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Never Use A SHOP VAC Without One Of These!! (Shop Vac Filter Bags/How HEPA Filters Work...) 

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Never Use A SHOP VAC Without One Of These!! (Shop Vac Filter Bags/How HEPA Filters Work...)
Almost everyone has a shop vac...and nearly everyone uses it incorrectly. Shop vacs can cause an even worse mess by distributing harmful, toxic dust around your rooms. This short video from The Honest Carpenter will show you the easiest ways to make your shop vac safe and highly effective!
FILTRATION is the biggest problem with most shop vacs. People tend to rely on the supplied canister/cartridge filter to catch everything.
These filters are good for much of the larger debris we suck up. But, they're often very poor at filtering out much smaller debris. Instead, they tend to eject these harmful particles back out into the room, where they settle on everything!
Also, the pleats in the shop vac filter can easily become clogged, bogging down the motor and making the tool work less efficiently.
The best thing to do to prevent these problems is use a SHOP VAC FILTER BAG.
These fabric bags, used in conjunction with the shop vac canister/cartridge filters, do a great job at catching the much smaller particles that normally get circulated back into the room.
They make a world of difference when vacuuming up DRYWALL DUST, which is often too small to be picked up by just the cartridge filter.
BUT, normal filter bags and cartridge filters aren't enough to catch the most dangerous debris--particles in the .3 micron range. Particles of this size slip through our filters with ease.
In order to get maximum air filtration out of your shop vac, you need to use HEPA filters--High Efficiency Particulate Air Filters. These custom filters catch up to 99.97% of particles .3 microns in size.
Rigid produces a great HEPA filter kit for their 12-16 gallon shop vacs. These HEPA shop vac filtration kits are OSHA approved for Table 1 work!
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@wchops7578
@wchops7578 3 года назад
The way I tackled this when dealing with drywall dust was to attach a 15 foot hose to the exhaust port and stick that out the window so no air or dust was recirculating In the house
@travis419
@travis419 3 года назад
Life hacks
@singlefather01
@singlefather01 3 года назад
Thank you for being my neighbor, jerk.
@murderedouttt3055
@murderedouttt3055 3 года назад
I use the rigid muffler, works like a charm
@verntoews6937
@verntoews6937 3 года назад
Yeah, me too, with the long exhaust hose outside
@jamesmchugo9422
@jamesmchugo9422 3 года назад
Your neighbors must love you. A water vault works better so does using a fine particular dust bag. That added hose reduces you vacuums power and runs the fine dust through the vacuums impeller, wears it out much faster.
@boogiedahomey
@boogiedahomey 2 года назад
You're the first person I've heard who understands particle size and capture (MPPS). Most manufacturers don't even understand it or explain it in their literature or on their websites. Kudos!
@harleyme3163
@harleyme3163 Год назад
in masks sure but vacuums are hardly impotart enough to warrant that kinda info... you wanna change it? just use a flat n52 rated filter... on things stick off the FALL off... easy hehe.. expensive but you'll never have to replace it
@charleshines7282
@charleshines7282 Год назад
They don't discuss it because they realize their product may on a technical level not be as good as they say it is. They just want you to believe that theirs is the one you need.
@emiliaescobar7652
@emiliaescobar7652 Год назад
Glad I saw this, I just bought a wet/dry vac, definately will get a filter bag!
@bobstranzenbach4700
@bobstranzenbach4700 Месяц назад
I wish there could be sets like that for all makes
@andyjame6835
@andyjame6835 10 месяцев назад
If you’ve never used an air filter these are great. ru-vid.comUgkx_dppjvjF8BYEmPSDTcgCUdRsgWYLXNHN I ended up with three after starting out with one. The noise level depends on the 1-3 settings with how hard you want the machine to work. You can also upgrade the filters and get one better for pet hair and smells which is a must have in my home. I noticed the air seemed lighter and easier to breathe when running the machine for the first time. Works great every time. Highly recommended!
@GreyerShade
@GreyerShade 3 года назад
Im glad that someone is going to make it big by being honest at something. Too many people getting their success from corruption and taking advantage. Never lose this honesty from your endeavors.
@jayson3900
@jayson3900 2 года назад
I'm 40 now but when I was in my 20s learning my trades working for other people the man I learned drywall/painting from wasn't big on masks and shop vacs. My lungs ache constantly due to how much crap I breathed in. Take care of your lungs. I can't stress this enough.
@onenikkione
@onenikkione 2 года назад
You are so Right. Sorry to hear about your condition, have you ever been screened for lung cancer? Also, the No 1 cancer is....... 1. Lung (1.8 million) 2. Colorectal (0.9 Million) 3. Liver (0.8 Million) Lung Cancer is 2x the second most deadly
@rorybellamy2533
@rorybellamy2533 2 года назад
I agree completely
@MotherAlgorithm
@MotherAlgorithm 2 года назад
I had to quit carpentry at 25 from developing asthma
@jayson3900
@jayson3900 2 года назад
@@onenikkione Nope. Never been checked. I have so many health problems as it is and most of them are from work with the exception of Lyme disease/ fibromyalgia. For that one, I’m still not entirely sure which it is. I tested positive for Lyme years back but a tested negative the second time a few years back and fibromyalgia runs in my family but the only way to confirm it is to run several tests to rule everything else out which I can’t afford.
@jayson3900
@jayson3900 2 года назад
@@MotherAlgorithm I’m sorry to hear that. I had asthma as a child. It sucked and still bothers me sometimes.
@squarenailco1747
@squarenailco1747 3 года назад
Always used a nutone hepa vac since I got my lead safety certifications 20 years ago! They are expensive and impractical but didn't have any other options for a long time! Since then I have come up with a few different options water filtration being the best! Used a two stage separation chamber to catch the bigger stuff, then water filtration for the third chamber! Keep s the dust from getting to the final filter and the weight from being to much for the main bulk of the material! Its kind of cumbersome and awkward but keeps my "Older" homes I work in more safe , and easier to clean up at the end of the project! Got the idea from the rainbow vacuum cleaner! Basically a cyclone system co.bined with a rainbow vac!
@wuer0012
@wuer0012 4 месяца назад
46yr old. Finally learned how to properly use a shopvac. Thank you.
@phongdang2874
@phongdang2874 Год назад
You can also knock off the dust from your filter using an orbital sander (without any sanding pads). The vibration will get most of the fine dust off
@165Dash
@165Dash 3 года назад
Wow!!! This may be the most useful video I have seen on RU-vid since the last century.
@kbenk108
@kbenk108 Год назад
This was a great video - keeping our lungs safe is often overlooked by DIYers. Please do more videos like this - for healthy lungs, but also knees, and lower back.
@JaybirdOnTheRun
@JaybirdOnTheRun 3 года назад
@The Honest Carpenter Ethan, I utilize a wet towel over my exhaust on my shopvac to catch any fine particulates that happen to pass through my HEPA filter cartridge. I just strape it down with some bungees and make sure to keep it damp. Great for working in an occupied residence.
@PlayshotKalo
@PlayshotKalo 3 года назад
Great idea. Thank you
@chelin7023
@chelin7023 3 года назад
Thank you! So many smart people out there …
@TheeRocker
@TheeRocker 2 года назад
Nice,,, a reverse swamp cooler :D
@nwskipro
@nwskipro 2 года назад
I used this method as a stop gap but the rag dried out almost instantly. Works well for a quick vacuum
@DM-lk5ym
@DM-lk5ym 2 года назад
Great idea, what kind of towel did you use?
@SabraZ850
@SabraZ850 Год назад
We are new homeowners and last year bought a house built in 1880. It had a very old fireplace which was unusable due to the unlined chimney; because of this we assessed the best solution was to have a gas fireplace installed. But before that could happen, we needed to clean out the ash trap that had at least a 100 years of compacted ash. It took my husband and I a weekend to remove over 30 lbs of ash, (using our new shop vac and multiple HEPA filter bags. Yes; first we started from the fireplace and worked down. They we had to go to the basement ash return and work up). It was a messy job; but made much less messy with the proper tools and filters. Thank you so much for this informative video. Thanks to you we had the proper tools for the job and were successful in our mission. Now we have a beautiful/functional fireplace for pesky Minnesota winters!
@jeffstangl1471
@jeffstangl1471 2 года назад
Spreading safety knowledge is commendable, although most mechanics I know laugh at my concern for lungs, eyes, and ears.
@statik47
@statik47 2 года назад
I call these people morons. This is the reason why they are blue collar workers in the first place. Many years later they can't figure out why they have so many health issues. 🙄 Not all blue collar workers are this way. Some are really intelligent people. However, it has been my experience that the dumb ones outnumber the intelligent ones.
@assembleellc2486
@assembleellc2486 3 года назад
Wow I really appreciate the advice! It's crazy how you cover the most basic concepts which people like myself, who have been in the trades for a few years now, didn't know. Thanks again!
@trentthompson2928
@trentthompson2928 Год назад
After watching this video and a few others, I bought a 12 gallon Rigid with the hepa filters. Such a big difference!!! Thank You again for your help and insights!!!
@mikel4510
@mikel4510 3 года назад
Best explanation on the the dangers of , and proper fixes for, dust collection in a shop. Outstanding! I even watched the ad at the end.
@eunhyuekpark6159
@eunhyuekpark6159 3 года назад
I never even knew these bags existed for the shop vac. This will be a great edition to my diy dust collector. Thanks for the heads up and another great vid.
@thechosenone3504
@thechosenone3504 3 года назад
Its worth its value in gold. I won't even use my vac without one now, thats how much easier clean up and safety has become
@clarkpalace
@clarkpalace 2 года назад
? I dont know how u cant know about a bag. Its the cost that discourages people
@shericreates
@shericreates 3 года назад
I have never heard of the filter bag before. Thank you. I have a dust cyclone but don’t use that all the time for other uses. I notice my machine gets covered with particles. Can’t wait to try this!
@stephanieray6587
@stephanieray6587 2 года назад
I wondered if someone was going to mention the Cyclone... love those things!
@mikeschirber3241
@mikeschirber3241 2 года назад
I learned to add 2 pieces of duct tape onto the outside of filter bag to reinforce it where the debris hits the bag as it enters it. This keeps the sharp objects from tearing the bag and defeating its purpose.
@BeauChampion
@BeauChampion 3 года назад
I have that vacuum and am preparing to set up my first home shop, so this was very timely. I'll check it out!
@EdieBabeMonster
@EdieBabeMonster 3 года назад
Your the best! Thanks for the kick ass tips.
@karlmartin2972
@karlmartin2972 3 года назад
Get a 25 foot pool hose, put your vac out side, hook up the pool hose to your vac leave vac out side, bring pool hose inside. Cheap, easy, no dust in the house.
@gordroberts53
@gordroberts53 2 года назад
Best description of the problem and solution I’ve seen. Happily I recently purchased one of the Rigid vacs. Thanks for sharing!
@hali22996
@hali22996 3 года назад
I always learn something new from this channel, always a unique take. Great Job!
@GaiaCarney
@GaiaCarney 2 года назад
Honest Carpenter, thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏾 you are educating the people about harmful vacuum exhaust products 🕊 the SAME thing happen with non-HEPA home vacuums, too 😵
@gregkosinski2303
@gregkosinski2303 2 года назад
Another thing I’d recommend is using a broom and dust pan for big loads of easy to get crud. It will save your bags and filters and the fine particles will not be essentially throwing a ton of particles into the air like the blower on your vacuum would.
@leroypoole1998
@leroypoole1998 2 года назад
I made my own system where everything goes into a large 50 gallon barrel and then goes to the shop vac. Basically a diy and larger version of the dust rite system by rockler. Works great and don't have to worry about filling up my shop vac. Getting the hepa upgrade for my ridgid is a no brainer. And the money pit continues...
@gvet47
@gvet47 2 года назад
Greg you can tell who is too lazy to use a broom.🤣
@DM-lk5ym
@DM-lk5ym 2 года назад
@@thomashajicek2747 Aha, so that's what the shop vac "muffler" is for, TIL.
@duster.
@duster. Год назад
If I am using a broom I first throw down some damp sawdust or failing that lightly spray the floor with water from a spray bottle
@ablanccanvas
@ablanccanvas Год назад
@@duster. | Smart!
@danielgomes4754
@danielgomes4754 2 года назад
I started putting one of these bags in my shop vac and it was such a blessing. Clean and no mess. I got mine from Amazon but saw that Walmart sells them too. Though you cant use it in wet mode., Its a must have!!!
@joanies6778
@joanies6778 3 года назад
Brilliant! I didn't even know the bags existed. I did purchase a filter for the outlet and that alone made a difference. This is so much better!
@zawsas
@zawsas 3 года назад
Awesome advise. Thanks for the scientific info. I have been using this for years and they’re excellent and A MUST HAVE. Keep up the great channel my friend!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 года назад
Thank you, zawsas!
@robertapreston4200
@robertapreston4200 2 года назад
My issue is, I can hardly afford a filter, let alone a hepa and a bag. So, my vac sits in the garage unused😶😒
@tonyc7352
@tonyc7352 3 года назад
Yes, this is a surprisingly little-known truth. I went through same learning frustration. Another revelation to me was when I added a dust deputy cyclone to that setup. Now my bags/filters last waaaaay longer.
@mikedobell4964
@mikedobell4964 Год назад
Dust deputy is a game changer. I tell everyone about this thing
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. I have the same Ridgid Shop-vac. I have recently come across this shop-vac bag and can confirm it makes a huge difference. Plus it makes the discard of dirty much easier and convenient.
@TJ-mo9xv
@TJ-mo9xv 3 года назад
I love watching your videos. I purchased a fine dust bag with my shop vac but I always learn something new watching your videos. Thank you.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 года назад
Thank you, TJ! I appreciate you watching. That fine dust bag will cut down on your air contaminants drastically 🙂
@ucanoe
@ucanoe 2 года назад
Hi, the inside bag option is not bad but I would think it reduces suction a lot. What I do... is use an old T-shirt and a couple elastic bands to cover the pleated filter. This extends its life and I tap the filter out periodically. children's T-shirts are a bit better because they fit better but not necessary. one large band at the top and a small band to tie off the neck and sleeve openings. or you can sew that shut, you get the idea 😁
@enufots4621
@enufots4621 Год назад
Wow, thanks...great info! For some reason I've always thought the filters in these shop vacs (all brands) are HEPA compliant. In addition, I've never thought about where the exhaust air comes out of it until this video. Since the air has to go through the cylindrical filter...that means it exhausts thru the grillworks on the center top cover. No wonder that there always seems to be very fine dust particles on the top cover. Hey, I love my shop vacs in the garage for quick clean ups instead of having to use a broom. I'm sure they're very much appreciated in a shop as well, but they sure give a false sense of security for your lungs!
@dannymeil3294
@dannymeil3294 2 года назад
I bought a small rigid vacuum and before I use it I was thinking about putting bags in it. But I’m happy for you explaining everything you said. Great information
@MJKCreations
@MJKCreations Год назад
Thank you for this video! I had just ordered the ridgid vac setup for myself, including the bags. I didn't know about all the benefits, but I do now. Thank you so much!
@thatfeeble-mindedboy
@thatfeeble-mindedboy 7 месяцев назад
Just remember, the finer the filter, the more resistance it adds if not compensate with major additional surface area. If you always pick up a lot of hair that makes it harder to clean your filter, you can wrap one layer of a fine netting (Walmart sells it as “Thule” In the wedding decorations area) … It adds virtually no resistance, but will trap the pet and human hair before it enters the filter, and is easily peeled off prior to cleaning and takes all the hair with it and it’s super cheap.
@dirkjackson8939
@dirkjackson8939 5 месяцев назад
Nice tip! Thanks!
@inaclowder9240
@inaclowder9240 9 дней назад
Bit late for this, but I believe you mean "tulle." There's a company called Thule which sells roof racks and such for cars. And if you really want to get esoteric, thule has a metaphorical meaning of any distant place located beyond the "borders of the known world". The guys that might be watching you and reading this tip may feel that way about the wedding decorations department. Wives will probably know what tulle is, and would be happy to get some for you. They do sell it places other than Walmart.
@frederickwatson557
@frederickwatson557 2 года назад
Wow, thanks for opening my eyes to a problem that has always been in my shop. I'll start using the bags again. I stopped a while back thinking that when I added my cyclone to the shopvac system everything would be fine. The cyclone does work well but I have always had that fine covering of smaller particles all over my shop. I'll pay more attention, thanks to your explanation. You are amazing.
@MarciRaney-tt8ev
@MarciRaney-tt8ev 11 дней назад
Thank you so much. I've really been confused about my shop actually bags etc. You explained so clearly and it really hit me as far as the danger of tiny particulate matter being blown back into our breathing space. Really a great video. You also emanate honesty, decency and character.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 11 дней назад
Thank you, Marci! 🙏
@michellegaza7740
@michellegaza7740 3 года назад
Great timing, I only used my new shop vac once. Thanks!
@toonman361
@toonman361 2 года назад
I see many alternatives listed here to your solution. I believe they do not take into account the average homeowner wants an effective solution that is easy to install. The price of the filter and bags is around $50. That's an excellent cost for a highly effective system in an average household. Thanks again for your advice HC.
@jayhitek
@jayhitek 3 года назад
I also added a poor mans dust cyclone before my shop vac that I got from woodcraft. (Supply your own 5 gal bucket). Works great. Less replacement bags to buy.
@twistedbarbell3950
@twistedbarbell3950 Год назад
Truly valuable info that I’m actually glad the algo pushed to my recommendations! Thank you for taking the time to explain this in a clear and concise manner!
@Ps51bx
@Ps51bx Год назад
Brilliant idea. Thank you. I will immediately purchase a filter bag
@TheReal1953
@TheReal1953 Год назад
I've been preaching the use of barrel liners AND use of pleated filters at the same time for yrs. I've even figured out methods to retrofit barrel liners in older shop vacs that weren't designed for them. Thanks for explaining HEPA bags and their purpose.
@themikeroberts
@themikeroberts Год назад
Are you saying the barrel liners are better than non-barrel liners? My vacuum only has non-barrel liners available. Have you by chance figured out how to use a barrel one on a small 4 gallon vac?
@TheReal1953
@TheReal1953 Год назад
@@themikeroberts Are you talking about the paper filter that goes over your pleated filter and is usually held in place by a friction ring? Yes, that's better than just using the pleated filter. What I was talking about is converting older shop vacs that didn't come with barrel liners, to barrel liners. Most times it can be done. No way I can tell you without yours in front of me.
@gedionsamuel2256
@gedionsamuel2256 Год назад
@@TheReal1953I wish you’d make a video just to explain the details.
@TheReal1953
@TheReal1953 Год назад
@@gedionsamuel2256 Love to, but vids aren't in my bag of tricks.
@jimaronson2323
@jimaronson2323 3 года назад
Another great video. I did hear about this before but just never bought the filter bags. I like the idea of the HEPA filter. I'll be looking into those.
@paulsmith9341
@paulsmith9341 3 года назад
I purchased a pleated HEPA filter many years ago and it clogged up really quick. I didn't know about cyclonic gizmos back then so I wrapped it in a t shirt which helped immensely.
@woodcraftbynieves
@woodcraftbynieves 2 года назад
Picking up my ridgid 16 gal shop vac and hepa bags today! Thanks!
@nemo227
@nemo227 3 года назад
Thank you. This is ANOTHER very useful video by The Honest Carpenter. I'm taking your advice TODAY! When it comes to your health and safety the cost isn't really a debatable point.
@NaserAlOqab
@NaserAlOqab Год назад
Ethan, you're awesome! And you have a gem of a RU-vid channel, especially for beginner woodworkers/home DIYers like myself. Thank you for your invaluable content, and much needed guidance!
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 Год назад
This is an excellent video, Ethan! I was wondering if you'd cover HEPA filters and you did!! A lot of people don't get to that. Be aware that your Ridgid shop vac HEPA set-up can leak and the only way to verify it is not leaking due to a breach in the filter or incorrect seating of the filter is to conduct a challenge test. This is normally done with vac's that are used to vacuum asbestos and lead containing dust to ensure that the HEPA filtration is working properly. As someone who has worked in the Haz Mat field, I've seen HEPA equipped systems fail the challenge test. Another good thing to do is to wet dusty materials to keep the dust levels down. 👍👍👍
@robertsmith3518
@robertsmith3518 2 года назад
Been doing this for several years , Thanks for putting a YTV ! They are worth every dollar they charge . !
@elliotignasiak5152
@elliotignasiak5152 Год назад
thank you for taking the time to share this info!
@andrewk-majordochomerepair6014
@andrewk-majordochomerepair6014 3 года назад
Not only do I always use a filter bag, but also use a Rockler Dust Right dust separator that significantly prolongs the longevity of each $6 fillet bag that would otherwise get clogged and filled up very quickly.
@danieljones2183
@danieljones2183 3 года назад
Never realized they make bags for the shop vac. Learning something new
@hectormata449
@hectormata449 3 года назад
I used a similar method some 20 years ago on my large Sears craftsman vacuum. But I put a smaller vacuum bag (less expensive) over the pleated canister held and in place at the top with a large rubber band; and I also put a hepa cloth bag over the exhaust and that has been working for me. I’m 77 and still active in sports and in my workshop. Thanks for confirming my safety idea that as a lazy handyman and Mr cheap o, I found this solution on my own some 19 years ago…after I realized how expensive those replacement pleated canisters cost and how quickly they get clogged.
@blackrockbrewing5141
@blackrockbrewing5141 2 года назад
I had no idea about the Rigid filters, thank-you for the info!
@michaelfrost5868
@michaelfrost5868 3 года назад
Another fine, informative video. Another job well done.
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 3 года назад
This was what I needed to know a year ago when I got my first shop vac lol
@jazzmonk5670
@jazzmonk5670 2 года назад
I’ll be picking up these bags tomorrow!
@bigdaddy7670
@bigdaddy7670 Год назад
Fantastic video, thanks for educating us on the HEPA filtration kits!!
@jeremywright1351
@jeremywright1351 3 года назад
Everybody probably already knows this, but adding a cyclonic separator inline before the shop vac will greatly extend the life of your shop vac and its filters. I use Rockler's and it makes a huge difference (probably would not use it for cement, I use it for wood chips and sawdust).
@keithsargent6963
@keithsargent6963 2 года назад
Yes I have the same one , I got it several years ago and it amazes me how little dust ends up in the vac unit.
@frankking1466
@frankking1466 2 года назад
Amen 🙏🏼!!! If you only use a 5 gallon bucket and have it connected to your planer , keep an eye on it cuZ the bucket fills up really quick & then gets into vacuum & clogs filter
@jeremywright1351
@jeremywright1351 2 года назад
@@frankking1466 Frank, I had this EXACT scenario happen to me when I was helping my friend plane a bunch of reclaimed oak. Luckily I had an extra shop vac filter bag on hand.
@jeremywright1351
@jeremywright1351 2 года назад
@@Grauenwolf I actually bought a HEPA filter for the shop vac just recently. I haven't noticed any huge difference in performance for the price, honestly, but I felt like it was the right way to go.
@tylerkammerer4932
@tylerkammerer4932 3 года назад
I haven't tried the bag but I always use the HEPA filter for my shop vac(rigid ). I use it as my home vacuum and it works great.
@1943vermork
@1943vermork 3 года назад
I have used HEPA canister filter from Rigid for few years to pickup drywall and ciment dust. I highly recommend the 20~30$ investment in such filter. And I regularly clean the filter with compressed air to restore the sucking power.
@gabeslifestuff9691
@gabeslifestuff9691 3 года назад
Hi . I want you to know I’m a lung transplant recipient. And this is great news for me . And others.as I’m still able to do work with my 3m respirator. Boy it gets sweaty! This information will help keep me and others safe. Thanks
@theresacurrin6395
@theresacurrin6395 2 года назад
Great information! Just emptied my vac the exact way you described. Now I will use a bag. Thanks so much for sharing 👏👏👏
@lorimcquinn3966
@lorimcquinn3966 2 года назад
Seems like adding a seal to the motor enclosure and where the top of canister fits would add to the bag and Hepa filter improvements. I moved from a "improved" Craftsman Vac to a Festool Vac years ago and feel the difference is worth the $.
@tonybrown3453
@tonybrown3453 3 года назад
Other options, get more hose, put it on the exhaust port and stick exhaust hose out a window. Or, put the entire vac out side, use extra hose to reach where needed, quieter too. Also, after cleaning filter and changing bag (do this outside), start the vacuum once while outside. It will emit a puff of dust, only then take inside to use.
@padraics
@padraics 3 года назад
Wish I could do that with my dust collector but it would pull all the conditioned air out of my shop in about two minutes. I am building a closet around it to block noise and force the expelled air to pass through hi merv HVAC filters before coming back into the shop
@kthompso43
@kthompso43 2 года назад
My shop vac has noticably MORE suction when I don't use filters. So, I do what you suggest, and use a long suction hose with the vac outside. The larger waste is still collected inside the vac.
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 Год назад
@@padraics Possibly pass the air thru a heat exchanger and out?
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 Год назад
this is a way better solution and one people could actually use... no one is going to stick with those bags past 1 or 2 uses, too much inconvenience
@vidatomica
@vidatomica 2 года назад
I just bought myself the Ridgid HD1600 and the HEPA filter to upgrade from the filter it came with. I just had no idea about the bag I could also use to catch the dirt im vacuuming. Thanks to you and this video, I'm getting one tomorrow.
@patriceleeann6682
@patriceleeann6682 2 года назад
WOW I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD BUY FILTER BAGS FOR THEM THANK YOU 🥰♥️
@MrCeora
@MrCeora 2 года назад
This was EXTREMELY useful information. I was in the process of trying to vacuum up cement dust and was hesitant and not sure to rely on the filter that came with it, as it blows dust from the exhaust side of the vacuum. Thank you very much!
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 2 года назад
You’re welcome! Be especially careful with that cement dust-definitely want to use a good mask too no matter what!
@still34u
@still34u 2 года назад
@@TheHonestCarpenter Eh .. nothing better better than some rock solid lungs!
@JDKaye
@JDKaye 3 года назад
Another excellent video, Ethan. You scored on two critical points… One, I use that exact same rigid shop vac., and two, I am a lifelong Asthmatic and this will make my time in the shop much more enjoyable! Thank you.
@angellas.1314
@angellas.1314 3 года назад
And longer.
@Manhandle730
@Manhandle730 2 года назад
@@angellas.1314 heh….. get it?
@richardstrada212
@richardstrada212 3 года назад
Another great piece of information that I never contemplated. Thanks again!
@makaveli2tt
@makaveli2tt 3 года назад
A pleasure to watch this channel and learn. Very informative presentation. Thanks for sharing.
@markpinther9296
@markpinther9296 2 года назад
I never considered using both the pleated filter AND the bag. I always thought it would inhibit suction too much but I really appreciate you pointing this out!
@MG-cd9ek
@MG-cd9ek 2 года назад
Use a sock works fantastic
@wolfgangzrx
@wolfgangzrx Год назад
@@MG-cd9ek Expand please,so you mean a pre filter?
@MG-cd9ek
@MG-cd9ek Год назад
@@wolfgangzrx nope just a sock. Works perfectly fine nothing else is required
@nquiz2
@nquiz2 7 месяцев назад
@@MG-cd9ek Do you mean use a sock over the filter , in place of the filter or something else? Thanks
@MG-cd9ek
@MG-cd9ek 7 месяцев назад
@@wolfgangzrx over top where the filter would go
@EdieBabeMonster
@EdieBabeMonster 3 года назад
Oh dang turns out I have been doing it all along but I did learn about pulling up the tab to stop dust when taking bag out.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 года назад
Thank you, Edie! You were on top of safety long before I was by the sounds of it 😅 Those tabs are a great addition though!
@debbiekerr3989
@debbiekerr3989 3 года назад
I just found out I was doing the same thing, using the shop vac all wrong.
@machninety7334
@machninety7334 2 года назад
Your video actually turned out to be very imformative. I thank you.
@adventuredad1614
@adventuredad1614 10 месяцев назад
Great video! Thorough, yet efficient. Thanks!
@rolfbjorn9937
@rolfbjorn9937 3 года назад
I made a homemade "cyclonic" separator with two 5 gallon buckets and a "thien" baffle. Shoddily assembled with orange buckets, hot glue, tuck tape, flexible vac hose and 2 in pvc piping and the bottom of one of the buckets cut into a baffle. I connected it to my 12 Gal Ridgid that has a bag and the 3 layer blue filter Only the finest even makes it into the bag. Contrary to fearmongers, plenty of ultra fines get trapped in the separator, not just big chips.
@frankking1466
@frankking1466 2 года назад
I made a cyclone dust separator too & didn’t even have to go buy anything for it!! Had pvc kickin around, had a 5 gallon bucket, some hot glue and even had some caster’s thanks to my hoarding/collection techniques!!!😊…I Frankenstein’d it & it works amazingly. Everyone says the bucket tips over & yes it did. So why not screw bucket to a piece of plywood/melamine/osb that’s a cpl inches bigger all the way around and throw some casters on it, mine hasn’t tipped yet!!! 👌🏼
@frankking1466
@frankking1466 2 года назад
I should patent the idea!!! 🤣 no joke, try it and see.
@donbushek
@donbushek 2 года назад
You claim that “plenty of ultrafines get trapped in the separator”. How do you know that?
@rolfbjorn9937
@rolfbjorn9937 2 года назад
@@donbushek Considering the types of dust I vacuum, I should clog my filter AND have stuff ejected in the back after the vacuum IF the assumption that these separators only collect chips and large particle sizes. The fact that the bucket is caked with extremely fine powder below the baffle, that my vacuum inside is not, and the filter remains clean tells me I do trap a lot of very fine particles BEFORE the vaccum. Without the separator, the filter gets caked very fast even through a bag.
@ajaehall7695
@ajaehall7695 3 года назад
One thing to keep in mind is that your body also filters the air you breathe. The reason small particles are so bad is that they can get very far into your lungs and get stuck. In the case of exhaust from vehicles, this means carrying carcinogens deep into your lungs. Obviously what you are vacuuming important to how dangerous the dust is.
@angellas.1314
@angellas.1314 3 года назад
Yes, but you don’t want you “built in filters”, Aka lungs to be filed with this stuff. Can’t shake those out 😆
@nwskipro
@nwskipro 2 года назад
Always good to control and limit the bad stuff going into your body as best you can, but also remember that your body is incredibly efficient at expelling toxins and foreign objects. Lungs are pretty incredible. Again best to limit and avoid, but in most cases limited exposure is nothing to lose sleep over.
@stevenlengyel9701
@stevenlengyel9701 7 месяцев назад
I’ve started to use a bag in my shop vac and it does make a big difference 👍👍
@NarayanaSarathy
@NarayanaSarathy 2 года назад
Very good information. Basic but thanks for calling out!
@LBCAndrew
@LBCAndrew Год назад
I use a “Herky Filters” reusable felt bag in my 14 gallon Ridgid and a CleanStream Hepa filter. Both are reusable and washable and have lasted me two years of moderate use and still going strong. I even tested it a while back by vacuuming up some fine powder that reacts to UV light and room stayed clean. Herky filters bags cost like $32 and are reusable and washable. I think the cleanstream reusable and washable filter costs like $35 or so. Much better deal than using those green hepa bags and filters.
@saxophonesunsetsmedia
@saxophonesunsetsmedia Год назад
Just got a new Shop Vac brand 4 gal 5.5 HP vac at Lowe's. Are the Herky Filters compatible with my model? Thanks.
@rhouse4958
@rhouse4958 3 года назад
I just the same shop vac and use a filter and bag, plus a special filter for fine dust. Plus I wear a mask when dealing with drywall dust. But then again I read the instructions lol
@angellas.1314
@angellas.1314 3 года назад
Well that just makes a whole lotta sense 😆. Finally.
@loisvreeland7623
@loisvreeland7623 2 года назад
Bought a 16 gal. Rigid at a Black Friday sale. Will get the bag set too. Catching fits cleaning drywall dust at a rehab vacation home. This is exactly what I need. I'm frugal, but this is a convenience I'm willing to pay for because I do not use it routinely. The slide to cover the opening is a good feature. I have 2 older model canister vacuum cleaners in which I use HEPAs. They make a world of difference for allergies. TKS!!!
@sagewilson1056
@sagewilson1056 2 года назад
Excellent content sir. Extremely informative explanation of the science behind the danger of microparticulate inhalants. Thanks!
@radinsyah1574
@radinsyah1574 2 года назад
In my experience, using a cyclone dust separator hooked up to a shop vac is by far the best way. Even the bag stays cleaner so just imagine the vacuum’s filters. Dust disposal is also way more manageable and practical.
@karian2
@karian2 Год назад
I installed a separator almost a year ago and can easily say it was one of the best thing I've done to the shop all categories.
@pck9465
@pck9465 7 месяцев назад
Does using a dust separator reduce the cfm of the vacuum.
@radinsyah1574
@radinsyah1574 7 месяцев назад
@@pck9465 In my honest experience, it actually increases the suction. No data though, and maybe it’s because of my hose setup.
@michaelfredt573
@michaelfredt573 3 года назад
Great info. Cleaning the attic, the dust from the exhaust was miserable . Wish I had seen your video first. Thank-you.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 года назад
Attic dust is a whole different beast, Michael. Especially with the blow-in insulation used over the years. Next time the bag+filter (and a good mask) will work wonders for you! 😄
@chefmichaelt
@chefmichaelt 3 года назад
I always learn something from your videos. Thanks!
@profcah
@profcah 3 года назад
Great info. Never occurred to me to up my filter game! Thanks as usual!
@markb8954
@markb8954 3 года назад
I added an old sock over the exhaust pipe on our ShopVac. Amazing how much particulate matter/dust just blows out the exhaust. Those specialty dust bags are pretty expensive @ $18.00 for just two bags.
@meabob
@meabob 3 года назад
knee high panty hose work good, too.
@nw24153ns
@nw24153ns 3 года назад
@@meabobthanks! that brought a smile to my face ...I hope that was a spell check insertion of the word "pantyhose" when typing or dictating the word "hose" as I'm trying to picture myself with the stockings coming to my knees and then the panties (with no thighs or hips) I would look really funny & I expect you'd be laughing at me too
@garryholmberg6502
@garryholmberg6502 3 года назад
Buy a duststopper and 5 gallon pail at Home Depot and you'll never fill a bag, of if you do, it will be in a different income tax year.
@Bob.Silverstein
@Bob.Silverstein 2 года назад
This video was very helpful. I've been literally going crazy trying to figure out why my best efforts to minimize dust have been failing (initially, I did not realize that the shop vac itself was shooting out dust!). But now that I understand some of the limitations, I at least know what I need to try next (dust collection bag). I suspect that will get me 90% of the way to where I need to be. Thank you!
@patrickpolizzi7
@patrickpolizzi7 3 года назад
I bought one about 3 months ago to replace an older shop vac. Since I was removing drywal stuff, I also bought the bag. I loved it.
@TheHonestCarpenter
@TheHonestCarpenter 3 года назад
Been enjoying mine too, Patrick!
@shadricosuave
@shadricosuave 3 года назад
I appreciate the honesty 😂 No seriously I love your channel. Good stuff
@soritessoreites1207
@soritessoreites1207 2 года назад
I have about 50' of hose. Depending on the job I either keep the base close to a window or door and have an exhaust hose made up of one or two segments, and a long vacuum hose for the work. The alternative is a short vacuum hose and drag the base around with a longer exhaust hose. I like this guy's idea but it still doesn't catch everything. We have a dog that sheds a lot and you can smell the dander through any filter, those oils become vapor in the vacuum process. Test it with a few drops of perfume and a brand new hepa filter. It will instantly fill the house (for better or worse.) With an exhaust hose there's no smell.
@davidfuller764
@davidfuller764 2 года назад
Thanks
@qwertyboguss
@qwertyboguss 2 года назад
That's because HEPA isn't designed to capture smells. Use an activated carbon filter if you want to rid of organic compounds.
@Kurt1968
@Kurt1968 2 года назад
longer hoses are nice but there are flow losses and you wont have as much suction.
@soritessoreites1207
@soritessoreites1207 2 года назад
@@Kurt1968 Flow loss is not an issue when the hose is on the exhaust side.
@echodelta9
@echodelta9 Год назад
@@soritessoreites1207 I can't hit you on the head with the math but it is. Resistance in the path from atmosphere in to out, the motor is in the middle instead of at the end. Normally vacs are run with no resistance on the exhaust, but here is the exception. Total resistance throttles the airflow and dirt as well.
@ShakespeareCafe
@ShakespeareCafe 3 года назад
The bags are cheaper than the filter, but not much I’ve reused the bags by cutting it open and reseal it I rely on an N95 mask and use a spare hose connected to the exhaust port to blow dust outside, not in the room you’re working in
@ronaldhaynes9003
@ronaldhaynes9003 2 года назад
Great public service message. Thank you for this information.
@keithc728
@keithc728 2 года назад
i never knew there was a bag kit for the Ridgid shop vac... Thanks!!!!!
@AndrewSmyk
@AndrewSmyk 2 года назад
Never knew the filter bags existed. Just installed a bag in my ShopVac and it is amazing how clean it keeps the inside of the vac. Not to mention getting rid of the exhaust dust.
@GrezMonkey70
@GrezMonkey70 3 года назад
Having a rather steep driveway, I simply roll the clogged filter down the drive, leaving a trail of sawdust in its path. Repeat as needed. Usually just one or two rolls gets it done while I safely watch from a distance. For my dust collection system, I use a cyclone to keep chunks out of the blower, then it all gets discharged outside, no filters to mess with.
@jLjtremblay
@jLjtremblay 2 года назад
Very very interesting. I had no idea. Thanks so much!
@tomthumb5445
@tomthumb5445 3 года назад
I have been using an old pillow case for years, works even with drywall dust.
@angellas.1314
@angellas.1314 3 года назад
So you use the pillow case instead of a bag? Or instead of the filter?
@tomthumb5445
@tomthumb5445 3 года назад
@@angellas.1314 Instead of the filter. I use large elastic band to hold in place
@danielwilliams3332
@danielwilliams3332 2 года назад
This will not filter out fine particles. You can't see them.
@tomthumb5445
@tomthumb5445 2 года назад
@@danielwilliams3332 You are correct Daniel, but I do not need to worry about fine particles, it is good enough for what I do.
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