Neve Tone in a Box? - Caveman BP1 Compact 

Happy to help! Thanks for watching!

Maybe the BP1 has more headroom due to the different power supply?

@@IvanBassist I think it's the overall voicing of the preamp. Headroom surely plays a role but I think it's the sum of the used parts. The circuit designs are similar but not the same after all.

Did you get a chance to compare both of them to the BAE DMP? That’s ultimately the sound I want. I ordered the compact for the smaller size (and price, lol) but I’m assuming the full size version gets closer.

@@shawnsalon4826 Unfortunately, I don't have any hands on experience with the BAE. The store where I checked out the BP1 and BP1 C focusses (pretty much exclusively) on bass gear and I guess the BAE is probably more of a piece of studio equipment.

@@SquareWaveSymphonies thanks for the response. Yeah, the BAE is technically a mic preamp, but it sounds amazing when you run a bass through it. I think the circuitry in the DP1 is based on it. Either way, I just got the compact and I am in heaven. I wasn’t expecting it to make the rest of pedals come alive like it does. I don’t see myself moving on from this sound for a long time, if ever.

Plus it has a pre/post fx loop and pre/post DI

I’ve seen many positive reviews about it and some of my friends have it. I’m definitely curious about checking it out. Seems like a very cool unit!

@@IvanBassist it is absolutely worth borrowing one if you can, cracking little pedal 👌

I forgot about that pedal. I saved it in my web browser tabs a while ago and forgot it was there. Thanks for reminding me about it.

Happy to help!

I’m currently powering my QC with a DC7 :)

@@IvanBassist Did you use the DC7 to power the BP1 Compact?

@@btn006 yep

You still need to connect the Crux into a DC7 if I’m not mistaken. It’s much cheaper to just use the adapter cables. That is if you do not mind losing some of the power outlets of course

yea u still need to plug it into the 24v expansion output on the DC7 or a Strymon Zuma. Is a good addition if u want to save the outputs for other pedals, but it's definitely cheaper to use current doublers and combining outputs to power it.

I’m not using the BP1, because it does not fit on my pedalboard together with the QC 😅

@@IvanBassist understood and if it did what way would you go :)… be interested to hear your thoughts…

I’ll see what I can do. Thanks for watching!

@@IvanBassist awesome! Thanks 🙏

erik u comment on all ivan videos, got that homie lub :)

@@AJbassist Yup! Gotta give your friends them views and a bit of bass playing love :)

@@erikarko fck yeah brudder

@@erikarko i just noticed u put a video your , ur nxt to view now ;)

@@AJbassist Nice!! 😁😁😁

Maybe he used a DI box

sometimes gear is designed to avoid problems rather than to add much flair to it. it is true noone would hear if you have a quality amp (also like a noble) but they would surely hear if there is something wrong with your sound.

It’s a fair point and one that is debated to death on forums all over the net on all gear forums. Having had the chance to try some higher end preamps/DI’s versus more accessible gear the difference is often in clarity and sheen and of course the baked in sound of whichever unit you’re plugged in to. It’s also a bonus to have gear which doesn’t introduce noise and which delivers on each gig. Confidence in gear is very important especially when out gigging and we always want to send the best signal to the tech if we’re lucky enough to play a venue with in house engineers, maybe even more importantly when we don’t have the additional tech support! Using my new to me tube pre amp/DI the difference in clarity and overall ‘dimension’ to the sound is really noticeable. My amp sounds like it’s been opened up and the ‘audio bandwidth’ has increased, there’s greater extension to the lows and highs but the sound isn’t boomy or shrill at either end of the spectrum. The sound tech at my gig approached me at the interval after our second set at the weekend and asked what I was doing with the bass tone and described it as the best bass tone she’s heard in that room describing it as “just there!” and needing no work from the desk. She seemed genuinely enthused and I played the third set with a certain reassured confidence knowing my bass was indeed sounding pretty righteous 😀 The import thing is finding gear which works… it doesn’t has to be a £700/€/$ DI box but it simply needs to make you happy with your sound and if that makes you feel good when playing then you enjoy it, the band and the people watching will enjoy it and everyone comes away from the gig all the better for the experience.

Well said! Great insights :) thanks for sharing

​@@vendettawarcrimecare to share what tube pre/di you were using? I'm starting to narrow down my choices on mine

@@semiprohooker sure I was using and continue to use a Jule Simone preamp. I rate it very highly having used many different di preamps this one does a bit of everything. Tube pre, very well voiced eq, transformer DI, drive which does enough to colour the sound without being too dirty or fuzzy. I played with a noble and it’s great but to me I’d rather have the Simone as I think it’s world class sounding and more versatile too for about the same money. It’s a lot of money but I honestly feel it’s better value (than the noble - more tubes, more versatile eq etc.) and I don’t know why it’s not lauded the same way the noble is. If you get a chance to try one you really should!