Lamb, as someone who loves these old metallica tones as much as you do, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you making videos like this and showing the world all sorts of different ways to get close to those amazing classic sounds. You've got great ears for the sound and your playing does it justice. Great work as always.
Wow I'm surprised how close that got. The ++ second skin is a mod done to the IIC+ that adds a bit more gain. It's a mod Hetfield did for Puppets/Justice/Black.
The "1 and 2" described are actually the IIC+ and IIC++ respectively. The ++ has more gain and I have heard Hetfield mainly used that rather than the single plus.
This is quickly becoming my favorite Neural plugin, and this Puppets tone is bang on! Would love to see you attempt to get AJFA's tone out of it as well!
Happy 37" Joyous Anniversary Master of Puppets. Enjoyed the video. Interesting to go through the notes and go through the settings. Having a listen in and seeing What gave them that sound.
There is a preset called "Metal up your!" in this plugin. Instant Metallica. Closest tone to And Justice For All and Master Of Puppets I have ever played. Desperately trying to recreate it in my Quad Cortex now. :D
Awesome, thanks Lamb for covering this plugin and nailing that classic Metallica tone again. I've had it for a couple of days now and absolutely love it.
Have not played electric in some time sadly, yet your playing reminds me of the first day I got my hands on Master of Puppets and cranked it on my portable cassette player in the back of the family station wagon somewhere on vacation. Makes me want to pick up another electric at some point. Thanks for the memories and great playing, man! 🤘🏻
Just downloaded the demo and played around for abit. I own a Mark III black stripe which is very close to a mark IIC+ and the plugin sounds insanely good. It's the exact same sound without having to worry about burning your expensive tubes. Will definitely be buying this.
@@gb1174 If you set everything up correctly its very good. You can get some insanely tight sounds and the Mark series of amps are generally pretty easy to setup since there is really only one way to set it up to sound good. You have to understand that its not the same as running an amp in the room through a 4x12 but more listening to a recording of an amp in a room through a 4x12.
Priceless! Loving your vids every time! If you get your hands on Fractal - it would be great to see you building tones. I don't think anyone I've seen to-date can get the sounds spot on like you do!
You really think that tone was “nailed” ? Really? I’m not knocking the tone as a whole, but it sure as hell ain’t puppets. He could get ALOT closer changing a few things ( the IR being one of them). Seriously, go listen to the record and then listen to this again, and tell me it’s “nailed”.
I have a maths professor at university that’s a lot like you sir. I spend all day learning theory from him and spend all night learning about tones from you. Thanks for the vids!
Great job, and extra kudos to you for using a Duncan-loaded Jackson for the sound test, as James recorded a lot of Puppets with his Jackson King V that had Duncans in it at the time, and not the EMGs that most people seem to automatically go to when going for the Puppets rhythm tone.
Yes. You need this cabs to Sound like mop. A Time ago I played my Diezel Einstein through a 60s 240watt Marshall cab.. dropped the mids and there was the mop Sound..
Great tone. Maybe a bit too much high end imo. The one thing they did was that they took the preamp out from the IIC+ and fed it into a Marshall JCM 800 power amp if I remember correctly. That would be EL34s instead of 6L6s. It makes a difference but nothing too dramatic.
You got very close, but the Seymour Duncan Invader bridge pickup has a very unique attack that just screams MOP in my experience. You should get yourself that pickup and give it a go.
I got invaders in a korean goth epiphone and man does it just nail the tone. I never would have bought them just because Synster gates is the only guitars I knew when I got it that used em. My uncle gifted me this guitar and as soon as I plugged in I was like wow this sounds more like Metallica than my ibanez prestige with emgs. Wasnt until years later that I found out they used invaders early on. Just got this plugin and with some tweaks wow it sounds so Metallica its insane.
If you'll notice, his mid is a lot lower than than on the 5-band EQ in Rasmussen's notes; so I would refer to them. Also, it seems the ++ was the right model to go with. However, unless you have a new angle on it (e.g. a tribute band, different settings, fx, etc.), the thing about amps is to make your own sound.
I'm guessing the different "skins" represent the two variants of the Mark2. There was the C+, and the coveted C++. I haven't had a chance to try the demo yet, but if it's the case, they should dial in a little differently. There was a tweak to the gain stage or sum-such in the originals.
@@mylogify I`m not too sure , cause i waited myself 20 years for that to happend and its still not too close, but it will eventually came to that point yes, but not any time soon. Probably about next 10+ years.
I’ve seen many Mark IIC+ plugins and have used a couple, this is the video I’ve been wanting to see! Using mine I’ve even wondered how accurate is it to the notes
loves this, as i live way up north, and there isnt any music or guitar stores , a Neural DSP might be the way to go . I thought u nailed the tone right at the start ! sounds great as always, cheers.
They were also using EMG 81 pickups on that album. I’m sure the natural compression and timbre of those active pickups play a part in that slight variation of tone you had to dial in after following his notes to get there.
I thought i had enough of these very cool Neural DSP Stuff (7 !), but here we go, just watched your vid and you nailed it, can't get enough of this classic Metallica Sound and will try to figure out a AJFA Sound, love this Album, can't do anything more than click on "buy now", thanks a lot for that!😎🤟🏻
Battery sound on 1st try. Of course, there's no bass nor 2nd guitar, but yeah. It's very close to the Metallica pocket for the albums 2 & 3. Surprisingly good and I'm not a Mesa fan. The MK5 is the exception and up here in Canuckistan, the few used ones that pop-up are so expensive that you might have to sell your car, so a good plugin is dope. Thank you for the rad demo
Ey man, you inspired me. I also played many many Years. But i didnt had the Money to find out what i am looking for soundwise. I was stick on my old nice POD XT IOI. But hey man, Time has changed. Neural realy got the Thing out. Now i like to play all the "Beginner" Stuff from the old Days, and it makes realy, realy fun. And you got a very distinct Drive on your playing too. Cool.
FYI - The black amp is the regular Mark IIC+, as used on the Master Of Puppets album. The blonde amp is the Mark IIC++ that was modified and used by Metallica for the And Justice For All [and The Black] albums.
I think the majority of the Black album guitar tone is ADA MP-1 preamp. This here (from 0:45) is a superb example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pbWdk2nmlak.html
Only video of the plug in that nails the tone. I'd love to hear an attempt at the Black Album tone. I've tried myself but there's a certain mid frequency that's hard to dial in, it sounds like it's a slight boost around 1.2 but I'd love to hear your version of it. Great job
It is a tough one, I ended up blending an IR with a 57. There’s a few Metallica IR’s floating around. On their own they’re a little much but sound ok blended
I can't even make this up the first thing I did when I downloaded the plugin was pull up the production notes and started trying to match thr puppets tone. Haven't watched the video yet but I'm excited to see how close you get!
