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Developed in the mid 1990s by South African designer Tony Neophytou, the Neostead 2000 is a pump action shotgun with a substantial cult following. It was the first truly high-capacity shotgun put into production, with two magazine tubes over a single barrel (a concept which was independently implemented by KelTec in their later KSG shotgun). This configuration gave it a capacity of 12+1, and a selector switch allowed the shooter to control whether only one tube was fed from or if both would be used alternating back and forth. Thus the tubes could be loaded with different types of ammunition to have readily available at the flip of a switch. It was produced only in 12ga, with a 3" chamber.
The Neostead has a bullpup type layout, with the action and ejection port behind the grip and trigger. This allows a full-length barrel in a short overall package, and it is for this reason that the pump mechanism is designed to cycle opposite of traditional shotguns (forward to open and back to close). By having the shooter pulling their hand rearwards to close the action, the potential danger of the hand slipping in front of the muzzle while firing (something that has happened on the KSG) can be avoided.
Production of the Neostead did not happen until the early 2000s, and only 200 of the guns were made. The problem was ultimately the excessive complexity of the design. Short-stroking the pump could result in two shells both trying to feed onto the lifter, which would require field stripping the gun to resolve. The internal complexity also made the gun quite expensive - too expensive to be commercially successful. Most of the guns remain in South Africa today, where they are sought after as collectible items.
Many thanks to the anonymous collector who provided the production gun for disassembly, and to Mr. Neophytou for providing his prototype for firing!
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@ottovonbearsmark8876
@ottovonbearsmark8876 6 лет назад
South African guns always look space age man. They’re so sweet
@noecarrier5035
@noecarrier5035 6 лет назад
Hahaha, Otto VonBearsmark. That's a hilarious name. 10/10 would unite the kleinstaterai with
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 6 лет назад
IKR? I love their designs.
@moosemaimer
@moosemaimer 6 лет назад
It's like they ran out of every color plastic but black at the Nerf factory. You could almost imagine the workers running around making laser noises with them.
@Piromanofeliz
@Piromanofeliz 6 лет назад
Thy look like OP videogame weapons
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 6 лет назад
moosemaimer pew pew pew 👉
@EsplodingBomb
@EsplodingBomb 6 лет назад
I'd love to see the ejection button be pressed while this was fully loaded!
@AlexKennett
@AlexKennett 5 лет назад
EsplodingBomb I guess it would blow it load all over the place, just shells everywhere
@jackbotman
@jackbotman 5 лет назад
Like spraying a deck of card into the air
@SteveReynold
@SteveReynold 5 лет назад
There’s a retainer....,
@CFootprints
@CFootprints 4 года назад
Shell facial.
@Edeinawc
@Edeinawc 4 года назад
@Simo Please use the term "blow it's load" as often as possible in whenever context conceivable.
@WafflePlaneRC
@WafflePlaneRC 6 лет назад
"I have been told that I have to finish off the box of ammo that I started on" sounds like a good problem to have, mate.
@martinpotgieter4862
@martinpotgieter4862 6 лет назад
It is such a South African thing to say :D
@calamusgladiofortior2814
@calamusgladiofortior2814 6 лет назад
There are gunless children in Europe who don't have any ammo to shoot. You're going to sit at that range until you're done all your shells, young man.
@gunnergunter9425
@gunnergunter9425 6 лет назад
Was thinking the same thing when he said that!
@WKZworks
@WKZworks 6 лет назад
"No beer till you finish your tequila!"
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 5 лет назад
Yeah, such a terrible problem to have. And it's pretty much self-solving!
@spot1401
@spot1401 4 года назад
One "April fool's Day" in the future, a very nasty person will take one of those futuristic looking outer casings, fill it up with ball bearings, exotic small parts an a lot of strong springs, hand it to Ian and say "you can open it up but I must warn you, the inner workings are VERY complex"
@Kerithanos
@Kerithanos 3 года назад
Ian: "What the hell you need ball bearings for?" Said nasty person (played by Chevy Chase): "It's all ball bearings nowadays!"
@LordMarchewka
@LordMarchewka 6 лет назад
This thing is so ridiculously complicated and so smartly designed at the same time. I'm in love.
@joshuasmit5137
@joshuasmit5137 6 лет назад
As a South African I'm becoming more and more pleased as I realize just how many SA guns are featured in various games
@ax4178
@ax4178 3 года назад
Plot twist... It was a cypriot guy that designed these guns.... teehee awkward
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 3 года назад
@@ax4178 Except he is South African 🇿🇦......teeeheeee awkward.
@taylorbell3213
@taylorbell3213 3 года назад
@@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 thats why he said plot twist homie
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954
@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 3 года назад
@@taylorbell3213 Are you dumb? He said plot twist, implying that the original commenter is incorrect.
@taylorbell3213
@taylorbell3213 3 года назад
@@areyoustillridingthegoat2954 yes i am dumb
@hjp14
@hjp14 6 лет назад
You've heard of the HK Slap; now, prepare yourselves for the Neostead Chop!
@MrHalonoob117
@MrHalonoob117 6 лет назад
hjp14 I laughed way to hard at that, thank you
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 4 года назад
Good gun pun
@JamesthePizzaMan
@JamesthePizzaMan 4 года назад
Valhalan guardsman That gun pun was a tun of fun!
@floo1465
@floo1465 4 года назад
James Worden Thun gun pun wun aun tun ofun fun!
@leewenstien1819
@leewenstien1819 4 года назад
Would this be qualified for the use of Gun Fu
@MartinWastlund
@MartinWastlund 4 года назад
This looks like a specialist's dream; loading the tubes with two types of ammo, for different targets, and jumping out of vehicles/into tight spaces. Also looks well suited for home defense.
@australiananarchist480
@australiananarchist480 3 года назад
yeah when he mentioned you can pick which tube to use, that was my first thought. Possibly useful for hunting too? Say, buckshot in one tube and birdshot in the other, then you can essentially hunt both at the same time. Also a military/police application i just thought of! Beanbag rounds in one, lethal rounds in the other. In a hostage situation, you can quickly switch between the lethal rounds for definite threats, and beanbags for potential threats. Or in a riot, (topical ik) fire beanbags, and then if an armed criminal pops up, go for the lethals. The possibilities with this are endless!
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 3 года назад
It is really cool. Unfortunately, magazine-fed shotguns make it pretty much obsolete.
@duytran9086
@duytran9086 3 года назад
@@australiananarchist480 Exactly what I played in an FPS game called A.V.A LOL. In the game, the standard shooting mode is buck shot, then you can right click to switch to slug shot.
@mondaysinsanity8193
@mondaysinsanity8193 3 года назад
@@Brawler_1337 they definitely don't mag fed shotguns are great...until you need to actually use them in the field those mags are fucking huge and insanely heavy. You can at most carry a 25 rd drum and 1-2 10 rd mags but those will add so much weight and clumsiness the drum you'll have to abandon as you can't keep it anywheres but in the gun and carry it and the 10 rd mags will cover basically all the real estate on your vest. Tubes are faster to reload than mags, can easily be topped off, and you can carry 100 rds of shotshells on your kit, belt, in bandoliers,loose in pouches etc. However you want really far less clumsy and far far lighter the mags alone empty for shotguns are a few pounds which is a fuck load
@mondaysinsanity8193
@mondaysinsanity8193 3 года назад
@@Brawler_1337 not to mention mag fed almost completely removes one of the main advantages of shotguns and that's being able to switch out round types pretty rapidly
@Meph648
@Meph648 6 лет назад
The most impressive thing in this whole video is the intact plastic. I have confirmed that there are at least 6 of these shotguns in my country, and all of them have plastic furniture that has cracked and broken simply by virtue of being cheap plastic. I burn-tested small shavings of the Neostead 2000 plastic, and it's really cheap ABS recycled sewer pipe when these should be made from 30% glass fiber fill nylon at the very least.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 лет назад
Well, the production gun I disassembled is unfired. The one we were shooting has a stock made of much sturdier material.
@Meph648
@Meph648 6 лет назад
Right, sorry. For the examples floating around in the wild, I have to say it's a real shame about the plastic. I have 3D scanned the fore-ends and I'm trying to see if I can have examples machined from aluminum. If you'd like to be kept in the loop for this project, you you can send me an email at unlimitedshootingworks@gmail.com Thank you, I really enjoy all your content.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 6 лет назад
Great info - crying damn shame about such a seemingly well engineered firearm(as complicated as it is, if there were mechanical problems, you'd think they'd be evident with the first cycling) receiving such absolutely disgustingly shoddy plastics. There's a number of alternatives that they could've used that would hold up better, especially with fiberglass reinforcing.
@SmilingDevil
@SmilingDevil 5 лет назад
There could be an aftermarket demand then....
@alekxu
@alekxu 5 лет назад
You know, recycled material for the environment. Winner gets to live longer..
@dotcomgamingd5564
@dotcomgamingd5564 3 года назад
ahhh, the quake 2 super shotgun. one of my favorite designs.
@bofadeez
@bofadeez 3 года назад
thats what I was thinking
@eternalv0id_
@eternalv0id_ 2 года назад
one of the best designs indeed
@HQ_Default
@HQ_Default 6 месяцев назад
Yeah that's what my mind immediately went to. Two "barrels", pump action, it even has the weird padded carry handle. All it needs is a grey & green paint job and it'll be perfect.
@wulfman15
@wulfman15 6 лет назад
Yes it's complicated, but it's absolutely brilliant. This was fun to watch get taken apart.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 6 лет назад
Lest we forget, conventional pumps are cludgy nightmares too. There's a reason why the shorter disassembly videos for 870s and M500s are ~8 minutes and most are closer to 20. A lot of fiddly parts that can be installed incorrectly.
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva 5 лет назад
@@GunFunZS yeah it's shocking that such a simple gun to use is so difficult to take apart, while some of the guns that seem like they would be more complex (ARs, etc) disassemble easily. I guess the old Steve jobs saying "it's harder to make something simple" is true
@tumate45
@tumate45 4 года назад
I never tought that the Quake 2 super shotgun could possibly be inspired by this weapon.
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 6 лет назад
I remember asking a question about 2 years ago "what do you plan to do when you run out of different gun models to showcase." You responded: "I plan on retiring, but I'll probably be long dead before that happens."
@vusstoppyv4612
@vusstoppyv4612 6 лет назад
Stanley Scalf that's a funny question. Ian will uh can't run out of firearms biographies cause there are thousands upon thousands of various firearms in this world.
@prowokator
@prowokator 6 лет назад
gun jeebus neva diez! just goes back to himself (21:66 letters from youtubes)
@marvininabox
@marvininabox 4 года назад
He'll just go back and start shooting Every Single One
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 4 года назад
He'll start doing auction videos.
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord 4 года назад
As he goes he builds his reputation which expands his access. Just seems unlikely, now he barely has time to keep up with everything.
@mosipd
@mosipd 6 лет назад
If the Remington 870 is the Honda Accord of shotguns, the Neostead is the Cadillac 8-6-4.
@Rags
@Rags 6 лет назад
Fond, fond memories of using this gun with slugs in Bad Company 2. Those were the days!
@DeosPraetorian
@DeosPraetorian 6 лет назад
Sniped a few pilots with it
@hakjobtm7472
@hakjobtm7472 6 лет назад
The slugs, man...
@thefizz9521
@thefizz9521 6 лет назад
The days where slugs were actually like irl slugs
@iTzGerimaxx
@iTzGerimaxx 6 лет назад
Arica Harbour
@Bobbydyland
@Bobbydyland 6 лет назад
Yeah. Shotgun slug sniping was brilliant fun.
@AnthonyHandcock
@AnthonyHandcock 4 года назад
My favourite sort of engineering. The sort you admire whilst thinking "but why did they bother?"
@VonFatCat
@VonFatCat 6 лет назад
Germany over engineers everything South Africa: oi you kak hold me beer
@ItsRawdraft2
@ItsRawdraft2 5 лет назад
Difference is, the South African things work properly
@bunnieskitties293
@bunnieskitties293 4 года назад
@@ItsRawdraft2 MAG-7 wants to have a word with you.
@blaisechalmers1464
@blaisechalmers1464 4 года назад
@@ItsRawdraft2 are you on drugs?
@gidi3250
@gidi3250 4 года назад
Well a lot of boers are of German descent the other 2 large groups are Dutch and British
@EasterTurkey
@EasterTurkey 4 года назад
@@kg4boj "Don't judge me because I'm claiming everything I say is a fact and that protects me from all harm!" You're a genuinely deluded individual with an inflated belief in your own intelligence. Under your logic, you may not criticize this statement because it is factual.
@Idelacio
@Idelacio 6 лет назад
I remember this gun being in Fallout: Tactics as a full auto shotty. A videogame has LIED to me!
@stevejohnson6593
@stevejohnson6593 Год назад
I'm kinda certain they used the Pancor Jackhammer, at least they did in 1 and 2, I think
@jaodasilva7993
@jaodasilva7993 Год назад
@@stevejohnson6593 and Tactics too
@K-Anon-30
@K-Anon-30 6 лет назад
Ian Karate chops the gun at 1:10
@krpajda
@krpajda 6 лет назад
KIP also at 18:00
@StAlchemyst
@StAlchemyst 6 лет назад
We need a remix with plenty of "HAI-YA!" sound effects.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 6 лет назад
From the makers of the HK slap now bring you the Neo-chop!
@studyinsteel5186
@studyinsteel5186 6 лет назад
He uses Karate chops for the opposite reason he uses a pen.
@saintofall8527
@saintofall8527 5 лет назад
Everybody: The keltec ksg is the first dual tube bullpup shotgun. Forgotten weapons: I'm about to end this mans whole career.
@samsonn25
@samsonn25 4 года назад
he said that
@saintofall8527
@saintofall8527 3 года назад
@Joe Blow its what we like to call, in the business, a joke
@stevethomas5980
@stevethomas5980 3 года назад
@@saintofall8527 BASED AND GUN JESUS PILLED
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 6 лет назад
its like the designer decided to reinvent the wheel then the axle, then the cart, then the horse, the harness, ect ect...
@Mr.Marbles
@Mr.Marbles 6 лет назад
PsychoLucario and he tried to do it with as many parts as humanly possibl
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva
@michaelnorrisisdabesteva 5 лет назад
Passion project for sure
@DeHerg
@DeHerg 4 года назад
@Holger H. Shit, we have to step up our game again. "Achim, bring die Atomuhr und den Phasenrichter! Hier steht die Ehre auf dem Spiel!"
@BeskuitenBroffie
@BeskuitenBroffie 4 года назад
yeah and unfortuanetly thats why the designer eventually hated the gun. He said so on the podcast :(
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 3 года назад
If you're climbing in and out of armored vehicles, the bullpup design is very helpful.
@monkeywithocd
@monkeywithocd 5 лет назад
That's some Half-Life level reverb in that firing range.
@Drrolfski
@Drrolfski 6 лет назад
These are the kind of videos that make this channel unique. There is hardly any footage on this "unicorn" gun out there, let alone one that explains it all as nicely as this channel does.
@kraaidievoel
@kraaidievoel 5 лет назад
Good comment I was thinking the same
@MemestiffGaming
@MemestiffGaming 5 лет назад
It really lives up to the name of the channel
@nowlindventura5015
@nowlindventura5015 5 лет назад
Wish they made more of these. You could have two types on shells and deliberately choose which shell type to fire. Very neat.
@Reaper5-3
@Reaper5-3 2 года назад
There's a similar shotgun called UTAS-15 which is a 12ga with 2 side by side 7 round tubes. The DP-12 is another similar one, but that has 2 barrels.
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 6 лет назад
These really should come back on the commercial market. I would take this over the current crop of barely functional multi-tube shotguns.
@jayzenitram9621
@jayzenitram9621 6 лет назад
Similar but cooler, you can get a Tavor 12. I haven't heard of any reliability issues with that, then again there's a lot of stuff I haven't heard ...
@arsenal_616
@arsenal_616 6 лет назад
Doesn't take much to make the KSG look like hot garbage. But yeah, I'd love to see these on the US market.
@Kizron_Kizronson
@Kizron_Kizronson 6 лет назад
Negotiate a production licence and set up a US factory. The higher production cost of the complexity will be slightly balanced by the , "buy something vaguely the right shape and mash it 'till it fits." idea used in this design.
@ootdega
@ootdega 6 лет назад
The KSG works. The UTS15 does not, and for 5 years they haven't even bothered to try fixing their $800 shotgun. Which is $100 more than the KSG.
@aspenfacer-valentine4397
@aspenfacer-valentine4397 6 лет назад
Kizron Kizronson Not really... I doubt the average gun maker has a forging machine capable of making a barrel that way. It's only used by the really high end gun makers like FN from what I've seen.
@159Fender159
@159Fender159 6 лет назад
This was like the best shotgun in the original Bad Company. Even at my young age I thought this was a peculiar weapon.
@hukaman88
@hukaman88 6 лет назад
I wanna load one tube with dragon breath and the other with the flash bang rounds and have fun at night
@eddyguizonde401
@eddyguizonde401 6 лет назад
who needs fireworks when you've got twin-tube shotguns?!
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 6 лет назад
I feel like that would start the gun aflame.
@Jixijenga
@Jixijenga 6 лет назад
Hornady PartyHard loads, right?
@bubba9384
@bubba9384 6 лет назад
4th of July, Merican style!!!
@dannygroom3327
@dannygroom3327 4 года назад
@@bubba9384 bubba, I'm pretty sure merican style 4th of July is the only 4th of July style there is.....
@CharlesHuse
@CharlesHuse 6 лет назад
I have a KSG and it's a great shotgun. If Keltec were to incorporate some of the features of the Neosted 2000 into the KSG, they would have a really great gun. What I like about the KSG is the manual tube selector. In the center position, it actually blocks both tubes from feeding rounds to the chamber. This is actually a great safety feature as it allows you to extract an unfired shell from the chamber without cycling another from the magazine into the chamber. The only other shotguns I am aware of that have a feed stop feature are the Benelli Novas.
@Nnnope
@Nnnope 6 лет назад
"I was told we have to finish the box of ammo" is the new "there's leftover cake who wants it?"
@KickyFut
@KickyFut 4 года назад
What's this "leftover cake" of which you speak of?😕
@ZacharySkan
@ZacharySkan 3 года назад
No it's the new version of "19 dollar fortnite card. Who wants it?"
@maxpulido4268
@maxpulido4268 2 года назад
@@ZacharySkan free fortnite cards here! See me in my van.
@Mikki-Moo
@Mikki-Moo 5 лет назад
I see you are a blood donor, Ian. I am a volunteer paramedic for the Red Cross here in Austria, so I can whole heartedly say, I respect every blood donor including you! An unofficial thank you from the Red Cross!
@bloodhit1
@bloodhit1 6 лет назад
That shotgun was beast in the Bad Company 2.
@enen7188
@enen7188 6 лет назад
load slugs in and now its a sniper.
@aethertech
@aethertech 6 лет назад
one shot kill on any body part in hardcore mode. reload cancel for uber rpm.
@jamesyeager8490
@jamesyeager8490 6 лет назад
Bloodhit even moreso in Bad Company 1
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 лет назад
Bloodhit DAMN THE DAMAGE I LOVE IT
@MoeAji
@MoeAji 6 лет назад
It was hilariously bugged to the point where you can snipe people across the map.
@billjakerson2693
@billjakerson2693 3 года назад
Everyone: bad company 2 Me: M I R R O R ‘ S E D G E
@oneortwowilldo
@oneortwowilldo 3 года назад
I remember thinking about how the shotgun in ME was pretty weird looking for a KSG, but now I understand completely Didn't even occur to me that the KSG was first released several years after ME, lmao
@Chevypotamus
@Chevypotamus 6 лет назад
Bad Company!
@Eksistenssi
@Eksistenssi 6 лет назад
this with slugs
@DMNSMN
@DMNSMN 6 лет назад
Or dragons breath
@aethertech
@aethertech 6 лет назад
wrong game
@michagebicki5714
@michagebicki5714 6 лет назад
Someone tag Russianbadger here
@MrCrazyMoon2
@MrCrazyMoon2 6 лет назад
i knew i used this shotgun in a game before but couldn't put my finger on it ... thanks for reminding me.
@ivymike83
@ivymike83 4 года назад
I love the insights you can glean from an engineering perspective on a firearm like this. Some really great examples of 'reversing' some common firearm design elements (like moving the barrel instead of the bolt) and that twin tube mechanism looks super complex, but functions in such a straight forward way! Ian, thanks for finding and visiting the folks who own such a rare beast!
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 6 лет назад
* production gun too fragile to shoot * fires prototype instead On a more serious note, I wonder why we haven't seen more bullpup shotguns. The biggest downside to the bullpup configuration is swapping magazines, but the vast majority of shotguns are still tube-fed anyway.
@tamlandipper29
@tamlandipper29 6 лет назад
I would guess that bullpup shotguns originated with a requirement from people riding around in armoured vehicles. With the end of apartheid I guess less need?
@hunglikeahorse120
@hunglikeahorse120 6 лет назад
Your comment got me thinking about a Styer AUG chambered for .410 slugs. She'd be a nasty little devil.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 6 лет назад
what about having it in car next to you for police? not bad idea either.
@BadlanderOutsider
@BadlanderOutsider 6 лет назад
There's several reasons: the first is that a bullpup isn't really necessary for most people who want shotguns; the primary sales of shotguns outside of the US is for sporting use and so NEEDING a shorter gun isn't really necessary; useful in some circumstances, but worth developing whole new guns? In addition, many countries have barrel and overall length restrictions on their shotguns, so this can work against it in many cases by limiting the market which is one of the reasons why Kel-Tec made their very long version of the KSG. Military units also typically do not use shotguns in an offensive capacity and so a shortened pump action shotgun can fill the utilitarian role (though some units have used bullpup shotguns, they tend to be specialists). In addition there's cost; a bullpup shotgun tends to cost more than a regular one, and if you have to buy, say, three hundred shotguns for a police department, would you rather grab off the rack Mossberg 590s or go for three hundred bullpup shotguns? On that note, training is another issue, though one that can be managed. However most people buying shotguns for military or police purposes are replacing old inventory and so the benefits would have to outweight the problems of retraining with a brand new manual of arms. There's also the mechanical concern; bullpup shotguns tend to be a bit more complicated than normal ones, and when one of the strengths of a shotgun is mechanical reliability, this again works against it. You can argue that the extra magazine capacity is worth it, but a Mossberg 590 with a 20 inch barrel is already quite compact and has a decent magazine for practically any domestic situation encountered by most law enforcement across the world; and where extra firepower is needed, police typically carry short barreled rifles and carbines. There are more and more of them out there than before, however; I think several Turkish companies are producing bullpup shotguns based off several actions for instance, plus you have the KSG and the K12 Chinese Bullpup shotgun has had some success in Canada.
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 6 лет назад
There was actually a Steyr bullpup shotgun, it was proposed for the Advanced Combat Rifle thing years ago and it would be an open bolt 3-burst shotgun with propietary flechette ammo
@Zorbatron
@Zorbatron 6 лет назад
What an ingenious design. They really thought of everything, and assembled it all in such a unique and elegant manner. Bravo!
@VisualBasic6
@VisualBasic6 6 лет назад
OK WOAH CHILL OUT THERE. Iv been searching for YEARS for this thing after I saw it in the Battlefield franchise YEARS ago. Only saw props and airsoft NEVER the real thing. THIS IS COOOOOOOOOOL
@eobardthawne3333
@eobardthawne3333 6 лет назад
Where is the Airsoft replica?
@AaronAlso
@AaronAlso 5 лет назад
Every time you showcase a firearm from a South African designer I am amazed at how they are built. In some respects it's like reinventing the wheel, but at the same time I can respect that they aren't just copying previous designs from other weapons.
@stewartw.9151
@stewartw.9151 5 лет назад
That is the result of sanctions on any equipment and supplies on many kinds and especially firearms, parts etc until 1994, perhaps a bit earlier, against SA. Guys had to make a plan here with what was available.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 6 лет назад
The Quake II Super Shotty! :D
@voislavjankovic8732
@voislavjankovic8732 6 лет назад
So the Strogg were defeated by South Africa!
@damnedlegionaire
@damnedlegionaire 6 лет назад
Dinner-fork tongue *HUH*
@obsol33t77
@obsol33t77 6 лет назад
all squad leaders, coordinate with sister teams
@lucasartore161a
@lucasartore161a 6 лет назад
"Marines, we're at 5% ground force operational status"
@NotOneOfUs
@NotOneOfUs 6 лет назад
I *knew* this looked familiar!
@bob211
@bob211 3 года назад
Dude wtf this looks like a lego blaster
@TRIP_B
@TRIP_B 6 лет назад
Bad company 2 flashbacks
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 лет назад
Edwards Release the MCMANUS NOSTALGIA
@CreedK
@CreedK 6 лет назад
*slug hits you from across the map*
@ericcrawford7207
@ericcrawford7207 3 года назад
Imagine if this designer had teamed up with George Kellgren of Kel-Tec
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 6 лет назад
"What can we do to make a bullpup shotgun safer?" "Let's make everything super complicated and intricate and working together!"
@Dafmeister1978
@Dafmeister1978 6 лет назад
Is there any practical reason you couldn't just put a vertical foregrip onto the pump handle to keep your hand out of the muzzle blast?
@eddyguizonde401
@eddyguizonde401 6 лет назад
it might crack under the repeated strain and recoil? it might unbalance the gun too much? it might work too well? it would be too simple a solution and the engineers would gripe?
@CaptainCiph3r
@CaptainCiph3r 6 лет назад
Dafydd Flower there were people who thought that, KSG included, until they started breaking off and causing even more issues.
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune 6 лет назад
Not to mention the chainsaw grip offered for many shotguns. could be handy for a low slung shooting from the hips, though I am not sure how practical they really are if you want to, I don't know, aim or fire from the shoulder?
@CaptainCiph3r
@CaptainCiph3r 6 лет назад
Seems like the forward pumping action would keep you from blowing your hand off like some folks are doing with KSGs. EDIT: watched the whole vid, and you mention this. Lol.
@hobbitilius
@hobbitilius 6 лет назад
For having such complicated functions, the gun itself seems to actually be quite simply constructed. A really odd but incredible specimen this is.
@chuckmangione4747
@chuckmangione4747 3 года назад
Bad company 2 is the only reason I recognize some of these. That game had all the cool guns you never heard of.
@willowrabbit
@willowrabbit 6 лет назад
aww, you never filled the tubes all the way and then hit the empty button. I wanted to see the shells go flying.
@123456gordon
@123456gordon 6 лет назад
**Bad Company intensifies**
@archi2nd
@archi2nd 6 лет назад
Hmmmm me thinks Kel-tec and UTAS has some explaining to do.
@xXxKAMIKAZExXx
@xXxKAMIKAZExXx 6 лет назад
Strange how it pumps forwards. I remember this from Bad Company 2.
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 лет назад
xXxKAMIKAZExXx it is the best shotgunin the game
@MemestiffGaming
@MemestiffGaming 5 лет назад
In this case, thank god it pumps forward. I prefer having my little fingers not shot off :)
@ratsvim7980
@ratsvim7980 6 лет назад
it looks very futuristic like i could see it used by space rebels in a sci fi movie part of why the p-90 is popular because it was used in sci fi movies
@Chasmodius
@Chasmodius 6 лет назад
That and the KRISS Vector.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 3 года назад
And Calico.
@australiananarchist480
@australiananarchist480 3 года назад
and just because it looks cool in general. A lot of PDWs do
@iAmBrah
@iAmBrah 6 лет назад
thanks gun jesus
@MrDLRu
@MrDLRu 6 месяцев назад
I waited patiently for years to get one of these. I had heard about them in 89'-90' I believe. Later on I it was mentioned in Machine Gun News that Ithica may be manufacturing them in the USA...Sadly, that never happened and it wasn't until Keltec made their KSG that the twin tube bullpup shotgun was a reality here in the US. I then waited years again to get one, as availability and price stopped me from purchasing one. Bullup shotguns are everywhere today, and at some ridiculously low prices. Would still love to have the Neostead though, what a cool collector piece.
@braydenh190
@braydenh190 6 лет назад
Please the review GM-94. A pump action 40ml GL. This weapon uses the same type of mechanism to load the shells where the barrel goes overtop the round with the same forward pump motion.
@erik19988
@erik19988 5 лет назад
Or RMB-93, shotgun with the same to GM94 mechanism
@yelectric1893
@yelectric1893 5 лет назад
Gm-94 is cool
@trolly4233
@trolly4233 Год назад
I think I just realized something. All the guns from South Africa look like they are space guns. Elon Musk is from South Africa. Correlation?
@BillRoyMcBill
@BillRoyMcBill 6 лет назад
The worst thing you can do is short-stroke it...
@JesterNR1
@JesterNR1 5 лет назад
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@tg88montanaguy61
@tg88montanaguy61 3 года назад
The gun design looked ahead of its time?, for a Bullpup made back in 1995 kind of something you would see in Quake 1?, I think they? still make the Bullpup shotgun to this day?, just more modified better now.
@TroopperFoFo
@TroopperFoFo 6 лет назад
Such a cool gun. Ever since I saw it in Bad company 2 I wanted one. It was also in Shadow ops red Mercury which I think it the first fps to have it.
@Fightosaurus
@Fightosaurus 6 лет назад
Ian, you rock brother! Love getting to see all these amazing rarities. For this American, seeing these SA guns are especially cool.
@LiquidOwnage
@LiquidOwnage 6 лет назад
Fallout tactics gun!
@dissociativealeks
@dissociativealeks 6 лет назад
LiquidOwnage good eye there!
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 лет назад
LiquidOwnage *HISSSS* NO, ITS FROM BATTLEFIELD
@DimitrisSfounis
@DimitrisSfounis 6 лет назад
It was in Fallout 1 too!
@unrelatedcoma
@unrelatedcoma 5 лет назад
finally, after scrolling through endless comments about Bad Company i get to the end of the comments and find my Fallout player check in.
@Cruor34
@Cruor34 4 года назад
@@PHURHXD lol, child. It was in Fallout 12 years before Battlefield bad company 2.
@immaleaf4964
@immaleaf4964 3 года назад
"Ok, I think we designed everything you wanted on th..." "ADD BATMAN" "......what?" "BATMAN. ADD. BATMAN." " _guys...what the fu....how do we...._ you want Bat..man?" "BAAATTTMAAAAAN" "k. Whatever, the sights look like Batman" "NA NA NA NA NA NA....."
@gotthesinglelife
@gotthesinglelife 6 лет назад
I wonder if KSG or DP12 got the idea from this.
@psykoklown874
@psykoklown874 6 лет назад
Or the UTAS-15.
@GreenHellTube
@GreenHellTube 6 лет назад
It reminds me more of a turkish UTAS-15, especially that tube selector switch and a barrel under the magazines.
@frederik313
@frederik313 6 лет назад
blueman4444444 dp-12 Not so much, thats basically 2 Pump-guns next to each Other
@reaperreaper5098
@reaperreaper5098 6 лет назад
Doubtful if they're rare.
@MEGALODONGERS
@MEGALODONGERS 6 лет назад
I believe I read a while back that the creator of the NS2000 also helped design the UTS-15.
@shred1894
@shred1894 Год назад
Basically the Keltec KSG before Keltec even dreamed of a bullpup shotgun and made in South Africa.
@samholdsworth3957
@samholdsworth3957 6 лет назад
Nice karate chop!
@hax0r117
@hax0r117 6 лет назад
Bullpup forward-pump shotgun? Of course it's South African lol
@etam083
@etam083 6 лет назад
*1000 yard stare* I fear no man, but this thing, it scares me. Any BFBC2 player knows the horrors
@Frinz
@Frinz 6 лет назад
Didn't we all hate being killed with that thing in Battlefefield: Bad Company 2?
@seven-sixtwo762
@seven-sixtwo762 6 лет назад
this was a beast on Bad Company 2 especially with slugs
@jeff3784
@jeff3784 6 лет назад
This thing with magnum ammo perk at Port Valdez. Shoothing them down out of the sky as they dropped with their chute? Man.... those were good times.
@verrueckteriwan
@verrueckteriwan 6 лет назад
Sniping Sniper with a Shotgun across the map :D good old times...
@DrTopLiftDPT
@DrTopLiftDPT 6 лет назад
Yes
@PHURHXD
@PHURHXD 6 лет назад
Seven-Six Two ikr 😂 i love this game
@100GTAGUY
@100GTAGUY 4 года назад
Jeff I did just the opposite, I shot them with this from my chute on the way down haha
@garethjames1300
@garethjames1300 4 года назад
When I was a air cadet in the 80,s we were shooting the Lee Enfield and were given a box of ammo finish off we shoot till our shoulders were numb best day ever
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 3 года назад
Ah yes, the words "we are not going to bring back any ammo." =)
@DrTopLiftDPT
@DrTopLiftDPT 6 лет назад
In Battlefield Bad Company 2 this was a beast !!!
@theexcount2712
@theexcount2712 Год назад
10:08 What about the "another interesting detail" of the hammer firing backwards? I need that part :'(
@Lar1ng1tS
@Lar1ng1tS 6 лет назад
Looking forward to see РМБ-94 (Russian combat compact shotgun) with same forward pump action. It's actually forgotten now despite of civillian version РМО-94.
@Ya_Boy_Bruh
@Ya_Boy_Bruh 3 года назад
Watched dozens of your videos over the past few weeks and this is one of the most unique firearms I’ve seen, very interesting!
@I_am_ENSanity
@I_am_ENSanity 6 лет назад
I wish games as good as Bad Company would come back. BC2 had amazing fun multiplayer and the story was hilarious.
@xCynder
@xCynder 6 лет назад
jjohnston94 You still can
@irrelevantschmuck2182
@irrelevantschmuck2182 6 лет назад
This weapon will ALWAYS remind me the Super Shotgun from Quake 2.
@MirakTp
@MirakTp 6 лет назад
Amazing Shotgun, especially in BC2 You just gotta love it
@andreasottohansen7338
@andreasottohansen7338 3 года назад
this is giving me some serious Soldier of Fotune: Payback flashbacks. Yes, i actually played that game.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 6 лет назад
how the hell did hollywood get a hold of a bunch of these if they only made 200ish, I've seen this in movies and TV somewhere maybe they were ksg's
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 6 лет назад
maybe they were keltecs
@donaldduck4867
@donaldduck4867 3 года назад
I’m guna send you some dummy rounds for you to use in videos. I love watching your channel. This one kinda made me nervous seeing you play with live rounds.
@Destichado
@Destichado 6 лет назад
Serendipity. Didn't you just have a Q&A on the other channel where you were searching your brain for a shotgun with the barrel below the tube magazine? This certainly doesn't have a traditional loading gate, but how was this to load? Did the lower bore axis reduce muzzle rise?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 лет назад
Yep, good point!
@knutdergroe9757
@knutdergroe9757 5 лет назад
I really like it. Complicated, So what. I am German.......
@sneakysnake7695
@sneakysnake7695 5 лет назад
Makes sense
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 6 лет назад
Could you reduce complexity by doing away with the recoil-operated slide unlock? Replace the release button with a bigger lever release mechanism, similar in concept to the release levers on some lever action rifles, that you operate on every stroke when you pump forward.
@garygenerous8982
@garygenerous8982 6 лет назад
andymac4883 alternatively you could have the equivalent of the 1911 grip safety in the slide which would accomplish the same thing with out the complexity of the recoil driven system but at the same time you wouldn’t have to manually operate a push button every time you wanted to rack the slide
@TruthSeekerD
@TruthSeekerD 6 лет назад
Or you could have it lock when cocked and automatically unlock when uncocked/fired like conventional pumps. Adding an unlock button that has to be depressed is a recipe for disaster under stress. Kinda like a KSG safety.. if you're used to an 870 the ksg will get you killed.
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 6 лет назад
Gary Generous That's about the sort of direction I was thinking; something easier to operate than a button, so that it's move convenient to do for each pump. Though for safety's sake I think it would have to be something you can only operate during the action of working the pump, rather than something you can operate simply by holding the fore end.
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 6 лет назад
TruthSeekerD Oh I agree about the unlock button being a bad idea if it has to be used on every stroke, but what about something similar in concept to the lever latch on an 1895 Winchester? Then again a lock on cock system would also work pretty well, as far as I know at least.
@mohawkdriver4155
@mohawkdriver4155 5 лет назад
South Africa designs fine weaponry like this and we have Kel-Tec.
@francoiswilliams
@francoiswilliams 4 года назад
ZA yebo!!
@vaeastra
@vaeastra 6 лет назад
Thank you Ian, Very Cool!
@SchwererGustavThe800mm
@SchwererGustavThe800mm 3 года назад
When you develop and build a shotgun on Ultra-Nightmare mode.
@murraylewis5690
@murraylewis5690 5 лет назад
Being able to switch between two ammo types is great! The gun is a little complicated, but not much more than it needed to be... I want one!
@OEFvet0311
@OEFvet0311 4 года назад
Tube 1: Rubber bullets for peaceful hippies. Tube 2: buckshot for less peaceful hippies.
@xl7667
@xl7667 6 лет назад
Isn’t that the quake 2 super shotgun?
@marzcapone9939
@marzcapone9939 6 лет назад
Is this over engineered or what? Cool as hell from a mechanical perspective, but I'd hate to be reloading it during combat.
@marzcapone9939
@marzcapone9939 6 лет назад
SonsOfLorgar I get that. Mossberg has their detachable magazine 590, I'll pass. I like that I can reload a standard pump gun as I use it. Just for a civilian/home defense shotgun, I prefer the 870, 500/590 types. Looked at the Kel-Tec, a few times, and I just come back to what I know to work.
@marzcapone9939
@marzcapone9939 6 лет назад
SonsOfLorgar I can't seem to get Glocks to cycle either. don't like the grip angle either. I'm sure they're good for plenty cause they sure are popular.
@leepalmer1210
@leepalmer1210 6 лет назад
If 13 rounds of 12 guage haven't killed the bad guys, made them keep heads down long enough for you to get cover, or you haven't been shot yourself while unloading all that buckshot then you are taking on way more by your self than you should. If you think the fight is going to go that long bring a belt fed.
@leepalmer1210
@leepalmer1210 6 лет назад
Sylas Grayson I totally agree!! With hundred round belt, quick change barrel, and easy to use bipod. I think the best way would be to build a MG42 upscaled and chambered in 12 guage 3 inch magnum
@leepalmer1210
@leepalmer1210 6 лет назад
Sylas Grayson and make your belt order slug, buckshot, slug/tracer
@solarflare1008
@solarflare1008 4 года назад
Once again your channel proved that nothing is new technology on today's weapons world.
@thr0ne1997
@thr0ne1997 6 лет назад
That's a piece of engineering art man.
@glockparaastra
@glockparaastra 4 года назад
Unique design. Good luck putting all that together! Lovely old Swartklip ammo! I still have some!
@amypond5726
@amypond5726 6 лет назад
I've been waiting for this for years
@danditto4864
@danditto4864 4 года назад
Amy Pond Just get a Kel Tec KSG. Less complex, does the same thing, can be sent back to the factory if you have issues. I have over a thousand rounds through mine with no problems except a short stroke that was my fault like crawling. Don’t forget to keep your right arm up, so you don’t throw a hot piece of ejecting brass into it.
@chadleyabrahams9134
@chadleyabrahams9134 Год назад
Proudly South African🇿🇦 Yes I am!
@SkyfallLodge
@SkyfallLodge 6 лет назад
I was really looking forward to seeing the mechanical function of the trigger. I like the complexity of design. This is everything you don't want in an actual go to war gun.
@RexApplegate
@RexApplegate 6 лет назад
I thought it was incredibly unfortunate when I heard Mr Neophytou say he's a harsh critic of this design. Such a cool system. I think it deserves to be built with better materials and sold in great numbers.
@KrisKrieg1
@KrisKrieg1 6 лет назад
It's Bad Company 2sday, except it's Friday. Works for me. Thanks Ian!
@ItsRawdraft2
@ItsRawdraft2 5 лет назад
Ayyy
@SpanishDio
@SpanishDio 4 года назад
Battlefield Bad Company 2!!!
@samholdsworth3957
@samholdsworth3957 6 лет назад
All hail Ian McCallum! All hail gun Jesus!
@tommyhill199
@tommyhill199 3 года назад
Upvote for the shirt alone. Thank you for giving blood.
@maaifoediedelarey4335
@maaifoediedelarey4335 5 лет назад
Genius. I had to say this, even if I'm South African !
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