NEW 2019 PENN Spinfisher VI Just how water resistant is it. 1hr submersion and autopsy (SHOCKING) 

And Rew based on what? The only thing that can suggest that is the fact they come of an assembly line in China giving way to inconsistencies. My own personal experience with Penn has yet to leave me with an issue

And Rew but they still catch fish right? Only until recently, you got what you pay for. But look at the BG by daiwa. The reel is 100 bucks and it performs like a 300 dollar reel. The tech in reels is getting cheaper to put in bargin priced reels lately. It's no shock that penn is making really good stuff lately, but youre seeing that in their 200+ dollar reels. Not super cheap, but not shimano prices either. But that being said, I have a penn clash 6000 that caught me 27 blackfins from 6 to 24 pounds over three jigging trips. Reel still works fine. Caught a 120 pound lemon shark on a 6500 Spinfisher V, landed it and the reel still worked fine.

And Rew my point is they started getting better again with the spinfisher v and the torque around 2012. When pure fishing bought them, they kept getting better year after year. Kind of hard for me to say they've gotten better only recently. I am aware several were coming of the line defective, but I've seen reels of all prices by all manufacturers faiI. But I caught fish on trips to the same extent everyone around me was when they were using shimanos, daiwas etc., and without issue.

I ain’t no scientist but black smegma is not good.

LMAO

Nice review of it yourself Bomber. Too bad about the quiet clicker, I still might pick one up if they go on sale.

elite af

@@qwiswaz9774 elite af man

I won`t give up your Shimano or Daiwa reels...Just add Penn in as part of your arsenal like I did...Having multiple reels is like having the right tools for different jobs.

Stick with Daiwa or Shimano. They'll have an answer for this reel.

True, but I'm talking about a specific slot for a med sized surf reel

be interesting to see what they come up with, esp daiwa...they have no sealed anything in that price range!

This is why competition is good. Other manufacturers will have an answer for this. You really think Shimano and Daiwa want cheap china made crap like Penn to have a leg up on them?

Thanks!! Glad you find it informative..........The simple answer.....it was too tight a fit :) but at the same time...it didn't matter the seal is on the gear axle...If it were a daiwa saltist or back bay or fuego ballistic lt....it would have been compromised

Tackle Advisors Thnx for ur quick answer , please do keep these vids comming ,so many friends of mine n me consider ur channel one of the best there is , it's the way u tackle every bit in ur hand that makes ur vids so interresting .

It sounds funny....but the setup I built (and this was the first time using it) It's soooooo bright.....to my eyes it seems dark..and some things I can't see with my naked eye. ((I filmed it using a polorized lens to take away some of the glare before i get it 100% dialed in.......You couldn't see my facial expression when I squirted the water straight intot the clutch sleeve.......I felt like punching myself......lol

haha, great informative channel though, i guess we are all geeks, but you provide a lot of useful ,objective substance.

Bro is the 4500 VI heavy reel not light in wright ??..or it u can use it in different filelds not only surfing or casting....pls tell me what is ur experince with this reel cause ill buy it this week 😊

@@morganahmed6245 I have the Penn Bailess 4500 reel it's not a bad reel and I bought it over the counter in 2018 @ my local bait & tackle store. The weak point is I wish the reel was a little bit bigger. It's not pervious to the elements and sand got caught up underneath of the rotor head it messed up the gearing. I changed the gears myself and it works okay now. As far as value & weight it's about the same as the Daiwa BG 4000, and the 4500 VI is a slightly smaller reel and as far as being water proof they're about the same, but the Penn is not as smooth as the Daiwa BG. The thing is every Penn reel I have ever bought on line that looked like a bargain wound up being a lemon where the reel that I bought what seemed to be a factory second and the gears weren't smooth and I replaced gears myself to make them work right. Buying a reel on line that might look like a bargain and may wind up being a lemon and a real hassle to repair. I recently purchased a NIB older model Penn Clash on sale this past February over the counter and it's smooth. My advice to you is not to buy a reel on line. When you go to your tackle store you can hold the reel in your hand and feel how the gearing feels when you crank it. When you see a reel for sale on eBay and read the posting by the seller that says New & Refurbished means he's selling refurbished factory seconds & returns for what you'd think is a bargain, but they're defective ! And you'll see the guy selling the same reels that aren't refurbished for the regular price. Beware, your best bet is even if you pay the regular price over the counter at least you know what you're getting on the spot and won't be disappointed. Be Well - Peace.

@@franktheo2055 thank u very much brother for ur reply...im thinking to get the Daiwa back bay LT 4000 as i heared this reel is better than penn 4500 VI but im afraid that the DAIWA BACK BAY will break fast when u fight big fish 😔😔

@@morganahmed6245 The Daiwa Saltist Back Bay is a much better choice with a magsealed pinion to protect the ball baring under the rotor. It's a smoother reel and made with better quality parts. I own the BG 4000 & 4500 and though they're less expensive than most reels but you can't bet Daiwa for craftsmen & quality for the price. This link shows you a full breakdown of the BG 4000 done by Tackle Advisors. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qSm551v_gBc.html. He also dose the breakdown of the Daiwa Saltist on RU-vid as well.

@@franktheo2055 so you recommend the Daiwa Back Bay 4000 over the Penn spinfisher VI ???cause the most important for me is it should he tough and hold on the big fight with huge fish and the smoothness is the most important thing as well.......cause i sae many reviews saying that the BACK BAY doesnot last for long time and it breaks fast after fights with big fish in the salt water

The graphite rotor in the smaller sizes takes a bit of weight out of the rotor but the paint sucks. The gearing is pretty much the same on larger sizes. The drag on te slammer is more capable at higher pressures but the spinfisher can get much looser (slammer drag's lighters setting is around 2lbs where the spinfish is ounces) I'd go Spinfisher in smaller sizes slammer in larger I like the eva knob on the slammer/ clash over the T knob on this/ battle 2

@@TackleAdvisors Thank you! Respect your knowledge and input on the fishing industry.

6500 and up will have

Hey man. Honestly any of them would be a good choice. Though I think the 6k gosa is gonna be the most enjoyable to fish

Tackle Advisors nice thanks a lot! God bless!

Tackle Advisors but do you think spinfisher vi I ill be the best bang for my buck? Since I’m just a weekend warrior and its not every week probably 25 trips a year or less.

I think it's a great reel for the money. But the gosa is sealed to a higher level. Keeping the elements out equals longevity. It's an all round better reel. The spheros is the same reel minus dual drag stack and different bail wire.

Tackle Advisors thank you so much!

I think us release is in November according to their publications

OK awesome, seeing US is a better market and where they are from, I doubt we'll get it before you guys. Good video thanks again.

The Slammer 3 is my next reel to cover me for 65 lb braid....I`ve been hearing most people who have one say it`s an awesome reel!...I have both Spinfishers and BGs and love them both...I didn`t however have very good luck with the Penn Battle 2...The gears stripped within a couple of years but in all fairness I also dropped this reel a few times in saltwater which is a big mistake...I was however able to get parts and it was reasonable.

MrGb4ever Get a Slammer 3 and you won't regret it. If your a Penn guy a slammer 3 is THE reel. If your a Shimano guy the Saragosa is THE reel. These reels give you a huge bang for your buck!

Thanks for the feedback Bro!...I use Penn, Daiwa and Shimano but I`m not faithful to one company...I buy their equipment only if I feel I`m getting quality for a reasonable price but I`m also open to other companies as well if they are making quality equipment...And you`re right, the Saragosa is a good reel and reasonably priced!...Thanks again!

And I really like the gosa's cranking power!

Aleksandar Jurisic Lol 😂

It would slip...

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Better value for what you get. But time will tell if it performs better. Gosa has a better drag stack. The old spin fisher v had a seemingly better drag design too. Gosa has a better AR clutch seal. And is a tad smoother. Well... Because shimano. But the larger spinfisher gets a metal rotor and brass main gearing.... Which definitely could put it at Gosa sustainability... But again... I don't have the time on it yet to say for sure

Added seal at the anti reverse one off switch. Worm gear oscillation with very slow oscillation identical to the ultegra. I don't know about the 4500 but the 6500 I have has brass gears. (standard spinfisher gets brass at 6500 as well). Metal rotor. It's really the only rugged surf long cast reel I've seen

@@TackleAdvisors thank you for the prompt reply. I hope the bottom face of the pinion does not rub against the pinion support.

can someone pls answer this question

I'm from New Zealand and our westcoast, open sand, surf fishing for dimersals is best done by getting out on a distant sand bar and hiffing 5-6oz of lead on a 13-15' rod a long way with deadbait. So a longcast reel that can truely take a dunk on the way out to the sandbar is the thing everyone wants but no-one can really find... ...is it finally here?

Thanks Michael......it's a bit tricky....Mine lacked the hydrophobic coating found on this one.. I asked penn what was up and they said it should be there but it's likely missing due to it being pre production. Assuming it's supposed to be there.....The axle seals, perimeter seals and sealed bearings are the same throughout...the differnce is the shape of the top pinion bearing retainer cover......with a fancy perimeter seal up top there.....and the ani revers on off switch uses a flat rubber seal. So it's the most sealed LC reel we have seen stateside....It is a worm gear and lays line very nicely. It's more sealed than any shimano LC reel outside the Fliegen (which i'm not 100% sure on how they do it) But all that said.....all the other LC reels are carp reels....this is very obviously NOT..it's heavy and very overbuilt. No wirey handles or bails...thick main shaft and heavy gauge guts and internal support rods.....Great reel actually. Quite surprised

Tackle Advisors SOLD! Hahaha, many thanks for that run-down. The last spinfisher was the most watertight LC I know of (outside of a handful of top end JDM reels) and to see the improvement in this new generation is awesome, hopefully it's available here for our summer. Cheers!

I prefer to be a pennocrat than a democrat, LOL!

Yes. I like everything about it. Great line lay. Very smooth. Great drag. Only thing I don't like is the handle knob. But it's not the end of the world

i heard you were able to rub the finish off with some rubbing alcohol??? is that right?@@TackleAdvisors

@@NasalObstruction Yeah. Not the end of the world. But odd. The metanium dc's dc brake coating had the same effect. But it peeled back and hit the spool causing issues. Had to melt it until smooth again lol. Only other time alcohol damaged paint in my experience. (not saying there aren't any others that it would. Just none i came across.

also worth mentioning that it's line lay is more even in appearance than the saragossa's. Fished a friends 6k last night and we compared them. (for what that's worth

@@TackleAdvisors is saragosa shimano 5000 better than the spinfisher VI 4500 ??

Agree, please Scoob

Throw a dart is the best I got. Bait runners are proven. The ssvi is proving to be a great reel. I like what I see out of the ssvi with my time on it so far.

Just haven't gotten around to them in all honesty. Haven't used many of their reels other than one recently and not for much time.. Definitely not enough to form an opinion other than it's just a reel lol

Tackle Advisors if it wasn’t for all this and that social media we’d still just be looking at the top 3 brands shimano penn diawa

And depending on the brick and depending on the penn reel..it's smoother and manages line better :)

If you take your time with the brick, you can get perfect line lay. Not so with the Penn.

unionse7en lolol

honestly i thought the looks were Penn's only strenght

Gunnar Reeves i will never choose penn over Shimano . I use daiwa over anything but sometimes Shimano

looks good but is a bit rickety....a tiny bit less slop.....and it would be good...a little slop is good for a reel tthat is going to see abuse. This has a bit much

@@TackleAdvisors was this test been done with salt or fresh water,?

350 grams

China.

I'd go Spinfisher. And I think you can buy the clash handle assembly if you want a round knob. I haven't fished the clash for more than 5 minutes. It was a nice upgrade to the battle 2 when it came out. But so was the spinfisher.....The clash was a battle 2 with upgrades....teh spinfisher vi is an upgrade to both imho

@@TackleAdvisors Thank you sir!

www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/735842-2019-penn-spinfisher-vi-1-hour-submersion-test-resultsbecausewhy-not/ Penn outline the differences in the comments here TLDR the seals are the same but the slammer 3 is made out of better quality pieces and has a different drag, aswell as some other benefits

Exactly!...As a matter of fact, it`s the same drag system as the Torque.

Hey bud...Thanks for the kind words!!! Hope all is well!!

Tackle Advisors anytime! I am well despite all of the fires 🔥 out here! California always seems to have something going on! Hope all is well with you, looking forward to the Tatula!

no. Gosa does it better at the ar clutch....

oooof........if left untreated for a bit...it'll likely get crunchy...if not seizy..but wait..you caught the rod you lost!!!!!!! EPIC

@@TackleAdvisors sadly i did not catch it.. i watched it slowly float off towards the sea... and by now i think its been like 2 weeks.. u think it is a rust ball now?

@@jakelencher817 Ahhh....gotcha....well...i'd say it's on it's way :(

@@TackleAdvisors hah even if i did get it the bail might be destroyed, as it fell down the jetty it did a couple bounces and scrapes, and for a second i considered jumping in but i wasnt gonna get killed against those rocks just to get an expensive rod. i also took a cheap shakespear reel that i started off with and i put a drill on the handle and made it go speedy.

Fresh

Fresh......Though correct me if i'm wrong. Salinity wouldn't effect it's ability to bypass the seals. Which was what I was trying to figure out. FW would just need to be blown out and air dried...Salt would need a complete tear down, strip and full lube job...Not worth the time and effort for a simple quasi silly room temp dunk test.

I was told it is the same as the slammer.....I even asked if there was an adhesive or something..they said nope....But it's important to mention they are pre production models.....the long cast version they sent is missing the hydrophobic coating entirely (and when i asked they said it will be there....) I noticed on another teardown by a penn shill...he didn't take the pinion out on his either which i immediately called out but didn't get a reply ((he hates me because I call him on his shillyness))

thanks Nick ! I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about , lmao. on the 4500 the main gear is aluminum , right ? what is the oscillation gear made from , cast aluminum or zinc ?

The 5500 on down is alu....the osc gear is in fact zinc....on the 4500 live liner it's brass which is weird.

I knew it , lol..I used to get on that forum a little bit. bridgetender is my username. he needs to change his name to "the self ordained minister" : p

Always good to see a fellow SOLer here. I think he needs to go fishing......for something other than a once a decade tuna charter. Ya know he said he caught a bunch of yellowfin on a torque one...even posted pics of the fish......well the captain of the boat posted them pics the day after the charter on his site (caught on stellas).....and the torque wasn't even on the market for 2 or 3 years. And he injured himself palming th espool boatside when it made a run..lol

certate hd ? some cheap prices on em since they didn't sell well in japan and some jdm distribution found it's way here and was allowed to be sold cheaply. The exsence is japan but small. Twinpower sw? can't remember of hand. But that's it really I think

Thanks!

Wuzzup Mr Buggums! I'll tell ya what brother.....time flies! I have tons on the bench...(and it's a new bench I just built specific for this stuff) I have a Kastking, a fancy new shimano and abu on the bench in various stages of undress right now...plus all the other new penns spinfishers. In addition to about a dozen other things i'm working or re working on. This penn thing was just simple....as it didn't require hundreds of pounds of fish to do ahead of a full review. But I think the next reel vid will be the Bantam MGL and dirt cheap hooks that are are par with owners.

Tackle Advisors awesome bro can’t wait to see it 👍

Missed your reel reviews too. Bantam MGL, JDM Daiwa Catalina TW (baitcaster) and the new Tranx 200 are very high on my shortlist for the next reel. Happy to see you reviewing the Bantam!

Big difference between saltwater and freshwater intrusion.

😂 for real

Do you need a metal rotor and an obscene amount of drag? Aside from that...in smaller sizes you only lose out on the brass gear (which is a helluva gear) But for the money....Spinfisher..... I go into the differences here www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/topic/735842-2019-penn-spinfisher-vi-1-hour-submersion-testbecausewhy-not/

james loerzel i have no idea about regular spinfisher aside from spinfisher 7500lc but slammer 3 is awsome by all means , stronger gears and better seals .

It also has the same drag system as the Torque!

Hello, I have a new never used 14 year old shimano spirex rd2000 would you like to do a review on it. I can ship it but would want it back? lol

Every single thing is greatly improved....Better gear materials, line lay looks better...line management is much better. Seals seals and more seals backed by sealed ball bearings. better spool support ONly thing that could be a down grade is a ball bearing line roller....sometimes a bushing is better....as it won't corrode.....but that's it. better finish.....I have it sitting next to a battle 2 4500 gonna do a side by side tear down

It's a slammer 3 with a graphite rotor alu main gear and zinc oscillation gear and top only drag stack with a stainless steel main shaft. IN larger sizes it's even closer to the slamer

VI. It incorporates tech from higher end penn reels like the slammer III

Rob Lucas alright thanks I was just wondering cause the v has the slammer drag

Zarek Cruz yeah the spinfisher series all together is real nice, even the older ones. V and VI are both really sweet. My friend has the V 6500 and I have the VI 6500 bailess. Both are great under harsh conditions.

they make inbetween sizes and capacities....down to a 2500 size

Use and conditions while using?

Tackle Advisors kayak fishing in saltwater. Used for catching bait on sabiki rigs and throwing lures for striped bass..

Line lay and line management when spooled tightly.. Is great as is the line management. Spooled loosely using the Berkley spooling station was awful

their bad i’ve had them