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Neverness to Everness is an upcoming gacha game by the creators of Tower of Fantasy. No Release date at the time of this video being uploaded we will know more information 09/2024. These are just my thoughts and constructive criticisms for the game because I NEVER want to see a game fail before it gets a chance to be the best it can be. So I will keep a close eye on the game and I hope it looks better down the line.
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@Pumpernickell
@Pumpernickell Месяц назад
Too be doomposting about a game that is in development is crazyyy
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Whatre you looking forward to from nte?
@Pumpernickell
@Pumpernickell Месяц назад
@@JordinKun it’s looks like a fun new take, they are already responding to feedback which is a good sign but to be doomposting before they even have a launch date is hella weird. Who knows it might crash and burn like tof but maybe they learned there lesson. How about we wait until people get there hands on it to doompost
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
@chronoshelux1 just to clarify just because I’m giving criticism doesn’t mean I’m “doom-posting”. I’m being realistic as the game that they’re showing off in the HOPES of getting feedback doesn’t look good. Especially when you compare it to their track record (TOF). If you’d like another TOF situation to happen then I guess it’s best for people with a voice (content creators) to just sit on their hands and roll the dice to see if it lives or dies. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Plus what is it that you like so far? Because I’m genuinely curious were there things people liked that I wasn’t a fan of. Did you like the cars the apartments?
@Pumpernickell
@Pumpernickell Месяц назад
One of the first lines you say is not criticism and straight doomposting, you’re title is doomposting nothing about it is criticism, the combat looking janky is a fair take which they can address but learn the difference between criticism and straight hate. For me the exploration looks cool and some of the characters they’ve shown since then look better. I’m not saying don’t give them valid criticism but it has to be valid and by your tone in the beginning it sounds the opposite, no one wants another tof that’s why I’ll wait until it comes out to come to my conclusion. Instead of doom and gloom before a release date.
@Zack-0906
@Zack-0906 Месяц назад
I mean, OK, this video is your opinion, that's cool. But: 1. ToF is not dead, a lot of people still play it, and Hotta gets a lot of money, that's why they can do NTE without any restriction and they said that they are gonna continue with the "ToF for 10 years" plan. 2. Does nobody check what is happening on September? Tokyo Game Show will take place on September, and Hotta Studio already announced to be in the event and they even said in the Q&A on NTE's X that they will have their first offline event on September. I mean, even if you don't know about Hotta being there, if you do some research and learn about the event you would be like: "OK, TGS is happening on September, so probably they are gonna show something there, let's wait". All and all, hopefully they see your video, because, even if there is a lot of us that disagree with you (not saying is the case, just that is a possibility), they have to take into account everything everyone says and see how they can satisfy all the players without changing a lot the idea they have for the game.
@Sebfyy
@Sebfyy Месяц назад
might just be a bit of hating here, he prob never even touch tof
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
When I search up tof player base it averages 2500 a day now you can lmk if that’s good in mmo terms because I’m not sure. Now the Tgs is news to me! Thank you for educating me on that! But in the same light I’m curious what about Tof keeps you playing till this day and what about nte is making you excited to play it long term.
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Do you still play tof? If you do what keeps you playing it?
@Zack-0906
@Zack-0906 Месяц назад
@@JordinKun I think you're searching for the Steam player base, but even if is just that, I don't have the numbers right now to show you, so I'll have to use the "Believe me, dude", which obviously is OK if you don't want to. And I keep playing ToF because I like MMOs, and because I fucking love the weapons and the combat, in my opinion, is the gacha with the best combat and with the best weapon variety out of all, (we'll literally have a guy with 3 swords in a couple of patches), and I can have my own custom character, that I can use all the time with whatever weapon I want, I don't have to use the skin of a character to use their powers, the game has a lot of tools to make the exploration really easy and fun, Hotta Studio gives us a lot of materials to pull in the banners, they are one of the best companies in that regard, and finally because I like the community.
@Zack-0906
@Zack-0906 Месяц назад
@@JordinKun Oh, sorry I didn't answer about what is making me excited about NTE to play it long term in my previous comment: I'm excited first and foremost because Hotta made me love them with ToF, so I'm excited about anything they release, but talking about the game itself, I really like the idea of the game and how it looks. But I think my hype comes from my love and trust towards Hotta Studio, because they made a game I fucking love and expect to play until I die or the game dies (Tower of Fantasy), and I know they can do it again but now with NTE
@iamcoconut0
@iamcoconut0 Месяц назад
NTE needs to watch this
@nethernox
@nethernox Месяц назад
So, I'm very new to your channel and I did initially feel a heavy amount of annoyance, but I let you cook, and I do kinda agree with some of the points you made (especially the car being all red, that looked like Disney's Cars.) Anyway, I'm keeping faith that Hotta will do better in future and improve in both NTE and ToF, I like watching companies improve and actually listening to their players because it's become a real problem for both the West and the East. Ngl tho, I had to put you at 2x speed cuz I had shit to do, it was a miracle I could even understand what you said, thank god for subtitles and me hyperfocusing.
@Reinx1
@Reinx1 Месяц назад
tbh considering what hoyo and kuro has put out and their overall content design philosophy , i probably wouldn't want to play an urban open world game from them, But considering how hotta's made content in tof and their design and content philosophy i have more confidence and interest in them with nte than i have for pretty much any other open world gacha. also fun fact basically everything in the gameplay trailer in NTE already exists in ToF in some form. also nice job showing free mounts in tof when talking about battle pass mounts. as for the wall run thing considering how tof handles it, it probably won't matter at all, and if they are gonna use it in an area, they'll just give it to you, as that's literally what they've done in tof, we literally have a zero gravity city area where things go upsidedown and up vertical walls. we also have roads that go in spiral loop de loops in some areas too. In each instance they just give u full access to wallrunning with no restrictions on those surfaces, can even drive ur car up them if u wanted to
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Why wouldn’t you want an open urban world game from them? Also that sounds cool for the zero G stuff in tof.
@Reinx1
@Reinx1 Месяц назад
​@@JordinKun generally the content and exploration design and intent. same with how they approach various game systems. Wuwa and genshin exploration flat out sucks. You pretty much only actually do it because they have to put a carrot on a stick being the forced oculi/casket bs and ofc having to bait you with primogems/asterites. end result is that if they didn't exist, you wouldn't bother in the first place, on top of the mint/echo picking ofc. In tof after initial 1.0 content and artificial islands they completely got rid of placing darkcrystals (premium currency) in chests/supply pods in all newer zones, the exploration incentive and overall design focus around them shifted from a forced need into a want. they instead moved all that stuff into other aspects of the game. no more running around opening 100-300 chests for enough currency for a 10 pull that will probably get u nothing of value. same time too I find the whole character skill upgrades and ascensions as well as overall progression in genshin/wuwa completely dumb, and if anything long term it even demotivates me from pulling entirely at some point, as i find the weeks of grind u end up doing before or usually after u pull them kinda silly and ridiculous all just so you can make them maybe usable on top of dealing with the awful artifact/echo rng system for gearing them on top. weird part here is that ToF doesn't do that, all u get from leveling up the characters/weapon u pulled for is just a bunch of small extra stats, ur free to scale the overworld as u wish, and some game modes will even just automatically level up all your weapons to max level while ur playing them, even if u didn't do it. so its more so just something u can do on the side for an extra 3-5% more stats and even then in a lot of cases it doesn't matter since game already gives it to you. basically the overall gameplay systems and philosophy in hotta's game makes everything more of a want not a forced arbitrary need, heck in the future they are planning to make a system where the gacha characters you pulled for will do all the exploration for you. another thing too unlike the other games ToF is more so heavily focused on weekly activities not daily so there isn't the stress to log in every day if u don't want/have to and instead sit down later in the week to do all the content when you have the time for it. these aspects that they've done is far far more in favor and respectful to the player. if we're gonna go by gacha system, genshin and wuwa's is complete trash compared to what they've done in tof as well. in terms of overall cost, in some cases getting a fully maxed out A6 unit in tof (7 copies total) ends up being cheaper than hitting hard pity to get 1 unit in genshin/wuwa (assuming u lost the 50/50) but yeah generally speaking most of the way they handled exploration interactions and stuff in Tof has more so been for a because you can and for fun, heck each unit in tof has like a massive amount of different attack combos and movesets that almost never get used and are just there because they can and for the fun of it. huge diff from the other ones that just give u a basic attack combo and then a skill and ultimate skill then calling it a day. For the multiplayer aspects if they make one, yeah genshin and wuwa coop is complete trash and just straight up awful in its execution, especially when other players take up ur own character slots to use. Also one more thing, the inferno rider echo in wuwa sucks, why does the thing only lasts 5 seconds on a 20 second cooldown, force me to put it as the main active echo on a character to use it for traversal, and thne to make it worse, why does it kill all of the momentum. like it can't be just me but I think its entirely stupid and counter productive for the echo to just turn and face the other direction for the last 2 seconds in its animation, slow down drastically until it comes to a stop.
@blvmenkrnz
@blvmenkrnz Месяц назад
I don't even know how to comment about it after all shit that I heard. Hope you are okay bro, peace
@DarleenSchool-ns9ri
@DarleenSchool-ns9ri Месяц назад
Fr, it's today I learnt everybody has different opinions, and some people are just wild
@bluefox9436
@bluefox9436 Месяц назад
I just want a decent anime GTA
@TenchiHawkwing
@TenchiHawkwing 26 дней назад
My biggest issue with it is something you didn't list and isn't really a failing of Hotta but if they don't clarify it I think a lot of people will be disappointed. I keep seeing people calling this game anime GTA or gacha GTA but it doesn't seem to be very much like GTA at all. You can drive a car around the city. That's where this comes from. I think if NTE took more from GTA like being able to occupy yourself with random stuff around the city the way you can do in a GTA game it would be dope as hell and honestly... if they just made GTA but then put a gacha on it and gave it something similar to Genshin combat I think they would actually have a winner but I suspect that instead we'll just have it be like every other gacha where you run out of content after playing for a few weeks then log on for dailies and are done in like 5-10min and are driven to play only by FOMO. I think Hotta needs to come out ASAP and tell people that it is NOT gacha GTA 'cause I bet it won't be.
@zemaralucious
@zemaralucious Месяц назад
Me preparing to fight the haters having no clue about the game
@taariqmoosa8200
@taariqmoosa8200 25 дней назад
I’d definitely try it out on release. I’m sure they’ll show us exactly what it is that we’ll be doing in this game in the next couple of months. Because it does look fun, however, it’s gonna need to do a bit more to get my attention off of WuWa & ZZZ a bit
@taisha7291
@taisha7291 Месяц назад
I have said it once and I'll say it again. They have always had potential to become a game developer but they always ALWAYS screw everything up. ToF was a great game and was filled with unique designs and combat, but all that was scratched because of various game problems. I would've really played up until now. And then I see this NTE game, and the first thing that I said was "wtf why are they still copying?". It's like this game is mocking me because I believed in their potential to create something new something thats not fcking patterned to mainstream gacha. In other words, I'm so disappointed. While I was watching all the gameplay and trailers of this game, I can help but just stare in disappointment. I guess that's goodbye to their ToF magic.
@plvto1
@plvto1 Месяц назад
watch people completely ignore the disclaimer and take the video the wrong way anyway
@Sophie4-9
@Sophie4-9 Месяц назад
Suckers gonna suck. Let them be excited for their anime game. Lets just hope they dont drop out after a week of playing w
@prestonleebenjamin
@prestonleebenjamin Месяц назад
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed how shallow and mid this game looks so far, was getting worried seeing the endless praise this game was getting... mind is blown at how people see a car and get ultra hyped when it's obvious you likely won't be able to do anything that make cars fun in GTA - this is a CN gacha game, there is a 0.00% chance it'll have anything that makes a GTA game a GTA game due to age restrictive content/censorship. Not saying it has no hope, but looking at who the developers are for this game I wouldn't get my hopes up.. Think you're absolutely right when you say the game has no identity. No amount of flashy cars and mid AI-generated anime waifus is going to save a game that doesn't even know what it wants to be.
@Shantaq
@Shantaq Месяц назад
Entertaining video. We will see if lessons were learned or not.
@AHIGO225
@AHIGO225 Месяц назад
Did you even read the dev note and faq ?
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
No
@Sebfyy
@Sebfyy Месяц назад
@@JordinKun we know
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
So it seems like you’re excited for the game what’s got you on the edge of your seat for it?
@jordanfn1793
@jordanfn1793 Месяц назад
@@JordinKun I'm edge cause it's not another breath of the wild anime game clone
@Sophie4-9
@Sophie4-9 Месяц назад
⁠@@jordanfn1793Nah did you not see the damn glider. It’s still a clone. They just added buildings and cars thats all
@JunxCKm
@JunxCKm Месяц назад
Jordin kun will be forgotton
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
I hope so 😞
@gachamanmuse
@gachamanmuse Месяц назад
It's true. I'd drop this game for PM. However, i can do a RWBY run with this game.
@letmegameyouastory
@letmegameyouastory Месяц назад
Yeah similar feelings here... for me biggest issue is char design. It's just boring and unattractive... and I really don't care about cars... especially in a gacha game. Still love the urban fantasy aspect.
@dane9598
@dane9598 9 дней назад
everything you say applies to wuthering waves in a way
@hoyobot-d1i
@hoyobot-d1i Месяц назад
This CC doesn't want to be forgotten 😂😂😂. Hate before release = more views good job 👍😚😉
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Buddy
@ritchellethomas
@ritchellethomas Месяц назад
Never keep your expectations high🤷‍♂️
@rickthatsky
@rickthatsky Месяц назад
I'm pretty skeptical about this game since it is going to be an urban open world game. These types of games are a very hard recipe to pull off and to my knowledge, even in the mainstream industry, only like 3 games were able to do it properly and everyone else failed. So it is going to be interesting to see how they will handle it.
@nahmeen95
@nahmeen95 Месяц назад
1:23 aaye shoutout Gaius! I didnt know ANYBODY else played dislyte
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
I love dislyte man the designs are top tier
@nahmeen95
@nahmeen95 Месяц назад
@@JordinKun character designs were literally the reason I downloaded the game. I saw Thor, Hades, and Lucas/Apollo and was sold
@FrankySoul
@FrankySoul Месяц назад
Damn 💀 People did not like this video. However, as someone who is looking forward to this game, you do make some valid points. I personally really like the graphics. It has a bit of a Genshin/Persona feel to me which I find super appealing. But the overall take away I got from this video is that NTE is going up against tough competition and they're really going to have to something that'll make it stand out more from the current competition. The Gacha market competition is really stiff. Genshin despite all of its criticisms and controversies is still holding strong for nearly 4 years. WuWa is not too terribly far behind Genshin and seems to be Hoyo's main competitor at the moment. Some of the designs do feel a bit generic in NTE (but I can still see the potential for them to create some dope characters) when compared to Genshin or WuWa. As for gliding, I dont mind it personally. But I would love it if they also had jetpacks like in ToF. I dont think gacha gating mechanics would be too bad in this game. But it would be nice if it wasn't gated like that you said. I don't think you're being too harsh and you recognize that the game is still very much in development so this all could change. Great video as always Jordin!
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Thank you 😭. Yeah I made jabs at the game but I made these points because it’s early in development and (I like to shit talk). I’d like for them to have all this feedback early on in development instead of the last minute! Because I don’t want it to release and everyone’s “hyped” just for a majority of the player base to leave when maybe they could’ve captivated people early on with just some slight tweaks.
@FrankySoul
@FrankySoul Месяц назад
@@JordinKun Not only that but a lot us probably play several gacha games (or just other games in general). Time is limited and precious so if they don't stick out, it could very well become a ToF situation. But the shit talk is too funny man 😂. Please bever change man!
@SighMyNameTaken
@SighMyNameTaken Месяц назад
Never before have i seen such an L Take. 1) Did you even personally play ToF? Most of what you described about the housing, cars etc was literally free or farmable. 2) Did you even play Genshin? Like FR did you actually play Genshin past 1.0, because your review smells of someone who stopped at Inazuma and thought "Yup this game is dead and when ToF comes out its gonna cook Genshin"...oh wait [Checks your RU-vid video catalogue] You did... 3) In both Genshin AND Tower of Fantasy all the features you are complaining about NTE not having are actually there. admittedly yes some are sold but no-one is complaining about that except you. - You need a Stamina character? Yelan may exiist but so is the 4* Sayu... hell and the FREE Lynette does a similar thing for F2P if you have neither. - ToF and genshin both have characters who climb/glide/move in alternative ways to the base way I don't see a gacha-gating as problem for changing up core gamplay mechanics. - Wild concept but maybe people actually like gliding? I don't see people giving WuWa shit for its gliding mechanics....I even saw someone glide across the entire map with Changli and Jinshi + glider without touching the ground once. 4) This is the SAME Dev as ToF, why the F wouldn't they put the features which people loved in ToF into this game? 5) Greedy and bad MMO-netcode aspects almost killed ToF not mechanics and characters. infact ToF is still alive [as much as we might hate to admit it] and is actively even funding the development of this game...whereas your beloved Project MUGEN...is sounding more DoA by the day Doomposting before the game is even in Beta is wild. Did you forget how disastrous WuWa Beta was? Keep calm, watch the Tokyo Games Show and wait for 2025 when the game actually comes out. I don't even have alot of faith in HOTTA myself but I'm calling it now. This video is going to age like milk
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
What are you expecting from this game?
@SighMyNameTaken
@SighMyNameTaken Месяц назад
@@JordinKun Surprisingly, nothing crazy. Like many people said before and in other places...GTA, 5 but anime or at VERY least, ToF but...not MMO and with a dash of ZZZ. if they do that they are absolutely golden. It might even coexist with ZZZ if they can pull that off. Personally, I actually liked ToF but hated the multiplayer aspect of it. Even more so this factor was compounded with insanely greedy powercreep and competitive events and subsequent rewards for rankings and team content lockouts due to it too. I do agree with your take on some of the character designs though but if ToF was anything to go on....we can probably run a custom char anyway and just use hero skills or teams. BTW: Yes. I did read your disclaimer, but the tone of your video and the choice of words negates the disclaimer as you don't present your arguments as opinion but rather facts. Just for example and to Quote: "There is no way any of you guys are excited" is a definitive statement, not an opinion. If you had worded alot of what you said as Opinion rather than an already established "Is"/"Will"/Will not" using definite terms, but rather used phrases such as "I believe", "In my opinion this will not", then your tone and intention would have been better interpreted. I am not saying you cant dislike NTE or HOTTA, but at least be objective or use a rational point of departure for your arguments rather than personal/emotional ones. Change your video tone and usage of "Definite vs Probable" language and I think you wont face such backlash again. Just my opinion. Take this as a disclaimer if you will.
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Haha I understand. I can see your new to my videos which is a learning experience for me indicating this a good sign of growth. I take this as nothing more than a learning experience 😄
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
I’m sure this will coexist with zzz as these two games despite both being in an urban environment attract two different niches (open world, linear). My main comparison is against project mugen. But we will see tgs is around the corner I’d like this to be a win for them instead of a Tof 2.0 situation.
@P20_18
@P20_18 Месяц назад
He das game ist sau geil
@whyiaskmyself1619
@whyiaskmyself1619 Месяц назад
Also another thing for me personally idk if I can play like another gacha game I already play 4
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
What 4 are you playing?
@whyiaskmyself1619
@whyiaskmyself1619 Месяц назад
@@JordinKun Genshin kinda,ZZZ,Hsr and wuwa
@Inaros.
@Inaros. Месяц назад
Krusty Krab Unfair
@Masfugo
@Masfugo Месяц назад
Classic Kuroshill behaviour smh smh
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Thank babe
@iamcoconut0
@iamcoconut0 Месяц назад
😂
@saritagupta6679
@saritagupta6679 21 день назад
I think the game can fail since its by the creators of tof and i have little to no hope from them they are greedy as hell
@DragonSpirit0758
@DragonSpirit0758 Месяц назад
Nte to ntred by mugen
@LucasDmitri
@LucasDmitri Месяц назад
WTF is this video lol. They just put a trailer to hype people up for the future, and there are already people talking shit about things that they already said they would take into consideration and probably change. What’s the point of trying to assume things like this from a game that didn’t even get a beta test? Like talking about the motorcycle part and teleporting to another world. They said they cut out some loading screens, so it could be that, could be part of the main story, could be anything, and you’re already assuming things without any certainty? Let’s be honest, you just want to talk shit about something and chose this game for some reason.
@Bluegirl1777
@Bluegirl1777 Месяц назад
NTR ass name lol
@shemdellashemygd29
@shemdellashemygd29 14 дней назад
Dont care about project. No news so dont care. Imagine complaining about something thats already in the game. Womp womp stop complaining
@JordinKun
@JordinKun 14 дней назад
Thanks for the comment
@shemdellashemygd29
@shemdellashemygd29 14 дней назад
Your going on like they aren't going to reveal more stuff. Womp womp. Nothing wrong with the butler. Clearly a you problem. Delusional
@junorii
@junorii Месяц назад
Their designs actually sucks ass, satire or not they're terrible bro🙏and the open world doesn't match the characters style too it looks like gta with modded anime girl models, you're so based for pointing em
@Okada一IZŌ
@Okada一IZŌ Месяц назад
feel free to talk shit if the game failed after release but not now when its in development, thats childish
@mybeaniebooz9601
@mybeaniebooz9601 Месяц назад
Oh my god thank you, ive had this in the back of my mind the whole time. I couldn't put my finger on why something felt off about the game. The character designs feel utterly generic and forgettable. People said the same thing about wuwa, but i disagree, a minimalist character design is different from a generic one. Wuwa has its own unique style different from other gacha games, with more more detailed faced are pointed nose, but NTE designs look like they were randomly generated in character dress-up game. The designs dont say anything about the personality of the characters, nor do they seem to have any color harmony The animations look jank as hell too I dont wanna hate on this game as i know it's unfinished, but this game already looks a lot like project mugen. What would be the insentive to play this over the other?
@JordinKun
@JordinKun Месяц назад
Even then project mugens characters seem like they have personality to them with their designs. Like they’re very marketable.
@mybeaniebooz9601
@mybeaniebooz9601 Месяц назад
@@JordinKun absolutely
@saritagupta6679
@saritagupta6679 21 день назад
I think the game can fail since its by the creators of tof and i have little to no hope from them they are greedy as hell
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