I agree. The game has been soule built around questing so, having quests that are built around nesting would make sense and would definitely fit the games style. Personally I would like see more path of titans videos on this channel. You clearly have an interest in the game but, you don't cover the game enough....but that's just my opinion. I know your channel is mainly for the isle content..which I don't mind, but with path of titans and isle being the two most talked about survival games at the moment and the two games a lot of seem to always compare again, I think more path of titans videos would be very welcome.
This idea needs to be integrated in pot 100%, the npcs herds could be the key for players to migrate making the players feel the game so more immersive, yeah in officials could be mixpacks and kosers but there will be people that its gonna protect the herd, that fights would be so good to watch in the game
The idea is interesting, my main issue is if PoT can make an AI that smart to say listen to a parent or know what to do with danger rsther then run in a straight line like critters. Also itd be a little unfair for carnis in that many POIs to get a "hunt _" quest since it gives the herbis away when their probably trying to keep their nest and babies hidden, maybe if you get in a certain raidus of them you get the quest but idk
@@SHAZZZZZA that has nothing to do at all, even if both are called "IA". The only difficulty to make NPCs in online games is performance implications when calculating all their actions, like collision detections, paths calculations based on terrain, other NPCs and players detection etc. This is not a problem in offline game as this is done by your pc, so the impact in performance is very low. But in online games this need to be done by the server. The best example that comes in mind is GTA V. If you played it, have you noticed when in offline mode, the world is full of NPCs , but when playing online there are only few NPCs?
My idea for nesting is that people who get nested either get increased growth or passive growth, it would not only give a reason to nest, but it would also make destroying nests more important so you don't have competition
Adding quests that require a player to nest would be so beneficial and bring more fun to the game honestly! But also it would help all realism servers we have on PoT now so people don’t have to nest near waystones but wherever they want 😊 I can’t wait for the nesting to be implemented.
The fact that this was not the game makers idea makes me extremely sad since there is a good chance that this is not what they are actually thinking. I LOVE THE WHOLE IDEA!!! The way that it would change this game would be amazing we should do a petition or something to make the makers watch this video and hear us out!!! GREAT JUST GREAT THE BEST THING I COULD HAVE EVER ENVISIONED FOR THIS GAME 100% HANDS DOWN!!!
Nesting will probably be how you get AI teammates. Or maybe nesting would just result in a couple AI hatchlings running around your hc like they’re pets who knows.
@@TheTinyTyranidI think a good way to balance that is to make to where the ai would spawn or respawn as babies at the nest so you don't have constant reinforcements of adults.
Nesting could work where you could turn ai dinosaur hatchlings or nesting all together on/off depending on the server. It could be a quest if you have a male and a female in your group. It will also bring the hatchling growth stage to the main game, and adult dinosaurs will get marks if they help grow their hatchings to adolescent/sub-adult. Adult dinosaurs getting marks for doing this will incentivize them for actually caring for their young, and to help improve the realism aspect of the game via making players want to make their species prosper and make their “bloodline” the most successful one. A new quest that can come out of it is for other creatures of the same species to hunt and kill the babies to make their “bloodline” the more successful one. Overall, this is a very intriguing idea for PoT that I can’t wait to see in the future
Your idea about the AI herds and the quests related to them is absolutely genius. I would love to see something like this implemented in either PoT or Evrima
I think nesting has the main purpose of controlled spawnign location. In the Isle you have spawn regions, which is why nesting is kinda pointless atm. If you wanna play with your friends you can just all spawn in northwest and meet up within less than 10 minutes. In Path you have no control over where you spawn plus the map is bigger, so being able to all spawn together hrough a nest would be beneficial.
once AI dinosaurs are added and If they can nest, single player might actually be fun to play, as you wouldn't have to worry about a bunch of KOS players. If thats the case for single player, maybe if you make a dinosaur you get spawned into a nest from the AI dinos and each Dino has a couple starting populations which grow over the amount of time that the world is running, and the carnivores keep the herbi population in check. Mods could also be added to your world to make it feel less empty in some parts.
Hey Zaguer, huge fan of your videos. I just wanted to suggest a topic, which is the Chat in the isle. Maybe other people will also agree, that the chat in legacy was way better than in evrima. When I played in legacy I made friends almost instantly, because there was always someone talking in global, you could read egg invites and find people to play, while also socializing between any dino. Meanwhile in Evrima the fact you only chat with local it feels way lonelier, I can't also see other players and send invites by searching their name tag, and even see where they are because if they go too far away or I enter with a friend but we spawn in deferent areas we can't know where we are in relation to one another. I just think the global chat and group should be brought back to Evrima as well as being able to see the server players. For a game that relies a lot on waiting or forming groups to hunt and survive it is very limited in Evrima and I think a big part of the fun was the socialization aspect of the game. In my experience Evrima gets very boring since I can't ask for an invite or chat with other players, or see if people are offering eggs to join and it's mostly surviving alone until you find someone, but if you drift to far away they disappear and you can't talk to them. Big part of the fun of legacy was/is the socialization aspect and I think Evrima is eliminating this.
I have fun with some of them. Being able to pick up random objects and carry them around, and actually seeing items you collect instead of just gathering from a point on the map, are nice details that help immersion.
If this is to be done they however have to make sure the herds are no pushovers. We are talking about a herd of giant herbivores, I don't wanna see them scurrying from one sub adult allo. That said tho I believe when ai was first in pot it had "moods" which would along with needs influence the ais actions. If each ai was also equiped with simple personality trait this could be a super complex and amazing system!
Tbh this could totally work! But the only issue is well.. if the ai will be good enough to make this a possibility 😕 It would be neat to have the Ai level of complexity as rain world for example! But whether the devs are able to pull this off will have to see.
Honestly I think they could get people to nest by the parents veing able to teach their young a skill while still young they'd normally get a higher growth stage. Or mabye inherite one of their parents skins that theyy can only use for that certain dino character, and if they change it they lose it. I know people 100% would do it just for those reasons.
Great idea, love it! Honestly this is pure gold, this game would literally explode but they can't make an AI smart enough to do all that... At it's current rate maybe 20 years from now. Of course we'll just get something similar soon but dumb'd waaaay down for budget
I’m of the same opinion. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, but as of rn, pot offers nothing in terms of experience besides dino battle simulator. At its core, pot should still be a survival game, with some mmo elements sprinkled in to give it a different flavour from its competition. Nesting, courting and diets would all be excellent additions to the game, with the questing system being incorporated into them. The game has so much potential.
I hope PoT sees this its a good idea, just like normal quests you would have to find the traveling herd. until becoming a juv or half way through hatchling the herd would not be able to move much, because of this carnivores would receive larger rewards for the older the baby.
I'm sorry its such a long comment, I've had these ideas for quite a while so this is the perfect spot for them! I think that when nesting you possibly get the adult's skins when they nested you, say a melanistic allo and a hooded allo nest together, you're most likely too get the hooded allos skin then the mela skin, but theres still a chance. There should also be a possibility for you too get the default skin because its the base skin, say around 45% for it, 45% for the hooded skin, and only 10% for the mela skin in this situation. The skins wont be pure copy and paste of the adults' either, its gunna be randomized. I don't think this will be too hard for them too do because they already have the randomize skin option. Oh, and also this would be the same with the subspecies, say the mela allo was speed build and the hooded allo was defense build, the offspring would then get a possibility for any subspecies since theres still the balanced one by default. And gender would be randomize by default too, well with the subspecies change available in game already, and gender too, if someone isn't happy with either. Say I got nested in and I got defense and male, so I quested a bit too get speed build and female. With the addition of the "feed _____" quest being added I feel that could be specifically for the young when nesting, giving the parents and other groupmates too want too feed them. That would also add too the realism and make it so the adults dont nest in the babies and ditch them because they got the reward already. I also say that if a child dies, (when in hatchling stage-adolescent stage in group and nested by the 2 parents) the adults should both get around 100 marks lost, it's not an insane amount but still gunna be a roadblock for adults that want a new skin or too swap their gender/subspecies. Another cool thing too add would be passive growth when the young is within a certain radius of the parents, or something like the well rested buff where quests do more growth reward. This of course could be tweaked a bit in the sever stats. There could also be a debuff if the young are abandoned similar too the homecave debuff, just not as strong. Say the mela and hooded allos werent great parents and abandoned em, the children would then get that debuff making them take slightly increased damage for about 10 minutes after they have been abandoned. That isn't the best idea here but still possible incentive too make the adults wanna stay and the young more dependent on the adults' presence. There could also be a nesting site for certain dinos, say allo needs too nest in Titans Pass too get more marks. They don't need to go there too nest but the boosted marks would make them want to. I also think that if the young are nested in that area they could get like 24 hours of passive growth till they reach adolescent (24 hours too reach adolescent without any quests) too help them grow a bit quicker.
Hello ! I am Estelle Bertinotti, the artist behind the thumbnail art you used. Thank you for crediting me (not everyone does it), but I would have liked you to ask me before using it ! ^^ This is technically stolen from my online library (maybe Artstation? Where did you find this artwork ?) I also inform you that I do commissions for dinosaur illustrations so if you are interested, I can draw the thumbnails especially for your YT videos ! And while I'm at it, I love your videos and I am subscribed for some time now !! And I would LOVE to have nesting in PoT for sure !! I think its the #1 thing I'm waiting for in this game ! :)
Hello Estelle! Thank you for reaching out, my apologies regarding the art, i usually use artwork from the games i cover being this video in specific one of the rare exceptions. nevertheless it is completely fine if you do not consent with the use of your work on my thumbnail so in case you want me to remove im more than willing to do so, please let me know. Once again i appreciate the polite approach and apologies for any inconveniences that this might have caused
@@XZaguerthank you for your understanding 🥰! I technically have no problem with my art being used in this video, you can keep it. I just prefer being asked 😊 oh and if you are interested, I can do special illustrations commissions for thumbnails videos ! With dinosaurs in specific situations and with my more recent style and skills (cause this art is old haha) to illustrate your videos!
I think this idea is what survival dino lovers are yearning for. A nestling and dynamic survival system that Dosent rely souly on other players to make it happen correctly. The AI can proved us the tool we need to make the experience realistic and immersive without having to instruct other players to take part in it.
Love the idea and all the other commenters' expansions, but nesting seems over expanded compared to hunting, foraging and movement quests. What I can think of to solve that problem is: hunting specific creature quests, a system of hunting other carnivores in your area, a system of being 'peckish' randomly rarely and commonly during the pregnancy stage, where you have to eat really out of the way things, Foraging for your young, foraging more things in more areas, a digging system like for dens but for roots and vegetables, Moving to certain areas before you can make a nest (which would increase carnivores in those zones, making them natural hotspots, and specific areas for specific creatures so there's no rexes next to kangaroo nests) and of course, we need some kind of multi-species mix packs that are allowed, EG, no trikes and stegos but paras and lambios are fine. Your videos are good stuff, btw.
I feel like it would be cool to get a completely different set of quests of type of quests based on family units. Being grouped with a dino related to you.
I hope they make nesting and the game in general in a way that it would solve the mix packing problem KoS'ing everything they see. This game would be so much better if they gave players a reason to protect each other. Currently, you can never feel safe around adult herbs as another herb, they may just kill you for sport because they have NO reason not to, other than protecting their quest area from being emptied with resources. For carni's it's a bit different since they depend on meat, so you basically never feel safe around them. You never know who's hungry, or kill for sport. Once, me and my buddy tried to help an adult rex getting attacked by 3 Patchy's, me using my Desp and the boost rexes roar. Even when turning the back to the rex to fight of patchy's (lagging all over the place as they always do 😪) the rex chose to attack us as well every now and then, making us worry more about our health than staying offensive. Can't really say I have any good solution for it, but I wish they at least would encourage staying with your own "species" and that it would be beneficial. And maybe nesting could be a solution for this. It would create another problem however. There will be even less solo players, and they would stand even less chance to survive alone as others group up. Already a problem as it is. Players seem to choose the strongest dinos, team up, and just wreck havock for fun ( usually attacking solo players for a easy "win" ) All in all, great game, but matching reality with a game like this is a hard nut to crack to make it enjoyable for all dinos. Make it realistic and 99% of players choose the strongest dinos to not be at a disadvantage, and diversity goes down the drain. Make it unrealistic so everyone stands a chance, it takes away the immersion of playing a "realistic" survival game.
I would love this! It’d make the game way more immersive and fun imo. Especially with competition between predators hunting, herbis protecting their young etc I would be curious to see if they could implement this kinda thing with carnivores too. AI carnivores would be cool but i could see some issues
I like this proposal & it sounds good on paper, but what The Isle has taught me is what sounds good on paper may not work in practice. I see a few potential problems with this... 1. The carnivores overhunting/kosing the AI herds 2. The AI young being dopy & getting themselves killed & ruining the quest for players. 3. It might just make the nesting grounds into a deathtrap for herbivores
Idk if there will be a quest in which you need to raise babies then it can become boring like the quests we already have. You must stay at the one place where you nested and where to find food? By the dinos around (as carni) which are most likely will be AI, so it's just a food farming in one place and is not better than current quests, maybe even worse...
this sounds like itd be fun for most servers but I am hoping ai and nested ai babies can be disabled for certain servers, such as realism servers. Ai is unlikely to act "realistically" especially to adhere with the profiles that dinosaurs have in many realism servers, so I dont think they would work for that niche of the game. I play on both officials and realism servers and id definitely have a lot of fun with this on officials and other servers that do not have realism based rules, but the ai part just wouldnt work for realism and possibly some other types of servers.
Of course the nesting mechanic from the isle would work on path of titans… u could still change ur skin whenever u want. I would prefer it you can make friends from the same species
Pot being focused on quests rather than the simulation destroys the game for me, only reason i play it its because its the only game of this genre available to consoles
Didnt i hear something about them adding like a higher growth past adult if that is the case you should have to nest and def so many ppl as one of the requirements to achieve that
What i would love from this game is 2 new maps one would be fully land no sea and the other full ocean and tiny islands bc if theres both sea and land then id like herbivore ai to hunt and make it so you dont really have hotspots but its more spreded id add slow passive growth better quest the nesting mechanic make a better skin system and more ocean creatures bc we have 1 xd
this would definitely work on realism servers but i dont see it working for official servers since people really only fight in mega packs and wipe the server theyre in edit: I can also see people nesting in others just to kill them for food or trolling
Pot is a survival game tho, it just isnt in your face about it like the other games are. Having to eat, having to drink, having to survive, and having to grow all objectively make pot a survival game
To be honest questing is the main reason im not playing PoT that much anymore, it’s so boring it makes me wanna puch my screen every time im looking for tigre nuts as a T-Rex it kills all of my immersion…
This would not work. For one, AI would need to be extremely smart. They would need to make decisions about how they will respond to a threat, and make that response effective. Right now, we have like... AI run in a straight line and run away, even if you are a tiny juvi that they could kill easily. Way too simple. And if this is what we will get as AI herbivores... then they will be easy pickings for carnivore players. Plenty of food. Also, considering there are a LOT more carnivore players than herbivore players on a server... Herbivores would fail their nesting quest most of the time. Not to mention carnivores can just waystone one another back to the location and just keep attacking until the herbivores are all gone. Giving away nesting locations would also backfire. In theory, it sounds good but in reality, it is unviable. Not unless you can somehow raise the amount of herbivores on servers vs carnivores to make something like this even remotely possible.
This game needs something soon or it's going to be over before it ever gets a real start. You should'nt join an official sever unless youre trying to play GTA with dinosaurs. The whole official server is one of the most toxic communities I've ever witnessed
Nesting is a mechanic that actually requires a lot of time, effort, and good coding to be done right, something that Deathlyrage has proven time and time again he's not capable of delivering.
I think it should be like the isle, actual players being nested. It’s just not as fun with AI, you can’t really communicate much, and AI would probably just run around like clueless pigeons.
What if... here me out... they allowed you to crossbreed (unrealistic i know). But not like Trike in rex. Im talking like Sucho and Spino or Alberta and sty. Creatures like that. It could be a 1 or 2 generational thing since most crossbreeds are sterile. They could design halfway points between stats and abilities so that they would be special (and maybe so stats that are worst because of genetic defects) and the only way to play these dinos is to be nested in.
