@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt why fear a man who wants to feel safe at all times. He don't want any problems. He's sane and equipped like a guy who knows real self defense for the sake of defending yourself if need be
I love these kinds of scenes where it shows the hot headed younger fighter being taught a lesson by the much older, wiser and more experienced fighter who doesn't overextend himself and wins the fight through skill not tenacity. It is as said by the legend Bruce Lee "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
@@derrickguffey4775 he fucking was. One of boyka's guys switched his water bottle, with another bottle. Although boyka expected a normal fight, it wasn't his idea.
I understand why he would say this, because he's a professional fighter, but sometimes you have to build your profile. Had he would've won it would be great for him through the various social media outlets available now. But he lost so I'm sure his cache went down after this, because case wasn't as high in that world as the other guy was yet.
@@Clementine416 By that means the person you dread practice 10,000 kicks 1 time each lol. It should be Dread the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks 100,000 times.
this is what you call a KATA everyone had to go though this no matter what Dan or Degree you are everyone had to do it after you bow when you walk inside every) DOJO) I've been though this since I was 8 years old in 1980
Remember rule 1 "Do not act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men!" P.S. Rule 19 - "Always remember Rule One and ask yourself, why was it created in the first place"
@ɢhost wing chun is not useless, BRUCE LEE studied wing chun as a first art,then chipped away what was useless,[slow] and no one alive today could whip him,hands down
@@strattuner i did 9 years of bjj, moved town and they had wing chun so tried it out. the pigeon stance and foot pathing is just asking for broken knees or end up on ur ass the second you're off balance. hand blocks they teach are very good. versatile.
Michael Jai White.. is my inspiration for doing boxing.. and observing him made me reach so far.. Saturday I have a match and I ain't disappointing his teachings and knowledge~ Thank You MJW!
I think MJW just turned 53 or 54 but he’s still built like 25yo heavyweight yet moves like a featherweight. It boggles the mind. His YT channel has some interesting stuff on there regarding training that’s pretty useful and shows how he trains, stretches, spars etc. The guy doesn’t get the credit he deserves imo
If it's a legit black belt. I would agree. If it's the Choriok Master, I'd lure him into a false sense of security enough to get him to issue a challenge.
Just now noticed at 2:10-2:14. There was a critical heart strike. His left elbow was used to slightly lift the ribs and the sternum. Then the right palm was used as a blunt force strike to the heart itself. Not gonna lie very impressive move not easy to pull off even in an action sequence.
That form he used in the movie (forgot the name) is one of the hardest ones in my opinion to do correctly. Everything has to be correct: {Posture, stance, elbow placement,etc}.. Makes it look easy
This is the problem with MMA clubs that this movie points out -- the close minded practitioners like Cobra don't appreciate or take for granted what traditional training practices has to offer; doing katas and forms helps one learn many applications, proper technique alignment and balanced stances. Practicing on the board wrapped with rope to emulate a tree toughens the knuckles, knees and feet because the WHOLE idea of that method is to make your limbs, even your head become weapons. Calling a gym an MMA club where you don't include such traditional practices in my opinion is very contradicting.
As a practitioner of Shotokan I 100% agree.....katas also teach you discipline....knowing when to strike and when to defend because everything is principle.
I too practice Shotokan, and back and forth with Kung Fu. Sure the two are different disciplines but like katas, I also practice the forms in Kung Fu. And because of utilizing such practices, I can feel the burn in my legs and appreciate what the stances have done for me when delivering my strikes.
lilPopper Ah ok cool...I also practice Aikido which is my primary art....Shotokan is my second. I have learned if you stretch and strengthen your lower body when doing karate katas your stances will be better...let alone emitting great power and snappiness of your movements.
***** Not every Karateka will ever have to use a bunkai to protect themselves because they would be wise enough to not even walk into a conflict or start one. Most Karateka's practice the katas for fine tuning their karate which is basically budo. others just practice it to compete in tournaments. However though Kata is pretty much linked to kumite (sparring) so they would utilize some bunkai's from the katas but in a more dynamic fight savy fashion rather than a structured fashion. In other words they will shorten the moves to make the bunkai work. If there was no sparring then yes there wouldn't be a point to test the bunkai in a free form fighting environment. samething with the kihons (basics).
I dont mean to sound disrespectful to you or Lilpopper, but the only reason traditional martial arts techniques and theories should be used / maintained / studied is out of respect but most of all to discipline the fighter so he doesnt become just a guy who can fight but has a bad attitude. The person also makes a difference. Like the last fight in this movie, while good entertainment I seriously doubt that a knuckle strike could be used effectively on someone as big as Nathan Jones. Remember he hits him with it and leaves the guy practically KO'd. I mean sure on the average person you could hurt them badly with such a traditional move, but a superior athlete of that size is going to have a LOT of muscle, fat and density. It would be similar to trying to punch a large mammal such as a bear. Its NOT going to stop them like that. People can argue all they want and Im not saying its impossible. Take this example here in the very least. WARNING LONG STORY INC : Before I trained in anything when I was 16 I once had an 8 year old black belt try and beat me up. He was a kid and he still had his uniform on, fresh from practice at the dojo. He for some reason, thought I was harrassing some other kids because I was bigger and older. What he didnt know is I knew the other kids and was just play wrestling with them. He comes up tells me to leave them alone and when I said "dude chill out I know them, we are just playing" he karate punches me RIGHT in the nuts. I got mad of course, grabbed him, and put him on the ground, holding him there and telling him to not do that again. He tried to fight back but there was literally NOTHING he could do, not because I was better trained at fighting but because I was a "larger animal". Even though he hit me in the target area all it did was make me mad and hurt for a few moments. Keep in mind that while i was attempting to pin him to the floor he hit me a few times, kicked me in the legs all that and im sure that had he been my age and size I woulda got messed up pretty good. So while its good for modern fighters to respect the "old school", the old school still needs to realize the science behind modern fighting and WHY it is in the hybrid state its in and thats because a lot of traditional moves simply don't work on the vast majority of people / fighting situations. The kata of course worked here because its a movie and the guy did EXACTLY what was "predicted" when in reality a mixed style fighter is not going to do that. When an mma fighter sees his opponent get in a traditional type posture like that, the last thing they will do is play their game. Remember, "the best fighter is not a boxer, karate or judo man. The best fighter is someone who can adapt to any style. He kicks too good for a boxer, throws too good for a karate man, and punches too good for a judo man."
Bruh that really works. One day one rober tried to snatch my wifey’s necklace and tried to run away but i caught him. And we got into fight somehow and i tried that elbow on face instead of fist. I didnt know that my elbow is so powerful that he was spitting blood from his mouth😂
I like Case going through a progression of moves in his head to beat this dude, but in a real fight things are so erratic that you couldn't expect things to go so perfectly. Bruce lee even said it "it's hard to have a rehearsed routine to go with our own broken rhythm".
If you're experienced you can predict oponents move from his body positions, sometimes intuitions. Visualisations in hi mind are nonoseconds, plus his Walker is higher league than Cobra.
He wasn't going through a progression of moves in his head, the scene is showing him practice kata from earlier and he uses parts of different kata naturally as the opportunity to use them arises. The purpose of the black and white kata inserts is simply to show how the kata are translated into real fighting techniques, counters, blocks etc.
Not necessarily planning. It could just represent muscle memory. The whole point of training in martial arts is to push your body to memorize the moves so you don’t have to waste time planning them out, it just happens
By a lot of remarks i have seen here some don't know Mr jai white he holds black belts in seven different styles: Shotokan, Taekwondo, Kobudo, Goju Ryu (for which he studied under Master Eddie Morales where he learned to sharpen his Goju karate technique), Tang Soo Do, Wushu and Kyokushin,. White started training in the martial arts at the age of seven in Jujutsu and then Shotokan moving to other styles later.
Bryan Jones my mistake, haven't seen that scene for a long time just remember Boyka saying "I'll beat you at your own game, fists only" or something similar
I'm all for katas and traditional martial arts... but what a lucky surprise he threw exactly those techniques that made the earlier perflrmed kata applicable 😂
There comes a time when you've got to know your limitations in when to fight and when to back down. Some of us are too stubborn to learn the truth and when it comes to that, this is what eventually plays out to the end because you haven't learned from your past mistakes. Once you've become ignorant, you'll just become another victim of circumstances.
I like that Michael Jay White used his background in Karate to lowkey push in the real techniques into a movie. Techniques he uses look like they are taken from various Katas.
Jason Garcia - Yeah, I don't know what that reason could possibly be. It lacks choreography, precision, execution and, worst of all, emotion. And what's up with this constant slow motion crap?
Seing this and noticing how all of the hits with the exception of the elbow to the face were around the heart and floating ribs, I wonder how Cobra's Torso and X-ray looked by the time he made it to the hospital.
This is cool to show the effectiveness of kata practice. Kata has many applications including some secret moves. Ohshima sensei tells us we only begin to understand a kata after at least you've done it 5000x
how would you suggest I do that there is not any movie rental places where I live so either I have rent it and watch it on RU-vid or just buy the movie
Damn this is so cool. It's a lot like this movie I watched in 3rd grade where the leader of the Big Bad Billy Wilbilby Gang picks on Thomas Dumperstinks, who studied with a grandmaster and uses his training to overcome the bully
My favorite scene of all the movie. I love how Case calmly owns the arrogant prick of Cobra with the simple but wisely used moves he was practicing when he made fun of him as an asshole. The movie itself was overall pretty good, although I didn't like the cliché ending.
How many times did you watch this scene before you realized that the beating MJW put on Cobra was the same kata MJW was performing earlier in the scene?
I like how his coach advise him to played the long game, case is definitely getting old for a fighter so slowly tiring him out over the course of the match makes sense. Of course, this guy was too proud for common sense.
