there are many styles of martial arts, some better than others, and some with weaknesses that can be hard countered by others, such as classical boxers having weak legs. nowadays mixed martial arts makes up for many of the weaknesses found in someone practicing only one art, much like having a more well rounded nen ability often out performs a hyper specialized one in direct combat. basically martial arts in general is an incredibly vague science and trying to fully understand it would require in depth knowledge of anatomy, physics, psychology, and why knows what else. its much easier to boil it down to more understandable but perhaps less precise terms
Another good example of the anime making things harder to understand would be Knuckles APR Bankruptcy. Mostly because the only time it goes to completion is off screen!
10:39 you can use arrow keys to go back or forwards 5 seconds at a time or use “j” to go back 10 seconds, or “l” to go forward 10. It’s not hard, and you can always pause and read the subtitles
Given Togashi's penchant for plot changes in HxH, I'm grateful I understood nen enough to appreciate the story. I actually think it's one of the better "hard" magic systems I've seen lately.
This must be why some people hate watching things with me. lol I put the subtitles on and then I always rewind if I miss some detail or get confused 😂 I also tend to narrate to myself certain things I think will happen in a curious tone and other times blurt out what seems like an obvious or predictable outcome to an ongoing event (except for when watching with my kids) 😅 I can’t help it, seems to make the viewing much more entertaining for me
Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but according to Hunterpedia, Netero uses emission to separate his aura from his body into the shape of his Bodhisattva, rather than conjuration. Emission is adjacent to his natural affinity, as opposed to conjuration, which is as far away as possible (excluding specialization). I think conjuration is used more so for complex objects or sentient beings, like Shizuku's Blinky or Kite's Crazy Slots.
Another thing the show got wrong. During heavens arena, we were told that Gyo was the ability to focus one's aura around the eyes. But from greed island onwards, it became the ability to focus aura around any part of the body. Except they never actually stated this difference. It doesn't help that Ryu is basically a very similar but more complex application of Gyo. It got me confused for years.
What are you talking about? I have a great understanding of Nen due to the fact that I have been subscribed to the NewWorldReview for a few years,thus receiving regular injections of Hunter X Hunter content straight into my RU-vid feed.
Bescuit power was explained in the manga. She said that she hated her original buffed form. And stated that she kept praying and worshipping God to give her a form less masculine. Going to that way she explained that aura was part of her soul and that because she put her soul into praying for years, her soul aka aura manifested to grant her what she desires. Same goes to post Mortem nen.
isn’t not fully knowing something what’s so great about it in a story… everyone gets their own idea and can share it with others.. you may not even have thought of what someone else does. that’s why i love hunter hunter so much it can give us insane amount of information and it still can be seen from so many angles. love your videos and will continue to for as long as you make them!!
Jesus Christ that yell had me panic thinking someone got hurt, thanks champ. Anyone whose using headphones, Bluetooth hearing aid or partially deaf be prepared for a scream late in the video. It’s not anyone being stabbed, falling and breaking something or calling for help.
in regards to the bisky transformation theories, i thought the 2011 anime tried to clarify this with gons transformation either during the chimera ant arc or afterwards with the succession arc. that the transformation gon went under was a result of his nen contract, sacrificing all his potential and future life to achieve his perfect state momentarily so he could defeat pitou. to clarify, i believe the anime was implying that gon was capable of achieving his nen contract state by normal means eventually, and that bisky was proof of this by already achieving her perfect state. like most women, she doesnt like being asked about her age; and she cares a great deal about her appearance. but bisky is apparently 57, and is clearly a master as she knows the stepping-stone training levels for each category of nen-use. she had plenty of time to master her affinity, transmutation, and shes probably maxxed her neighboring affinities as far as they will go as well.
One really good reason why we won't ever fully understand nen is that even in HxH the people don't fully understand nen, there's quite a lot that they have figured out but there is still a bunch of mystery and a lot of people have their own personal theories about different aspects of nen.
I've always wondered if enhacement can weaken body parts instead of reinforce them, this maybe could explain biscuit body change as a form of "negative enhacement" since it looks like she loses her body development (or something like that idk)
I don’t know if the first part is correct, but biscuit’s buff body is her real body. She actually uses nen to suppress herself to look young and feminine.
@@seraphywang4638 that's exactly my point , my guess is that she can "weaken" herself by getting from buff body to child body and maybe that is a form of negative enhancement
@@lorenzoditerlizzi1643 Maybe enhancement is simply called it but you can both strengthen parts or weaken it. Maybe even down to the molecular level of testosterone and cells of aging or something
Enhancement is said to also be able to enhance objects. I wonder if that's a translationism, and where it intersects with manipulation if not. Or maybe it just refers to healing people, or buffing them. Why would everybody not know how to heal? Even for specialists, 40% efficient healing is infinitely better than 0% efficient healing.
Gyo should be the one on the basic principles. Think about it: Ten=Harden , Ren=Release , Zetsu=Suppress , Gyo=Focus. See? It Fits! I feel like Hatsu was only lumped with the basic principles because it rhymes with Zetsu. It should be like the endgame of the artform. Like, to graduate from the Shingenryu school, you must be able to form your hatsu.
But you can also form a hatsu without training, like Leorio iirc. Mereum had incredibly powerful and instinctive aura control, but never had a hatsu. Perfection in simplicity I guess. I always thought the basics should be extrapolated on again. That was the only part of greed island I loved imo, just really logical and cool use of the standard ki power system. Why wouldnt focusing it be a fundamental skill in nen combat? Maybe by using zetsu, then ren to build up pressure with your aura inside your body, you could then break the seal on your fist or somewhere else to release an attack that would have far more energy than you could put out at one time. Sorta like Gon's jajan ken, only invisible until the last second.
Nen seems like a system in a sandbox classless video game with standard rpg elements. Meaning where you spend your stats effects your playstyle and the abilities you can use and be proficient with. Str users = enhancement, dex = emitter, int = conjurer, manipulator, transmuter, and specialist(specialist may be in the category of "other" that doesn't really adhere to any specific stat). 🤔 And some "classes" mix multiple types. Ten = defenses Zetsu = no defense/stealth Ren = offense and Defense buffs Hatsu = skills/abilities/spells
To make it more confusing, a large part of what Liam said in this video is just Shingen-ryu's interpretation of nen. Different people in the HxH world might have different ways to understand and learn nen (people in Kakin, for example). Btw, the explanation on the white board at 4:52 is the wrong one.
I’m trying to adapt this to a TTRPG. Wing expresses that about 80% of their aura needs to be in their eyes to see aura (or hidden nen abilities) but I have to imagine that someone with a lot more aura would need a lower percentage. There also seems to be a way to gather ambient aura that likely won’t see though hidden aura… I love this magic system but holy shit is it impossible to implement.
Try cross breeding it with the cursed energy system from Jujutsu kaisen. Then you can take the best of both and maybe simplify the more ….complex parts of nen or cursed energy. Or both.
I like that Bisky's abilities don't line up with our current understanding of Nen because she's my favourite character and the idea that she (hopefully) won't catch the dead unless those discrepancies are explained gives me the gladness.
My thoughts on Bisky are that her transformation is transmuted. Transmutation does allow the manipulation of forms, properties, etc. So it could be. My other thought is just that Nen is weird and sometimes people achieve specialization from their strong desires despite their affinity. Tbh I think the chart should be a pentagon or a star with Specialist in the center instead of the hexagon.
Yes. I can´t remember all of it right now, but part of the theory is for example that Chrollo gave their hatsus back during the fight. A hint for that is that Chrollo is shown talking into the phone, instead of playing a game (as we have seen in York New). The reason why I personally think it could be true, is Hisokas behavior. Based on what we know about him, I think he wouldn´t hold a grudge against someone that won against him fair and square.
Thank you for explaining this series a lot of my friends tried to get me on it but I didn't like it cus I don't understand Now I'ma give it a chance and seriously watch it
As someone who doesn't learn easily, I'm kinda proud of myself for catching onto Nen so quickly, aside from the aura level equations. It's just so intuitive and interesting, pulling apart how each characters hatsu works is crazy fun, especially since a lot of abilities in other series boil down to "they can do it because they can." The only thing that in my opinion doesn't make sense is Specialization. For the most part, most specialist abilities we've seen so far can be explained with other Nen types more or less. For example, Chrollo conjures a book that uses some advanced level of manipulation and a ton of sacrifices to be able to steal hatsu. Being able to modify other people's aura and Nen isn't a foreign concept, I mean look at Knuckles APR or basically any Nen curse. Pitou's doctor Blythe could easily be some mix of Conjuration, Manipulation, and Enhancement, since multiple Nen users have been able to heal injuries with similar effectiveness. I've come up with the personal theory that the Nen ring is actually wrong, and there's something more going on than just a 6th Nen type. Perhaps a more correct version would be an expanded ring, or even a tree of Nen categorizations, not as simple as specialization. It just don't make sense that specialization can make things that could theoretically be done with existing Nen types, but also create hatsu in unknowing specialists like Tserreidnichs second Nen beast and time magic, or neons ghost writing. You truly can't fully understand Nen, since we simply don't have everything there is to know yet. If the series ever is to continue, there's so much out there to learn still.
It's easy for me to think of hatsu as what a magical system would call a "spell." Also, I immediately tune out the moment I here "formula" because I hate math and avoid it whenever I can lol
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It’s not explicitly stated for Chrollo, but we learn 3 or 4 of the conditions needed for him to steal abilities. Namely when he steals the fortune telling nen creature from the mafia boss daughter
They explain some powers in the hunterpedia when Yorknew was ending and throughout greed island but people rarely watch those and You don't get the information when you need it
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That equation could probably be a basis for a nen based rpg game. Tho it would be absolute torture trying to figure out how to let people make their own abilities.
