I've just purchased the R model, I've purchased the seat cowl as an extra ,it looks great ,I agree that it was down to preferance as I don't do track days ,I have the silver ice colour and in the sunshine the matalic flake certainly shines ,this is my first Triumph I've always had Suzuki in the past but this Street Triple is an amazing bike👍
For me, since I do have the obligatory 1.5h highway run before hitting some fun twisty roads, the fact that the cruise control is only available on the RS was also an important factor. That and the yellow paint of course :)
It seems like the RS is worth the extra money. ( seat cowl, belly pan, LCD display, sport tires, Ohlins shock, better brakes, 10 more horse power, 2 pounds lighter, and allot nicer color. Im just not into the grey color. and the yellow and red are really nice. I test road the RS and really liked it. one of the nicest sounding stock bikes I have ever ridden. and I feel at home sitting on it. unfortunately where I live the price is allot more than most other places. the only negative is that its a naked bike and I was getting hammered by the wind when riding it. as far as how the two compare. I like a tachometer that looks more like a real tach. so I don't like the look of the tach on the RS. and I like the lower seat on the R and the softer suspension. but I think I would still have to buy the RS.
I agree, I’d go for the RS - on the strength of the paint scheme, better brakes and bar end mirrors. Lovely looking bikes. IPhone works a treat as well 👍
It's not just the callipers that are different. The master cylinders are axial on the R and radial on the RS. The m\c tends to make a big difference, anyone that's fitted an upgraded\aftermarket one will know what I mean. Great comparison, agree on the red colour it looks great out in the wild.
There's no doubt the R has to be one of the best value bikes out there... but tbf the extra money for the Rs is definitely worth it considering all the multiple upgrades... Both Brilliant bikes, probably just comes down to how much you want to spend!.. Picked up my Carnival Red RS yesterday and absolutely loved the first 100miles... what a bike!.. Well done Triumph!!..🙏❤
In theory the R would suit my riding best but the colours would probably sway me to look at other bikes instead. I agree with you and miss the brighter colours triumph used to do. If the offered other colour options, even for a couple of hundred quid extra, would be a good move.
Extremely well done review and comparison. Hope you are fortunate enough to do this type of thing again. IPhone was excellent. You’ve got this RU-vid concept down perfectly for folks that just LOVE all kinds of bikes and experiences. Thanks for all you do, you are quite the gentleman!! 👍
I have ridden Both Bikes extensively, and I really noticed how planted the RS was at high speed. This was! At higher speeds the 'R' felt loose and a little scrawly on high speed bends on the edge of the Tyre. I blamed the cheaper Tyres, but I believe it to be a combination between Tyres and Shocks. An average commuter wouldn't care or shouldn't care, however a sporty rider will notice this quickly! The iphone footage was really Good mate. you should consider a gimble for your iphone to make it easier for yourself! Thanks Bro
Reviews and wind up in garage great as always & IPhone gives a natural feel but your editing is always excellent which helps too. Love the orange on the RS. I currently have a z400 in similar colour and I would choose RS for that reason as well as mirrors.
iPhone works a treat! As an owner of a MY17 765 R.. I feel the full function TFT (no longer on R) is great. Easy to read, clear. Your review of the first gen 765 R was a key reason I took one for a blast (and promptly bought it when I returned to the dealership). Love it! Thanks for the tip! Also, loving the classic bike reviews.
Good review Andy! IPhone looked and sounded OK to me. I too prefer the colours on the RS and would have liked one a few years ago LOL keep doing what your doing!
Definitely works well with the iPhone Andy👍Thanks for the additional insight, I'd love either of these but I find it odd that cruise control is an option for the track focused RS but not for the road focused R, I'd like to see more bikes with cruise now there's so many road's with average speed camera's!
Much awaited for video Mr Flyer, and not dissapointed. 2 great looking bikes. BUT.....the only things I would change on the R, for my sort of riding would be the colour schemes, and the rear view mirrors, to bar end ones. But as you say, neither would look out of place on the roads.
Agree 100% that most will go for the RS solely for the better colours & bling whether they need it or not. I have just bought the last moto2 limited edition available here in Melbourne, Australia after finding out it was available after an order was cancelled. My head tells me it will be a good investment on top of being such a fantastic bike
I've just purchased an R as I don't do track days. The red and yellow are an extra £200 making the difference £1900. Although I did opt for the belly pan at £143 plus fitting and a fly screen and visor bringing the total to approximately £10,000. For the road the R is absolutely brilliant. The white in the R is also an extra £200.
Totally agree Mr flyer, however I love the white and collected my R last weekend. I added the belly pan, a tail tidy and bizarrely it's got the beautifully stitched seat that comes on the RS. Naturally I didn't complain lol. I'm loving it and think it looks great. Vid quality was excellent IMO. Looking forward to you picking up your RS 👍👍
As to the bike comparison, thanks for that. It would be great if you could answer the rear shock difference by taking the bike to a suspension specialist or even having a tinkering with it yourself to see if it could be made similar to the R. That would make for great content as everyone else is saying they’re different but nobody has tried to address the issue.
Agree and this is the one thing missing from all reviews. If the Ohlins was set up for road use, is it comparable, or better than the R suspension? I would imagine so, but…
Great comparison, as usual. You are the person whose judgement I turn to, as I think I ride in a very similar way. Re the iPhone, I thought if anything it was a little sharper but I didn’t have a problem with the previous GoPro images.
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I pretty much agree with all you said here. Personally the R is more than enough for me (Did I mention I own a '21 R? lol) and although the RS in yellow is most beautiful If I was buying today I'd go for the white R. Keep on rocking it !
Great summary, my wife is a sucker for red and we pick hers up next week! Now if they had a Caspian or Lucerne blue in the range we’d have a pair in the garage…
Great info as always! Lack of availability of cruise control on the R is a big deal for me-- enough for me to get the RS even though I'd rather have the R otherwise since I street ride only.
@@TheMissendenFlyer To be honest, I’m not all that picky as a viewer. However, the iPhone was a bit unsteady at times but not bothersome at all while the GoPro was steady with the bubble effect. Im not a fan of the bubble effect but deal with it. If I had to choose while looking closely at bikes, the iPhone wins without the bubble effect. It was surprisingly well done. Don’t lose sleep over it. You have great content. Have you tried that 360 degree camera?
Great video as always, I bought a Street Triple R today, went for a white one as the grey too dull... Have to agree they should do more colours, however the deal I got was really good so couldn't justify waiting until August for red, or October for yellow RS).... Will be interesting to see how different the bike is to my current 2016 675
Andy..Thanks for the comparison. Footage was fine....camera in HD takes years off you 😉 Crucially this may save you some time when filming ...👍 Like yiou I dont clain to be a riding god....I appreciate your humble & candid words in respect of "your" road riding of both bikes. Cheers
Decent & helpful vid TMF. Firstly the iphone looked great / better for the garage footage imo. As for the bikes, it's heart vs head stuff I guess. If you're not going on track then the R is the one to go for but they'd always be a little bit of you saying....but the RS.... It also looks absolutely stunning compared to the somewhat drab R. Plus if you were so inclined, after you chuck on the seat cowl, bellypan & barrend mirrors etc, there's not that much in it, especially if you had it on finance.
I personally enjoyed more this footage. It has more light, and better definition of imaging details, I think. Don’t know if the change affects the sound but it was clearly too👌🏻
Great review on 2 great bikes, not quite sure what the price difference is, but being as tight as two coats of paint cost would be the decider for me . Vid quality seemed really good especially up close. keep em coming
Hi Andy, enjoyed the comparison video, also I think the I phone footage was very good as is the Go pro, so I would say whatever is most convenient for you. Thank you.
@@dean-does-stuff-81I think I do! I started riding road bikes in the 1991 and raced in the early 2000s, but have been without 2-wheels for nearly 20 years. Just bought a new bike and I'm loving it all over again!
Camera angle good, I had noticed the fish bowl effect before, but this when looking at the bikes was much better. Loving Triumph bikes right now, excellent. On another note: Nearly a month ago now I had a RTC on my push bike taking a 'quiet' back road to avoid all the summer holiday traffic down here in Penwith Cornwall area, as a result my Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro will not be ridden now for a good few months (missing out on all this nice weather too!). I gained speed to 28mph down hill and went round a back lane corner only to find a land rover and campervan stationary trying to pass each other, I had to ram (est. 25mph) between them. Multiple injuries including cut and black right eye (face planted the road helmet on), grazed knee, hip, sprained left elbow and wrist and finally broken right non-displaced proximal humerus and displaced distal clavicle fracture. Pain pain pain! Now trying to move after nearly a month. I can't drive ride for a few months more or lift anything. Aim of cycling was to build up my fitness having gone through a right lung pulmonary embolism last September, again didn't ride much as on blood thinners back then. 14 years ago broke five ribs on my right side smashing my right shoulder for the first time. So, my point being, thank you for providing some excellent vids to help my mental state and get me through my issues and pain. Whilst I may not ever ride a push bike ever again on the roads at 55 years young I've stopped short of selling my Triumph and look forward to September when I hope to have built my strength back up again, but noted your air vest protection vid, perhaps I may invest in the "Alpinestars Tech-Air 5 Airbag vest" to stop further bad trauma to my right should\arm ibs. Fingers crossed my recovery will go smoothly, but only able to lift my shoulder an inch or so for now:-(
Think the "R" would be more than enough for me. I dont think id fancy a morning commute on the "RS" with those tyres on it either. They look like old racing cut slicks! Shame the colours on the R arent better tho! Great vid!
I have an RS from 2020 and I suppose I had similar concerns. I’m not a fast rider and I don’t do track days but I still bought the RS. 3 and a half years on, I bought the bike outright 6 months ago because it’s so good and I intend to keep it. I set the suspension to it’s comfort setting and it’s not harsh at all. The tyres are basically road legal racing tyres but they work around town just fine… I suppose the only downside of them is I wore them both out in just over 5000 miles and they were pretty expensive for a new pair so that would be something to consider if you do a lot of miles. All that said, if I was to buy one of the new bikes I would buy the RS (even though the R would be good enough)
Video quality and sound are both excellent. I bought an R last year in matt black, and love the finish. Also, it has a nice analogue tacho, which I far prefer to a tft display.
Thank you David - I thought it looked a bit soft, but generally the perspective and colour was good. Wondering whether I should take the plunge and by one of those mirrorless Sony alphas for in garage stuff (+”Bike News”)….but not sure I can do with the hassle of buying new lenses…not to mention the ££££
I have ridden both and although I have no intention of doing track days the list of upgrades and more planted feel with the steeper rake make it a no brainer for me plus that lovely cosmic yellow well worth the extra money, there's not a wrong decision though as they are both amazing bikes. Cheers Andy.
Great review, as always! Both bikes look like winners to me. But one thing that seems to stand out to me more than on other bikes (or maybe I've just not payed enough attention) is that cable running along the outside of the front exhaust. I assume it's the clutch, but it just looks more exposed for some reason, like it could get snagged on something. Again, I'm probably just not that mechanically knowledgable, and this is likely a non-issue. Looking forward to your next video.
Yeah, if the extra cash wasn’t a major issue, I’d say the better brakes & additional color options would probably make the RS my choice. I would be perfectly content with either though! Edit: Just wanted to say that the iPhone worked great. I’ve never complained, but have noticed (not just on your videos) that the GoPros tend not to work that well for bike walk arounds.
Definitely getting the RS when you factor in seat cowl belly pan better brakes colour scheme and bar-ends its a no-brainer because we all add they extras anyway Great video as usual missenden keep it up Lad
Same bike (Cosmic Yellow RS) and love it, just replaced the exhaust and now it sounds as good as it looks. Try set the go-pro mode to linear to remove the fish eye effect.
Definitely seems a clearer picture on the I phone 📱 Andy. Just on another note when you do these garage reviews do you find it a pain having to empty your garage first, you could almost do with have a separate place/set up to be able to do it. Great video as always 👍
Thanks for another informative video. I have just completed running-in on my white R and am thrilled with it. My only mod will be span-adjustable levers - the R comes with one for the brake only whereas it looks like the RS has both?
Both great bikes, pick a colour you like and enjoy. As far as I'm aware, the geometry change is a result of the the rear end being raised ~10mm (with a spacer maybe?) hence changing the angle of the forks (according to Stuart Wood at the '23 launch presentation). Not sure whether the RS rear suspension could be set up as per the R (by removal of spacer if this exists...) for shorter riders that use the new RS on the road and don't need the faster turn in that is achieved by raising the rear end. I say this as I have ridden plenty of road miles on a '21 765RS and it is very responsive from a handling perspective, I wouldn't want quicker turn in for the road but appreciate it might be better when used on the track as it would also improve cornering ground clearance slightly. My previous point of reference was a '16 675R which was a great bike (my first Street Triple) - comparing the two, the most noticeable differences are: lighter throttle on 765RS(electronic throttle), lighter clutch, significantly more power from mid range and up, more compliant suspension, very good quickshifter and autoblipper. The only downgrade (in my opinion) is the configuration of the TFT which seems a little fussy and difficult to read (other than speed and gear position) when compared to the old 675R or indeed the '17/'18 TFTs fitted to the 765 R and RS's. The I phone video seemed fine to me - love the content and presentation as always😉👍👍
Dribble ! I did get a test ride on the '23 R version recently. Haven't tried the RS yet. As expected, I loved it. Yes, the metallic orangey-yellow on the RS looks lovely. Red would also be fine. Silver or Grey don't do it for me (camouflaged), and white can be a bit bland. That would be the only part that would swing me towards the RS. Bar ends mirrors, I'd need to add them to the "R". They, apart from looking better, do give me a much better rear view. Less watching of my elbows ! ( I've had them on a striple, a speedie 1050, and they're on my speed twin ) I'm sure, no cruise control on either. I used that quite a bit on my speedie 1050. I miss it. Very useful for 40 MPH limits with cameras. This should really be on the RS. I can see the blanked out place where it was on the pretty much identical plastic switch gear that was on my speedie 1050 ! The smaller fuel tank capacity on the '23 striples would annoy me a little bit as compared to the tank it replaced. Maybe I should get a "pre loved" striple, in red ! Finally I'm trying to resist spending a lot of money, we'll have to see how that goes . Maybe I just need to get regular test rides :-)
The R would be my choice. With bar-ends and toasty grips. And I prefer the subtlety of the silver with the flake through it. Also, give me the sensible tyres. 👌
Having bought a 2017 Street Triple RS, I would love to update to the newer more aggressive design (especially in that yellow). But it will mean an increase in seat height of 14mm (I can just about flat-foot it on my current bike). But something to note about Triumph genuine accessories - buy them when you get the bike! I bought some accessories at the beginning with the hopes of buying others later but Triumph stopped production a few years later.
I ended up with the RS as my first A cat bike went from a benelli leonchino 125cc, my god this 765 rs is a monster, i'm only 5 ft 4 as well, and the lighting i didnt know that you could switch both DRL lights on! thanks
If i was going to buy one, i really don`t see the point in paying the extra for the RS when the R will do everything i want. Yes i prefer the colour of the RS, yes i like the belly pan and seat cowl, but they are extra`s you could haggle with when buying. I`ve absolutely no interest whatsoever in doing trackdays, so there`s no point in buying the RS. Great summary Andy, thanks for posting.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I don`t usually watch the touring video`s, but i did watch the Italian one and thoroughly enjoyed it. Who said it only rains in Britain? 😂
I was just about to comment the new camera looks so much better and then you mentioned it was an iphone. That's really impressive. It gives a really nice stage with really nice depth to the picture.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes I did notice that, and you can see some noise in the garage shots probably because the lighting isn't good enough. You could have fixed those in post by adding a little more sharpening. Overall though, the picture looks less distorted than the Go Pro and the colour looks a lot more natural. You could easily improve the image quality by a significant margin and get rid of this softness simply by adding good lighting. This way you won't have to add sharpening later. You could of course invest in a DSLR. But, a DSLR would also benefit significantly from studio lighting, so I would encourage you to go for that first if you don't already have any. Did you record this in 4k 60fps?
...I have two DSLRs - they are a POTA to use for video though (Nikon) - I need to invest in one of those Sony mirrorless jobbies - but they are quite £££y
Cost aside, the colour does it for me, the yellow of the RS is just beautiful. I've always thought the rather drab colours of the previous Street Triples a bit bland. Speaking as a Street Triple 675 owner.... A still immaculate Red and Black R version....l would definitely go for the RS if my pension could cope with the extra expense..
Never noticed the fisheye with the camera, happy with the videos you put out , Beautiful bikes, Much better colours than most of the Japanese bikes , And I'm a Japanese bike fan , I'm with you two lights not one is my preference, Several differences, don't think it's worth £ 1700 ,
Hi Andy, have have seen the DJI phone stabiliser? They are awesome ahd they also have a tracking mode so on a mini tripod stand it works really well for videos 👍
Yes thanks for that I have seen them - but to be honest the built in stabilisation for the main lens is pretty darned good and saves me having to carry extra kit....
Just saw about 7:00 min. into the video about the seating position. Great review again. I just noticed there is no longer the little rotary cap for changing the headlight bulbs. Just curious how you replace the bulbs.
Interesting - crap in what way? All the other comments I've received so far have siad it's better (for me it looks a bit soft although I prefer the perspective)....
I'm sure the R is more than good enough for the road and you get a damn good bike for your money. But i had to go for the RS. The cosmic yellow is stunning. I'm really looking forward to pick it up from my dealer in July.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Absolutely! I thought about going for red too - also gorgeous. Would be awesome if more manufacturers offer colours that are a bit special and grab your attention.
I agree, the iPhone works well…keep using it! The rider seats look a bit different…fancy stitching on the RS? Do they feel any different to each other? Great looking motorcycles…🏍️👍🇿🇦
Morning mate, I was starting to get bloody withdraw symptoms as Saturdays with the Flyer, a fry-up from my fat horney misses, and some bikes is what I needed.
@@TheMissendenFlyer It's cuz your reviews are from an ordinary bloke and not a pro journos perspective. The fact you are still alive and no missing limbs means you R a good rider.
Track Weapon is ready! More RPM (like more happy zone 😊), more braking power (brembo stylema) and better suited to the track day (moto2) 💛💛💛 and Cosmic Yellow is awesome 😄
